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Old August 18th 06, 06:01 PM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,sci.med.immunology
HCN
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Default US Govt Admits Vaccines Damage Children.


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HCN wrote:
Documentation?

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Eh, so you need statistics? I don't need to give them because I am not
trying to prove and establish a lie.

You do not even reveal your name! What is HCN? First please reveal your
real identity along with "documentation". Are you one of those
(p)harmaceutical b(l)oggers?

Jagannath.


Wow... you want to know my name just because you don't want to link to news
articles that you indicated existed?

Here is what you said:
The 60 cases of polio you report have been probed by journalists.
Nearly all these children have been immunised prior to their being
struck by polio.


If it was probed by JOURNALISTS... you would think that there would be a
link to perhaps (and this is a stretch) a NEWSPAPER article!!!


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Old August 18th 06, 07:43 PM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,sci.med.immunology
Bryan Heit
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Mark Probert wrote:
Bryan Heit wrote:
HCN wrote:
So where is it documented that homeopathy is effective against AIDS?
Is it has "successful" as it was against syphillis?



Based on the personalities of the anti-vax group, I think its pretty
obvious just how well it works for syphilis ;-)


This may be obscure for some...so be it...



The people who the joke was intended for got it. That's all that really
matters...

Bryan
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Old August 19th 06, 01:51 AM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,sci.med.immunology
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Default US Govt Admits Vaccines Damage Children.


"HCN" wrote:

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To:
H E Sri A P J Abdul Kalam Azad,
Hon'ble President of India,
Rashtrapati Bhawan,
New Delhi.


To:
H E Sri A P J Abdul Kalam Azad,
Hon'ble President of India,
Rashtrapati Bhawan,
New Delhi.

Dt: 16.08.2006

Most Revered Sir,

Please accept my respectful pranam. I have been writing to you
regularly regarding our suspicion that vaccines, and their ingredients,
could be behind many of the autism related behavioral disorders and
also neurological problems in children. The vaccine manufacturers as
well as the US based CDC and FDA have been regularly denying this link.
Recently a CDC Official resigned presumably because he did not support
the coverup in this regard. And now the coverup has been exposed. As
per a US govt led investigation, as early as 1991 doctors have
expressed that the vaccine ingredients are a probable cause behind the
many incurable illnesses that confront children today.

Sir, even though we, the vaccine damage victims, have been very sure
about this coverup and have been pleading to our Health Ministry to
probe the vaccine - development disorders, autism link, and even though
we have always been cold shouldered, this report does shock us. We can
no longer have any faith upon the medical community now who have kept
quiet on facts that have harmed us and our children for the last one
hundred years or so.

In India too the doctors have often cautioned the Health Ministry about
the dangers of an indiscriminate mass vaccination procedure. They have
repeatedly pointed out that;

1. Vaccines are not the answers to epidemics,
2. Vaccines are an untested medical procedure,
3. Vaccine side effects have never been properly determined,
4. Vaccine ingredients are too toxic to be ignored,
5. Vaccines have caused the very disease they seek to prevent,
6. Vaccine may cause death and irreversible autoimmune disorders.
7. Pregnant women, sick children, underweight children, children of
parents
with autoimmune disorders, malnourished children should not be
vaccinated,
8. Mercury is not the only dangerous ingredient of vaccines, there are
other heavy
metals, carcinogenic compounds and other neurotoxins in vaccines
besides
the dangers of contaminated serum,
9. There should be a national database of vaccine damage victims,
10.Vaccine damage victims should be treated at government expenses, be
compensated and rehabilitated at government expense,
11.Doctors should be trained on how to treat vaccine damaged infants.
12. Vaccines should be given only in emergencies, to children in
immediate danger
and after obtaining the informed consent of parents.
13. Vaccines could be shifted to a more mature age to cause the least
possible
damage.
14. Vaccine advertisements should also specify the probable vaccine
after effects.

However, under pressure from the World Health Organisation, our Health
Ministry has never been able to really address these problems. The
attitude of the doctors who support vaccinations too is a factor that
has delayed a review of the vaccination policy.

Now that the truth stares us in the face I beg of you and appeal to you
on behalf of the millions of vaccine affected infants, and on behalf of
the future generation that will choose India as their destination, to
save us from this scourge. The children have no voice, their parents
are not educated on vaccine dangers, the doctors scare those who are
reluctant to vaccinate their children with imaginary and implausible
scenarios.

I feel our government can no longer remain silent on this issue, which
has even been taken up by some sections of the press, as the pressure
on them is mounting to reveal the truth. Therefore it will be better if
the government acts before it is put on the dock by the aggrieved
parents of the innocent victims.

I feel Sir, that you can do something to shake the government machinery
from its slumber. Otherwise we will no longer feel that we are citizen
of a democratic country, and that our leaders care for our welfare.

Most respectfully yours,
Jagannath Chatterjee,
Vaccine damage victim,
Health Reform Activist.

encl: Article a,a.

cc: Sri Dr Manmohan Singh, Hon'ble Prime Minister,
Madam Sonia Gandhi, Chairperson UPA,
Sri Somnath Chatterjee, Hon'ble Speaker, Lok Sabha,
Sri L K Advani, Leader of the Opposition,
Sri Dr Anbumani Ramadoss, Hon'ble Union Minister for Health &
Family Welfare,
Smt Panabaka Laxmi, State Minister for Health,
Sri P K Hota, Secretary, Department of Health,
The Secreatary, Department of Family Welfare,
The Director General, Health Services,
Director, Department of AYUSH,
Director, Central Council for Research in Homeopathy,
Director, Central Council of Homeopathy,
Hon'ble Chief Justice, Supreme Court of India,
Chairman, National Human Rights Commission,
Hon'ble Members, AutismIndia & India Developmental Disabilities.
Dr Leo Rebello, Director, Natural Health Center, Mumbai.


August 13, 2006 at 07:10:23

Government Investigation Finds Autism Vaccine Related
by Evelyn Pringle

http://www.opednews.com
http://www.opednews.com/articles/gen..._investiga.htm
According to the most recent CDC estimates, one in 166 children in the
US suffers from an autistic disorder. Twenty years ago, autism only
affected one in 10,000 children.

For years now, studies have shown that exposure to mercury in childhood
vaccines, not only causes autism but can also result in immune,
sensory, neurological, motor, and behavioral dysfunctions similar to
traits associated with autism.

On May 21, 2003, after a three year investigation, "The Mercury in
Medicine Report" was released by the House Committee on Government
Reform, and stated in part:

"Thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines is likely related to the
autism epidemic. This epidemic in all probability may have been
prevented or curtailed had the FDA not been asleep at the switch
regarding a lack of safety data regarding injected thimerosal and the
sharper eyes of infant exposure to this known neurotoxin. The public
health agencies' failure to act is indicative of institutional
malfeasance for self protection and misplaced protectionism of the
pharmaceutical industry."

The Congressional report also said that the CDC, due to its "biases
against theories regarding vaccine-induced autism," had chosen to fund
researchers "who also worked for vaccine manufacturers to conduct
population-based immunologic studies. . ." and stated:

"The CDC in general and the National Immunization Program are
particularly conflicted in their duty to monitor the safety of
vaccines, while also charged with the responsibility of purchasing
vaccines for resale as well as promoting increased immunization rates."

The autism epidemic cannot be denied. On February 15, 2005, the GAO,
released a Report titled, "Special Education Children With Autism,"
that revealed the number of children ages 6 through 21 diagnosed with
autism receiving special education services has increased more than
500% over the past 10 years.

In a transcript, obtained under the FOIA, of a secret meeting attended
by officials from the FDA and CDC in 2000, Pediatrician Bill Weil,
acknowledged the epidemic and stated, "There are just a host of
neurodevelopmental data that would suggest that we've got a serious
problem.... The number of kids getting help in special education is
growing nationally and state by state at a rate we have not seen
before."

Thimerosal is a mercury-based preservative that was developed in the
1930s by Eli Lilly, and has been used regularly in vaccines ever since
basically to boost vaccine maker profits by allowing drug companies to
package vaccines in large containers instead of a single dose.

However, years ago children only received a small number of vaccines
that were injected with a period of time in between and one dose at a
time. Since 1988, the number of vaccines given to children before the
age of two has tripled.

Lisa Blakemore-Brown, a psychologist in the UK, has been investigating
the vaccine-autism link for years and says the reason the epidemic in
autism did not occur sooner is because before the 1990s children "were
given single vaccines with single amounts of mercury."

"But with the introduction of triple vaccines," she explains, "the
amount of mercury contained within the preservative was multiplied and
the cumulative effects are only just now being discovered by the
public."

Once the cumulative amount of thimerosal that children were receiving
through injections of 30-some odd vaccines was finally measured in
1999, the FDA discovered that infants were receiving more than 100
times the EPA's safe limit for mercury by 18 months.

Internal documents from the FDA and CDC show public health officials
knew about the increased mercury they were receiving at least since
1999. A June 29, 1999, email from FDA scientist, Peter Patriarca, to
the head of the CDC office on vaccine safety, warned that the FDA was
going to be criticized for being "'asleep at the switch' for decades by
allowing a potentially hazardous compound to remain in many childhood
vaccines and not forcing manufacturers to exclude it from new
products."

Mr Patriarca also pointed out that calculating the cumulative amount of
mercury in vaccines was not "rocket science" and involved only
ninth-grade math. He also noted the questions that agency officials
would likely be asked as:

"What took the FDA so long to do the calculations? Why didn't CDC and
the advisory bodies do these calculations when they rapidly expanded
the childhood immunization schedule?"

An internal company memo that surfaced in a lawsuit against vaccine
maker, Merck, proves the company knew infants were being injected with
unsafe amounts of thimerosal back in 1991.

The memo says a 6-month-old baby receiving shots on schedule would
receive mercury 87 times higher than established safety guidelines:

"If eight doses of Thimerosal-containing vaccine was given in the first
six months of life (3 DTP, 2 HIB, and 3 Hepatitis B) the 200 micrograms
of mercury given, say to an average size of 12 pounds, would be about
87 times the Swedish daily allowance of 2.3 micrograms for a baby of
that size."

On September 8, 2004, Dr William Egan, then acting Director of the
FDA's Office of Vaccines Research and Review, told the House Government
Reform Committee that prior to the mercury reduction initiative in
vaccines, children may have received 187.5 micrograms of mercury by 6
month's of age through routine childhood vaccinations.

People often ask why some children become autistic when so many do not.
As a neurotoxin, thimerosal, has been linked to the depletion of the
protective anti-oxidant, glutathione, which helps rid the body of
mercury. People with autism seem to be more susceptible to this effect
and most have low levels of glutathione. Therefore, their bodies have
difficulty excreting mercury.

A December 2004 report by the independent Environmental Working Group
determined that autistic children have less glutathione than normal
children. The study, led by Dr Jill James, a professor of biochemistry
and pediatrics at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, said
a glutathione deficit "may contribute to the development and clinical
manifestation of autism."

In 1999, many drug companies claimed they were reducing the amount of
thimerosal in vaccines. Some even provided product inserts that claimed
that only a trace amount of mercury still existed in the final product.
Others even claimed to be producing vaccines that were completely
mercury-free.

For instance, a September 1999, press release by vaccine maker Merck
declared: "Now, Merck's infant vaccine line is free of all
preservatives."

However, On March 8, 2005, the LA Times reported that "Merck & Co
continued to supply infant vaccine containing a mercury preservative
for two years after declaring that it had eliminated the chemical."

In fact, Merck continued to distribute vaccines containing thimerosal
until October 2001, according to a June, 2003 letter from the FDA to
Congressman Dave Weldon (R-FL), a doctor by calling, in response to an
inquiry. Dr Weldon called what Merck did "misleading."

"You had people literally into 2002," he told the Times, "getting shots
with mercury, having been told it was all taken out in 1999."

To see if vaccines were indeed thimerosal free, last year the group,
Health Advocacy in the Public Interest (HAPI), sent four vials of
different vaccines to be tested for mercury content to Doctor's Data,
an independent lab, which specializes in heavy metal testing.

The tests found that all four contained mercury, despite the claim by 2
companies that their vaccines were completely mercury-free. According
to HAPI, all four vaccines also contained aluminum which greatly
increases the toxicity of mercury for causing neuronal death in the
brain.

In fact, during further investigation, HAPI discovered that thimerosal
was still being used during the production process for most vaccines.
The drug makers claim that after production, they filter the
preservative out of the final vaccines.

However, heavy metal expert, Dr Boyd Haley, PhD, the Chemistry
Department Chair at the University of Kentucky, told HAPI that its not
possible to remove all of the thimerosal because mercury binds to the
antigenic protein in the vaccine and cannot be filtered out completely.


Experts says, a drastic decline in autism has not been seen due to the
fact that the drug makers misled the public about when thimerosal was
actually eliminated from vaccines. Because the FDA has never ordered a
recall of the vaccines previously manufactured and shipped all over the
country, many mercury-laced vaccines remained in the inventories of
health care facilities and some had an expiration date as late as
September, 2005.

In addition, pregnant women and their unborn infants, are still being
injected with a full dose of thimerosal in flu vaccines. The CDC has
ignored the tremendous amount of scientific evidence documenting the
injuries from mercury-laced vaccines and has continued to recommend flu
vaccines for all pregnant women and children over 6 months old.

Back in 2002, the research team of David and Mark Geier, released a
study based on an analysis of tens of millions of vaccines given to
during the 1990s, and presented epidemiologic evidence that
demonstrated the association of the increase in thimerosal in vaccines
with neurodevelopmental disorders.

The Geier's analysis of the government's "Vaccine Adverse Events
Reporting System" database showed statistical increases in the
incidence rate of autism, mental retardation, and speech disorders in
children receiving thimerosal-containing diphtheria, tetanus, and
acellular pertussis (DTaP) vaccines, when compared with those who
received thimerosal-free vaccines.

According to the Geiers, the usual course of DTaP vaccine consists of
primary immunizations administered at two, four, and six months,
followed up by booster shots at 18 months and five years.

By analyzing the database, the Geiers determined that there were a
total of 6575 adverse reaction reports with the DTaP
thimerosal-vaccines, compared to only 1516 adverse reaction reports
with thimerosal-free vaccines.

In one of their more recent studies in 2005, the Geiers assessed
thimerosal exposure in about 110,000 children and found a statistically
significant association between exposure to thimerosal and a host of
neurodevelopmental disorders including autism, tics, attention deficit
disorders, and speech and language delays.

The public remains largely unaware of the autism epidemic because
people hardly ever see autistic children out in the community. Aside
from taking the children to school, parents seldom take them anywhere
because of the difficulty of trying to control them outside of a
routine environment.

The increasingly number of children with this disorder is forcing
public school systems to provide more special education classrooms to
meet their needs. Autistics are the fastest-growing segment of special
ed students and schools lack the trained professionals with knowledge
of how to work with autistic children. Schools were caught completely
unprepared for this epidemic.

Unlike normal children, children with autism do not learn by watching
other people and must be taught even the simplest skills such as making
eye contact, waiting in line, following directions or how to hold a
conversation which often requires one-to-one mentoring.

Skills, behaviors and abilities vary with each child and about half of
autistic kids have few or no language skills. Some kids also suffer
from other problems that impair learning such as hearing loss or
epilepsy and many are not toilet trained.

In a program that serves Minneapolis students, each classroom usually
has 6 students and requires one licensed special ed teacher and two
special ed assistants. Toddler classrooms are smaller with 4 students
and require one licensed special ed teacher and one special ed
assistant.

Services by speech and language clinicians, occupational therapists,
social workers and adapted physical education teachers are also
available at each site based on student needs. And the educational
services reflect only part of the expense. Other costs include tuition
for summer school to help kids retain skills, transportation costs, and
psychological and behavioral evaluations.

In 2003, the California National School Board Association reported that
the number of autistic students in California had doubled over four
years and represented 13% of the state's student population of 20,377,
at a cost of up to $60,000 per student.

In July 2005, a San Mateo County California civil grand jury released a
report warning that increasing numbers of autistic children and the
high cost of their education was causing a significant drain of
resources for school districts.

The report said the number of autistics in the San Mateo county had
doubled since 2000, to more than 5,000, and the county needed to find
cheaper special ed alternatives since federal and state funding had not
kept up with spending.

The grand jury pointed to a pilot project at a school in San Bruno,
that paired four aides and one teacher with a small class and said it
was cheaper than one-on-one mentoring, which could cost $50,000 per
student.

In one year, the number of children treated for autism at centers
operated by the California Department of Developmental Services
increased 13% between 2003 and 2004. Autism now accounts for more than
half of the new cases handled at the centers, which treats various
developmental disorders, with the vast majority of cases being kids 13
and younger. The number of autistics treated at the centers rose from
5,000 in 1993, to more than 26,000 in 2005.

And the numbers are the same all across the nation. The Kentucky
Cabinet for Health and Family Services estimates that in 2006, about
25,000 Kentuckians have autism spectrum disorders, an increase from
about 1,500 in 1990.

The US Department of Education all total spends about $53 billion a
year on grades K-12 education. If the government provides $60,000 per
year to educate the currently identified school-age autistics, the tab
will run about $7 billion a year, or 13% of its entire budget. And each
year the costs will rise as the number of autistics entering the system
increases.

On December 10, 2002, Dr David Baskin, a neurosurgeon and Professor of
Neurosurgery and Anesthesiology at the Baylor College of Medicine,
testified at a Congressional Hearing and told the panel that most
autistic children will grow up and require lifelong care because they
cannot live independently. He described what he referred to as a
"horrible" fact and said:

"Over one-half will never speak. Many of them will never be able to
look at their parents and tell them they love them. It's worse than
Alzheimer's Disease. There's been a tremendous focus on Alzheimer's
Disease, but these children never had a chance to enjoy life before
they lost it."

According to Dr David Ayoub, author of the report, "Pregnancy and the
Myth of Influenza Vaccination-Is it safe, is it effective, is it
necessary?" government officials and vaccine makers are working hard to
keep the truth about vaccines and autism hidden because if they admit
guilt, it would mean they "have taken part in the largest iatrogenic
epidemic known to man."

"The fallout over admission of causality would be unprecedented," Dr
Ayoub said.

Dr Mark Geier is probably the most credentialed expert on vaccines in
the US. When he was 23, he corrected a genetic disorder in a tissue
culture, gaining distinction as one of the founders of genetic
engineering, and earning him front-page articles in the New York Times
and London Times, and a call from President Richard Nixon.

He holds an MD and a PhD in genetics from George Washington University
and spent ten years at the National Institutes of Health. After several
more years as a professor at Johns Hopkins University, he opened the
genetic laboratory and clinical practice that he co-owns today. He is
also a court-certified expert on vaccines. Based on his years of
research on autism he makes a statement similar to Dr Ayoub's.

"The current epidemic of autism may well be the greatest iatrogenic
epidemic in history. The damage already done to our society is already
in the trillions of dollars. The damage of the 9/11 terrorist attacks,
and that of the AIDS epidemic pale when compared to the current
epidemic of autism."

Eighty percent of autistics are under the age of 17. Soon states will
be forced to provide support for an enormous number of disabled adults.
Many autistics can not be left alone and must be looked after non-stop.
If the vaccine makers are not forced to pay for the damage they caused,
tax payers will be left to cover the entire expense of daily care and
housing as well as life-long medical treatment for this generation of
injured children.

As for the other reasons why officials within the FDA and CDC keep
denying the link between vaccines and autism, according to Congressman
Dave Weldon, "If it is eventually determined that an entire generation
of kids was essentially poisoned, a class-action suit against the
federal government could be on the order of hundreds of billions of
dollars, and so there's very good reason for them to try to cover this
up."

"And then when they appear as though they are covering it up," he says,
"it makes you suspicious that it's all true."

In the book, Evidence of Harm, award-winning author, David Kirby,
explains that "the stakes could not be higher. Perhaps billions of
dollars in litigation is pending against drug companies involved in
vaccine production. The deep pocketed pharmaceutical industry has
extended its financial largesse to politicians and scientists around
the country, in open pursuit of indemnity against lawsuits and, some
charge, in a darker effort to suppress evidence of thimerosal's
toxicity."

"The jury is still out on thimerosal, but deliberations are well under
way," Mr Kirby writes. "One side will emerge vindicated, and the other
will earn eternal scorn in the medical history books."

Evelyn Pringle
evelyn.pringle@...

Evelyn Pringle is a columnist for OpEd News and investigative
journalist focused on exposing corruption in government and corporate
America
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Old August 19th 06, 01:56 AM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,sci.med.immunology
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HCN wrote:
Documentation?

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Eh, so you need statistics? I don't need to give them because I am not
trying to prove and establish a lie.

You do not even reveal your name! What is HCN? First please reveal your
real identity along with "documentation". Are you one of those
(p)harmaceutical b(l)oggers?


Wow! What a Weasel!


ROTFLOL!!

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In article ,
"Magi D. Shepley" wrote:


What is a Ritalin program, Gary? I don't prescribe medication. In

fact, I
honestly couldn't tell you if any of my students TAKE medication

except for two...
one boy has a baclofen pump for spasticity



Noah has had one since 11/26/96 (my birthday). It is a remarkable
program.

I liked it so much I bought stock in the company. Even bought Noah ten
shares.


It has split twice since then and is doing great, just like Noah.


Their newest product, used to treat urinary incontinence in women, has
a great side effect: orgasms.





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Old August 19th 06, 03:09 AM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,sci.med.immunology
AllNaturalBaby
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Have you read the book "Sanctity of Human Blood"? It is a factual book
about vaccines and what they really do. It mentions the HIV/AIDs and
the connection to San Francisco. You might find it an interesting
read. I feel for anyone who gets really sick. There was a study of
people vaccinated for the measles in a town. Where 98% of the
vaccinated people ended up getting the measles and the people who
weren't vaccinated did not get the measles. It's in the book.
Vaccinated does mean you are immune to a disease.
Have you ever wondered where all of the money for cancer and AIDs is
really going? Did you know that there was a cure found for cancer by a
man in the 1930s and he unfortunately "died" soon after it was
discovered? I'll look it up, I forget his name.
Do you ever wonder why in all of these years and dollars, that not one
disease has been cured?
I don't any more.

HCN wrote:
wrote in message
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To:
H E Sri A P J Abdul Kalam Azad,
Hon'ble President of India,
Rashtrapati Bhawan,
New Delhi.

....

Like the vaccines cause less damage then the actual disease in your country.
Try talking to the over 60 victims of polio, the over 5000 who had
diptheria, and the over 30 thousand who had measles in India last year...
ask them if they would rather had a vaccine instead:
http://www.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/countryprofileresult.cfm?C='ind'

You might as well write your government requesting that they deport anyone
with a real medical degree, and only allow homeopathic doctors. That should
do really "good" things for the HIV/AIDS epidemic the
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...ow/1896372.cms


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Old August 19th 06, 03:15 AM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,sci.med.immunology
Jeff
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"AllNaturalBaby" wrote in message
ups.com...
Have you read the book "Sanctity of Human Blood"? It is a factual book
about vaccines and what they really do. It mentions the HIV/AIDs and
the connection to San Francisco. You might find it an interesting
read. I feel for anyone who gets really sick. There was a study of
people vaccinated for the measles in a town. Where 98% of the
vaccinated people ended up getting the measles and the people who
weren't vaccinated did not get the measles. It's in the book.
Vaccinated does mean you are immune to a disease.
Have you ever wondered where all of the money for cancer and AIDs is
really going?


Have you wondered why the book you mention is not available at
barnesandnoble.com?

Did you know that there was a cure found for cancer by a
man in the 1930s and he unfortunately "died" soon after it was
discovered?


What do you "died"? Are you suggesting that he is still alive?

I'll look it up, I forget his name.


Do you ever wonder why in all of these years and dollars, that not one
disease has been cured?


What do you mean not one disease has been cured? Most cases of cancer are
now cured. Infections are cured.

I don't any more.



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Old August 19th 06, 08:28 AM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,sci.med.immunology
Peter Bowditch
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"AllNaturalBaby" wrote:

Have you read the book "Sanctity of Human Blood"?


Have you read the book "Spot the Dog"?

It is a factual book
about vaccines and what they really do.


It is a book which is just as factual as "The Sanctity of Human Blood"
but is written for an audience with a higher level of comprehension of
how the world operates.

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Old August 19th 06, 11:38 AM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,sci.med.immunology
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Default Here is your "Documentation" (P)harmaceutical B(l)ogger HCN.


Hello (P)harmaceutical B(l)ogger HCN,

Here is your "documentation"
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http://www/ibnlive.com/article.php?id=7992§ion_id=3

Only vaccination will not curb polio
Meetu Jain
CNN-IBN


Shan-e-Ali had been given 15 doses of polio vaccine since his birth,
yet he
suffers from polio. Moradabad: Shan-e-Ali had been given 15 doses of
polio
vaccine since his birth. There was no chance that he would suffer from
polio. However, the one-and-a-half-year-old is now paralysed below the
waist.


"He didn't miss it a single time," says Shan-e-Ali's mother, Shannu.


What is surprising is that all the cases of polio that have been
detected in
India in the past few years, have contracted it despite being
vaccinated.


The polio vaccine is meant to target three strains of polio - P1, P2
and P3.
In 2005, 66 new cases of polio were detected, 62 of which were of the
P1
strain.


It was then that the government introduced the monovalent vaccine,
which
targets this particular strain. But despite the introduction of the new
vaccine, 16 new cases of polio were detected in 2006. All of these were
of
the P1 type.


"In the areas where these cases were detected, we have not been given
the
monovalent vaccine and now the problem is not there anymore," Health
Minister, Dr Anbumani Ramadoss said.


Most of the cases of polio are reported from the high risk endemic
areas of
UP and Bihar. This is a clear indicator of the fact that in the
effectiveness of the vaccine is under question where issues of
nutrition and
sanitation are not being addressed alongside.


Associate Professor, JNU Ritu Priya, says, "You need a twin approach.
Vaccination plus sanitation, nutrition and clean drinking water. Only
vaccination will not curb polio."


More than Rs 3,000 crore have already been spent on the pulse polio
programme. India has pushed the target of complete polio eradication by
a
year to 2007. But the question is - will this deadline be met?

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Old August 19th 06, 01:43 PM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,sci.med.immunology
cathyb
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Default Here is your "Documentation" (P)harmaceutical B(l)ogger HCN.


wrote:
Hello (P)harmaceutical B(l)ogger HCN,

Here is your "documentation"


Or perhaps not. You were asked to document the following claims:

" The 60 cases of polio you report have been probed by journalists.
Nearly all these children have been immunised prior to their being
struck by polio.


Documentation?

It is widely known in India that the governments persistence with the Oral Polio
Vaccine that employs a live virus which
is causing the problem. There are cases of children of entire villages
who have "polio like" symptoms after having received the drops.


Documentation?

5000 diptheria cases is not even a dot if you consider the population
of India. Properly treated Indian children survive diptheria as they
have over the centuries.


Documentation? "

In the following bizarre story, you haven't documented a single one of
those claims, although it does claim that kids are being vaccinated
against polio 15 times before they are one-and-a-half years old.

Try to provide some evidence of the claims you have actually made,
rather than producing more nonsense.



----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www/ibnlive.com/article.php?id=7992§ion_id=3

Only vaccination will not curb polio
Meetu Jain
CNN-IBN


Shan-e-Ali had been given 15 doses of polio vaccine since his birth,
yet he
suffers from polio. Moradabad: Shan-e-Ali had been given 15 doses of
polio
vaccine since his birth. There was no chance that he would suffer from
polio. However, the one-and-a-half-year-old is now paralysed below the
waist.


"He didn't miss it a single time," says Shan-e-Ali's mother, Shannu.


What is surprising is that all the cases of polio that have been
detected in
India in the past few years, have contracted it despite being
vaccinated.


The polio vaccine is meant to target three strains of polio - P1, P2
and P3.
In 2005, 66 new cases of polio were detected, 62 of which were of the
P1
strain.


It was then that the government introduced the monovalent vaccine,
which
targets this particular strain. But despite the introduction of the new
vaccine, 16 new cases of polio were detected in 2006. All of these were
of
the P1 type.


"In the areas where these cases were detected, we have not been given
the
monovalent vaccine and now the problem is not there anymore," Health
Minister, Dr Anbumani Ramadoss said.


Most of the cases of polio are reported from the high risk endemic
areas of
UP and Bihar. This is a clear indicator of the fact that in the
effectiveness of the vaccine is under question where issues of
nutrition and
sanitation are not being addressed alongside.


Associate Professor, JNU Ritu Priya, says, "You need a twin approach.
Vaccination plus sanitation, nutrition and clean drinking water. Only
vaccination will not curb polio."


More than Rs 3,000 crore have already been spent on the pulse polio
programme. India has pushed the target of complete polio eradication by
a
year to 2007. But the question is - will this deadline be met?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


 




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