The Ty Pennington Story

Vernon wrote:
The only thing I thought was that girls are easy and the prettier,
the easier. By easy, I DON'T mean sexually, just easy to make a
follower or partner. A LOT of it was not my charm (I didn't think I
had any), but having answers in group studies and in lab work.

not part of my experience.

i went to a college prep for boys, run by the jesuits.

if we got out of line, there was 60 lines of shakespeare waiting to be
memorized on saturday morning.

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http://www.adderallxr.com/ty/ty_story/
No surprise there...I suspected he was ADHD since he was on
"Trading
Spaces"...the fact that he "came out" about it was brave, since
so
many who have it do not want other to know about it, fearing
that it
will harm their careers...a shame, really.

--
Buny

" Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy
merely to
be normal."
~ Albert Camus


Most who have the imaginary "it" don't know they have "it" and
just
get on with their lives knowing that no two people are alike and
REFUSE to take drugs to become an automon or programmed
personality
that fits some imaginary standard.

Yep, there are people who ACTUALLY like who they are. Then there
are
the druggies and alcoholics.
Perfect example...if I said I had ADHD, would you say the same
thing
about me as well?

--
Buny
If you said it, you would be wrong, absolutely convinced and
possibly
under some treatment, but wrong.
...and if I told you that my treatment involved such non-medicinal
things
as seen here? http://www.ldonline.org/article/8797?theme=print
Teachers have NO business to instruct children about ADHD.

What an incredibly stupid comment! First of all, the article is about
instructing children who HAVE ADHD, not instructing children ABOUT
ADHD.
(More evidence of your poor reading comprehension skills.) Second,
teachers
are very much in the business of instructing children about anything
and
everything, and certainly ADHD is a subject that children should know
more
about, since they are interacting daily with ADHD fellow students.
Third,
YOU have no business telling teachers what they should teach.
Pu-leeze. The only medical issues that teachers should be talking to
children about are those relating to the approved curriculum, not an
"amphetakids" commercial from the drug makers designed to turn every
kid into an addict.
Petey, can you read? The URL posted by Buny is an excellent summation of
teching strategies and skills for the instruction of all children.
Nowhere does that article address teaching kids ABOUT the disorder.

HOWEVER, considering that kids with the disorder are often ostracized,
bullied and tormented, teaching children about why others act
differently is something that a teacher should do. Oftentimes, school is
the one place in a child's life where they are meeting people who are
different from them.


Sure, teach them that "those" people are not normal. They are
"different".

One can be different and still be normal. Your semantics suck.

I was different.

What do you mean "was"?

Often the neat (jocks) people would try to make fun. BUT
since I was never told I was a "sicko" needing drugs, I survived.

That has never been determinative of anything. Bullying is perpetrated by
those who can do it because they have problems, not the victims.

Well, well just look at who is posting of *Bullying*.

Mark Probert the Internet Bully.

It wasn't
long before whenever I went into a classroom at the beginning of a
semester in H.S. , I would be immediately surrounded by girls and some
other "nerds". Of course they have just finished a study showing that
girls mentally mature earlier than boys. I had several things going FOR,
(note; FOR), me, all the way through college.
1. I was never quiet in class.
2. I fidgeted
3. I always became teacher's pet.
4. I seldom did my homework and teachers would berate me public
5. I always got the highest or near highest grades on exams.
6. The few times the jocks got physical, they found out that I worked in
a vegetable store carrying 100lb sacks of various foods for three hours 7
days a week.
7. The only time I got really special treatment from teachers was gym
teachers who kept me away from other students and eventually said I
should be excused from gym because I obviously didn't need it. Of course
that gave me opportunity to take other classes.
8. I always got asked to dances BY girls. (I could dance) (I learned
because I walked funny when I was four or five and my mother sent me to
dance school and continued until I was 11.)
9. I never drank or smoked until 21. Never drank on my own. I was
served wine and beer at home, regularly, and was told stories about
people who were dumb enough to get drunk.
9. I was kidded because there was always a crowd of girls around my
locker.

I was so abnormal, I really should have been on some meds. "GEEEE, He's
different" "Zap him" "WE can't have a child like that"

Vern, the "Chick magnet"

ace_berzerker wrote:

Vernon wrote:
The only thing I thought was that girls are easy and the prettier,
the easier. By easy, I DON'T mean sexually, just easy to make a
follower or partner. A LOT of it was not my charm (I didn't think I
had any), but having answers in group studies and in lab work.

not part of my experience.

i went to a college prep for boys, run by the jesuits.

if we got out of line, there was 60 lines of shakespeare waiting to be
memorized on saturday morning.

No problem for Vern. About the only thing he hasn't claimed is that he
wrote Shakespeare, but he has probably appeared in all the plays.
Probably taught Olivier and Brannagh how to act as well.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

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Vernon wrote:
The only thing I thought was that girls are easy and the prettier, the
easier. By easy, I DON'T mean sexually, just easy to make a follower or
partner. A LOT of it was not my charm (I didn't think I had any), but
having answers in group studies and in lab work.

not part of my experience.

i went to a college prep for boys, run by the jesuits.

if we got out of line, there was 60 lines of shakespeare waiting to be
memorized on saturday morning.

You don't mean to say that your punishment was actually productive? That
wouldn't work today.

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Vernon wrote:
They had what ALL considered evidence INCLUDING the recent history of
SADAM.

Wrong decision? Maybe. Contrived? They are smarter than that.

against my better judgment, i shouldn't cut in here, but....

had they left sadaam in power, with ahmady nejad of iran moving forward
with a nuclear program, who in their right mind would think sadaam
wouldn't do the same?

you think they wanted to have to deal with the iranians and sadaam gearing
up with nukes at the same time??

does anyone remember the iran - iraq war 1980-1989? now picture that with
both sides having nuclear weapons.

whatever cheney, rumsfeld et al had or didn't have as evidence, they
weren't going to wait. they were going to nip it in the bud.

In any case an agreement is in process between Iran and the rest of the Arab
world that is scared senseless.
We will be essentially cut off from oil from the Mideast.
There is NOTHING we can actually do about it except not depend on them.
We have the oil.
There is technology to make no CO or Ozone oil emitting engines also.
We will wake up when oil reaches about $10.00 a gallon at the pump or at
least $5.00.
THAT is where the BIG oil money of the U.S. is investing, like it or not.
The simple minded have all these stories of collusion with Arab, Iraq, etc
oil companies by American oil individuals. They are not stupid AND they are
assuming the worst will happen.
Investors (big ones) are seldom wrong about the big picture.

In article .com,
PeterB wrote:

David Wright wrote:
In article .com,
PeterB wrote:

JohnDoe wrote:

That's 2 PhD's at most. Where are the other ones you told us about
Vernon? You know, the ones that made you 'dominant scientist' somewhere,
helped you invent magnetic tape, got you in top position at NASA, helped
you overhaul the complete production procedures at Intel etc. And where
did you find the time to learn to speak German? Oh yeah, that's right,
you don't speak German.

I guess you have little choice but to attack those infinitely more
intelligent than you. I mean, what choice do you have?

Non-mathematicians like PeterB would be well advised to avoid
mentioning infinity. It just makes them sound dumb.

You're hardly the one to be making a comment about mathematics. Do you
still think that a murder in the hospital compromises data collected
for an iatrongenic study? hehe

Thanks for reinforcing my point about you. Whether or not something
should be included in a set of statistics is a matter of
interpretation, not a matter of mathematics. I already knew you were
a mathematical dimwit, but it's good of you to supply more evidence.

You probably think all infinities are the same size.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"George Bush is a gruesome boob." -- Bill Maher

"David Wright" wrote in message
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In article .com,
PeterB wrote:

David Wright wrote:
In article .com,
PeterB wrote:

JohnDoe wrote:

That's 2 PhD's at most. Where are the other ones you told us about
Vernon? You know, the ones that made you 'dominant scientist'
somewhere,
helped you invent magnetic tape, got you in top position at NASA,
helped
you overhaul the complete production procedures at Intel etc. And
where
did you find the time to learn to speak German? Oh yeah, that's
right,
you don't speak German.

I guess you have little choice but to attack those infinitely more
intelligent than you. I mean, what choice do you have?

Non-mathematicians like PeterB would be well advised to avoid
mentioning infinity. It just makes them sound dumb.

You're hardly the one to be making a comment about mathematics. Do you
still think that a murder in the hospital compromises data collected
for an iatrongenic study? hehe

Thanks for reinforcing my point about you. Whether or not something
should be included in a set of statistics is a matter of
interpretation, not a matter of mathematics. I already knew you were
a mathematical dimwit, but it's good of you to supply more evidence.

You probably think all infinities are the same size.


He'd better look out for that Taliban warlord, Aleph II!

;o) Rich

Vernon wrote:
"ace_berzerker" wrote in message
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Vernon wrote:

They had what ALL considered evidence INCLUDING the recent history of
SADAM.

Wrong decision? Maybe. Contrived? They are smarter than that.

against my better judgment, i shouldn't cut in here, but....

had they left sadaam in power, with ahmady nejad of iran moving forward
with a nuclear program, who in their right mind would think sadaam
wouldn't do the same?

you think they wanted to have to deal with the iranians and sadaam gearing
up with nukes at the same time??

does anyone remember the iran - iraq war 1980-1989? now picture that with
both sides having nuclear weapons.

whatever cheney, rumsfeld et al had or didn't have as evidence, they
weren't going to wait. they were going to nip it in the bud.


In any case an agreement is in process between Iran and the rest of the Arab
world that is scared senseless.
We will be essentially cut off from oil from the Mideast.
There is NOTHING we can actually do about it except not depend on them.
We have the oil.
There is technology to make no CO or Ozone oil emitting engines also.

No CO or Ozone oil emitting engines? Jeebus Vernon, you're outdoing
yourself yet again in demonstrating your education is totally imaginary.
Do keep it up though, you make me laugh every time. 'Ozone oil'.... You
can't make that up even if you wanted to.

We will wake up when oil reaches about $10.00 a gallon at the pump or at
least $5.00.
THAT is where the BIG oil money of the U.S. is investing, like it or not.
The simple minded have all these stories of collusion with Arab, Iraq, etc
oil companies by American oil individuals. They are not stupid AND they are
assuming the worst will happen.
Investors (big ones) are seldom wrong about the big picture.

David Wright wrote:
In article .com,
PeterB wrote:

David Wright wrote:
In article .com,
PeterB wrote:

JohnDoe wrote:

That's 2 PhD's at most. Where are the other ones you told us about
Vernon? You know, the ones that made you 'dominant scientist' somewhere,
helped you invent magnetic tape, got you in top position at NASA, helped
you overhaul the complete production procedures at Intel etc. And where
did you find the time to learn to speak German? Oh yeah, that's right,
you don't speak German.

I guess you have little choice but to attack those infinitely more
intelligent than you. I mean, what choice do you have?

Non-mathematicians like PeterB would be well advised to avoid
mentioning infinity. It just makes them sound dumb.

You're hardly the one to be making a comment about mathematics. Do you
still think that a murder in the hospital compromises data collected
for an iatrongenic study? hehe

Thanks for reinforcing my point about you. Whether or not something
should be included in a set of statistics is a matter of
interpretation, not a matter of mathematics. I already knew you were
a mathematical dimwit, but it's good of you to supply more evidence.

Funny that when you're making an argument, it isn't a matter of
interpretation, it's a reason to debunk the entire conclusion of a
study proving the dangers of pharmaceutical drugs.

You probably think all infinities are the same size.

How could the space between your ears possibly be equal to that in any
other vaccum?

PeterB

Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Vernon wrote:
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http://www.adderallxr.com/ty/ty_story/
The entire site is just about the most ignorant presentation I have
ever seen.
From you, Vernon, that means that it has something valid to say.
No, it means I have seen a lot of trash and a lot of cons. I recognize
them right away.

As someone who has actually had some training in psychology or
behavioral science,
Was that before or after youbecame a rocket scientist/high ranking
government official, bgtween your eighth and ninth careers?
Before AND during.


I can say that it is an excellent illustration of sick science and
a money making scam.
Sure it is...

UNBELIEVABLE that people get sucked into that trash.
Imagine that a person is sucked in because they want to adequately
function in society.
Oh, boy.

Drugs are the answer to everything.
Where did I say that? There is no question that proper medication can
help.
Some Meds CHANGE behavior. Those meds are classed as drugs. Alcohol is in
the same class.

It makes as much sense as a parent joining a certain Islam sect and
strapping dynamite to their kids and telling them they are expected to
take some dogs with them. THEY absolutely believe the nonsense. There
is no logic to change their mind.
That is an absurd analogy.
See above answer.

When in doubt use drugs or alcohol. You will have a lot of believers and
get a lot of sympathy.
Where did I say anything about alcohol? Medications are to be used when
appropriate.
To the people who decide they can't cope or are TAUGHT that they can't cope,
alcohol is one of the answers. Alcohol dependancy IS drug dependancy and
V.V.

The analagy is precisely right on.
There is no logic to change their mind.
Nope. The analogy sucks.
Like I said; There is no logic to change their mind.


Absolutely pitiful.

How can ANY intelligent person, even without training fall for that,
except to use as a failure excuse.
Of course it is / was on T.V. and there is little or no intellect
there.
I didn't mention the completely misleading and thus nefarious presentation
in their little "test".
The two giveaway traits in the "test" we
1. The completely ambiguous choices, never or seldom, sometimes, often, very
often. The same activity to different people would result in totally
different answers. Once a year to some would be never and others often.

2. Take this to your Doctor. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I showed the test to four different doctors in four different fields and
they couldn't believe the stupidity of the test and especially couldn't
believe that any respectable doctor would even bother to take it seriously.

ADHD: Poor little me, I can't cope.
I'm fed up with my kid and I'm going to drug it. Alcohol is frowned upon,
so I'll find a sympathetic (nefarious) Doctor and get a drug.
I don't know why they don't call Ritalin "Amphetakids," it would sell
even better.
When it is commonly prescribed as a generic...absurd.
"AmphetaKids" can be trademarked, you should mention it to your
sponsors.
Asshole.

Moron.
Dolt.
From you, thanks for the compliment.
My pleasure.
Yes, I consider the source and react appropriately.

Action beats reaction.

So, you are non-Newtonian.

I'd rather be a quark than an apple. Apples get eaten.