*Gang* Behavior, Lies, Deceiving, Twisting, Insulting, False Blaming and Belittling.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....98ff24c?hl=en&

Mon, May 30 2005 8:16 am

My mother was told that her discharge and lump would go away by themselves.

One year later she underwent a radical mastectomy with lymph node
discection including the axilla.


One year after that we buried her.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....48d774d?hl=en&

Tues, May 31 2005 4:09 pm


LadyLollipop wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

Vashti wrote:


It wasn't a dark and stormy night when Mark Probert wrote:


My mother was told that her discharge and lump would go away by
themselves.


One year later she underwent a radical mastectomy with lymph node
discection including the axilla.


One year after that we buried her.


I'm so sorry to hear this Mark... this should have been prevented.



His license was yanked.


Perhaps cancer doctors on this ng should be more careful in saying:


*More common are hormonally-dependent lumps that will often subide after
a
few menstrual
cycles*



There was no lump, lump head.

There was a need for a mammogram. That was not done, as it was a managed
care program.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....2d70d89?hl=en&

Let this be proof that Mark lies over the simplest things, and then calls
names.


LL/Jan


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....a169db0?hl=en&

This is one of the best "liar, liar" statements ever by Jan. She is
accusing Mark of lying about what happened to his mother.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....cd4f250?hl=en&

Let it also be proof. that Peter is now deceiving.


LL/Jan


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....d320dbb?hl=en&

Mark you are such a liar.



I see....so you know what my mother went through.


You are ignorant. Not all cancers have "lumps". Just your head.



My mother was told that her discharge and lump would go away by
themselves.


There was a need for a mammogram. That was not done, as it was a managed
care program.


Let this be proof that Mark lies over the simplest things, and then calls
names.



You claim know my mother did not have a lump. How do you know that?

[another lie, I claimed no such thing.]


Well earned names, dingbat.


And, yes, you are a moron.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....a0ecd22?hl=en&

This is one of the best "liar, liar" statements ever by Jan. She is
accusing Mark of lying about what happened to his mother.


Mark's report is stated, then Mark clearly lied.


Let this be proof that Mark lies over the simplest things, and then calls
names.


Let it also be proof. that Peter is now deceiving.



You should learn to play backgammon, Jan. It's a lot more fun than Liar
Liar.
--


--Rich


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....d76ede5?hl=en&

There was no lump, lump head.

There was a need for a mammogram. That was not done, as it was a managed
care program.
=====


One question for both Rich and Peter.


Did Mark lie?


LL/Jan


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....aa56761?hl=en&

NO.
--


--Rich

[Peter did NOT answer]


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....b7afe2d?hl=en&

I see that I was, again, less than clear. The 'lump' I was initially
referring to was not the 'lump' of the discussion. She had what appeared
to be swelling in the nipple area. That went away.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....149c6cb?hl=en&

It gets better!! Now I am deceiving because Jan says that Mark is
lying about his mother.


snip usual diversion

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....778f21e?hl=en&

Something I did not say.


Peter can see that Mark clealy lied.


Then the twisting begins.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....28a3f2c?hl=en&

Sat, Jun 4 2005 7:10 pm

"LadyLollipop" wrote in message


news:klroe.21232$nG6.14944@attbi_s22...


Any way you slice it. Any decent person does not lie, by saying there was
no lump, lump head. That clearly is a lie



It's amazing that your head continues to get lumpier and lumpier.
--

--Rich


[here comes the best, amazing what Rich will do to claim Mark didn't lie,
then turn it into

another insult.]

http://groups.google.com/group/talk....d2f3d06?hl=en&

So you post 13Kb of mess, and yes, it is a mess, just to show that Mark said
"she was told that the lump and discharge would go away," and later said
"there was no lump." There are several possible interpretations of these
remarks, of course. It's possible that there really was no lump, and the
original investigation was for a discharge only, but the doc got it wrong in
his report to her. Or maybe there was a lump, and Mark made a mistake. In
any case, it doesn't matter much. There is no motivation to lie, and the
mis-statement, if that's what it was, does not change the point that Mark's
mom was mis-diagnosed and died as a result. Mark deserves a more
compassionate response than being called a liar. Your joy at pouncing on the
word "lump" is unseemly and mean, and unchristian in the extreme. You are
just a mean bitch without a compassionate bone in your body. Your syrupy
gushings over a convicted gangster who conned you with born-again jargon do
not count as true compassion, by the way. A REAL Christian can be kind to
Jews, Catholics, and even athiests and homosexuals. A bigot like you would
never understand that.
--


--Rich


===

Now that I have posted this example of the *gang* their despicable behavior
in not only lying, but deceiving, twisting and insulting. More of the same
ole, same ole will be posted, and *I* will once again be attacked for
pointing out that Mark did indeed lie.

The truth bring unrest to the guilty.

He who permits himself to tell a lie once finds it much easier to do it a
second and a third time till at length it becomes habitual."
Thomas Jefferson

"Jan Drew" wrote in message
. net...



Now that I have posted this example of the *gang* their despicable
behavior in not only lying, but deceiving, twisting and insulting. More of
the same ole, same ole will be posted, and *I* will once again be attacked
for pointing out that Mark did indeed lie.

The truth bring unrest to the guilty.


The truth is that YOU were caught lying; plagiarizing the "Stupid Skeptic
Tricks" article. Then you lied again by claiming, "I posted it with
permission from the author." Now you are digging up old episodes of "Liar,
Liar" games in attempt at diversion from your guilt. You are a liar and a
thief, Jan, and everybody here knows it no matter how many kilobytes of
liar-liar bull**** you post.
--


--Rich

Recommended websites:

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
http://www.acahf.org.au
http://www.quackwatch.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/
http://www.csicop.org/

Jan Drew wrote:
http://groups.

This has nothing to do with AD/HD, Breast Implants, Alternative
Medicine, or Kids Health.

When trying to hold onto reality, using both hands is always wise.

"Rich" wrote in message
...

"Jan Drew" wrote in message
. net...



Now that I have posted this example of the *gang* their despicable
behavior in not only lying, but deceiving, twisting and insulting. More
of the same ole, same ole will be posted, and *I* will once again be
attacked for pointing out that Mark did indeed lie.

The truth bring unrest to the guilty.


The truth is that YOU were caught lying; plagiarizing the "Stupid Skeptic
Tricks" article. Then you lied again by claiming, "I posted it with
permission from the author." Now you are digging up old episodes of "Liar,
Liar" games in attempt at diversion from your guilt. You are a liar and a
thief, Jan, and everybody here knows it no matter how many kilobytes of
liar-liar bull**** you post.


Jan, please note that the actual author of "Stupid Skeptic Tricks" has
stated unequivocally in another thread that you never requested, nor
received, permission to publish his article. This is ironclad PROOF that you
are a liar and a thief.
--


--Rich

Recommended websites:

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
http://www.acahf.org.au
http://www.quackwatch.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/
http://www.csicop.org/

"Jan Drew" wrote in message
. net...


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....98ff24c?hl=en&

Mon, May 30 2005 8:16 am

My mother was told that her discharge and lump would go away by themselves.

One year later she underwent a radical mastectomy with lymph node
discection including the axilla.


One year after that we buried her.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....48d774d?hl=en&

Tues, May 31 2005 4:09 pm


LadyLollipop wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

Vashti wrote:


It wasn't a dark and stormy night when Mark Probert wrote:


My mother was told that her discharge and lump would go away by
themselves.


One year later she underwent a radical mastectomy with lymph node
discection including the axilla.


One year after that we buried her.


I'm so sorry to hear this Mark... this should have been prevented.



His license was yanked.


Perhaps cancer doctors on this ng should be more careful in saying:


*More common are hormonally-dependent lumps that will often subide after
a
few menstrual
cycles*



There was no lump, lump head.

There was a need for a mammogram. That was not done, as it was a managed
care program.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....2d70d89?hl=en&

Let this be proof that Mark lies over the simplest things, and then calls
names.


LL/Jan


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....a169db0?hl=en&

This is one of the best "liar, liar" statements ever by Jan. She is
accusing Mark of lying about what happened to his mother.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....cd4f250?hl=en&

Let it also be proof. that Peter is now deceiving.


LL/Jan


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....d320dbb?hl=en&

Mark you are such a liar.



I see....so you know what my mother went through.


You are ignorant. Not all cancers have "lumps". Just your head.



My mother was told that her discharge and lump would go away by
themselves.


There was a need for a mammogram. That was not done, as it was a managed
care program.


Let this be proof that Mark lies over the simplest things, and then calls
names.



You claim know my mother did not have a lump. How do you know that?

[another lie, I claimed no such thing.]


Well earned names, dingbat.


And, yes, you are a moron.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....a0ecd22?hl=en&

This is one of the best "liar, liar" statements ever by Jan. She is
accusing Mark of lying about what happened to his mother.


Mark's report is stated, then Mark clearly lied.


Let this be proof that Mark lies over the simplest things, and then calls
names.


Let it also be proof. that Peter is now deceiving.



You should learn to play backgammon, Jan. It's a lot more fun than Liar
Liar.
--


--Rich


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....d76ede5?hl=en&

There was no lump, lump head.

There was a need for a mammogram. That was not done, as it was a managed
care program.
=====


One question for both Rich and Peter.


Did Mark lie?


LL/Jan


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....aa56761?hl=en&

NO.
--


--Rich

[Peter did NOT answer]


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....b7afe2d?hl=en&

I see that I was, again, less than clear. The 'lump' I was initially
referring to was not the 'lump' of the discussion. She had what appeared
to be swelling in the nipple area. That went away.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....149c6cb?hl=en&

It gets better!! Now I am deceiving because Jan says that Mark is
lying about his mother.


snip usual diversion

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....778f21e?hl=en&

Something I did not say.


Peter can see that Mark clealy lied.


Then the twisting begins.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....28a3f2c?hl=en&

Sat, Jun 4 2005 7:10 pm

"LadyLollipop" wrote in message


news:klroe.21232$nG6.14944@attbi_s22...


Any way you slice it. Any decent person does not lie, by saying there was
no lump, lump head. That clearly is a lie



It's amazing that your head continues to get lumpier and lumpier.
--

--Rich


[here comes the best, amazing what Rich will do to claim Mark didn't lie,
then turn it into

another insult.]

http://groups.google.com/group/talk....d2f3d06?hl=en&

So you post 13Kb of mess, and yes, it is a mess, just to show that Mark said
"she was told that the lump and discharge would go away," and later said
"there was no lump." There are several possible interpretations of these
remarks, of course. It's possible that there really was no lump, and the
original investigation was for a discharge only, but the doc got it wrong in
his report to her. Or maybe there was a lump, and Mark made a mistake. In
any case, it doesn't matter much. There is no motivation to lie, and the
mis-statement, if that's what it was, does not change the point that Mark's
mom was mis-diagnosed and died as a result. Mark deserves a more
compassionate response than being called a liar. Your joy at pouncing on the
word "lump" is unseemly and mean, and unchristian in the extreme. You are
just a mean bitch without a compassionate bone in your body. Your syrupy
gushings over a convicted gangster who conned you with born-again jargon do
not count as true compassion, by the way. A REAL Christian can be kind to
Jews, Catholics, and even athiests and homosexuals. A bigot like you would
never understand that.
--


--Rich


===

Now that I have posted this example of the *gang* their despicable behavior
in not only lying, but deceiving, twisting and insulting. More of the same
ole, same ole will be posted, and *I* will once again be attacked for
pointing out that Mark did indeed lie.

The truth bring unrest to the guilty.

He who permits himself to tell a lie once finds it much easier to do it a
second and a third time till at length it becomes habitual."
Thomas Jefferson

"Jan Drew" wrote in message
. com...


Mark did not lie about his mother.

It is PROVEN that you did lie, first when you plagiarized, and again when
you claimed to have permission from the author. You are a liar and a thief.

See? No cut-and-paste; all said and done in a couple of kilobytes because I
know how to write in my own words.
--


--Rich

Recommended websites:

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
http://www.acahf.org.au
http://www.quackwatch.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/
http://www.csicop.org/

Jan Drew wrote:
snip Jan's endless accusations of lying

Hey, Jan. Concerning the article "Stupid Skeptic Tricks", you said:

"I posted it with permission from the author."

http://groups.google.com.au/group/mi...e=source&hl=en

Everyone knew it was a lie. And look what the author said:

'As the author of "Stupid Skeptic Tricks," I can state unequivocally
that Jan Drew never requested or received permission to reprint or
repost the article from me. I was doing a bit of ego-surfing, and her
dishonesty ****ed me off.'

http://groups.google.com.au/group/mi...e=source&hl=en

And we can all now state unequivocally that Jan is a liar and a thief.

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Jan Drew wrote:
http://groups.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....8fd30ea?hl=en&

Mon, May 8 2006

You snipped everything I said, and left the attribution



This has nothing to do with AD/HD, Breast Implants, Alternative Medicine,
or Kids Health.

Ohhh, yes it does!

The *Gang* Behavior, Lies, Deceiving, Twisting, Insulting, False Blaming and
Belittling is posted there..ALSO!


When trying to hold onto reality, using both hands is always wise.

The reality IS you snipped what you cannot handle, HYPOCRITE!


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....98ff24c?hl=en&

Mon, May 30 2005 8:16 am

My mother was told that her discharge and lump would go away by themselves.

One year later she underwent a radical mastectomy with lymph node
discection including the axilla.


One year after that we buried her.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....48d774d?hl=en&

Tues, May 31 2005 4:09 pm


LadyLollipop wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

Vashti wrote:


It wasn't a dark and stormy night when Mark Probert wrote:


My mother was told that her discharge and lump would go away by
themselves.


One year later she underwent a radical mastectomy with lymph node
discection including the axilla.


One year after that we buried her.


I'm so sorry to hear this Mark... this should have been prevented.



His license was yanked.


Perhaps cancer doctors on this ng should be more careful in saying:


*More common are hormonally-dependent lumps that will often subide after
a
few menstrual
cycles*



There was no lump, lump head.

There was a need for a mammogram. That was not done, as it was a managed
care program.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....2d70d89?hl=en&

Let this be proof that Mark lies over the simplest things, and then calls
names.


LL/Jan


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....a169db0?hl=en&

This is one of the best "liar, liar" statements ever by Jan. She is
accusing Mark of lying about what happened to his mother.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....cd4f250?hl=en&

Let it also be proof. that Peter is now deceiving.


LL/Jan


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....d320dbb?hl=en&

Mark you are such a liar.



I see....so you know what my mother went through.


You are ignorant. Not all cancers have "lumps". Just your head.



My mother was told that her discharge and lump would go away by
themselves.


There was a need for a mammogram. That was not done, as it was a managed
care program.


Let this be proof that Mark lies over the simplest things, and then calls
names.



You claim know my mother did not have a lump. How do you know that?

[another lie, I claimed no such thing.]


Well earned names, dingbat.


And, yes, you are a moron.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....a0ecd22?hl=en&

This is one of the best "liar, liar" statements ever by Jan. She is
accusing Mark of lying about what happened to his mother.


Mark's report is stated, then Mark clearly lied.


Let this be proof that Mark lies over the simplest things, and then calls
names.


Let it also be proof. that Peter is now deceiving.



You should learn to play backgammon, Jan. It's a lot more fun than Liar
Liar.
--


--Rich


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....d76ede5?hl=en&

There was no lump, lump head.

There was a need for a mammogram. That was not done, as it was a managed
care program.
=====


One question for both Rich and Peter.


Did Mark lie?


LL/Jan


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....aa56761?hl=en&

NO.
--


--Rich

[Peter did NOT answer]


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....b7afe2d?hl=en&

I see that I was, again, less than clear. The 'lump' I was initially
referring to was not the 'lump' of the discussion. She had what appeared
to be swelling in the nipple area. That went away.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....149c6cb?hl=en&

It gets better!! Now I am deceiving because Jan says that Mark is
lying about his mother.


snip usual diversion

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....778f21e?hl=en&

Something I did not say.


Peter can see that Mark clealy lied.


Then the twisting begins.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....28a3f2c?hl=en&

Sat, Jun 4 2005 7:10 pm

"LadyLollipop" wrote in message


news:klroe.21232$nG6.14944@attbi_s22...


Any way you slice it. Any decent person does not lie, by saying there was
no lump, lump head. That clearly is a lie



It's amazing that your head continues to get lumpier and lumpier.
--

--Rich


[here comes the best, amazing what Rich will do to claim Mark didn't lie,
then turn it into

another insult.]

http://groups.google.com/group/talk....d2f3d06?hl=en&

So you post 13Kb of mess, and yes, it is a mess, just to show that Mark said
"she was told that the lump and discharge would go away," and later said
"there was no lump." There are several possible interpretations of these
remarks, of course. It's possible that there really was no lump, and the
original investigation was for a discharge only, but the doc got it wrong in
his report to her. Or maybe there was a lump, and Mark made a mistake. In
any case, it doesn't matter much. There is no motivation to lie, and the
mis-statement, if that's what it was, does not change the point that Mark's
mom was mis-diagnosed and died as a result. Mark deserves a more
compassionate response than being called a liar. Your joy at pouncing on the
word "lump" is unseemly and mean, and unchristian in the extreme. You are
just a mean bitch without a compassionate bone in your body. Your syrupy
gushings over a convicted gangster who conned you with born-again jargon do
not count as true compassion, by the way. A REAL Christian can be kind to
Jews, Catholics, and even athiests and homosexuals. A bigot like you would
never understand that.
--


--Rich


===

Now that I have posted this example of the *gang* their despicable behavior
in not only lying, but deceiving, twisting and insulting. More of the same
ole, same ole will be posted, and *I* will once again be attacked for
pointing out that Mark did indeed lie.

The truth bring unrest to the guilty.

He who permits himself to tell a lie once finds it much easier to do it a
second and a third time till at length it becomes habitual."
Thomas Jefferson

Jan Drew wrote:

snip Jan's endless accusations of lying

Hey, Jan. Concerning the article "Stupid Skeptic Tricks", you said:


"I posted it with permission from the author."


http://groups.google.com.au/group/mi...ve/msg/c4dec9f...



Everyone knew it was a lie. And look what the author said:


'As the author of "Stupid Skeptic Tricks," I can state unequivocally
that Jan Drew never requested or received permission to reprint or
repost the article from me. I was doing a bit of ego-surfing, and her
dishonesty ****ed me off.'


http://groups.google.com.au/group/mi...ve/msg/9ec117e...



And we can all now state unequivocally that Jan is a liar and a thief.

"Rich" wrote in message
...

"Rich" wrote in message
...

"Jan Drew" wrote in message
. net...



Now that I have posted this example of the *gang* their despicable
behavior in not only lying, but deceiving, twisting and insulting. More
of the same ole, same ole will be posted, and *I* will once again be
attacked for pointing out that Mark did indeed lie.

The truth bring unrest to the guilty.


The truth is that YOU were caught lying; plagiarizing the "Stupid Skeptic
Tricks" article. Then you lied again by claiming, "I posted it with
permission from the author." Now you are digging up old episodes of
"Liar, Liar" games in attempt at diversion from your guilt. You are a
liar and a thief, Jan, and everybody here knows it no matter how many
kilobytes of liar-liar bull**** you post.

Thanks for proving MY prediction..


Jan, please note that the actual author of "Stupid Skeptic Tricks" has
stated unequivocally in another thread that you never requested, nor
received, permission to publish his article. This is ironclad PROOF that
you are a liar and a thief.
--


--Rich

LOL!!!

No, Richey, YOU just proved yourself to be an IRONCLAD liar. He was NOT
the *actual* author.

You post SPAM for Skeptic Magazine.

In nearly EVERY post.

Poor, pathetic, Rich!