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HUGE NEWS: Government Concedes Vaccine-Autism Link in Federal Court!



 
 
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Old February 26th 08, 07:23 PM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.health.alternative,misc.legal,misc.kids.health
Ilena Rose
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Default HUGE NEWS: Government Concedes Vaccine-Autism Link in Federal Court!

http://ilenarose.blogspot.com/2008/0...accine_26.html

Note from Ilena: This is a landmark case and one to make the enormous
Vaccination Public Relations Teams go wild.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm

I highly doubt it was the 'plaintiff's' identity that sealed this
case. In the breast implant debacle, one of the ways the
manufacturer's keep their cover up going, was with gag orders
silencing the women after paying even after paying pittances for their
damages.

The Vaccination and Breast Implant PR teams have used nearly identical
strategies (and PR people) for several years.

By David Kirby

After years of insisting there is no evidence to link vaccines with
the onset of autism spectrum disorder (ASD), the US government has
quietly conceded a vaccine-autism case in the Court of Federal Claims.

The unprecedented concession was filed on November 9, and sealed to
protect the plaintiff's identify. It was obtained through individuals
unrelated to the case.
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com/2008/0...accine_26.html
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Old February 26th 08, 07:30 PM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.health.alternative,misc.legal,misc.kids.health
Mark Probert
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Default HUGE NEWS: Government Concedes Vaccine-Autism Link in FederalCourt!

On Feb 26, 2:23*pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com/2008/0...ent-concedes-v...

Note from Ilena: *This is a landmark case and one to make the enormous
Vaccination Public Relations Teams go wild.


If you read the actual decision, as I have, you would see that the
child was diagnosed with "autism-like symptoms" and not with Autism.

That is a major difference.

Further, this was one of the original three test cases for the
hearings. The government noticed that autism was not the primary
diagnosis, and the case had to be dropped from the Omnibus. The
government then reviewed the case, found that there were very
substantial problems predisposing the child to possible vaccine
related injury, and paid the claim.

In reality, it has NOTHING to do with the Omnibus claim.

Of course, you should feel free to say what you want about this, and I
would hope that you will stick to the facts, as I have, and not
unleash a personal attack.

  #3  
Old February 26th 08, 08:03 PM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.health.alternative,misc.legal,misc.kids.health
Kevysmom[_2_]
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Default HUGE NEWS: Government Concedes Vaccine-Autism Link in FederalCourt!

In reality, it has NOTHING to do with the Omnibus claim.


Wrong AGAIN!!


The claim, one of 4,900 autism cases currently pending in Federal
"Vaccine Court," was conceded by US Assistant Attorney General Peter
Keisler and other Justice Department officials, on behalf of the
Department of Health and Human Services, the "defendant" in all
Vaccine Court cases.




On Feb 26, 2:30*pm, Mark Probert wrote:
On Feb 26, 2:23*pm, Ilena Rose wrote:

http://ilenarose.blogspot.com/2008/0...ent-concedes-v...


Note from Ilena: *This is a landmark case and one to make the enormous
Vaccination Public Relations Teams go wild.


If you read the actual decision, as I have, you would see that the
child was diagnosed with "autism-like symptoms" and not with Autism.

That is a major difference.

Further, this was one of the original three test cases for the
hearings. The government noticed that autism was not the primary
diagnosis, and the case had to be dropped from the Omnibus. The
government then reviewed the case, found that there were very
substantial problems predisposing the child to possible vaccine
related injury, and paid the claim.

In reality, it has NOTHING to do with the Omnibus claim.

Of course, you should feel free to say what you want about this, and I
would hope that you will stick to the facts, as I have, and not
unleash a personal attack.


  #4  
Old February 26th 08, 08:07 PM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.health.alternative,misc.legal,misc.kids.health
Mark Probert
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Default HUGE NEWS: Government Concedes Vaccine-Autism Link in FederalCourt!

On Feb 26, 3:03*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
In reality, it has NOTHING to do with the Omnibus claim.


Wrong AGAIN!!

The claim, one of 4,900 autism cases currently pending in Federal
"Vaccine Court," was conceded by US Assistant Attorney General Peter
Keisler and other Justice Department officials, on behalf of the
Department of Health and Human Services, the "defendant" in all
Vaccine Court cases.


Even assuming that this is correct, and my recollection says
otherwise, for this to be relevant to the other claims would require
that each of the other children have nearly the same clinical picture
of this child. This child has a rare mitochondrial disorder and this
makes it unlikely that it would apply to any more than a handful, if
that many, of the other claims.

Donna, I have read the decision.
  #5  
Old February 26th 08, 08:13 PM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.health.alternative,misc.legal,misc.kids.health
Kevysmom[_2_]
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Default HUGE NEWS: Government Concedes Vaccine-Autism Link in FederalCourt!

You realize there are 50 attorneys across America working on behalf of
American children
who were injected with mercury via vaccines in which 3 of these cases
are being used as a "test" to see if they should go forward with the
rest of the lawsuits.


BTW, The attorneys felt this should NOT be a class action lawsuit as
some children are
clearly more disabled than others..So...They are taking one case at a
time.

On Feb 26, 3:07*pm, Mark Probert wrote:
On Feb 26, 3:03*pm, Kevysmom wrote:

In reality, it has NOTHING to do with the Omnibus claim.


Wrong AGAIN!!


The claim, one of 4,900 autism cases currently pending in Federal
"Vaccine Court," was conceded by US Assistant Attorney General Peter
Keisler and other Justice Department officials, on behalf of the
Department of Health and Human Services, the "defendant" in all
Vaccine Court cases.


Even assuming that this is correct, and my recollection says
otherwise, for this to be relevant to the other claims would require
that each of the other children have nearly the same clinical picture
of this child. This child has a rare mitochondrial disorder and this
makes it unlikely that it would apply to any more than a handful, if
that many, of the other claims.

Donna, I have read the decision.


  #6  
Old February 26th 08, 09:43 PM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.health.alternative,misc.legal,misc.kids.health
Jeff
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Default HUGE NEWS: Government Concedes Vaccine-Autism Link in FederalCourt!

Mark Probert wrote:
On Feb 26, 2:23 pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com/2008/0...ent-concedes-v...

Note from Ilena: This is a landmark case and one to make the enormous
Vaccination Public Relations Teams go wild.


If you read the actual decision, as I have, you would see that the
child was diagnosed with "autism-like symptoms" and not with Autism.

That is a major difference.

Further, this was one of the original three test cases for the
hearings. The government noticed that autism was not the primary
diagnosis, and the case had to be dropped from the Omnibus. The
government then reviewed the case, found that there were very
substantial problems predisposing the child to possible vaccine
related injury, and paid the claim.

In reality, it has NOTHING to do with the Omnibus claim.

Of course, you should feel free to say what you want about this, and I
would hope that you will stick to the facts, as I have, and not
unleash a personal attack.



You're correct, of course.

And the determination that the child was harmed by the vaccines is a
legal determination, not a medical one.

Jeff
  #7  
Old February 26th 08, 09:52 PM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.health.alternative,misc.legal,misc.kids.health
Kevysmom[_2_]
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Default HUGE NEWS: Government Concedes Vaccine-Autism Link in FederalCourt!

And the determination that the child was harmed by the vaccines is a
legal determination, not a medical one.


How lame they really are!


On Feb 26, 4:43*pm, Jeff wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
On Feb 26, 2:23 pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com/2008/0...ent-concedes-v...


Note from Ilena: *This is a landmark case and one to make the enormous
Vaccination Public Relations Teams go wild.


If you read the actual decision, as I have, you would see that the
child was diagnosed with "autism-like symptoms" and not with Autism.


That is a major difference.


Further, this was one of the original three test cases for the
hearings. The government noticed that autism was not the primary
diagnosis, and the case had to be dropped from the Omnibus. The
government then reviewed the case, found that there were very
substantial problems predisposing the child to possible vaccine
related injury, and paid the claim.


In reality, it has NOTHING to do with the Omnibus claim.


Of course, you should feel free to say what you want about this, and I
would hope that you will stick to the facts, as I have, and not
unleash a personal attack.


You're correct, of course.

And the determination that the child was harmed by the vaccines is a
legal determination, not a medical one.

Jeff- Hide quoted text -

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Old February 26th 08, 11:47 PM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.health.alternative,misc.legal,misc.kids.health
Myrl
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Default HUGE NEWS: Government Concedes Vaccine-Autism Link in FederalCourt!

On Feb 26, 12:13*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
You realize there are 50 attorneys across America working on behalf of
American children
who were injected with mercury via vaccines in which 3 of these cases
are being used as a "test" to see if they should go forward with the
rest of the lawsuits.




It should be remembered that mercury has been removed from childhood
vaccines since 2001. Yet the incidence of autism continues to
increase at an alarming rate.

This fact doesn't seem to quell the hystrionic performances of the
anti-vac folks in their crusade to quell protection from disease for
children world-wide!

Myrl
http://www.webstarmagic.com/wisletter.htm



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Old February 26th 08, 11:58 PM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.health.alternative,misc.legal,misc.kids.health
Kevysmom[_2_]
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Default HUGE NEWS: Government Concedes Vaccine-Autism Link in FederalCourt!

2003, NOT 2001.

And the babies are still getting mercury injected via the flu
vaccines, ALSO
Pregnant women are being injected with mercury via the flu vaccine,
and if
you know anything at all about mercury poisoning you would know that
a fetus is the MOST susceptible to the harmful effects of mercury.


On Feb 26, 6:47*pm, Myrl wrote:
On Feb 26, 12:13*pm, Kevysmom wrote:

You realize there are 50 attorneys across America working on behalf of
American children
who were injected with mercury via vaccines in which 3 of these cases
are being used as a "test" to see if they should go forward with the
rest of the lawsuits.


It should be remembered that mercury has been removed from childhood
vaccines since 2001. *Yet the incidence of autism continues to
increase at an alarming rate.

This fact doesn't seem to quell the hystrionic performances of the
anti-vac folks in their crusade to quell protection from disease for
children world-wide!

Myrlhttp://www.webstarmagic.com/wisletter.htm


  #10  
Old February 27th 08, 01:01 AM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.health.alternative,misc.legal,misc.kids.health
Myrl
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Default HUGE NEWS: Government Concedes Vaccine-Autism Link in FederalCourt!

On Feb 26, 3:58*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
2003, NOT 2001.

And the babies are still getting mercury injected via the flu
vaccines, ALSO
Pregnant women are being injected with mercury via the flu vaccine,
and if
you know anything at all about mercury poisoning you would know that
a fetus is the MOST susceptible to the harmful effects of mercury.

On Feb 26, 6:47*pm, Myrl wrote:



On Feb 26, 12:13*pm, Kevysmom wrote:


You realize there are 50 attorneys across America working on behalf of
American children
who were injected with mercury via vaccines in which 3 of these cases
are being used as a "test" to see if they should go forward with the
rest of the lawsuits.


It should be remembered that mercury has been removed from childhood
vaccines since 2001. *Yet the incidence of autism continues to
increase at an alarming rate.


This fact doesn't seem to quell the hystrionic performances of the
anti-vac folks in their crusade to quell protection from disease for
children world-wide!


Myrlhttp://www.webstarmagic.com/wisletter.htm- Hide quoted text -


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According to the CDC and most recognized sources, the year mercury was
removed from childhood vaccines was 2001. See following excerpt from
their website. In spite of the removal of mercury from childhood
vaccines, incidence of autism has continued to increase each year. . .

"Thimerosal is a mercury-containing preservative used in some vaccines
and other products since the 1930s. There is no convincing scientific
evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines,
except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection
site. However, in July 1999, the Public Health Service agencies, the
American Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers agreed that
thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in vaccines as a
precautionary measure.

Since 2001, with the exception of some influenza (flu) vaccines,
thimerosal is not used as a preservative in routinely recommended
childhood vaccines."

http://www.cdc.gov/od/science/iso/co...thimerosal.htm

 




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