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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
"Robert" wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:15:28 GMT, "CafeWriter" wrote: "Robert" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 06:28:07 GMT, "CafeWriter" wrote: "Robert" wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 00:38:42 GMT, "CafeWriter" wrote: "Robert" wrote in message om... On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 03:18:12 GMT, "CafeWriter" wrote: "Shawn Hirn" wrote in message ... In article , "Chris" wrote: If one parent wants it but the other does not, does a child have the right to be born? A fetus has the rights its mother says it should have; nothing more, nor nothing less. What if its mother doesn't want this fetus and wants to go for an abortion? Her choice non of our business. So mind your own business. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Good! You finally got the point! It's the woman's choice, not a man's choice, to what to do with HER body. Hey dumb ass I was pro-choice before Roe V. Wade. My mother was Pro-abortion. If a woman was pregnant and unable to care for a child she was for forcing her to abort. My mother was the preacher daughter, her mother supported the same concept. They both considered bringing a child into the world and not being able to provide for that child a sin. My mother and both Grand mothers were among the first supporters of what became Family Planning. My paternal grand mother was jailed for giving Condoms to underage girls. Charges were dropped, she was proud of going to jail, for her beliefs. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Um, I think you mistook the words for what it was not supposed to be. Your words were "Good! You finally got the point! Finally??? I am just trying to say that we need to respect the women's choice on whatever or not she want children. I'm a pro-choicer myself. I've been a pro-choicer since I was 14 and now, I'm 30. My daughter is 39. And we expect a great grand child this summer, from my 20 year old grand daughter. Your point exactly? Funny how fast time can go before you realize that you''re 10 plus years older. Seems only yesterday when I was a horny 18 years old, and Ike was president.That was half a century ago. Abortion were illegal, and the women in my family were writing letter, and contributing money to get the law changed. I was a happy daddy before abortion were legal. Had they been legal, I would still be a Daddy. Well one good thing is; I'm not going to be a mother, my mother is not going to be a grandmother, my father is not going to be a grandfather and my grandmother is not going to be a great grand mother and all because I made the decision not to have children. If you have problems with women deciding not to be mothers, too damn bad. No problem at all, in fact I believe pressure to have a unwanted child is the worst kind of harassment. ................ except, of course, if you are a man. Only those that want to be parent, should be. Translation: Only WOMEN that want to be a parent, should be. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:39:57 -0700, "Chris" wrote:
If you have problems with women deciding not to be mothers, too damn bad. No problem at all, in fact I believe pressure to have a unwanted child is the worst kind of harassment. ............... except, of course, if you are a man. Nope, many men that don't want to be fathers, are often pressured to settle down and have a family. Only those that want to be parent, should be. Translation: Only WOMEN that want to be a parent, should be. Nope many men want to be daddy, many women want to be mommy. Some people can not understand why others are different, these small brained idiots are usually religious bigots, that will spread lies about those that don't agree with them. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
"Robert" wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:39:57 -0700, "Chris" wrote: If you have problems with women deciding not to be mothers, too damn bad. No problem at all, in fact I believe pressure to have a unwanted child is the worst kind of harassment. ............... except, of course, if you are a man. Nope, many men that don't want to be fathers, are often pressured to settle down and have a family. You don't need to convince me. I was making reference to HER belief. Only those that want to be parent, should be. Translation: Only WOMEN that want to be a parent, should be. Nope many men want to be daddy, And many men do NOT want to be daddy. Thus, the poster is really saying only WOMEN that want to be a parent, should be. many women want to be mommy. Some people can not understand why others are different, these small brained idiots are usually religious bigots, that will spread lies about those that don't agree with them. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
"Robert" wrote in Nope many men want to be daddy, many women want to be mommy. Some people can not understand why others are different, these small brained idiots are usually religious bigots, that will spread lies about those that don't agree with them. Abortion is a process of murdering a child, yet you will spread lies by calling me a religious bigot and I have never stepped inside a church in years. Are you so uncaring and cold hearted that you excuse these people for snuffing out a life because it's inconvenient? |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
"Robert" wrote in Abortion is not murder, that's one of many of your lies. Abortion avoids a unwanted baby, saved from being abused. LOL, so how do you "avoid" a baby that is already conceived and is a living being? At some point, you do have to end it's life right? |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On May 4, 4:15 pm, "DB" wrote:
"Robert" wrote in Abortion is not murder, that's one of many of your lies. Abortion avoids a unwanted baby, saved from being abused. LOL, so how do you "avoid" a baby that is already conceived and is a living being? At some point, you do have to end it's life right? Yes, abortion is legal...and on that topic, unwanted pregnancies by women could be avoided 100% if they didn't have sex until they were ready to FULLY SUPPORT a child both emotionally and financially... Yes, abortion is how "women get out of responsibility"...it's just that men don't have the option of "getting out of responsibility"...only women do...If women want to avoid responsibility, they have an abortion, if women want to avoid responsibility, they give up the child either through adoption or leaving them at the footsteps of a hospital, if women want to avoid responsibility, they have the child and not work and expect the father to fully support it, if women want to avoid responsibility they basically do as they please...MEN on the other hand, have NO OPTION to avoid responsibility... except of course, what women say is "keep it in your pants"...so, yes, MEN do have the option... just like women have the option of "keeping their legs crossed"...but nope, they can't ever have that responsibility...somehow, that concept is too outrageous for many women... Yes, I am a woman... |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On Fri, 4 May 2007 13:15:09 -0700, "DB" wrote:
"Robert" wrote in Abortion is not murder, that's one of many of your lies. Abortion avoids a unwanted baby, saved from being abused. LOL, so how do you "avoid" a baby that is already conceived and is a living being? You lie to support the lie. Conception is merely a point in the human reproduction cycle. There is not baby at conception, nor for many months later if at all. A baby is an infant or a young child; an infant is A child in the first period of life, beginning at his birth. Until there is a birth, there is no child, no living being. Which is why abortion is not and never has been considered to be murder (except by Pro-Lifers, and then only for the purpose of opposing abortion.) |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On Fri, 4 May 2007 11:12:41 -0700, "DB" wrote:
"Robert" wrote in Nope many men want to be daddy, many women want to be mommy. Some people can not understand why others are different, these small brained idiots are usually religious bigots, that will spread lies about those that don't agree with them. Abortion is a process of murdering a child, yet you will spread lies by calling me a religious bigot and I have never stepped inside a church in years. Are you so uncaring and cold hearted that you excuse these people for snuffing out a life because it's inconvenient? Abortion is not murder, that's one of many of your lies. Abortion avoids a unwanted baby, saved from being abused. The one of the thing worse than abortion is forcing a woman to have a baby she doesn't want. We already have millions of unwanted children, many of whom are now adult. The only objection to abortion is based on religion. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
"Paul Anderson" wrote in period of life, beginning at his birth. Until there is a birth, there is no child, no living being. Oh, so I guess ripping the legs and arms off a living & growing being is OK with your conscience? That's fine, nobody said you were moral! Regardless of what you want to call a fetus, you still have to kill it to end it's life, right? |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On Fri, 4 May 2007 13:53:01 -0700, "DB" wrote:
"Paul Anderson" wrote in period of life, beginning at his birth. Until there is a birth, there is no child, no living being. Oh, so I guess ripping the legs and arms off a living & growing being is OK with your conscience? Again, there is no being. Without your lies you have nothing. With the lies you have less than nothing. That's fine, nobody said you were moral! I'm not the one who is lieing. If you had a moral position you would not be telling lies. Regardless of what you want to call a fetus, you still have to kill it to end it's life, right? Unborn: Not born; no yet brought into life; Without birth, there is no separate life. Ask yourself why you are forced to constantly lie to promote the "Pro-Life" agenda. |
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