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128 students suspended at Ind. school
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/..._st/dress_code
128 students suspended at Ind. school Classrooms were a little less crowded at Morton High School on the first day of classes: 128 students were sent home for wearing the wrong clothes. Fed up with inappropriate outfits, the principal suspended the students for one day Wednesday, minutes after doors opened at the school. Those suspended represent more than 10 percent of the 1,200 total students. The offending attire - including baggy pants, low-cut shirts, tank tops and graphic T-shirts - are banned from classrooms. Students were also cited for cell phone use. "This was the worst year I've seen in a long time," said Principal Theresa Mayerik. "It's gotten out of control, and we needed to send a message that we're not messing around." The Hammond school usually has 20 dress code violations a day. Mayerik said the infraction would be removed from students' records in 12 weeks if they had no other in-school violations. School board members said they support Mayerik and the mass suspensions. "I'd be supportive if half the school was sent home, because 99 percent will get the message our schools are for education," board president Rebecca Ward said. Clearly they are NOT -- they are for teaching kids the appropriate way to dress -- as teenagers!! In high school!! How does wearing baggy pants affect a child's education? Why must we always be controlling, controlling, controlling these kids? This sends the message that we care more about what you look like than if you learn, that appearance is more important than education. I don't give a **** what my students are wearing as long as they are in class!!!! Let them have their little teenage nonsense. Let them know they can BE THEMSELVES and still learn, still enjoy learning! You know what? You want to teach kids what is appropriate in a professional environment? Pick ONE DAY of the week to be Professional Dress Day. Then let them just be their 14-18 year old selves the rest of the week. Sheesh. I had a lot of problems with this in the school where I am now. I stood at the door in the morning and the male dean wasn't letting any girl in whose skirt he deemed too short. I would argue, pointing out that these skirts weren't too short (and they weren't -- we had administrators and teachers in shorter skirts) and what really mattered was getting these kids IN CLASS AND LEARNING *NOT* sending them home to change (and I don't even want to get into the legal liabilities of that) causing them to miss an important class. God, the stupidity DRIVES ME CRAZY! Where are our priorities? -- nimue "As an unwavering Republican, I have quite naturally burned more books than I have read." Betty Bowers English is our friend. We don't have to fight it. Oprah |
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128 students suspended at Ind. school
"nimue" wrote in message ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/..._st/dress_code Clearly they are NOT -- they are for teaching kids the appropriate way to dress -- as teenagers!! In high school!! How does wearing baggy pants affect a child's education? Why must we always be controlling, controlling, controlling these kids? This sends the message that we care more about what you look like than if you learn, that appearance is more important than education. I don't give a **** what my students are wearing as long as they are in class!!!! I hope you don't talk like that in class. Let them have their little teenage nonsense. Let them know they can BE THEMSELVES and still learn, still enjoy learning! You know what? You want to teach kids what is appropriate in a professional environment? Pick ONE DAY of the week to be Professional Dress Day. Why just one day? Why not everyday? School is everyday, not just one day. Then let them just be their 14-18 year old selves the rest of the week. Sheesh. I had a lot of problems with this in the school where I am now. I stood at the door in the morning and the male dean wasn't letting any girl in whose skirt he deemed too short. I would argue, pointing out that these skirts weren't too short (and they weren't -- we had administrators and teachers in shorter skirts) Then those teachers and administrators need to follow the dress code. and what really mattered was getting these kids IN CLASS AND LEARNING *NOT* sending them home to change (and I don't even want to get into the legal liabilities of that) causing them to miss an important class. God, the stupidity DRIVES ME CRAZY! Where are our priorities? I'm sorry, but you do not have my sympathies. There is a time and place for everthing. If they want to dress however they want to dress, it's fine. If school doesn't allow it, then do it outside of school. I prefer kids dress properly for school; because like it or not, it does set a tone. |
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128 students suspended at Ind. school
toypup wrote:
"nimue" wrote in message ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/..._st/dress_code Clearly they are NOT -- they are for teaching kids the appropriate way to dress -- as teenagers!! In high school!! How does wearing baggy pants affect a child's education? Why must we always be controlling, controlling, controlling these kids? This sends the message that we care more about what you look like than if you learn, that appearance is more important than education. I don't give a **** what my students are wearing as long as they are in class!!!! I hope you don't talk like that in class. What a pointless, ridiculous thing to say. Of course I don't. Let them have their little teenage nonsense. Let them know they can BE THEMSELVES and still learn, still enjoy learning! You know what? You want to teach kids what is appropriate in a professional environment? Pick ONE DAY of the week to be Professional Dress Day. Why just one day? Why not everyday? School is everyday, not just one day. Teenagers want to be able to express themselves through their clothing. I have no problem with that. I don't want to squash their individuality. I don't want to control every aspect of their lives. I just want them IN CLASS. Let them have their high school fun; the real world will come along soon enough. Then let them just be their 14-18 year old selves the rest of the week. Sheesh. I had a lot of problems with this in the school where I am now. I stood at the door in the morning and the male dean wasn't letting any girl in whose skirt he deemed too short. I would argue, pointing out that these skirts weren't too short (and they weren't -- we had administrators and teachers in shorter skirts) Then those teachers and administrators need to follow the dress code. and what really mattered was getting these kids IN CLASS AND LEARNING *NOT* sending them home to change (and I don't even want to get into the legal liabilities of that) causing them to miss an important class. God, the stupidity DRIVES ME CRAZY! Where are our priorities? I'm sorry, but you do not have my sympathies. There is a time and place for everthing. If they want to dress however they want to dress, it's fine. If school doesn't allow it, then do it outside of school. I prefer kids dress properly for school; because like it or not, it does set a tone. -- nimue "As an unwavering Republican, I have quite naturally burned more books than I have read." Betty Bowers English is our friend. We don't have to fight it. Oprah |
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128 students suspended at Ind. school
I found it to be distracting to be in classes with kids wearing CoEd Naked
shirts (until the school figured them out lol) This was also the "start" of the baggy jeans to your ankles pants.. kids yanking them up all the time. I dont want to see anyones undies. I dont see what the big deal is of wearing Jeans that fit and then going home and changing and expressing themselves on their own time. Some people might be suprised at how nice it is to walk without your pants falling off all the time. Tori "nimue" wrote in message ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/..._st/dress_code 128 students suspended at Ind. school Classrooms were a little less crowded at Morton High School on the first day of classes: 128 students were sent home for wearing the wrong clothes. Fed up with inappropriate outfits, the principal suspended the students for one day Wednesday, minutes after doors opened at the school. Those suspended represent more than 10 percent of the 1,200 total students. The offending attire - including baggy pants, low-cut shirts, tank tops and graphic T-shirts - are banned from classrooms. Students were also cited for cell phone use. "This was the worst year I've seen in a long time," said Principal Theresa Mayerik. "It's gotten out of control, and we needed to send a message that we're not messing around." The Hammond school usually has 20 dress code violations a day. Mayerik said the infraction would be removed from students' records in 12 weeks if they had no other in-school violations. School board members said they support Mayerik and the mass suspensions. "I'd be supportive if half the school was sent home, because 99 percent will get the message our schools are for education," board president Rebecca Ward said. Clearly they are NOT -- they are for teaching kids the appropriate way to dress -- as teenagers!! In high school!! How does wearing baggy pants affect a child's education? Why must we always be controlling, controlling, controlling these kids? This sends the message that we care more about what you look like than if you learn, that appearance is more important than education. I don't give a **** what my students are wearing as long as they are in class!!!! Let them have their little teenage nonsense. Let them know they can BE THEMSELVES and still learn, still enjoy learning! You know what? You want to teach kids what is appropriate in a professional environment? Pick ONE DAY of the week to be Professional Dress Day. Then let them just be their 14-18 year old selves the rest of the week. Sheesh. I had a lot of problems with this in the school where I am now. I stood at the door in the morning and the male dean wasn't letting any girl in whose skirt he deemed too short. I would argue, pointing out that these skirts weren't too short (and they weren't -- we had administrators and teachers in shorter skirts) and what really mattered was getting these kids IN CLASS AND LEARNING *NOT* sending them home to change (and I don't even want to get into the legal liabilities of that) causing them to miss an important class. God, the stupidity DRIVES ME CRAZY! Where are our priorities? -- nimue "As an unwavering Republican, I have quite naturally burned more books than I have read." Betty Bowers English is our friend. We don't have to fight it. Oprah |
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Tori M wrote:
I found it to be distracting to be in classes with kids wearing CoEd Naked shirts (until the school figured them out lol) This was also the "start" of the baggy jeans to your ankles pants.. kids yanking them up all the time. I dont want to see anyones undies. I dont see what the big deal is of wearing Jeans that fit and then going home and changing and expressing themselves on their own time. Some people might be suprised at how nice it is to walk without your pants falling off all the time. I think it is absolutely ridiculous to suspend kids who violate the dress code. Hello? The kids need to go to class to learn. We should not punish kids by taking away their opportunity and responsibility to learn. That is utterly counter-productive. Give the kids detention if you must, just don't take them out of class for violating a dress code. They need to know that going to class and getting an education takes priority over nearly everything. Tori "nimue" wrote in message ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/..._st/dress_code 128 students suspended at Ind. school Classrooms were a little less crowded at Morton High School on the first day of classes: 128 students were sent home for wearing the wrong clothes. Fed up with inappropriate outfits, the principal suspended the students for one day Wednesday, minutes after doors opened at the school. Those suspended represent more than 10 percent of the 1,200 total students. The offending attire - including baggy pants, low-cut shirts, tank tops and graphic T-shirts - are banned from classrooms. Students were also cited for cell phone use. "This was the worst year I've seen in a long time," said Principal Theresa Mayerik. "It's gotten out of control, and we needed to send a message that we're not messing around." The Hammond school usually has 20 dress code violations a day. Mayerik said the infraction would be removed from students' records in 12 weeks if they had no other in-school violations. School board members said they support Mayerik and the mass suspensions. "I'd be supportive if half the school was sent home, because 99 percent will get the message our schools are for education," board president Rebecca Ward said. Clearly they are NOT -- they are for teaching kids the appropriate way to dress -- as teenagers!! In high school!! How does wearing baggy pants affect a child's education? Why must we always be controlling, controlling, controlling these kids? This sends the message that we care more about what you look like than if you learn, that appearance is more important than education. I don't give a **** what my students are wearing as long as they are in class!!!! Let them have their little teenage nonsense. Let them know they can BE THEMSELVES and still learn, still enjoy learning! You know what? You want to teach kids what is appropriate in a professional environment? Pick ONE DAY of the week to be Professional Dress Day. Then let them just be their 14-18 year old selves the rest of the week. Sheesh. I had a lot of problems with this in the school where I am now. I stood at the door in the morning and the male dean wasn't letting any girl in whose skirt he deemed too short. I would argue, pointing out that these skirts weren't too short (and they weren't -- we had administrators and teachers in shorter skirts) and what really mattered was getting these kids IN CLASS AND LEARNING *NOT* sending them home to change (and I don't even want to get into the legal liabilities of that) causing them to miss an important class. God, the stupidity DRIVES ME CRAZY! Where are our priorities? -- nimue "As an unwavering Republican, I have quite naturally burned more books than I have read." Betty Bowers English is our friend. We don't have to fight it. Oprah -- nimue "As an unwavering Republican, I have quite naturally burned more books than I have read." Betty Bowers English is our friend. We don't have to fight it. Oprah |
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"nimue" wrote in message ... I think it is absolutely ridiculous to suspend kids who violate the dress code. Hello? The kids need to go to class to learn. We should not punish kids by taking away their opportunity and responsibility to learn. That is utterly counter-productive. Give the kids detention if you must, just don't take them out of class for violating a dress code. They need to know that going to class and getting an education takes priority over nearly everything. If you let them dress however they wish just to get them to come to class, then it is fashion that is taking priority over education. If they have to follow a dress code in order to get an education, then they will, if education takes priority over fashion. If the kids won't dress up to get educated, then education is not important to them and they will find other excuses to stay home. If it's not fashion, it will be something else. Really, I'd rather the kids who are at school be the kids who want to be at school. It makes for a more productive environment. The kids who won't dress up for school can congregate at some alternative school where no one cares about dress or anything else. You can go there and try to motivate them. |
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128 students suspended at Ind. school
"nimue" wrote in message ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/..._st/dress_code 128 students suspended at Ind. school Classrooms were a little less crowded at Morton High School on the first day of classes: 128 students were sent home for wearing the wrong clothes. Fed up with inappropriate outfits, the principal suspended the students for one day Wednesday, minutes after doors opened at the school. Those suspended represent more than 10 percent of the 1,200 total students. The offending attire - including baggy pants, low-cut shirts, tank tops and graphic T-shirts - are banned from classrooms. Students were also cited for cell phone use. Cell phones shouldn't be used during class, except for rare emergencies (e.g., a parent is in Iraq and can't control when she or he can call the child). I think a dress code is very good. However, for it to be useful it has to be enforced. The principal did a good job. She has to pick her battles. Jeff "This was the worst year I've seen in a long time," said Principal Theresa Mayerik. "It's gotten out of control, and we needed to send a message that we're not messing around." The Hammond school usually has 20 dress code violations a day. Mayerik said the infraction would be removed from students' records in 12 weeks if they had no other in-school violations. School board members said they support Mayerik and the mass suspensions. "I'd be supportive if half the school was sent home, because 99 percent will get the message our schools are for education," board president Rebecca Ward said. Clearly they are NOT -- they are for teaching kids the appropriate way to dress -- as teenagers!! In high school!! How does wearing baggy pants affect a child's education? Why must we always be controlling, controlling, controlling these kids? This sends the message that we care more about what you look like than if you learn, that appearance is more important than education. I don't give a **** what my students are wearing as long as they are in class!!!! Let them have their little teenage nonsense. Let them know they can BE THEMSELVES and still learn, still enjoy learning! You know what? You want to teach kids what is appropriate in a professional environment? Pick ONE DAY of the week to be Professional Dress Day. Then let them just be their 14-18 year old selves the rest of the week. Sheesh. I had a lot of problems with this in the school where I am now. I stood at the door in the morning and the male dean wasn't letting any girl in whose skirt he deemed too short. I would argue, pointing out that these skirts weren't too short (and they weren't -- we had administrators and teachers in shorter skirts) and what really mattered was getting these kids IN CLASS AND LEARNING *NOT* sending them home to change (and I don't even want to get into the legal liabilities of that) causing them to miss an important class. God, the stupidity DRIVES ME CRAZY! Where are our priorities? -- nimue "As an unwavering Republican, I have quite naturally burned more books than I have read." Betty Bowers English is our friend. We don't have to fight it. Oprah |
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In article , nimue says...
Tori M wrote: I found it to be distracting to be in classes with kids wearing CoEd Naked shirts (until the school figured them out lol) This was also the "start" of the baggy jeans to your ankles pants.. kids yanking them up all the time. I dont want to see anyones undies. I dont see what the big deal is of wearing Jeans that fit and then going home and changing and expressing themselves on their own time. Some people might be suprised at how nice it is to walk without your pants falling off all the time. I think it is absolutely ridiculous to suspend kids who violate the dress code. Hello? The kids need to go to class to learn. We should not punish kids by taking away their opportunity and responsibility to learn. That is utterly counter-productive. Give the kids detention if you must, just don't take them out of class for violating a dress code. They need to know that going to class and getting an education takes priority over nearly everything. OK - so you object to the punishment and not the rule? I agree that suspension is a pretty unimaginative way to deal with it. So, how about in-house detention, and in black slacks and white shirts as required wear. IF the parents can't support that (and run out and get the clothes), then their true value on education would be apparent. It would make the point, and the clothes would add the embarassment factor that would make the point to the kids in question. Would you go along with that? Banty -- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5222154.stm |
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128 students suspended at Ind. school
"nimue" wrote in message ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/..._st/dress_code 128 students suspended at Ind. school Classrooms were a little less crowded at Morton High School on the first day of classes: 128 students were sent home for wearing the wrong clothes. Why not a proper uniform, with a range of things to cover lots of tastes and individuality, but not turning it into a fashion show. Jen |
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128 students suspended at Ind. school
Jen wrote: "nimue" wrote in message ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/..._st/dress_code 128 students suspended at Ind. school Classrooms were a little less crowded at Morton High School on the first day of classes: 128 students were sent home for wearing the wrong clothes. Why not a proper uniform, with a range of things to cover lots of tastes and individuality, but not turning it into a fashion show. Because with a uniform that parents have to go out and buy their kids an entire new wardrobe just for school? (And if the 'range' is broad enough to cover a wide enough range, it's no longer a uniform, but a dress code.) I applaud the principle for sticking to her guns. The parents were sent letters over the summer informing them of the dress code. There was no excuse for the kids showing up on the first day improperly dressed. THe principle made it clear that the rules WILL be followed. (Though I suspect that in future the results of incorrect dress will be more like those in my daughter's school -- the kids will be made to change their clothes.) Naomi Jen |
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