Yippee! It's Over!!

Received a check from Florida today for 291.63. We haven't had any
communication with them since the letter telling us to send them the 480.+
Go figure!
Now, all they owe us is 82.00 and I'm not going to fight it. I consider our
relationship with
FL/DOR and child support orders permanently severed. I am now looking
forward to
replacing my '89 Audi with 164,000 miles on it for something I can actually
drive out of town.
without having to be towed back ;-).
(NCPs & Second Wives--Remember, it does end eventually)
==
==


--
There may not be much difference
between Marilyn Monroe and Lenny
Bruce. If we check their coffins.
--John Lennon

"dani" wrote in message
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gini52 wrote:
Received a check from Florida today for 291.63. We haven't had any
communication with them since the letter telling us to send them the
480.+
Go figure!
Now, all they owe us is 82.00 and I'm not going to fight it. I consider
our
relationship with
FL/DOR and child support orders permanently severed. I am now looking
forward to
replacing my '89 Audi with 164,000 miles on it for something I can
actually
drive out of town.
without having to be towed back ;-).
(NCPs & Second Wives--Remember, it does end eventually)
==
==


Cool. But, I would go after the $82 on principle. You know they
probably do this to everyone, the a-holes. What's $82 x 100,000 or
more. Besides you owe them. Make them the gift that keeps on giving,
like a nice long letter to their superiors.
==
Hehe--There are no superiors in Florida DOR--the supervisors are the ones
who encourage
the peeons to cheat in every conceivable way with NCPs. It would not
surprise me if they have a handbook
of illegal tactical maneuvers for use on NCPs.
I might let the 82. go but will not concede to DOR. (They might still send
the money, I guess).
I am now in a better position to be more vocal about DOR tactics and will be
in touch with all
the members of the Florida Legislature's Family Law Committee. They will
know what DOR has done to fathers and second families. I cannot comprehend
what it is like to have a FL order for young children and children/second
family to support.
My main fight will be to change the FL child support guidelines to consider
subsequent children
and expose violations of the Family Law Rules of Procedure used against
fathers.
==

Anyway, very cool that it's over. I hope you are not leaving the NG as
your words to a lot of people, I'm sure, have made a big difference.

~Dani
==
Thanks much, Dani. It is very cool. I'll be around. Can't let Layne off that
easily :-)
(Besides, this check might bounce.)
==
==

"gini52" wrote in message
...
Received a check from Florida today for 291.63. We haven't had any
communication with them since the letter telling us to send them the 480.+
Go figure!
Now, all they owe us is 82.00 and I'm not going to fight it. I consider
our
relationship with
FL/DOR and child support orders permanently severed. I am now looking
forward to
replacing my '89 Audi with 164,000 miles on it for something I can
actually
drive out of town.
without having to be towed back ;-).
(NCPs & Second Wives--Remember, it does end eventually)
==
==

Usually there is one more step before it's over. Check the Florida law on
how to close out the money judgment. There should be a way for you to ask
the Florida DOR/CSE to certify the CS obligation has been paid in full and
for them to provide that notice to the clerk of the court where the money
judgment is filed. This is an important step for several reasons. First,
it closes out the judgment forever. And second, it removes the open
judgment from credit reporting, or at least gives you a piece of paper to
show the judgment has been paid in full should it still appear on future
credit reports.

In my state the legal process for satisfactions is in an entirely different
section of the law from the normal CS stuff and is titled "Record of
Satisfaction or Assignment of Judgment; Support Orders." Our law offers two
options - one where CSE has the obligee sign a satisfaction and another
where the obligor submits a notarized affidavit to the CS program indicating
the judgment has been paid in full and asking for certification of full
payment.

Since you are in a different state make sure DOR/CSE sends separate copies
of the satisfactions to both states with the case/file numbers being managed
in each state.

"gini52" wrote in message
...

"dani" wrote in message
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Anyway, very cool that it's over. I hope you are not leaving the NG as
your words to a lot of people, I'm sure, have made a big difference.

~Dani
==
Thanks much, Dani. It is very cool. I'll be around. Can't let Layne off
that
easily :-)
(Besides, this check might bounce.)


Glad to read you'll be around. At least keep in touch if you decide to stop
participating.


Tracy
~~~~~~~
http://www.hornschuch.net/tracy/
"You can't solve problems with the same
type of thinking that created them."
Albert Einstein

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I am now in a better position to be more vocal about DOR tactics and will
be
in touch with all
the members of the Florida Legislature's Family Law Committee. They will
know what DOR has done to fathers and second families. I cannot comprehend
what it is like to have a FL order for young children and children/second
family to support.
My main fight will be to change the FL child support guidelines to
consider
subsequent children
and expose violations of the Family Law Rules of Procedure used against
fathers.

GO GO GO !!!

"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
link.net...

"gini52" wrote in message
...
Received a check from Florida today for 291.63. We haven't had any
communication with them since the letter telling us to send them the
480.+
Go figure!
Now, all they owe us is 82.00 and I'm not going to fight it. I consider
our
relationship with
FL/DOR and child support orders permanently severed. I am now looking
forward to
replacing my '89 Audi with 164,000 miles on it for something I can
actually
drive out of town.
without having to be towed back ;-).
(NCPs & Second Wives--Remember, it does end eventually)
==
==

Usually there is one more step before it's over. Check the Florida law on
how to close out the money judgment. There should be a way for you to ask
the Florida DOR/CSE to certify the CS obligation has been paid in full and
for them to provide that notice to the clerk of the court where the money
judgment is filed. This is an important step for several reasons. First,
it closes out the judgment forever. And second, it removes the open
judgment from credit reporting, or at least gives you a piece of paper to
show the judgment has been paid in full should it still appear on future
credit reports.
==
Thanks for the heads-up, Bob. In Florida it is in the Rules of Civil
Procedure. The Clerk of Court is required to send a notice of satisfaction
within 30 days of the "debtor's" written request. I will be doing that this
week.
In addition, we do have the letter from DOR that states the child support is
paid in full.
That's what they wrote just before telling us we owe them the 480. for
"costs." But, we
will get the statement of satisfaction as well as the payment history which
includes
the total amount of support paid through DOR. I'm sure the stepkids will
enjoy seeing that total ;-)
PA was never involved in this support case as it wasn't
transferred/registered here.
==
==


In my state the legal process for satisfactions is in an entirely
different
section of the law from the normal CS stuff and is titled "Record of
Satisfaction or Assignment of Judgment; Support Orders." Our law offers
two
options - one where CSE has the obligee sign a satisfaction and another
where the obligor submits a notarized affidavit to the CS program
indicating
the judgment has been paid in full and asking for certification of full
payment.

Since you are in a different state make sure DOR/CSE sends separate copies
of the satisfactions to both states with the case/file numbers being
managed
in each state.

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:20:08 -0400, "gini52" wrote:

Received a check from Florida today for 291.63. We haven't had any
communication with them since the letter telling us to send them the =
480.+
Go figure!
Now, all they owe us is 82.00 and I'm not going to fight it. I consider =
our
relationship with
FL/DOR and child support orders permanently severed. I am now looking
forward to
replacing my '89 Audi with 164,000 miles on it for something I can =
actually
drive out of town.
without having to be towed back ;-).
(NCPs & Second Wives--Remember, it does end eventually)
=3D=3D
=3D=3D
someone, somewhere must have pointed out to them a damning error in
their case... and they don't want light on it...

but your just wanting it over and done is what they're banking on...

and exactly what i did in the end too...

good luck in the future.



JD
If the Facts Fail to Support Your Position,=20
Manipulate the Data.

"J.D. Hoeye" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:20:08 -0400, "gini52" wrote:

Received a check from Florida today for 291.63. We haven't had any
communication with them since the letter telling us to send them the 480.+
Go figure!
Now, all they owe us is 82.00 and I'm not going to fight it. I consider our
relationship with
FL/DOR and child support orders permanently severed. I am now looking
forward to
replacing my '89 Audi with 164,000 miles on it for something I can actually
drive out of town.
without having to be towed back ;-).
(NCPs & Second Wives--Remember, it does end eventually)
==
==
someone, somewhere must have pointed out to them a damning error in
their case... and they don't want light on it...

but your just wanting it over and done is what they're banking on...

and exactly what i did in the end too...

good luck in the future.
==
Thank you :-)
==



JD
If the Facts Fail to Support Your Position,
Manipulate the Data.

"gini52" wrote in message
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"Tracy" wrote in message
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"gini52" wrote in message
...

"dani" wrote in message
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Anyway, very cool that it's over. I hope you are not leaving the NG
as
your words to a lot of people, I'm sure, have made a big difference.

~Dani
==
Thanks much, Dani. It is very cool. I'll be around. Can't let Layne
off
that
easily :-)
(Besides, this check might bounce.)


Glad to read you'll be around. At least keep in touch if you decide to
stop
participating.
==
Thanks--Will do. But, I'll be here for better or worse.


LOL - sounds like a real commitment to me.


Tracy
~~~~~~~
http://www.hornschuch.net/tracy/
"You can't solve problems with the same
type of thinking that created them."
Albert Einstein

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"gini52" wrote
Thanks--Will do. But, I'll be here for better or worse.

Whether we like it, or not? ;-)