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  #31  
Old October 23rd 06, 10:14 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.environment,talk.politics.medicine,misc.misc
Jan Drew
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Default FDA Warning Does NOT Confirm Anything

This is a LIE. And a title stated by Mark Probert.

After *I* [proclaimed to be dead in his lying UDP]--posted:

http://mental-health.press-world.com...g-confirms-adh...


09/10/2006
FDA Warning Confirms ADHD Drugs Cause Sudden Death, Heart Attack and
Strokes
Despite vested interests in the mental health industry continuously
downplaying the documented risks of ADHD drugs, the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA) has finally agreed that the public has the right
to know the drugs' deadly risks.


The FDA has ordered that the labeling of ADHD drugs include a warning
that the drugs can cause suppression of growth, psychosis, aggression
and serious cardiovascular side effects. The warnings came in the wake
of an international grassroots movement of doctors, medical personnel,
human rights activists, and parents who have long fought for full
disclosure of the documented risks of the drugs by testifying before
state and federal legislators and drug regulatory agencies, as well as
speaking out in the national media.


In it's August 22 article, "FDA Orders Strong Warning on Stimulants,"
the New York Times reports that this recent warning "significantly
strengthen[s] the risk information already on these drugs. The
warnings state in part, 'Sudden deaths, strokes and myocardial
infarction have been reported in adults taking stimulant drugs at
usual doses.'" These warnings caution about an increased risk of
strokes and heart attacks and "come after scattered reports of
children dropping dead suddenly while taking the drugs."


Steven Nissen, president of the American College of Cardiology and
chairman of cardiology at the Cleveland Clinic is quoted in the
article: "It's a very strong warning. It's appropriately worded. It
basically lets physicians and patients know that these drugs to have
serious cardiovascular side effects."


In February, an FDA advisory committee strongly recommended that the
FDA require all ADHD drugs come with a black box warning, the FDA's
strictest warning, exposing the risk of drug-induced heart attack,
stroke and sudden death. In March, a different committee convened and
recommended additional warnings about psychological side effects.


Earlier this year, Australia launched an urgent investigation into the
safety of ADHD drugs following 400 adverse reactions involving
children as young as three. The United Nations' Committee on the
Rights of the Child reported in September 2005 that it was concerned
that ADHD and ADD "are being misdiagnosed and therefore
psycho-stimulant drugs are being over-prescribed, despite the growing
evidence of the harmful effects of these drugs." In the last year
alone, there have been ten international warnings that ADHD drugs can
cause suicide, psychosis, hallucinations and mania. Four of these
warnings specifically address the potentially fatal cardiovascular
risks of ADHD drugs.


12 international warnings have been issued on the dangers of
antidepressants, which include suicide, addiction, homicidal ideation,
liver damage and heart attacks. Five of these international warnings
on antidepressants warn about the risks to pregnant women and their
newborn babies. They show the risks of taking antidepressants during
pregnancy are drug dependence for the mother as well as birth defects,
heart malformation or a fatal lung condition in the newborn.


To see more about the deadly effects of psychiatric drugs prescribed
to millions of children, read the Report on the Escalating
International Warnings on Psychiatric Drugs, published by the
Citizen's Commission on Human Rights, a psychiatric watchdog group
established by the Church of Scientology.


  #32  
Old October 23rd 06, 10:14 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.environment,talk.politics.medicine,misc.misc
Jan Drew
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Default FDA Warning Does NOT Confirm Anything

This is a LIE. And a title stated by Mark Probert.

After *I* [proclaimed to be dead in his lying UDP]--posted:

http://mental-health.press-world.com...g-confirms-adh...


09/10/2006
FDA Warning Confirms ADHD Drugs Cause Sudden Death, Heart Attack and
Strokes
Despite vested interests in the mental health industry continuously
downplaying the documented risks of ADHD drugs, the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA) has finally agreed that the public has the right
to know the drugs' deadly risks.


The FDA has ordered that the labeling of ADHD drugs include a warning
that the drugs can cause suppression of growth, psychosis, aggression
and serious cardiovascular side effects. The warnings came in the wake
of an international grassroots movement of doctors, medical personnel,
human rights activists, and parents who have long fought for full
disclosure of the documented risks of the drugs by testifying before
state and federal legislators and drug regulatory agencies, as well as
speaking out in the national media.


In it's August 22 article, "FDA Orders Strong Warning on Stimulants,"
the New York Times reports that this recent warning "significantly
strengthen[s] the risk information already on these drugs. The
warnings state in part, 'Sudden deaths, strokes and myocardial
infarction have been reported in adults taking stimulant drugs at
usual doses.'" These warnings caution about an increased risk of
strokes and heart attacks and "come after scattered reports of
children dropping dead suddenly while taking the drugs."


Steven Nissen, president of the American College of Cardiology and
chairman of cardiology at the Cleveland Clinic is quoted in the
article: "It's a very strong warning. It's appropriately worded. It
basically lets physicians and patients know that these drugs to have
serious cardiovascular side effects."


In February, an FDA advisory committee strongly recommended that the
FDA require all ADHD drugs come with a black box warning, the FDA's
strictest warning, exposing the risk of drug-induced heart attack,
stroke and sudden death. In March, a different committee convened and
recommended additional warnings about psychological side effects.


Earlier this year, Australia launched an urgent investigation into the
safety of ADHD drugs following 400 adverse reactions involving
children as young as three. The United Nations' Committee on the
Rights of the Child reported in September 2005 that it was concerned
that ADHD and ADD "are being misdiagnosed and therefore
psycho-stimulant drugs are being over-prescribed, despite the growing
evidence of the harmful effects of these drugs." In the last year
alone, there have been ten international warnings that ADHD drugs can
cause suicide, psychosis, hallucinations and mania. Four of these
warnings specifically address the potentially fatal cardiovascular
risks of ADHD drugs.


12 international warnings have been issued on the dangers of
antidepressants, which include suicide, addiction, homicidal ideation,
liver damage and heart attacks. Five of these international warnings
on antidepressants warn about the risks to pregnant women and their
newborn babies. They show the risks of taking antidepressants during
pregnancy are drug dependence for the mother as well as birth defects,
heart malformation or a fatal lung condition in the newborn.


To see more about the deadly effects of psychiatric drugs prescribed
to millions of children, read the Report on the Escalating
International Warnings on Psychiatric Drugs, published by the
Citizen's Commission on Human Rights, a psychiatric watchdog group
established by the Church of Scientology.


  #33  
Old October 23rd 06, 10:22 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.environment,talk.politics.medicine,misc.misc
Jan Drew
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Default More of Mark Probert's LIES-- FDA Warning Does NOT Confirm Anything


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:YX3%g.6441$k63.5970@trndny06...
D wrote:
Jan

Thank you. I must of quit reading halfway thru the rest of his thread.
Saw something else that made me initially jump into
the fray.

oyyy. Another one of those. thank you


Do note the following:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...b9b26a7?hl=en&


No, do this:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...7eabd7c?hl=en&


  #34  
Old October 26th 06, 10:53 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.environment,talk.politics.medicine,misc.misc
MothWrangler
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Default FDA Warning Does NOT Confirm Anything

D wrote:

Peter Bowditch wrote:

"D" wrote:


Kent Paul Dolan wrote:

Mark Probert wrote:


Subject: FDA Warning Does NOT Confirm Anything

Says Mark Probert, well documented compulsive
pathological liar, drug company apologist, and
Usenet stalker.


http://mental-health.press-world.com...d-strokes.html

company: Citizens Commission on Human Rights

The front group for the Kriminal Kult of
$cientology

So you'd reject the datum "the sky is blue" if the
Scientologists said it? They're reporting the ruling

Kent

Am I incorrect. Mark was not referring to the Commission on Human
rights, he was
actually referring to that Scientology BS???


CCHR is a Scientology front organisation. They are the same thing.

--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles



Peter

Since your links show no credibility, I have to assume that your
statement CCHR is a Scientology front
org. could be a white lie. And you are out to misinform me.
Anyone else can you help me out, here


It's true that CCHR has connections to Scientology, and that's hardly
information that CCHR tries to hide.

This information is from the CCHR's FAQs which are on their web site at
http://www.cchr.org/index.cfm/7080:

"CCHR was founded in 1969 by the Church of Scientology and the
internationally acclaimed author, Dr. Thomas Szasz,....We are proud to
have been founded by the Church of Scientology, which has a long and
impressive history of human rights achievements. CCHR members work
closely with Church members on social reform issues and consult with the
Church’s social reform or human rights departments."

[By posting this information, I make no claim as to the accuracy of the
quoted material that says that the Church of Scientology has a "long and
impressive history of human rights achievements."]


Nancy
Unique, like everyone else


  #35  
Old October 27th 06, 01:14 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.environment,talk.politics.medicine,misc.misc
Jan Drew
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Default FDA Warning Does NOT Confirm Anything


"MothWrangler" wrote in message
...

snip what's already been posted

http://mental-health.press-world.com...g-confirms-adh...



Mark making a further fool of himself.

Must be because he drugged his child with ADHD drugs.


FDA Warning Confirms ADHD Drugs Cause Sudden Death, Heart Attack and
Strokes
Despite vested interests in the mental health industry continuously
downplaying the documented risks of ADHD drugs, the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA) has finally agreed that the public has the right to
know the drugs' deadly risks.


The FDA has ordered that the labeling of ADHD drugs include a warning
that the drugs can cause suppression of growth, psychosis, aggression and
serious cardiovascular side effects. The warnings came in the wake of an
international grassroots movement of doctors, medical personnel, human
rights activists, and parents who have long fought for full disclosure of
the documented risks of the drugs by testifying before state and federal
legislators and drug regulatory agencies, as well as speaking out in the
national media.


Steven Nissen, president of the American College of Cardiology and chairman
of cardiology at the Cleveland Clinic is quoted in the article: "It's a very
strong warning. It's appropriately worded. It basically lets physicians and
patients know that these drugs to have serious cardiovascular side effects."


In it's August 22 article, "FDA Orders Strong Warning on Stimulants," the
New York Times reports that this recent warning "significantly strengthen[s]
the risk information already on these drugs. The warnings state in part,
'Sudden deaths, strokes and myocardial infarction have been reported in
adults taking stimulant drugs at usual doses.'" These warnings caution about
an increased risk of strokes and heart attacks and "come after scattered
reports of children dropping dead suddenly while taking the drugs."




http://www.drug-injury.com/druginjur...proves_ne.html




Nancy
Unique, like everyone else




  #36  
Old November 6th 06, 05:10 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines,sci.environment,talk.politics.medicine
D
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Default FDA Warning Does NOT Confirm Anything

Mark

The media manipulates us, we the people. The media is own by Big
Business who makes big moola off of having drugs in
the wings for every little problem we as Americans are having, or are
going to have sooner than we think.

An example you say. Ok how about the fact that before we even knew
"RESTLESS LEGS SYNDROME " was a problem,
like COPD is a problem and asthma and diabetics is a problem, that they
already had tested a medicine that was not
intended for use for this problem, but they somehow find out way way
way way way inadvance that when this problem
hit the public, oh joy oh ruptor oh unforeseen, they already had a drug
specifically for "RESTLESS LEGS SYDROME". How
do I know this, well just take a look at their advertisements on TV.
They tell us we have a problem in that regard, and
how amazing is it that oh now my legs hurt like that. And thousands
upon thousands of other legs start hurting just like
that. And oh by the way thru Tv ads they have a drug called "requip"
that will handle just this problem now .

My question is " How the heck did they give us the problem that we knew
nothing about until they started advertising about it? Because they
had a drug really quick to hand out (or that they could make more money
on) to the unsuspecting public
before the public ever suspected their was a problem. Seems to me the
media got used quite well by Big Business here
to their endeavors and not to ours

I wonder what they have waiting in the wings for when they set the
Asian Flu on us. I bet Jan does do

dboots

..
Mark Probert wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
Weather From HELL!!! CO2 Storms!!! wrote:
Mark Probert wrote in news:rtw_g.162$6f4.30@trndny01:

Weather From HELL!!! CO2 Storms!!! wrote:
Mark Probert wrote in
news:JRu_g.138$gZ2.126@trndny07:

http://mental-health.press-world.com...nfirms-adhd-dr
ugs-cause-sudden-death-heart-attack-and-strokes.html


company: Citizens Commission on Human Rights

The front group for the Kriminal Kult of $cientology
Is that anything like the Kriminal Kult of Republican$?
Far more insidious.
Let's review the facts:

--- the Kriminal Kult of Republican$ has lots more $$$, has elected a son and grandson of a nazi banker as
president, invaded Iraq to capture the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world, is currently growing (with
strongmen warlord partners) the biggest opium crop in Afghanistan the world has ever seen...

--- Kriminal Kult of $cientology has several top box office movie stars as members.

Is that about it?
I would phrase your list somewhat differently and include the
de-secularization of government.

However, the Kriminal Kult of $cientology is guilty of one evil worse
than all the evils of the Republicans:

They Steal Minds.
Mark

They they must be the arm of the gov't or fedrerally funded by the
gov't. To steal anything from the people.
Not in their case. They intimidated the IRS to grant them "church"
status although they had none of the parameters of a church.
Mark

But doesn't that status allow their organization to be less scrutinized
by any industry? Almost like it gives
the goverment more of a shield in that category.
The KK$ needs MORE scrutiny. Much more. They kill their members.

Mark

My god. You've gone from stealing their minds to killing their members
awful quick there.
Just reporting the facts. They are an evil organization.


Mark
Got a link to that or is this just one of those things you've heard
about or read about?


There are lots of links to the evils of $cientology. You can start with
Lisa MacPherson and ask her. Oops. Sorry, she is dead.

Just reading the current pages does not do justice to their evil. You
had to watch the story unfold after she died. How they played power
games with the authorities in Clearwater, and how they manipulated the
media.

You can also search on Xenu to learn more about them.


  #37  
Old November 6th 06, 02:11 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines,sci.environment,talk.politics.medicine
Mark Probert
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Default FDA Warning Does NOT Confirm Anything

D wrote:
Mark

The media manipulates us, we the people. The media is own by Big
Business who makes big moola off of having drugs in
the wings for every little problem we as Americans are having, or are
going to have sooner than we think.


I am sorry your world is so dark.


An example you say. Ok how about the fact that before we even knew
"RESTLESS LEGS SYNDROME " was a problem,
like COPD is a problem and asthma and diabetics is a problem, that they
already had tested a medicine that was not
intended for use for this problem, but they somehow find out way way
way way way inadvance that when this problem
hit the public, oh joy oh ruptor oh unforeseen, they already had a drug
specifically for "RESTLESS LEGS SYDROME". How
do I know this, well just take a look at their advertisements on TV.
They tell us we have a problem in that regard, and
how amazing is it that oh now my legs hurt like that. And thousands
upon thousands of other legs start hurting just like
that. And oh by the way thru Tv ads they have a drug called "requip"
that will handle just this problem now .


RLS has been a well recognized problem for many, many years.

My question is " How the heck did they give us the problem that we knew
nothing about until they started advertising about it?


See above. I was well aware of RLS at least a decade ago. Even then,
medical researchers had a good idea of how to treat it.

Because they
had a drug really quick to hand out (or that they could make more money
on) to the unsuspecting public
before the public ever suspected their was a problem. Seems to me the
media got used quite well by Big Business here
to their endeavors and not to ours


Seems to me that you do not have your facts lined up.

I wonder what they have waiting in the wings for when they set the
Asian Flu on us. I


Yes, your world is very dark. I will invest in flashlight futures.

dboots

.
Mark Probert wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
Weather From HELL!!! CO2 Storms!!! wrote:
Mark Probert wrote in news:rtw_g.162$6f4.30@trndny01:

Weather From HELL!!! CO2 Storms!!! wrote:
Mark Probert wrote in
news:JRu_g.138$gZ2.126@trndny07:

http://mental-health.press-world.com...nfirms-adhd-dr
ugs-cause-sudden-death-heart-attack-and-strokes.html


company: Citizens Commission on Human Rights

The front group for the Kriminal Kult of $cientology
Is that anything like the Kriminal Kult of Republican$?
Far more insidious.
Let's review the facts:

--- the Kriminal Kult of Republican$ has lots more $$$, has elected a son and grandson of a nazi banker as
president, invaded Iraq to capture the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world, is currently growing (with
strongmen warlord partners) the biggest opium crop in Afghanistan the world has ever seen...

--- Kriminal Kult of $cientology has several top box office movie stars as members.

Is that about it?
I would phrase your list somewhat differently and include the
de-secularization of government.

However, the Kriminal Kult of $cientology is guilty of one evil worse
than all the evils of the Republicans:

They Steal Minds.
Mark

They they must be the arm of the gov't or fedrerally funded by the
gov't. To steal anything from the people.
Not in their case. They intimidated the IRS to grant them "church"
status although they had none of the parameters of a church.
Mark

But doesn't that status allow their organization to be less scrutinized
by any industry? Almost like it gives
the goverment more of a shield in that category.
The KK$ needs MORE scrutiny. Much more. They kill their members.
Mark

My god. You've gone from stealing their minds to killing their members
awful quick there.
Just reporting the facts. They are an evil organization.
Mark
Got a link to that or is this just one of those things you've heard
about or read about?

There are lots of links to the evils of $cientology. You can start with
Lisa MacPherson and ask her. Oops. Sorry, she is dead.

Just reading the current pages does not do justice to their evil. You
had to watch the story unfold after she died. How they played power
games with the authorities in Clearwater, and how they manipulated the
media.

You can also search on Xenu to learn more about them.


  #38  
Old November 7th 06, 12:17 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines,sci.environment,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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Default FDA Warning Does NOT Confirm Anything

This is a repeated lie. Nothing unusal for Mark Probert.
Because he drugged his child with ADHD drugs, even though
the side effects and warnings are well known.

http://mental-health.press-world.com...g-confirms-adh...


09/10/2006
FDA Warning Confirms ADHD Drugs Cause Sudden Death, Heart Attack and
Strokes
Despite vested interests in the mental health industry continuously
downplaying the documented risks of ADHD drugs, the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA) has finally agreed that the public has the right
to know the drugs' deadly risks.


The FDA has ordered that the labeling of ADHD drugs include a warning
that the drugs can cause suppression of growth, psychosis, aggression
and serious cardiovascular side effects. The warnings came in the wake
of an international grassroots movement of doctors, medical personnel,
human rights activists, and parents who have long fought for full
disclosure of the documented risks of the drugs by testifying before
state and federal legislators and drug regulatory agencies, as well as
speaking out in the national media.


In it's August 22 article, "FDA Orders Strong Warning on Stimulants,"
the New York Times reports that this recent warning "significantly
strengthen[s] the risk information already on these drugs. The
warnings state in part, 'Sudden deaths, strokes and myocardial
infarction have been reported in adults taking stimulant drugs at
usual doses.'" These warnings caution about an increased risk of
strokes and heart attacks and "come after scattered reports of
children dropping dead suddenly while taking the drugs."


Steven Nissen, president of the American College of Cardiology and
chairman of cardiology at the Cleveland Clinic is quoted in the
article: "It's a very strong warning. It's appropriately worded. It
basically lets physicians and patients know that these drugs to have
serious cardiovascular side effects."


In February, an FDA advisory committee strongly recommended that the
FDA require all ADHD drugs come with a black box warning, the FDA's
strictest warning, exposing the risk of drug-induced heart attack,
stroke and sudden death. In March, a different committee convened and
recommended additional warnings about psychological side effects.


Earlier this year, Australia launched an urgent investigation into the
safety of ADHD drugs following 400 adverse reactions involving
children as young as three. The United Nations' Committee on the
Rights of the Child reported in September 2005 that it was concerned
that ADHD and ADD "are being misdiagnosed and therefore
psycho-stimulant drugs are being over-prescribed, despite the growing
evidence of the harmful effects of these drugs." In the last year
alone, there have been ten international warnings that ADHD drugs can
cause suicide, psychosis, hallucinations and mania. Four of these
warnings specifically address the potentially fatal cardiovascular
risks of ADHD drugs.


12 international warnings have been issued on the dangers of
antidepressants, which include suicide, addiction, homicidal ideation,
liver damage and heart attacks. Five of these international warnings
on antidepressants warn about the risks to pregnant women and their
newborn babies. They show the risks of taking antidepressants during
pregnancy are drug dependence for the mother as well as birth defects,
heart malformation or a fatal lung condition in the newborn.


To see more about the deadly effects of psychiatric drugs prescribed
to millions of children, read the Report on the Escalating
International Warnings on Psychiatric Drugs, published by the
Citizen's Commission on Human Rights, a psychiatric watchdog group
established by the Church of Scientology.



  #39  
Old December 14th 06, 01:40 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines,sci.environment,talk.politics.medicine
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"D" wrote
The media manipulates us, we the people. The media is own by Big
Business who makes big moola off of having drugs in
the wings for every little problem we as Americans are having, or are
going to have sooner than we think.


As long as you continue to train yourselves to be limp peckered suckers,
then you will be limp peckered suckers.

Meanwhile we will continue to exterminate the AmeriKKKan state, as it is
the enemy of the free world.



 




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