Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See

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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See

GENEVA, MARCH 29, 2007 (Zenit.org).- The Holy See has told the Human
Rights Council in Geneva that "the first right of the child is to be
born."

Archbishop Silvano Tomasi, the Holy See's permanent observer to the
U.N.
offices and agencies in Geneva, made that point during a recent
address
to the watchdog council.

Speaking to the fourth session of the recently established council,
the
papal representative recalled that "The United Nations Convention on
the
Rights of the Child attributes to the child the fundamental rights of
a
person; it recognizes the child to have the same equality and dignity
as
any adult person."

"In many cases, due to lack of will and of resources, good legal
provisions and public policies are not implemented, with grave
consequences for children," the prelate affirmed, according to the
Vatican Information Service. "They often become the first victims of
famines and wars."

On the other hand, the nuncio added, "To many children the right to
life
is denied; prenatal selection eliminates both babies suspected of
having
disabilities and female children simply because of their sex, and
thus
denies the equal and intrinsic value of disabled persons and of girls
for their families and for society."

Archbishop Tomasi last Friday underlined that "the first right of
children is that of being born and educated in a welcoming and secure
family environment where their physical, psychological and spiritual
growth is guaranteed, their potential is developed, and where the
awareness of personal dignity becomes the base for relating to others
and for confronting the future."

The permanent observer recalled: "The Catholic Church's over 300,000
social, caring and educational institutions work daily to ensure both
a
peace-oriented and creative education for children, and the
development
of their talents, and to provide the reintegration of abused and
neglected children into their families, if possible, and into
society.

"To pursue the defense of their rights and the elimination of all
forms
of violence against them remains an institutional challenge for the
international community.
"Success will be reached if priority is given to the natural role of
the
family and to the public culture that recognizes that children too
are
full human persons."


So you are saying that the rights of the child overcomes the rights of
the
woman carrying that child?

Well what happens if the woman gives the child up, decides not to take
care
of that child, etc..?

You pro-liars don't get it; not every child is a wanted child so get
over
it
and accept it as a part of life because hey, women are not baby
machines
and
I am not either! (I have my tubes snipped so there will be NO
children).

If one parent wants it but the other does not, does a child have the
right
to be born?





Depending on who wants it and who doesn't.

If the mother doesn't want the fetus and the father does, well, the father
has no says in this.

Which translates to no responsibility.


If the mother wants it, and the father doesn't, well, father has no says
to
it but today, women don't ask for child support.

And it doesn't snow in Canada either........

All the father is is just a
sperm bank to them.

Thus, the father has no liability regarding how the woman chooses to utilize
such sperm.

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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See

GENEVA, MARCH 29, 2007 (Zenit.org).- The Holy See has told the Human
Rights Council in Geneva that "the first right of the child is to be
born."

Archbishop Silvano Tomasi, the Holy See's permanent observer to the
U.N.
offices and agencies in Geneva, made that point during a recent
address
to the watchdog council.

Speaking to the fourth session of the recently established council,
the
papal representative recalled that "The United Nations Convention on
the
Rights of the Child attributes to the child the fundamental rights of
a
person; it recognizes the child to have the same equality and dignity
as
any adult person."

"In many cases, due to lack of will and of resources, good legal
provisions and public policies are not implemented, with grave
consequences for children," the prelate affirmed, according to the
Vatican Information Service. "They often become the first victims of
famines and wars."

On the other hand, the nuncio added, "To many children the right to
life
is denied; prenatal selection eliminates both babies suspected of
having
disabilities and female children simply because of their sex, and
thus
denies the equal and intrinsic value of disabled persons and of girls
for their families and for society."

Archbishop Tomasi last Friday underlined that "the first right of
children is that of being born and educated in a welcoming and secure
family environment where their physical, psychological and spiritual
growth is guaranteed, their potential is developed, and where the
awareness of personal dignity becomes the base for relating to others
and for confronting the future."

The permanent observer recalled: "The Catholic Church's over 300,000
social, caring and educational institutions work daily to ensure both
a
peace-oriented and creative education for children, and the
development
of their talents, and to provide the reintegration of abused and
neglected children into their families, if possible, and into
society.

"To pursue the defense of their rights and the elimination of all
forms
of violence against them remains an institutional challenge for the
international community.
"Success will be reached if priority is given to the natural role of
the
family and to the public culture that recognizes that children too
are
full human persons."


So you are saying that the rights of the child overcomes the rights of
the
woman carrying that child?

Well what happens if the woman gives the child up, decides not to take
care
of that child, etc..?

You pro-liars don't get it; not every child is a wanted child so get
over
it
and accept it as a part of life because hey, women are not baby
machines
and
I am not either! (I have my tubes snipped so there will be NO
children).

If one parent wants it but the other does not, does a child have the
right
to be born?





Depending on who wants it and who doesn't.

If the mother doesn't want the fetus and the father does, well, the father
has no says in this.

Which translates to no responsibility.


If the mother wants it, and the father doesn't, well, father has no says
to
it but today, women don't ask for child support.

And it doesn't snow in Canada either........

All the father is is just a
sperm bank to them.

Thus, the father has no liability regarding how the woman chooses to utilize
such sperm.

Sorry, ass hole the father, had the responsibly to not have sex
with a woman that did not want to have his child. A man has the
responsibility, to not have sex, or to protect himself from getting a
STD by using a condom. Many men feel that a woman having sex with him
becomes his property, and then becomes abusive, and controlling. A
father's right to know his child, becomes a club to hold over the
woman. An abortion gets his sorry ass out of her life.





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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See

GENEVA, MARCH 29, 2007 (Zenit.org).- The Holy See has told the
Human
Rights Council in Geneva that "the first right of the child is to
be
born."

Archbishop Silvano Tomasi, the Holy See's permanent observer to
the
U.N.
offices and agencies in Geneva, made that point during a recent
address
to the watchdog council.

Speaking to the fourth session of the recently established
council,
the
papal representative recalled that "The United Nations Convention
on
the
Rights of the Child attributes to the child the fundamental rights
of
a
person; it recognizes the child to have the same equality and
dignity
as
any adult person."

"In many cases, due to lack of will and of resources, good legal
provisions and public policies are not implemented, with grave
consequences for children," the prelate affirmed, according to the
Vatican Information Service. "They often become the first victims
of
famines and wars."

On the other hand, the nuncio added, "To many children the right
to
life
is denied; prenatal selection eliminates both babies suspected of
having
disabilities and female children simply because of their sex, and
thus
denies the equal and intrinsic value of disabled persons and of
girls
for their families and for society."

Archbishop Tomasi last Friday underlined that "the first right of
children is that of being born and educated in a welcoming and
secure
family environment where their physical, psychological and
spiritual
growth is guaranteed, their potential is developed, and where the
awareness of personal dignity becomes the base for relating to
others
and for confronting the future."

The permanent observer recalled: "The Catholic Church's over
300,000
social, caring and educational institutions work daily to ensure
both
a
peace-oriented and creative education for children, and the
development
of their talents, and to provide the reintegration of abused and
neglected children into their families, if possible, and into
society.

"To pursue the defense of their rights and the elimination of all
forms
of violence against them remains an institutional challenge for
the
international community.
"Success will be reached if priority is given to the natural role
of
the
family and to the public culture that recognizes that children too
are
full human persons."


So you are saying that the rights of the child overcomes the rights
of
the
woman carrying that child?

Well what happens if the woman gives the child up, decides not to
take
care
of that child, etc..?

You pro-liars don't get it; not every child is a wanted child so get
over
it
and accept it as a part of life because hey, women are not baby
machines
and
I am not either! (I have my tubes snipped so there will be NO
children).

If one parent wants it but the other does not, does a child have the
right
to be born?





Depending on who wants it and who doesn't.

If the mother doesn't want the fetus and the father does, well, the
father
has no says in this.

Which translates to no responsibility.


If the mother wants it, and the father doesn't, well, father has no
says
to
it but today, women don't ask for child support.

And it doesn't snow in Canada either........

All the father is is just a
sperm bank to them.

Thus, the father has no liability regarding how the woman chooses to
utilize
such sperm.

Sorry,

For what?

ass hole

New word or favorite word?

the father, had the responsibly to not have sex
with a woman that did not want to have his child.

Because?

A man has the
responsibility, to not have sex, or to protect himself from getting a
STD by using a condom. Many men feel that a woman having sex with him
becomes his property, and then becomes abusive, and controlling. A
father's right to know his child,

There is no such right.

becomes a club to hold over the
woman. An abortion gets his sorry ass out of her life.

Not always.






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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See

GENEVA, MARCH 29, 2007 (Zenit.org).- The Holy See has told the
Human
Rights Council in Geneva that "the first right of the child is to
be
born."

Archbishop Silvano Tomasi, the Holy See's permanent observer to
the
U.N.
offices and agencies in Geneva, made that point during a recent
address
to the watchdog council.

Speaking to the fourth session of the recently established
council,
the
papal representative recalled that "The United Nations Convention
on
the
Rights of the Child attributes to the child the fundamental rights
of
a
person; it recognizes the child to have the same equality and
dignity
as
any adult person."

"In many cases, due to lack of will and of resources, good legal
provisions and public policies are not implemented, with grave
consequences for children," the prelate affirmed, according to the
Vatican Information Service. "They often become the first victims
of
famines and wars."

On the other hand, the nuncio added, "To many children the right
to
life
is denied; prenatal selection eliminates both babies suspected of
having
disabilities and female children simply because of their sex, and
thus
denies the equal and intrinsic value of disabled persons and of
girls
for their families and for society."

Archbishop Tomasi last Friday underlined that "the first right of
children is that of being born and educated in a welcoming and
secure
family environment where their physical, psychological and
spiritual
growth is guaranteed, their potential is developed, and where the
awareness of personal dignity becomes the base for relating to
others
and for confronting the future."

The permanent observer recalled: "The Catholic Church's over
300,000
social, caring and educational institutions work daily to ensure
both
a
peace-oriented and creative education for children, and the
development
of their talents, and to provide the reintegration of abused and
neglected children into their families, if possible, and into
society.

"To pursue the defense of their rights and the elimination of all
forms
of violence against them remains an institutional challenge for
the
international community.
"Success will be reached if priority is given to the natural role
of
the
family and to the public culture that recognizes that children too
are
full human persons."


So you are saying that the rights of the child overcomes the rights
of
the
woman carrying that child?

Well what happens if the woman gives the child up, decides not to
take
care
of that child, etc..?

You pro-liars don't get it; not every child is a wanted child so get
over
it
and accept it as a part of life because hey, women are not baby
machines
and
I am not either! (I have my tubes snipped so there will be NO
children).

If one parent wants it but the other does not, does a child have the
right
to be born?





Depending on who wants it and who doesn't.

If the mother doesn't want the fetus and the father does, well, the
father
has no says in this.

Which translates to no responsibility.


If the mother wants it, and the father doesn't, well, father has no
says
to
it but today, women don't ask for child support.

And it doesn't snow in Canada either........

All the father is is just a
sperm bank to them.

Thus, the father has no liability regarding how the woman chooses to
utilize
such sperm.

Sorry, ass hole the father, had the responsibly to not have sex
with a woman that did not want to have his child. A man has the
responsibility, to not have sex, or to protect himself from getting a
STD by using a condom. Many men feel that a woman having sex with him
becomes his property, and then becomes abusive, and controlling. A
father's right to know his child, becomes a club to hold over the
woman. An abortion gets his sorry ass out of her life.

So does fatherhood begin when a child is born, when a child is conceived, or
when the decision is made to have sex? The argument above would suggest
fatherhood begins with the man's decision to have sex.

But since the poster suggested abortion is a means to get a man out of a
woman's life, at what point does motherhood begin? The argument above would
suggest motherhood begins when the child is born.

So the question becomes, why are there different standards for the starting
points of fatherhood and motherhood?