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"Doan" wrote in message ... On 18 Mar 2005 wrote: Try looking at the independent studies. How many SIX-YEAR OLDS are in these studies??? Doan Everyone, and I mean everyone, has already determined using a taser on a six year old was terrible wrong. Kane, is one of the hold-outs. Maybe it's his macho image that is being preserved. Hmmm.. does he drive a big truck and have small feet? bobb |
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bobb wrote: "Doan" wrote in message ... On 18 Mar 2005 wrote: Try looking at the independent studies. How many SIX-YEAR OLDS are in these studies??? Doan Everyone, and I mean everyone, has already determined using a taser on a six year old was terrible wrong. Everyone? Are you sure of that? Kane, is one of the hold-outs. Let me see. In the last sentence it was a reference singular, as to Kane being the ONLY one. Now it's plural as in one of the "hold-outs." Can you make up your mind, bobber? Debating a brain damaged chimpanzee is really not fair to the chimpanzee and you make me feel guilty every time I have to point out your ignorant nonsense. Here's a poster other than me responding to your idiocy, bobber: "Jason Stanley" It seems Bobb and his minions would rather the kid cut his own throat than the cops take decisive actions that keep anyone from getting hurt. Of course, had the kid actually killed himself or injured a cop then they probably would have been griping why didn't the cops shoot him. " http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...4b622cd1075f4e And bobber, your non-macho (r r r r) response, sensitive and thoughtful for the child's and the officers safety was: "Personally, I could care less if the cop got his hand cut... that's what she was being paid for. If the cop was a man I think the story would be much different. Even so, it is highly unlikely that even the cop woulda got hurt... except in your mind's eye. Imagine the worse... and use that to justify an illogical conclusion. Close your eyes and picture a little six year old cutting his own throat with a shard of glass... do you really think he would do that? Right. I wonder what other visulations run though your head...and why? bobb " (yah couldn't even sort out the gender of the cop consistently. "she" and "his." What a sap. witchy posted her disagreement with you as well, and said she'd have preferred the cops use the Taser rather than further risk injury from glass cut to the six year old if it were her child. For those readers who have forgotten, or did not follow the story of the six year old boy Tasered, here, for your edification, is the opener to this discussion, a post by someone that does not usually post he Subject: Cops taser 6 y.o. boy armed with piece of glass From: (Laura Bush murdered her boy friend) Date: 11/12/2004 12:44 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2896941 Nov. 11, 2004, 8:29PM MIAMI -- Police used a stun gun on a 6-year-old boy in his principal's office because he was wielding a piece of glass and threatening to hurt himself, officials said today. The boy, who was not identified, was shocked with 50,000 volts on Oct. 20 at Kelsey Pharr Elementary School. Principal Maria Mason called 911 after the child broke a picture frame in her office and waved a piece of glass, holding a security guard back. When two Miami-Dade County police officers and a school officer arrived, the boy had already cut himself under his eye and on his hand. The officers talked to the boy without success. When the boy cut his own leg, one officer shocked him with a Taser and another grabbed him to prevent him from falling, police said. He was treated and taken to a hospital, where he was committed for psychiatric evaluation. "By using the Taser, we were able to stop the situation, stop him from hurting himself," police spokesman Juan DelCastillo told The Miami Herald. The case was under review. ................end............ Notice the boy was in fact cutting his own leg at the time the cops acted? I guess they were just being macho chosing what they felt was the safest course of action, instead of leaping in in superman fashion to grab him. I believe we learned later that the most macho behavior, was in fact by a women cop...the one that DID move close enough to grab him when he was shocked to prevent fallign injury. So much for your crappola bobber. Additionally, this particular six year old, the only one being discussed in factual terms, did in fact already deliberately cut his face, and arm, threated to cut others, and was sawing on his leg...and would not know, usually, about the location or quick death involved in cutting the femoral artery, when the cops finally used their Taser. Let's take the safety question of six year olds, as the case was, being subjected to a Taser shock. One: the boy was uninjured by the Taser, something that you all seem to overlook. Secondly, between having a major artery in the leg cut (in fact, next to the aorta at the heart no artery or vein larger) and being shocked with a Taser, only a fool would NOT chose the Taser for survivability. One can literally bleed out fatally from a severed femoral artery, and the boy, dummy, was sawing on his leg with a chunk of broken glass. Humans used to butcher mammoths using broken glass, in fact, with less sharp edges than modern glass can produce (flint stone tools). In fact they killed animals that large using 'glass.' You ignorant twits don't know **** for facts. Break a piece of glass to use for cutting and you have a tool as sharp and sure as any surgeon's scalpel, bobber. The six year old had already cut his face, and his arm with the glass, most deliberately, and was swinging the glass shard at anyone that tried to get near him. http://lithiccastinglab.com/gallery-...kanzichimp.htm " It's hard to believe but the sharpest knives that have ever been used in recent years were mounted with stone flakes made of obsidian. A company called Aztecnics was manufacturing and selling surgical scalpels mounted with different sizes and shapes of obsidian blades. Good quality obsidian fractures down to single molecules which can produce a cutting edge 500 times sharper than the sharpest steel scalpel blade ("American Medical News", Nov. 2, 1984:21). On the cellular level an obsidian knife can cut between cells rather than tear the cells as a steel knife will do. " Do you know what obsidian is, bobber. It is the product left from the cooling of molten silica. Do you know what glass is bobber? It is the product left from the cooling of molten silica. In fact you'll find the occasional geologist that will refer to the rock, obsidian, and obsidian glass. Because of the lack of impurities in our commercial "glass" it would not surprise me if it were not even more evenly sharp and deadly than obsidian. My second off-the-ranch job as a kid (my first was sporting goods) was in hardware and glass shop. I learned to cut (controlled breakage) glass, from the thinest to the heaviest quartz for table tops. Yay know what the number one hazard is for a glazier? It's the dust from smoothing the edges of fresh "cut" glass so that someone won't take a hand off moving and installing the glass. They use water to try and catch the dust but there's always a bit of if in the air in big glass shops. Nowadays I hear glaziers use kevlar lined gloves to handle big glass at the sanders. I wish I had had them when I was a kid. http://museums.ncl.ac.uk/flint/images/skinning.jpg Notice the tiny size of the bit of "glass" this modern flint user employs to skin and animal. Anyone that's ever skinned known how tough a job this can be even with a large well sharpened knife. This guy is using a piece the size of a razorblade, and it's by scientific examination sharper than a razor blade. And: http://museums.ncl.ac.uk/flint/images/butcher.jpg This is the butchering of a small animal carcass. http://volcano.und.nodak.edu/vwdocs/.../obsidian.html A rockhound's notes: "Obsidian is natural glass that was originally molten magma associated with a volcano." ... " Like all glass and some other types of naturally occurring rocks, obsidian breaks with a characteristic "conchoidal" fracture. This smooth, curved type of fracture surface occurs because of the near-absence of mineral crystals in the glass. The intersections of conchoidal fracture surfaces can be sharper than a razor. This had obvious advantages for our Stone Age ancestors, who used obsidian extensively for tool making. " http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/sec...iesofGlass.asp "Most glass is a mixture of silica obtained from beds of fine sand or from pulverized sandstone; an alkali to lower the melting point, usually a form of soda or, for finer glass, potash; lime as a stabilizer; and cullet (waste glass) to assist in melting the mixture." Would you really try to grab a kid and risk him and you if he were waving a razor blade at you, or about to cut himself with it? The only people that were against the use of the Taser in this case were ignorant putzes such as you that have problems with authority and are willing to put children's and others lives at risk in service to your social disease. Maybe it's his macho image that is being preserved. "Macho" when it comes to matters of risk assessment and actions taken, would put YOU at the point of your claim, bobber. It was YOU that said someone should just jump in and grab that kid, a common macho kind of thinking process and action. That someone successfully managed to stop this child, with no harm to him or anyone else, and I approve of their decision and action, shows who is actually the thoughtful, intelligent, objective and correct risk analysis folks here, bobber, and who it the matcho fool willing to get people injured or killed, including the little boy, for your stupidity and anti authority sickness. It is not "macho" to use less than lethal force, or means that put all parties at LESS risk than a hands on grabbing. Hmmm.. does he drive a big truck Naw. My pickup is a nice 1/2 ton 2x old Ford kept in top shape by me. All my neighbors have 3/4 and 1 ton 4x4 rigs. Lots of "mudders" around here. and have small feet? Nope. Large feet. Big enough to kick your sorry ass repeatedly. bobb Basically bobber, you are a pack of ignorant dangerous nutsos, and I'm glad to have a few thousand miles between us using electronic means to communicate. Who knows what you might do up close and personal. Your intellectual capacity is also something to behold. Kane |
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Kane, Doug did a more than adquate job revisiting your stand in support of
using a taser on six year olds using your own posts. I should kept my reply in the singler... not plural. Gosh, one of you is enough but I am enough of a realist to know fools love company... so there must be more of you somewhere. bobb |
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bobb wrote: Kane, Doug did a more than adquate job revisiting your stand in support of using a taser on six year olds using your own posts. Nonsense. All he did was try the usual crappola, "don't bother to think for yourself" appeal to emotions using the "poor helpless innocent child" line again. I find it beneath contempt to use a child trying, whether he know it or not, to commit suicide for his, that is Doug's sickminded ****. Doug's input consisted of, if one followed it, either getting someone injured, or the standing back and letting the boy likely kill himself. You people are FICKING SUCK. (no, not a typo) I should kept my reply in the singler... not plural. Whatever are you blathering? There is no sense in that statement given your words in this post. Are you inPUCKINGsane? Gosh, one of you is enough R R R ...obviously, given that most the time on issues you assholes try to peddle you bull**** with here I am outnumbered and still wipe your asses raw. but I am enough of a realist REALIST? Yah got's to be friggering kiddin' bobber. YOU, a slimy, nonsense filled pile of ****, a misogynistic batherer, a child hating, authority phobic creep, with delusions of self importance, YOU, talking about being a "realist?" You a lowlife scum sucking racist bigot, bobber. to know fools love company... Ah, you finally understand what I mean when I refer to the "twitsquadquad," which, by the way, seems to have reduced itself to the TwitteringTrio. so there must be more of you somewhere. What you'll find bobber, much to your dismay, or to your descent into further denial and spastic catatonic withdrawal, is that YES, THERE ARE MILLIONS OF ME OUTHERE, SOMEWHERE. And we are closing in on you uncivilized savages that have been holding back humanity and have nearly destroyed the planet a time or two. Your days, bobber, collectively, are Puggering, NUMBERED. bobb **** off with your sex abuser apologist crappola, your rapist minimizing ****, your anti society and authority bull, your hate and fear driven homophobia, your woman hating viciousness. We're sick of you. And when sane, responsible, concerned people get sick of something we don't sit on our asses whining. We DO something about it. That's why you assholes are deep into the whining and lying stage, bobber, and the delusional denial. BECAUSE YOU SENSE WE ARE ON TO YOUR AND YOUR CRAP AND THE END IS NEAR FOR YOU TWITTERERS. You and your sick causes of destruction are winding down. Hope you enjoy your 'retirement.' Adn we are going to use your own **** to scrub you out of existence. WE, bobber, are a happy bunch of fun loving, caring for each other -- without discrimination, pack of joyful folks laughing you off the planet. Get used to it. Our cackles and harty laughter will be the last thing you folks hear as you fade away. It's over. We are already in mop up phase. Kane |
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wrote in message oups.com... bobb wrote: Kane, Doug did a more than adquate job revisiting your stand in support of using a taser on six year olds using your own posts. Nonsense. All he did was try the usual crappola, "don't bother to think for yourself" appeal to emotions using the "poor helpless innocent child" line again. I find it beneath contempt to use a child trying, whether he know it or not, to commit suicide for his, that is Doug's sickminded ****. Doug's input consisted of, if one followed it, either getting someone injured, or the standing back and letting the boy likely kill himself. You people are FICKING SUCK. (no, not a typo) I should kept my reply in the singler... not plural. Whatever are you blathering? There is no sense in that statement given your words in this post. Are you inPUCKINGsane? Gosh, one of you is enough R R R ...obviously, given that most the time on issues you assholes try to peddle you bull**** with here I am outnumbered and still wipe your asses raw. but I am enough of a realist REALIST? Yah got's to be friggering kiddin' bobber. YOU, a slimy, nonsense filled pile of ****, a misogynistic batherer, a child hating, authority phobic creep, with delusions of self importance, YOU, talking about being a "realist?" You a lowlife scum sucking racist bigot, bobber. to know fools love company... Ah, you finally understand what I mean when I refer to the "twitsquadquad," which, by the way, seems to have reduced itself to the TwitteringTrio. so there must be more of you somewhere. What you'll find bobber, much to your dismay, or to your descent into further denial and spastic catatonic withdrawal, is that YES, THERE ARE MILLIONS OF ME OUTHERE, SOMEWHERE. And we are closing in on you uncivilized savages that have been holding back humanity and have nearly destroyed the planet a time or two. Your days, bobber, collectively, are Puggering, NUMBERED. bobb **** off with your sex abuser apologist crappola, your rapist minimizing ****, your anti society and authority bull, your hate and fear driven homophobia, your woman hating viciousness. We're sick of you. And when sane, responsible, concerned people get sick of something we don't sit on our asses whining. We DO something about it. That's why you assholes are deep into the whining and lying stage, bobber, and the delusional denial. BECAUSE YOU SENSE WE ARE ON TO YOUR AND YOUR CRAP AND THE END IS NEAR FOR YOU TWITTERERS. You and your sick causes of destruction are winding down. Hope you enjoy your 'retirement.' Adn we are going to use your own **** to scrub you out of existence. WE, bobber, are a happy bunch of fun loving, caring for each other -- without discrimination, pack of joyful folks laughing you off the planet. Get used to it. Our cackles and harty laughter will be the last thing you folks hear as you fade away. It's over. We are already in mop up phase. Kane Well, Kane.. if this post.. and the many others you write, are indicitive of being "a happy bunch of fun loving, care for each ... pack of joyful folk" I'd suggest you're deceiving yourself... by hiding in your own gloom, your own anger, and your own dissappointments. We all have down times and have been victims of this or that, or have even been treated unfairly....but I think the majority of us count our blessing, pick up and move on instead of standing by and feeling oh so sorry for ourselves. bobb |
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bobb wrote: wrote in message oups.com... bobb wrote: Kane, Doug did a more than adquate job revisiting your stand in support of using a taser on six year olds using your own posts. Nonsense. All he did was try the usual crappola, "don't bother to think for yourself" appeal to emotions using the "poor helpless innocent child" line again. I find it beneath contempt to use a child trying, whether he know it or not, to commit suicide for his, that is Doug's sickminded ****. Doug's input consisted of, if one followed it, either getting someone injured, or the standing back and letting the boy likely kill himself. You people are FICKING SUCK. (no, not a typo) I should kept my reply in the singler... not plural. Whatever are you blathering? There is no sense in that statement given your words in this post. Are you inPUCKINGsane? Gosh, one of you is enough R R R ...obviously, given that most the time on issues you assholes try to peddle you bull**** with here I am outnumbered and still wipe your asses raw. but I am enough of a realist REALIST? Yah got's to be friggering kiddin' bobber. YOU, a slimy, nonsense filled pile of ****, a misogynistic batherer, a child hating, authority phobic creep, with delusions of self importance, YOU, talking about being a "realist?" You a lowlife scum sucking racist bigot, bobber. to know fools love company... Ah, you finally understand what I mean when I refer to the "twitsquadquad," which, by the way, seems to have reduced itself to the TwitteringTrio. so there must be more of you somewhere. What you'll find bobber, much to your dismay, or to your descent into further denial and spastic catatonic withdrawal, is that YES, THERE ARE MILLIONS OF ME OUTHERE, SOMEWHERE. And we are closing in on you uncivilized savages that have been holding back humanity and have nearly destroyed the planet a time or two. Your days, bobber, collectively, are Puggering, NUMBERED. bobb **** off with your sex abuser apologist crappola, your rapist minimizing ****, your anti society and authority bull, your hate and fear driven homophobia, your woman hating viciousness. We're sick of you. And when sane, responsible, concerned people get sick of something we don't sit on our asses whining. We DO something about it. That's why you assholes are deep into the whining and lying stage, bobber, and the delusional denial. BECAUSE YOU SENSE WE ARE ON TO YOUR AND YOUR CRAP AND THE END IS NEAR FOR YOU TWITTERERS. You and your sick causes of destruction are winding down. Hope you enjoy your 'retirement.' Adn we are going to use your own **** to scrub you out of existence. WE, bobber, are a happy bunch of fun loving, caring for each other -- without discrimination, pack of joyful folks laughing you off the planet. Get used to it. Our cackles and harty laughter will be the last thing you folks hear as you fade away. It's over. We are already in mop up phase. Kane Well, Kane.. if this post.. and the many others you write, are indicitive of being "a happy bunch of fun loving, care for each ... pack of joyful folk" I'd suggest you're deceiving yourself... by hiding in your own gloom, your own anger, and your own dissappointments. Gloom? Anger? Bobber, exposure of twits such as you, Doug, greegor, furneal are some of the most joyfilled moments I have. What is it about anger and disappointment with SOME of humanity you take as cutting me off from joy, or fun? We all have down times and have been victims of this or that, or have even been treated unfairly....but I think the majority of us count our blessing, pick up and move on instead of standing by and feeling oh so sorry for ourselves. You apparently haven't been reading greegor or Doug. Let alone Furneal. bobb Like you they are "victim" slingers. Everything is shrouded in the "victim" outcomes they claim have happened, are happening, and will happen, that amouth to, in the real world, about 20% or so of their claim..and your claims. Most of us bobber, do NOT feel overwhelmed by The System, and know damn well, should WE encounter it, how to deal effectively with it. It's you doomsayers that are loser, bobber, the pack of yah. You haven't faintest idea how to have fun kickin' butt on the system. You are whiner, and in fact, from Douggie to Furneal, you are nothing BUT a pack of whiners. Lying, conniving, sly, manipulative, self deluding whiners and naysayers. It's all just too much for you, isn't now, bobber? Go pick your nose. At least that you might have a chance of some success with. Kane |
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wrote in message oups.com... bobb wrote: wrote in message oups.com... bobb wrote: Kane, Doug did a more than adquate job revisiting your stand in support of using a taser on six year olds using your own posts. Nonsense. All he did was try the usual crappola, "don't bother to think for yourself" appeal to emotions using the "poor helpless innocent child" line again. I find it beneath contempt to use a child trying, whether he know it or not, to commit suicide for his, that is Doug's sickminded ****. Doug's input consisted of, if one followed it, either getting someone injured, or the standing back and letting the boy likely kill himself. You people are FICKING SUCK. (no, not a typo) I should kept my reply in the singler... not plural. Whatever are you blathering? There is no sense in that statement given your words in this post. Are you inPUCKINGsane? Gosh, one of you is enough R R R ...obviously, given that most the time on issues you assholes try to peddle you bull**** with here I am outnumbered and still wipe your asses raw. but I am enough of a realist REALIST? Yah got's to be friggering kiddin' bobber. YOU, a slimy, nonsense filled pile of ****, a misogynistic batherer, a child hating, authority phobic creep, with delusions of self importance, YOU, talking about being a "realist?" You a lowlife scum sucking racist bigot, bobber. to know fools love company... Ah, you finally understand what I mean when I refer to the "twitsquadquad," which, by the way, seems to have reduced itself to the TwitteringTrio. so there must be more of you somewhere. What you'll find bobber, much to your dismay, or to your descent into further denial and spastic catatonic withdrawal, is that YES, THERE ARE MILLIONS OF ME OUTHERE, SOMEWHERE. And we are closing in on you uncivilized savages that have been holding back humanity and have nearly destroyed the planet a time or two. Your days, bobber, collectively, are Puggering, NUMBERED. bobb **** off with your sex abuser apologist crappola, your rapist minimizing ****, your anti society and authority bull, your hate and fear driven homophobia, your woman hating viciousness. We're sick of you. And when sane, responsible, concerned people get sick of something we don't sit on our asses whining. We DO something about it. That's why you assholes are deep into the whining and lying stage, bobber, and the delusional denial. BECAUSE YOU SENSE WE ARE ON TO YOUR AND YOUR CRAP AND THE END IS NEAR FOR YOU TWITTERERS. You and your sick causes of destruction are winding down. Hope you enjoy your 'retirement.' Adn we are going to use your own **** to scrub you out of existence. WE, bobber, are a happy bunch of fun loving, caring for each other -- without discrimination, pack of joyful folks laughing you off the planet. Get used to it. Our cackles and harty laughter will be the last thing you folks hear as you fade away. It's over. We are already in mop up phase. Kane Well, Kane.. if this post.. and the many others you write, are indicitive of being "a happy bunch of fun loving, care for each ... pack of joyful folk" I'd suggest you're deceiving yourself... by hiding in your own gloom, your own anger, and your own dissappointments. Gloom? Anger? Bobber, exposure of twits such as you, Doug, greegor, furneal are some of the most joyfilled moments I have. What is it about anger and disappointment with SOME of humanity you take as cutting me off from joy, or fun? We all have down times and have been victims of this or that, or have even been treated unfairly....but I think the majority of us count our blessing, pick up and move on instead of standing by and feeling oh so sorry for ourselves. You apparently haven't been reading greegor or Doug. Let alone Furneal. bobb Like you they are "victim" slingers. Everything is shrouded in the "victim" outcomes they claim have happened, are happening, and will happen, that amouth to, in the real world, about 20% or so of their claim..and your claims. Most of us bobber, do NOT feel overwhelmed by The System, and know damn well, should WE encounter it, how to deal effectively with it. It's you doomsayers that are loser, bobber, the pack of yah. You haven't faintest idea how to have fun kickin' butt on the system. You are whiner, and in fact, from Douggie to Furneal, you are nothing BUT a pack of whiners. Lying, conniving, sly, manipulative, self deluding whiners and naysayers. I don't beleive any of those you mention, including myself, take any joy in 'kickin butt', Kane... even yours. We're not here to be aggressive... read their posts... and I doubt that anyone harbors the anger and hatred you often display. Neither are we blinded by individual self-interests. Often there is an exchange of ideas and thoughts... some of which we agree.. other we disagree... and it is those little grey area that create debates. Yeh, I often play devils advocate... sometime I express thoughts I wouldn't, or couldn't discuss with anyone else but I have no axe to grind. There are contributors who really do stir up the brain waves and others who.. well.. they're just fun. bobb It's all just too much for you, isn't now, bobber? Go pick your nose. At least that you might have a chance of some success with. Kane |
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If Tasers are OK for kids, when will parents be
allowed to use them? After all, parents might use a Taser on their kid in certain lifesaving emergencies! Running toward a busy street PssZat! Running toward a swimming pool PssZat! Holed up in their room holding a sharp object PssZat! Who will train and license parents in their use on kids? I suspect Kane would rather teach kids how to use them on parents! |
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