Kids should work...

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In article , Kane
wrote:

I see you have been going anywhere but to my question in response
to
your defense of spanking and OUR confusion about spanking being
beating.

spanking is a subset of beating.

IMHO beating starts when the victim shows lasting injury:
bruises, broken bones, brain damage, death...

How about if the victim is too young to understand that the pain they're
feeling is supposed to be good for them?
...

Good point.... although I would tend to think of it as emotional or
psychological abuse then.

And the difference is?

Just so there is no doubt: I do not support any form of CP.
I didn't need it to train my dog.
I don't need it for a child either!

Good for you... and your children.

In alt.parenting.spanking Ignoramus25226 wrote:
: In article , ChrisScaife wrote:
:
: "Ignoramus29143" wrote in message
: ...
: In article , Kane wrote:
:
: I see you have been going anywhere but to my question in response to
: your defense of spanking and OUR confusion about spanking being
: beating.
:
: spanking is a subset of beating.
:
: IMHO beating starts when the victim shows lasting injury:
: bruises, broken bones, brain damage, death...
:
:

: Bruises are not "lasting damage".

Bruises are a form of injury, and severe ones may be visible for
weeks. Bruising occurs when blood vessels in the dermis rupture from an
impact and leaked blood clots in the interstitial spaces, giving rise to
the characteristic discoloration associated with bruises.

: Besides, you can inflict pretty extreme pain on someone without
: bruises showing up.

This is true.

: And also, effects of horror and humiliation and feeling abused is
: certainly a "lasting damage to the brain".

Not the brain, but certainly the psyche.

By the way, just as a point of information, Odham's Dictionary of the
English Language defines "spanking" as "a beating with a flat object."

Chris

On 9 Dec 2003, Chris wrote:

In alt.parenting.spanking Ignoramus25226 wrote:
: In article , ChrisScaife wrote:
:
: "Ignoramus29143" wrote in message
: ...
: In article , Kane wrote:
:
: I see you have been going anywhere but to my question in response to
: your defense of spanking and OUR confusion about spanking being
: beating.
:
: spanking is a subset of beating.
:
: IMHO beating starts when the victim shows lasting injury:
: bruises, broken bones, brain damage, death...
:
:

: Bruises are not "lasting damage".

Bruises are a form of injury, and severe ones may be visible for
weeks. Bruising occurs when blood vessels in the dermis rupture from an
impact and leaked blood clots in the interstitial spaces, giving rise to
the characteristic discoloration associated with bruises.

: Besides, you can inflict pretty extreme pain on someone without
: bruises showing up.

This is true.

: And also, effects of horror and humiliation and feeling abused is
: certainly a "lasting damage to the brain".

Not the brain, but certainly the psyche.

By the way, just as a point of information, Odham's Dictionary of the
English Language defines "spanking" as "a beating with a flat object."

Chris

So we should change the name this newsgroup to
alt.parenting.beating-with-a-flat-object! Don't you just love
words game? ;-)

Doan

On 8 Dec 2003, Ignoramus25226 wrote:
"Ignoramus29143" wrote in message
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In article , Kane wrote:

I see you have been going anywhere but to my question in response to
your defense of spanking and OUR confusion about spanking being
beating.

spanking is a subset of beating.

How about a swat on the buttock? Is it a spanking or a beating?

Doan