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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On Sat, 5 May 2007 18:52:00 -0700, "DB" wrote:
"Paul Anderson" wrote in YOU claimed that abortion was homicide under English Common Law. As anyone can see, abortion was not only not a homicide, it was not even a felony. It was, a misdemeander. So by your reasoning, failure to pay CS was never a felony until recently, so the crime shouldn't exist. Contempt of Court has always been a felony, and a Judge has the power to Jail anyone in contempt until the person agrees to comply with a court order. Regardless if you regard abortion a crime or not, having a life extracted from your body ain't exactly the same as extracting a rotten tooth. Well it cost more, but a unwanted fetus is really more of a danger than a rotten tooth. And a fetus like a rotten tooth, will eventually fall out. A rotten tooth, will seldom kill, pregnancy is far more likely to kill than a rotten tooth. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On Sat, 5 May 2007 18:58:59 -0700, "DB" wrote:
"Robert" wrote in You are free to kill away my good friend, must be nice to not have a conscience? You mean like cause the world to be filled with people that are mostly, ignorant and have no rights, and women die by the millions trying to have babies that will suffer a short and miserable life. You can spin it anyway way you want, the killing of innocent life is never justified because it's not convenient for a woman's party plans. Kill away my good friend as I'll have no part of this misery, but it's not me you have to answer to! LOL Then quit accusing us of being killers, and start praying for forgiveness. For being a self righteous prick, judging others. I am betting if any God should exist, you will be damned for your sin of judging other, and lieing. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
"Paul Anderson" wrote in message ... On Sat, 5 May 2007 22:36:08 -0700, "Bob Whiteside" wrote: "Paul Anderson" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 5 May 2007 18:17:46 -0700, "Bob Whiteside" wrote: ... Let me get this straight. You post that Blackstone is your authority on Old English Law regarding abortion. No, I use Blackstone to show that you lied when you claimed abortion was homicide under Common Law. You've been dancing ever since. Now you are getting the posters mixed up. I said abortion was murder. Big whoopie ****. Murder is a subset of homicide. Abortion is not a homicide nor a murder. Never has been. *ALL* Pro-Lifers are liars on this subject as without this lie you cannot justify denying the woman her basic human rights. Actually pro-lifers are consistent in what they believe. The killing of a fetus is always a homicide or murder even when it is solicited, aided, abetted, or consented to by the mother. Pro-choicers, on the other hand, believe consent of the mother makes the killing of a fetus exempt from being defined as homicide or murder even though under all other circumstances the killing of a fetus is homicide or murder. The question pro-choicers refuse to answer is why they believe the innate value of the unborn human inside a mother changes when a mother consents to an abortion. They respond with slick slogans like her body, her choice or call critics liars. But in reality pro-choicers cannot explain or justify the inconsistencies in their position. It's the abortion laws that are inconsistent, not the pro-lifers. |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ... "Paul Anderson" wrote in message ... On Sat, 5 May 2007 22:36:08 -0700, "Bob Whiteside" wrote: "Paul Anderson" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 5 May 2007 18:17:46 -0700, "Bob Whiteside" wrote: ... Let me get this straight. You post that Blackstone is your authority on Old English Law regarding abortion. No, I use Blackstone to show that you lied when you claimed abortion was homicide under Common Law. You've been dancing ever since. Now you are getting the posters mixed up. I said abortion was murder. Big whoopie ****. Murder is a subset of homicide. Abortion is not a homicide nor a murder. Never has been. *ALL* Pro-Lifers are liars on this subject as without this lie you cannot justify denying the woman her basic human rights. Actually pro-lifers are consistent in what they believe. The killing of a fetus is always a homicide or murder even when it is solicited, aided, abetted, or consented to by the mother. Pro-choicers, on the other hand, believe consent of the mother makes the killing of a fetus exempt from being defined as homicide or murder even though under all other circumstances the killing of a fetus is homicide or murder. The question pro-choicers refuse to answer is why they believe the innate value of the unborn human inside a mother changes when a mother consents to an abortion. They respond with slick slogans like her body, her choice or call critics liars. But in reality pro-choicers cannot explain or justify the inconsistencies in their position. It's the abortion laws that are inconsistent, not the pro-lifers. I've always been interested in the curious discrepancy between what feminists maintain about post-conception reproductive choice (for women) and post-conception reproductive choice for MEN. It seems that the feminists who are most anxious to defend post-conception reproductive choice for women--up to and including the nauseating version of infanticide known as partial birth abortion--are also the ones who are most anxious to deny post-conception reproductive choice to men. Pro-choice feminists rely on biology to argue that women must have the unilateral right to decide on abortion ("her body, her choice"). However, they dismiss biology when it comes to denying the ability that Nature has given men--that of walking away from unwanted pregnancies. It's almost as if the pro-choice feminists have absolutely NO justification in principle for the inconsistency between the choices they would allow women and the choices they would allow men. It's almost as if the whole thing has been decided by the relative strengths of the feminist movement and what would be called the masculinist movement, if such a thing existed. But it couldn't be that simple, could it? |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On May 5, 11:05�pm, (Paul Anderson) wrote:
On Sat, 5 May 2007 18:52:00 -0700, "DB" wrote: "Paul Anderson" wrote in Again with the lies. *A fetus is not A LIFE -- which in this case would refer to the life of a human being. It certainly is a life. |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On May 6, 6:45�am, (Paul Anderson) wrote:
On Sat, 5 May 2007 22:36:08 -0700, "Bob Whiteside" wrote: "Paul Anderson" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 5 May 2007 18:17:46 -0700, "Bob Whiteside" wrote: ... Let me get this straight. *You post that Blackstone is your authority on Old English Law regarding abortion. No, I use Blackstone to show that you lied when you claimed abortion was homicide under Common Law. *You've been dancing ever since. Now you are getting the posters mixed up. *I said abortion was murder. Big whoopie ****. *Murder is a subset of homicide. *Abortion is not a homicide nor a murder. *Never has been. **ALL* Pro-Lifers are liars on this subject as without this lie you cannot justify denying the woman her basic human rights.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Basic human right? To kill? You be it should be deprived. |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On May 6, 10:56�am, Robert wrote:
On Sat, 5 May 2007 18:52:00 -0700, "DB" wrote: "Paul Anderson" wrote in YOU claimed that abortion was homicide under English Common Law. *As anyone can see, abortion was not only not a homicide, it was not even a felony. *It was, a misdemeander. So by your reasoning, failure to pay CS was never a felony until recently, so the crime shouldn't exist. * Contempt of Court has always been a felony, and a Judge has the power to Jail anyone in contempt until the person agrees to comply with a court order. Regardless if you regard abortion a crime or not, having a life extracted from your body ain't exactly the same as extracting a rotten tooth. * *Well it cost more, but a unwanted fetus is really more of a danger than a rotten tooth. And a fetus like a rotten tooth, will eventually fall out. A rotten tooth, will seldom kill, pregnancy is far more likely to kill than a rotten tooth. -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Contempt is not a felony. |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On May 6, 10:56�am, Robert wrote:
On Sat, 5 May 2007 18:52:00 -0700, "DB" wrote: "Paul Anderson" wrote in YOU claimed that abortion was homicide under English Common Law. *As anyone can see, abortion was not only not a homicide, it was not even a felony. *It was, a misdemeander. So by your reasoning, failure to pay CS was never a felony until recently, so the crime shouldn't exist. * Contempt of Court has always been a felony, and a Judge has the power to Jail anyone in contempt until the person agrees to comply with a court order. Regardless if you regard abortion a crime or not, having a life extracted from your body ain't exactly the same as extracting a rotten tooth. * *Well it cost more, but a unwanted fetus is really more of a danger than a rotten tooth. And a fetus like a rotten tooth, will eventually fall out. A rotten tooth, will seldom kill, pregnancy is far more likely to kill than a rotten tooth. -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Well, one thing is obvious. There is no clear distinction between you and a rotting tooth.. Its really a shame your mother didn't have you extracted with a coat hanger. |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
In article om,
Relayer wrote: On May 6, 10:56�am, Robert wrote: Well, one thing is obvious. There is no clear distinction between you and a rotting tooth.. Its really a shame your mother didn't have you extracted with a coat hanger. i take it you call yourself christian, right? -- get real. like jesus would ever own a gun or vote republican. |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On Sun, 6 May 2007 11:51:24 -0700, "Bob Whiteside"
wrote: "Paul Anderson" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 5 May 2007 22:36:08 -0700, "Bob Whiteside" wrote: "Paul Anderson" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 5 May 2007 18:17:46 -0700, "Bob Whiteside" wrote: ... Let me get this straight. You post that Blackstone is your authority on Old English Law regarding abortion. No, I use Blackstone to show that you lied when you claimed abortion was homicide under Common Law. You've been dancing ever since. Now you are getting the posters mixed up. I said abortion was murder. Big whoopie ****. Murder is a subset of homicide. Abortion is not a homicide nor a murder. Never has been. *ALL* Pro-Lifers are liars on this subject as without this lie you cannot justify denying the woman her basic human rights. Actually pro-lifers are consistent in what they believe..... Actually not. Extremely few Pro-Lifers support punishing abortion as murder -- which is inconsistent with the claim that abortion is murder. Nor does your dodge change the fact that abortion is not and never has been considered to be murder, or homicide. |
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