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Kashrut and Soy-based infant formula
chiam margalit wrote in message
om... Well, according to the Ultra O, no, breastmilk isn't pareve, it's milchig, especially if the mom is milchig and nursing at the kitchen or dining table. This is a really interesting discussion that has been going on for quite a while. While I'm with you, my kashrut is pretty strict but not THAT strict, other people differ radically and thus have kept their babies pareve (the thought of a baby being labeled as milchig or pareve cracks me up) by using soy formula. Are they concerned that breastmilk may contain meat after the mom eats meat? But if the mom eats meat in keeping with kashrut, how could her milk be treif (sp)? Why would a baby need to be only pareve to be Kosher? If the baby is only milchig, how can that not be Kosher? (If you don't mind my asking - I am genuinely interested in Jewish law.) Or, can I go and read the discussion myself? -- Cheryl S. Mom to Julie, 2 yr., 7 mo. And Jaden, 2 months Cleaning the house while your children are small is like shoveling the sidewalk while it's still snowing. |
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Kashrut and Soy-based infant formula
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chiam margalit wrote: (Robyn Kozierok) wrote in message ... In article , chiam margalit wrote: Oh, I know it's true, and I know the entire story. It's a thread on scjm that I've followed, plus I've read it in the Israeli papers. And it has carried over to the US because people have stated that they used soy formula rather than breastfeeding to ensure that their baby stay milchig, something I can't even fathom, but heck... Huh? Aren't soy formula and breastmilk both pareve? I'm sure I'm missing the point here, but I can't understand this reference (and I have breastfed while keeping kosher, though I admit I have never been strict about it with my infants). Well, according to the Ultra O, no, breastmilk isn't pareve, it's milchig, especially if the mom is milchig and nursing at the kitchen or dining table. This is a really interesting discussion that has been going on for quite a while. While I'm with you, my kashrut is pretty strict but not THAT strict, other people differ radically and thus have kept their babies pareve (the thought of a baby being labeled as milchig or pareve cracks me up) by using soy formula. Hmm, I was always under the impression that breastmilk was pareve, at least partially because for it to be milchig, it would have to be the milk of a kosher animal, which humans are not. I couldn't find anything on the OU website, but I did find the following http://www.yoatzot.org/question/37 says: Breastmilk is pareve (neither meat nor dairy). It is rabbinically forbidden to mix breastmilk directly with meat products to avoid the appearance of mixing meat and milk, but a bottle containing expressed breastmilk may be placed on a table together with meat, and may be washed with either meat or dairy utensils. I'm not sure how "Orthodox" the source is -- it is a service of Nishmat and appears to be strong on Halacha, though of course different sources may vary in their halachic rulings. I'd be interested to see other information on this issue. I'm done with breastfeeding, but I'm still quite interested in the related issues. --Robyn (mommy to Ryan 9/93 and Matthew 6/96 and Evan 3/01) |
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Kashrut and Soy-based infant formula
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Joshua Levy wrote: (Robyn Kozierok) wrote in message ... In article , chiam margalit wrote: Oh, I know it's true, and I know the entire story. It's a thread on scjm that I've followed, plus I've read it in the Israeli papers. And it has carried over to the US because people have stated that they used soy formula rather than breastfeeding to ensure that their baby stay milchig, something I can't even fathom, but heck... Huh? Aren't soy formula and breastmilk both pareve? I'm sure I'm missing the point here, but I can't understand this reference (and I have breastfed while keeping kosher, though I admit I have never been strict about it with my infants). Soy formula can be pareve, but may not be. (What if one of the things put into the formula came from pigs, or fish without scales, or they decided to add anti-oxidents which came originally from non-kosher wine?) Even worse: what if the formula was made on Shabbat? Some rabbis will not sign the kosher form for factories which operate on Shabbat, even if they are otherwise kosher. Right. I got the impression from Marjorie's post that folks were choosing kosher pareve soy formula over breastfeeding for reasons of kashrut, and that doesn't make sense to me if breastmilk is, as I have always been led to believe, also pareve. And Marjorie said that it was to "ensure that their baby stay milchig" which confused me even more, since it seemed like the whole point was to avoid feeding the baby something milchig. From googling the thread on scjm, it appears that some people choose pareve soy formula over milchig milk-based formula for reasons of kashrut (to keep the baby pareve, not milchig), but I don't see any references to choosing the soy formula over breastmilk. (I'd appreciate pointers if I'm wrong about that.) --Robyn |
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