Mother/father in different states

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Man lives in Indiana and makes a gross income of $115,000 a year.
Woman lives in Illinois and makes a gross income of $35,000 a year.
She
has
a 21, 17, and 9 year old boys from previous marriage.

Both are divorced.

It is then discovered that woman is unexpectedly pregnant (oops).

The man has no interest in having any involvement in the child (and if
the
woman were to have an abortion or give the baby up for adoptuion, he
would
definitely not object). But the woman at age 45 wants to keep the
baby.

What kind of child support (rough ballpark figure) would the man
expect to
have to pay? Which state has precedence?

I've been trying to find this on the internet, but no luck so far.

Thanks in advance.

The state where the child resides will have jurisdiction. Unless the
"man"
is proven in a court of law to be the father of the child, no child
support
can be ordered. A mother cannot just name a man as the child's father
and
get child support from him. The mother will have to hire an attorney
and
formally establish paternity through DNA testing and a legal filiation
hearing before any court will order CS. Part of this process will be
for
the mother to admit to her 21 and 17 year old boys that she was having
sex
with a man to whom she was not married. That's not a very good example
for
a mother to set for her boys.

LOL!! A single adult woman can't engage in a consensual sexual
relationship
outside of marriage without it being "not a very good example"?

You hold single adult men to that same standard?

Of course. And you know I meant she will have to admit to having
*unprotected* sex.

If the message to young men is to protect yourself, don't get girls pregnant
because it will change your life, be aware of long term CS obligations, etc.
the parents ought to be practicing the same rules by example.

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
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"ABC" wrote in message
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Man lives in Indiana and makes a gross income of $115,000 a year.
Woman lives in Illinois and makes a gross income of $35,000 a year.
She
has
a 21, 17, and 9 year old boys from previous marriage.

Both are divorced.

It is then discovered that woman is unexpectedly pregnant (oops).

The man has no interest in having any involvement in the child (and if
the
woman were to have an abortion or give the baby up for adoptuion, he
would
definitely not object). But the woman at age 45 wants to keep the
baby.

What kind of child support (rough ballpark figure) would the man
expect to
have to pay? Which state has precedence?

I've been trying to find this on the internet, but no luck so far.

Thanks in advance.

The state where the child resides will have jurisdiction. Unless the
"man"
is proven in a court of law to be the father of the child, no child
support
can be ordered. A mother cannot just name a man as the child's father
and
get child support from him. The mother will have to hire an attorney
and
formally establish paternity through DNA testing and a legal filiation
hearing before any court will order CS. Part of this process will be
for
the mother to admit to her 21 and 17 year old boys that she was having
sex
with a man to whom she was not married. That's not a very good example
for
a mother to set for her boys.

LOL!! A single adult woman can't engage in a consensual sexual
relationship
outside of marriage without it being "not a very good example"?

You hold single adult men to that same standard?

Of course. And you know I meant she will have to admit to having
*unprotected* sex.

If the message to young men is to protect yourself, don't get girls pregnant
because it will change your life, be aware of long term CS obligations, etc.
the parents ought to be practicing the same rules by example.

Moon Shyne wrote in message
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
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"ABC" wrote in message
m...
Man lives in Indiana and makes a gross income of $115,000 a year.
Woman lives in Illinois and makes a gross income of $35,000 a year.
She
has
a 21, 17, and 9 year old boys from previous marriage.

Both are divorced.

It is then discovered that woman is unexpectedly pregnant (oops).

The man has no interest in having any involvement in the child (and if
the
woman were to have an abortion or give the baby up for adoptuion, he
would
definitely not object). But the woman at age 45 wants to keep the
baby.

What kind of child support (rough ballpark figure) would the man
expect to
have to pay? Which state has precedence?

I've been trying to find this on the internet, but no luck so far.

Thanks in advance.

The state where the child resides will have jurisdiction. Unless the
"man"
is proven in a court of law to be the father of the child, no child
support
can be ordered. A mother cannot just name a man as the child's father
and
get child support from him. The mother will have to hire an attorney
and
formally establish paternity through DNA testing and a legal filiation
hearing before any court will order CS. Part of this process will be
for
the mother to admit to her 21 and 17 year old boys that she was having
sex
with a man to whom she was not married. That's not a very good example
for
a mother to set for her boys.

LOL!! A single adult woman can't engage in a consensual sexual
relationship
outside of marriage without it being "not a very good example"?

You hold single adult men to that same standard?

Love to, but that would mean lowering the standard.

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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
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"ABC" wrote in message
m...
Man lives in Indiana and makes a gross income of $115,000 a year.
Woman lives in Illinois and makes a gross income of $35,000 a year.
She
has
a 21, 17, and 9 year old boys from previous marriage.

Both are divorced.

It is then discovered that woman is unexpectedly pregnant (oops).

The man has no interest in having any involvement in the child (and if
the
woman were to have an abortion or give the baby up for adoptuion, he
would
definitely not object). But the woman at age 45 wants to keep the
baby.

What kind of child support (rough ballpark figure) would the man
expect to
have to pay? Which state has precedence?

I've been trying to find this on the internet, but no luck so far.

Thanks in advance.

The state where the child resides will have jurisdiction. Unless the
"man"
is proven in a court of law to be the father of the child, no child
support
can be ordered. A mother cannot just name a man as the child's father
and
get child support from him. The mother will have to hire an attorney
and
formally establish paternity through DNA testing and a legal filiation
hearing before any court will order CS. Part of this process will be
for
the mother to admit to her 21 and 17 year old boys that she was having
sex
with a man to whom she was not married. That's not a very good example
for
a mother to set for her boys.

LOL!! A single adult woman can't engage in a consensual sexual
relationship
outside of marriage without it being "not a very good example"?

You hold single adult men to that same standard?

Love to, but that would mean lowering the standard.

Moon Shyne wrote in message
...

"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
ink.net...

"ABC" wrote in message
m...
Man lives in Indiana and makes a gross income of $115,000 a year.
Woman lives in Illinois and makes a gross income of $35,000 a year.
She
has
a 21, 17, and 9 year old boys from previous marriage.

Both are divorced.

It is then discovered that woman is unexpectedly pregnant (oops).

The man has no interest in having any involvement in the child (and if
the
woman were to have an abortion or give the baby up for adoptuion, he
would
definitely not object). But the woman at age 45 wants to keep the
baby.

What kind of child support (rough ballpark figure) would the man
expect to
have to pay? Which state has precedence?

I've been trying to find this on the internet, but no luck so far.

Thanks in advance.

The state where the child resides will have jurisdiction. Unless the
"man"
is proven in a court of law to be the father of the child, no child
support
can be ordered. A mother cannot just name a man as the child's father
and
get child support from him. The mother will have to hire an attorney
and
formally establish paternity through DNA testing and a legal filiation
hearing before any court will order CS. Part of this process will be
for
the mother to admit to her 21 and 17 year old boys that she was having
sex
with a man to whom she was not married. That's not a very good example
for
a mother to set for her boys.

LOL!! A single adult woman can't engage in a consensual sexual
relationship
outside of marriage without it being "not a very good example"?

You hold single adult men to that same standard?

Love to, but that would mean lowering the standard.

Bob Whiteside wrote:
"ABC" wrote in message
m...

Man lives in Indiana and makes a gross income of $115,000 a year.
Woman lives in Illinois and makes a gross income of $35,000 a year. She

has

a 21, 17, and 9 year old boys from previous marriage.

Both are divorced.

It is then discovered that woman is unexpectedly pregnant (oops).

The man has no interest in having any involvement in the child (and if the
woman were to have an abortion or give the baby up for adoption, he would
definitely not object). But the woman at age 45 wants to keep the baby.

What kind of child support (rough ballpark figure) would the man expect to
have to pay? Which state has precedence?

I've been trying to find this on the internet, but no luck so far.

Thanks in advance.


The state where the child resides will have jurisdiction. Unless the "man"
is proved in a court of law to be the father of the child, no child support
can be ordered. A mother cannot just name a man as the child's father and
get child support from him.

There's a 70 year old guy here in L.A. among many others who would
disagree with you on that. Either through faulty service or actual fraud
these guys were not informed of an ongoing paternity suit. When they did
find out, which amazingly, the child support division had no problem
doing, they soon learned they had no recourse whatsoever. Even when
D.N.A. evidence was presented showing they were not the father they had
no option but to pay.

A bill was recently introduced here in California addressing just this
and was shot down by former (I love that word) Governor Grey Davis who
said that, it would just cost the state too much money if this bill was
allowed to pass. Unfortunately, fraud is O.K., alive and well here in
our Courts and Government as long as those in charge benefit. (See Enron
among others. This has not come out yet, but I'm sure Arnold will be
saying a-lot in the future) and hopefully he will be listening when
fathers ask for his ear.)

The mother will have to hire an attorney and
formally establish paternity through DNA testing and a legal affiliation
hearing before any court will order CS. Part of this process will be for
the mother to admit to her 21 and 17 year old boys that she was having sex
with a man to whom she was not married. That's not a very good example for
a mother to set for her boys.

This is the New Feminism. Do what you want with no strings attached and
if they don't like it, make them pay. The richer the better.

Bob Whiteside wrote:
"ABC" wrote in message
m...

Man lives in Indiana and makes a gross income of $115,000 a year.
Woman lives in Illinois and makes a gross income of $35,000 a year. She

has

a 21, 17, and 9 year old boys from previous marriage.

Both are divorced.

It is then discovered that woman is unexpectedly pregnant (oops).

The man has no interest in having any involvement in the child (and if the
woman were to have an abortion or give the baby up for adoption, he would
definitely not object). But the woman at age 45 wants to keep the baby.

What kind of child support (rough ballpark figure) would the man expect to
have to pay? Which state has precedence?

I've been trying to find this on the internet, but no luck so far.

Thanks in advance.


The state where the child resides will have jurisdiction. Unless the "man"
is proved in a court of law to be the father of the child, no child support
can be ordered. A mother cannot just name a man as the child's father and
get child support from him.

There's a 70 year old guy here in L.A. among many others who would
disagree with you on that. Either through faulty service or actual fraud
these guys were not informed of an ongoing paternity suit. When they did
find out, which amazingly, the child support division had no problem
doing, they soon learned they had no recourse whatsoever. Even when
D.N.A. evidence was presented showing they were not the father they had
no option but to pay.

A bill was recently introduced here in California addressing just this
and was shot down by former (I love that word) Governor Grey Davis who
said that, it would just cost the state too much money if this bill was
allowed to pass. Unfortunately, fraud is O.K., alive and well here in
our Courts and Government as long as those in charge benefit. (See Enron
among others. This has not come out yet, but I'm sure Arnold will be
saying a-lot in the future) and hopefully he will be listening when
fathers ask for his ear.)

The mother will have to hire an attorney and
formally establish paternity through DNA testing and a legal affiliation
hearing before any court will order CS. Part of this process will be for
the mother to admit to her 21 and 17 year old boys that she was having sex
with a man to whom she was not married. That's not a very good example for
a mother to set for her boys.

This is the New Feminism. Do what you want with no strings attached and
if they don't like it, make them pay. The richer the better.

Bob Whiteside wrote:
"ABC" wrote in message
m...

Man lives in Indiana and makes a gross income of $115,000 a year.
Woman lives in Illinois and makes a gross income of $35,000 a year. She

has

a 21, 17, and 9 year old boys from previous marriage.

Both are divorced.

It is then discovered that woman is unexpectedly pregnant (oops).

The man has no interest in having any involvement in the child (and if the
woman were to have an abortion or give the baby up for adoption, he would
definitely not object). But the woman at age 45 wants to keep the baby.

What kind of child support (rough ballpark figure) would the man expect to
have to pay? Which state has precedence?

I've been trying to find this on the internet, but no luck so far.

Thanks in advance.


The state where the child resides will have jurisdiction. Unless the "man"
is proved in a court of law to be the father of the child, no child support
can be ordered. A mother cannot just name a man as the child's father and
get child support from him.

There's a 70 year old guy here in L.A. among many others who would
disagree with you on that. Either through faulty service or actual fraud
these guys were not informed of an ongoing paternity suit. When they did
find out, which amazingly, the child support division had no problem
doing, they soon learned they had no recourse whatsoever. Even when
D.N.A. evidence was presented showing they were not the father they had
no option but to pay.

A bill was recently introduced here in California addressing just this
and was shot down by former (I love that word) Governor Grey Davis who
said that, it would just cost the state too much money if this bill was
allowed to pass. Unfortunately, fraud is O.K., alive and well here in
our Courts and Government as long as those in charge benefit. (See Enron
among others. This has not come out yet, but I'm sure Arnold will be
saying a-lot in the future) and hopefully he will be listening when
fathers ask for his ear.)

The mother will have to hire an attorney and
formally establish paternity through DNA testing and a legal affiliation
hearing before any court will order CS. Part of this process will be for
the mother to admit to her 21 and 17 year old boys that she was having sex
with a man to whom she was not married. That's not a very good example for
a mother to set for her boys.

This is the New Feminism. Do what you want with no strings attached and
if they don't like it, make them pay. The richer the better.

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Man lives in Indiana and makes a gross income of $115,000 a year.
Woman lives in Illinois and makes a gross income of $35,000 a year.
She
has
a 21, 17, and 9 year old boys from previous marriage.

Both are divorced.

It is then discovered that woman is unexpectedly pregnant (oops).

The man has no interest in having any involvement in the child (and
if
the
woman were to have an abortion or give the baby up for adoptuion, he
would
definitely not object). But the woman at age 45 wants to keep the
baby.

What kind of child support (rough ballpark figure) would the man
expect
to
have to pay? Which state has precedence?

I've been trying to find this on the internet, but no luck so far.

Thanks in advance.

The state where the child resides will have jurisdiction. Unless the
"man"
is proven in a court of law to be the father of the child, no child
support
can be ordered. A mother cannot just name a man as the child's father
and
get child support from him. The mother will have to hire an attorney
and
formally establish paternity through DNA testing

And if he refuses such test?

He can be court ordered to take part in the testing, and continued refusal
can
result in a finding of established legal paternity. It's sort of like
refusing
to take a sobriety test - refusal is generally considered as a statement
of
'nolo contendere'.

Well aint' that special. GUILTY, until proven innocent! The AmeriKan way.

Can you cite the specific law that establishes paternity because one refuses
such test, or is it simply "case" law where the judge makes up her OWN law
as she moves from case to case?

.


and a legal filiation
hearing before any court will order CS. Part of this process will be
for
the mother to admit to her 21 and 17 year old boys that she was having
sex
with a man to whom she was not married. That's not a very good
example
for
a mother to set for her boys.

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
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"Chris" wrote in message
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
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"ABC" wrote in message
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Man lives in Indiana and makes a gross income of $115,000 a year.
Woman lives in Illinois and makes a gross income of $35,000 a year.
She
has
a 21, 17, and 9 year old boys from previous marriage.

Both are divorced.

It is then discovered that woman is unexpectedly pregnant (oops).

The man has no interest in having any involvement in the child (and
if
the
woman were to have an abortion or give the baby up for adoptuion, he
would
definitely not object). But the woman at age 45 wants to keep the
baby.

What kind of child support (rough ballpark figure) would the man
expect
to
have to pay? Which state has precedence?

I've been trying to find this on the internet, but no luck so far.

Thanks in advance.

The state where the child resides will have jurisdiction. Unless the
"man"
is proven in a court of law to be the father of the child, no child
support
can be ordered. A mother cannot just name a man as the child's father
and
get child support from him. The mother will have to hire an attorney
and
formally establish paternity through DNA testing

And if he refuses such test?

He can be court ordered to take part in the testing, and continued refusal
can
result in a finding of established legal paternity. It's sort of like
refusing
to take a sobriety test - refusal is generally considered as a statement
of
'nolo contendere'.

Well aint' that special. GUILTY, until proven innocent! The AmeriKan way.

Can you cite the specific law that establishes paternity because one refuses
such test, or is it simply "case" law where the judge makes up her OWN law
as she moves from case to case?

.


and a legal filiation
hearing before any court will order CS. Part of this process will be
for
the mother to admit to her 21 and 17 year old boys that she was having
sex
with a man to whom she was not married. That's not a very good
example
for
a mother to set for her boys.