One More On Recidivism:

Brandon D Cartwright wrote:

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:33:00 GMT, Kashmir wrote:

To say that
a three or four year old is ready for penile penetration is utter
crap, as far as I am concerned. *BUT* - if that child is
masturbating, by rubbing their own genitals, because it feels good,
who is to say that having someone else do it for them, even an adult,
will be harmful for them?

The child's parents?
the Police?
Any sane and decent adult?
-------------------------------
That's only know-nothing religious ignoramous-ism you're vomiting.

If the child obviously enjoys it then there can't BE harm.

And don't EVEN run the good-tasting poison analogy past us, it isn't
analogous, sex isn't poison just because you THINK it must sure be to
your Lawd Geeeezuss!

To even start to prove any harm there would have to be well-researched
studies that didn't do things like blithely mixing forcible abuse with
consensual sex and refusing to separate and analyze those groups
separately, to separate the effects of abuse from the effects of sex.

This society is SO sexually nutty that it has NEVER PERMITTED such
research to be done and reveiewed and accepted, they intentionally
frighten researchers into avoiding the question by telling any of them
who are interested that they will be branded "pedophiles"!

That's the magic hate word of the decade, as much a magic hate word as
"witch" was in old Salem! If you'll remember, the actual motivation
behind THAT hate was illicit land-acquisition, so what dark motive
will we discover behind this opportunistic "pedophile" hate-mongering?

Remember that the rich are the ones who have obtained extreme wealth on
the neurosis of fear and guilt-ridden sexuality, from prostitution and
porn and movies and even surrogate sexual appliances, such as sports
cars and boob-jobs.

The rich know that a society where people have eliminated this boogey-
man middle-man between them and their sexual fulfillment by embracing
sex and making it as normal as eating some food together would NOT
MAKE OR KEEP THEM RICH, and that then they'd be forced to go get an
honest job, and to work instead of being parasites!!

So what do the rich do?? They pay political support money to the right
wing Xtian Fundies and the rich businessmen who have adopted those
ignorant folk and given them pitchforks and burning torches and told
them to burn anyone at the stake who wants more sex in all our lives!

Why else would semi-educated right wingers join forces with uneducated
bigoted slack-jawed morons who disgust them, and why do republicans
still diddle their secretaries and lobbyists and live in terror of the
day they are found out by the slack-jawed morons and no longer have the
right-wing nutcakes to elect them???

They don't truly believe the antisex religious bigotry, they are LYING!
This duplicity about sex is what the rich use to sell you **** you
don't need but buy because you hope it just MIGHT make you more likely
to actually get a reliable supply of sex!!

They want to punish the people who promote sex be open and available
to all, they see that as cutting into their business!

The very reason this society even thinks to link sex and violence is
because it wants to do violence to people who only want to have sex!!!

They are NOT normally linked in human nature!
Steve

On Feb 21, 2:45 pm, "R. Steve Walz" wrote:
Brandon D Cartwright wrote:

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:16:22 -0800, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

Brandon D Cartwright wrote:

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:33:00 GMT, Kashmir wrote:

To say that
a three or four year old is ready for penile penetration is utter
crap, as far as I am concerned. *BUT* - if that child is
masturbating, by rubbing their own genitals, because it feels good,
who is to say that having someone else do it for them, even an adult,
will be harmful for them?

The child's parents?
the Police?
Any sane and decent adult?
-------------------------------
That's only know-nothing religious ignoramous-ism you're vomiting.

If the child obviously enjoys it then there can't BE harm.

And don't EVEN run the good-tasting poison analogy past us, it isn't
analogous, sex isn't poison just because you THINK it must sure be to
your Lawd Geeeezuss!

To even start to prove any harm there would have to be well-researched
studies that didn't do things like blithely mixing forcible abuse with
consensual sex and refusing to separate and analyze those groups
separately, to separate the effects of abuse from the effects of sex.

This society is SO sexually nutty that it has NEVER PERMITTED such
research to be done and reveiewed and accepted, they intentionally
frighten researchers into avoiding the question by telling any of them
who are interested that they will be branded "pedophiles"!

That's the magic hate word of the decade, as much a magic hate word as
"witch" was in old Salem! If you'll remember, the actual motivation
behind THAT hate was illicit land-acquisition, so what dark motive
will we discover behind this opportunistic "pedophile" hate-mongering?

Remember that the rich are the ones who have obtained extreme wealth on
the neurosis of fear and guilt-ridden sexuality, from prostitution and
porn and movies and even surrogate sexual appliances, such as sports
cars and boob-jobs.

The rich know that a society where people have eliminated this boogey-
man middle-man between them and their sexual fulfillment by embracing
sex and making it as normal as eating some food together would NOT
MAKE OR KEEP THEM RICH, and that then they'd be forced to go get an
honest job, and to work instead of being parasites!!

So what do the rich do?? They pay political support money to the right
wing Xtian Fundies and the rich businessmen who have adopted those
ignorant folk and given them pitchforks and burning torches and told
them to burn anyone at the stake who wants more sex in all our lives!

Why else would semi-educated right wingers join forces with uneducated
bigoted slack-jawed morons who disgust them, and why do republicans
still diddle their secretaries and lobbyists and live in terror of the
day they are found out by the slack-jawed morons and no longer have the
right-wing nutcakes to elect them???

They don't truly believe the antisex religious bigotry, they are LYING!
This duplicity about sex is what the rich use to sell you **** you
don't need but buy because you hope it just MIGHT make you more likely
to actually get a reliable supply of sex!!

They want to punish the people who promote sex be open and available
to all, they see that as cutting into their business!

The very reason this society even thinks to link sex and violence is
because it wants to do violence to people who only want to have sex!!!

They are NOT normally linked in human nature!

The issue here is not normal sex but adults
shaving sex with children..however much you try to conflate the two..

-------------------------
The key to the suppression of sex is the suppression of it in kids
when they start wanting it. That damages them horribly and makes them
give up on life and become slaves. This was learned early by the first
slave-masters.

Sex available to kids in families is called incest, and is the earliest
preferred sex-play desired by kids coming up on puberty, that is from
about age 8 or 9 and up.

THAT'S the connection, dumb****, and NOT some mere "conflatation".
Steve

exactly steve. its called grooming. the sex haters like brandon and
bob groom kids to hate sex at an early age. they use very technique
of brainwashing ... ridicule, humiliation, fear, rationalizing
abnormal behavior, punishment and reward. the north koreans could
learn brainwashing from brandon.

Brandon D Cartwright wrote:

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:16:22 -0800, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

Brandon D Cartwright wrote:

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:33:00 GMT, Kashmir wrote:

To say that
a three or four year old is ready for penile penetration is utter
crap, as far as I am concerned. *BUT* - if that child is
masturbating, by rubbing their own genitals, because it feels good,
who is to say that having someone else do it for them, even an adult,
will be harmful for them?

The child's parents?
the Police?
Any sane and decent adult?
-------------------------------
That's only know-nothing religious ignoramous-ism you're vomiting.

If the child obviously enjoys it then there can't BE harm.

And don't EVEN run the good-tasting poison analogy past us, it isn't
analogous, sex isn't poison just because you THINK it must sure be to
your Lawd Geeeezuss!

To even start to prove any harm there would have to be well-researched
studies that didn't do things like blithely mixing forcible abuse with
consensual sex and refusing to separate and analyze those groups
separately, to separate the effects of abuse from the effects of sex.

This society is SO sexually nutty that it has NEVER PERMITTED such
research to be done and reveiewed and accepted, they intentionally
frighten researchers into avoiding the question by telling any of them
who are interested that they will be branded "pedophiles"!

That's the magic hate word of the decade, as much a magic hate word as
"witch" was in old Salem! If you'll remember, the actual motivation
behind THAT hate was illicit land-acquisition, so what dark motive
will we discover behind this opportunistic "pedophile" hate-mongering?

Remember that the rich are the ones who have obtained extreme wealth on
the neurosis of fear and guilt-ridden sexuality, from prostitution and
porn and movies and even surrogate sexual appliances, such as sports
cars and boob-jobs.

The rich know that a society where people have eliminated this boogey-
man middle-man between them and their sexual fulfillment by embracing
sex and making it as normal as eating some food together would NOT
MAKE OR KEEP THEM RICH, and that then they'd be forced to go get an
honest job, and to work instead of being parasites!!

So what do the rich do?? They pay political support money to the right
wing Xtian Fundies and the rich businessmen who have adopted those
ignorant folk and given them pitchforks and burning torches and told
them to burn anyone at the stake who wants more sex in all our lives!

Why else would semi-educated right wingers join forces with uneducated
bigoted slack-jawed morons who disgust them, and why do republicans
still diddle their secretaries and lobbyists and live in terror of the
day they are found out by the slack-jawed morons and no longer have the
right-wing nutcakes to elect them???

They don't truly believe the antisex religious bigotry, they are LYING!
This duplicity about sex is what the rich use to sell you **** you
don't need but buy because you hope it just MIGHT make you more likely
to actually get a reliable supply of sex!!

They want to punish the people who promote sex be open and available
to all, they see that as cutting into their business!

The very reason this society even thinks to link sex and violence is
because it wants to do violence to people who only want to have sex!!!

They are NOT normally linked in human nature!

The issue here is not normal sex but adults
shaving sex with children..however much you try to conflate the two..
-------------------------
The key to the suppression of sex is the suppression of it in kids
when they start wanting it. That damages them horribly and makes them
give up on life and become slaves. This was learned early by the first
slave-masters.

Sex available to kids in families is called incest, and is the earliest
preferred sex-play desired by kids coming up on puberty, that is from
about age 8 or 9 and up.

THAT'S the connection, dumb****, and NOT some mere "conflatation".
Steve