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No, nothing other than "direct child related" expenses will be considered
for you and the mother. No rent/mortgage, no utilities, nothing other than the things I named. That is all that is included in the guidelines. The DCSE cannot deviate from the guidelines at all. If you still don't agree with the order after the appeal, you can appeal it to court. Only a judge can deviate from guidelines and take things into condideration that DCSE can't I said all that without calling your ex a bitch! |
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No, nothing other than "direct child related" expenses will be considered
for you and the mother. No rent/mortgage, no utilities, nothing other than the things I named. That is all that is included in the guidelines. The DCSE cannot deviate from the guidelines at all. If you still don't agree with the order after the appeal, you can appeal it to court. Only a judge can deviate from guidelines and take things into condideration that DCSE can't I said all that without calling your ex a bitch! |
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No, nothing other than "direct child related" expenses will be considered
for you and the mother. No rent/mortgage, no utilities, nothing other than the things I named. That is all that is included in the guidelines. The DCSE cannot deviate from the guidelines at all. If you still don't agree with the order after the appeal, you can appeal it to court. Only a judge can deviate from guidelines and take things into condideration that DCSE can't I said all that without calling your ex a bitch! |
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In article outparenting.com,
Joe_College says... No, nothing other than "direct child related" expenses will be considered for you and the mother. No rent/mortgage, no utilities, nothing other than the things I named. That is all that is included in the guidelines. The DCSE cannot deviate from the guidelines at all. ===== I must confess I haven't followed many threads lately due to all the convoluted crap being posted, however it bears noting that rules for adjusting expenses for the purpose of CS awards varies by state. Some states simply allot a fixed amount for the NCP's living expenses, some deduct items that others do not--some deduct for the needs of other children of the NCP while some don't and some states give judges more discretion in deviating from the guideline amount. When it comes to calculating support there is no on-size-fits-all. This is why all NCPs must become familiar with their own state's statutes and rules of procedure--Most now online. The most important thing NCPs need to take to their hearing is knowledge of their state's laws. ===== ===== (PLEASE NOTE: I never bottom-sign my posts. Check Headers to Verify the Authenticity of This Post) |
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In article outparenting.com,
Joe_College says... No, nothing other than "direct child related" expenses will be considered for you and the mother. No rent/mortgage, no utilities, nothing other than the things I named. That is all that is included in the guidelines. The DCSE cannot deviate from the guidelines at all. ===== I must confess I haven't followed many threads lately due to all the convoluted crap being posted, however it bears noting that rules for adjusting expenses for the purpose of CS awards varies by state. Some states simply allot a fixed amount for the NCP's living expenses, some deduct items that others do not--some deduct for the needs of other children of the NCP while some don't and some states give judges more discretion in deviating from the guideline amount. When it comes to calculating support there is no on-size-fits-all. This is why all NCPs must become familiar with their own state's statutes and rules of procedure--Most now online. The most important thing NCPs need to take to their hearing is knowledge of their state's laws. ===== ===== (PLEASE NOTE: I never bottom-sign my posts. Check Headers to Verify the Authenticity of This Post) |
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In article outparenting.com,
Joe_College says... No, nothing other than "direct child related" expenses will be considered for you and the mother. No rent/mortgage, no utilities, nothing other than the things I named. That is all that is included in the guidelines. The DCSE cannot deviate from the guidelines at all. ===== I must confess I haven't followed many threads lately due to all the convoluted crap being posted, however it bears noting that rules for adjusting expenses for the purpose of CS awards varies by state. Some states simply allot a fixed amount for the NCP's living expenses, some deduct items that others do not--some deduct for the needs of other children of the NCP while some don't and some states give judges more discretion in deviating from the guideline amount. When it comes to calculating support there is no on-size-fits-all. This is why all NCPs must become familiar with their own state's statutes and rules of procedure--Most now online. The most important thing NCPs need to take to their hearing is knowledge of their state's laws. ===== ===== (PLEASE NOTE: I never bottom-sign my posts. Check Headers to Verify the Authenticity of This Post) |
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"Gini" wrote in message ... In article outparenting.com, Joe_College says... No, nothing other than "direct child related" expenses will be considered for you and the mother. No rent/mortgage, no utilities, nothing other than the things I named. That is all that is included in the guidelines. The DCSE cannot deviate from the guidelines at all. ===== I must confess I haven't followed many threads lately due to all the convoluted crap being posted, however it bears noting that rules for adjusting expenses for the purpose of CS awards varies by state. Some states simply allot a fixed amount for the NCP's living expenses, some deduct items that others do not--some deduct for the needs of other children of the NCP while some don't and some states give judges more discretion in deviating from the guideline amount. When it comes to calculating support there is no on-size-fits-all. This is why all NCPs must become familiar with their own state's statutes and rules of procedure--Most now online. The most important thing NCPs need to take to their hearing is knowledge of their state's laws. ===== ===== There is another important, but hard to find, component to take to a hearing - Knowledge and documentation of the assumptions behind the state's CS guidelines. Without having that knowledge it is impossible to mount a rebuttal ot the guideline amount. The reason I say it is hard to find is because the state CSE's try to hide this information from the general population so it can't be used to challenge the guidelines. Until last year's guideline review in my state I had no idea how they came up with the numbers or the assumptions behind the numbers. Here's an example of how the assumptions can be used. The guidelines are based on the CP having the child exemption(s) and taking the standard deduction. If the CP has itemized deductions that exceed the standard deduction, they need to contribute more than the percentage based on gross incomes because they have more after tax income than the guidelines assume. |
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"Gini" wrote in message ... In article outparenting.com, Joe_College says... No, nothing other than "direct child related" expenses will be considered for you and the mother. No rent/mortgage, no utilities, nothing other than the things I named. That is all that is included in the guidelines. The DCSE cannot deviate from the guidelines at all. ===== I must confess I haven't followed many threads lately due to all the convoluted crap being posted, however it bears noting that rules for adjusting expenses for the purpose of CS awards varies by state. Some states simply allot a fixed amount for the NCP's living expenses, some deduct items that others do not--some deduct for the needs of other children of the NCP while some don't and some states give judges more discretion in deviating from the guideline amount. When it comes to calculating support there is no on-size-fits-all. This is why all NCPs must become familiar with their own state's statutes and rules of procedure--Most now online. The most important thing NCPs need to take to their hearing is knowledge of their state's laws. ===== ===== There is another important, but hard to find, component to take to a hearing - Knowledge and documentation of the assumptions behind the state's CS guidelines. Without having that knowledge it is impossible to mount a rebuttal ot the guideline amount. The reason I say it is hard to find is because the state CSE's try to hide this information from the general population so it can't be used to challenge the guidelines. Until last year's guideline review in my state I had no idea how they came up with the numbers or the assumptions behind the numbers. Here's an example of how the assumptions can be used. The guidelines are based on the CP having the child exemption(s) and taking the standard deduction. If the CP has itemized deductions that exceed the standard deduction, they need to contribute more than the percentage based on gross incomes because they have more after tax income than the guidelines assume. |
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"Gini" wrote in message ... In article outparenting.com, Joe_College says... No, nothing other than "direct child related" expenses will be considered for you and the mother. No rent/mortgage, no utilities, nothing other than the things I named. That is all that is included in the guidelines. The DCSE cannot deviate from the guidelines at all. ===== I must confess I haven't followed many threads lately due to all the convoluted crap being posted, however it bears noting that rules for adjusting expenses for the purpose of CS awards varies by state. Some states simply allot a fixed amount for the NCP's living expenses, some deduct items that others do not--some deduct for the needs of other children of the NCP while some don't and some states give judges more discretion in deviating from the guideline amount. When it comes to calculating support there is no on-size-fits-all. This is why all NCPs must become familiar with their own state's statutes and rules of procedure--Most now online. The most important thing NCPs need to take to their hearing is knowledge of their state's laws. ===== ===== There is another important, but hard to find, component to take to a hearing - Knowledge and documentation of the assumptions behind the state's CS guidelines. Without having that knowledge it is impossible to mount a rebuttal ot the guideline amount. The reason I say it is hard to find is because the state CSE's try to hide this information from the general population so it can't be used to challenge the guidelines. Until last year's guideline review in my state I had no idea how they came up with the numbers or the assumptions behind the numbers. Here's an example of how the assumptions can be used. The guidelines are based on the CP having the child exemption(s) and taking the standard deduction. If the CP has itemized deductions that exceed the standard deduction, they need to contribute more than the percentage based on gross incomes because they have more after tax income than the guidelines assume. |
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