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3 week supply problems
My newest son, Harry, passed his 3 week mark on Wednesday. At his check
on Tuesday, he had gained a pound over his birth weight, and diapers are all looking good, so we're not too worried about him, at the moment. BUT: after clortrimazole and gentian violet, my boobs are still killing me, but in a manner which does not indicate Thrush. For the longest time I thought that Harry's fussiness and gassiness was due to Thrush, but no longer. I'm absolutely sure that my supply is low. We've been supplementing, due to an early scare with dehydration (Mom's boobs were just too sore to nurse through it), and tonight after hours of painful nursing and crying, Dad called it and gave him a bottle of formula - Wham-o, out like a light, totally contented. So I'm looking for advice on non-prescription ways to boost my supply. I'm pumping, I'm taking fenugreek, I'm eating oatmeal, and I found this tea, Organic Mother's Milk by Traditional Medicinals. The tea's ingredients a Organic bitter fennel fruit 560 mg, organic aniseed fruit 350 mg, organic coriander fruit 210 mg, organic fenugreek seed 35 mg, organic blessed thistle herb 35 mg. Proprietary blend: organic spearmint leaf, organic West Indian lemongrass leaf, organic lemon verbena leaf, organic marshmallow root. (http://traditionalmedicinals.com/?id=30&pid=14) Am I doing enough? Is there anything else I need to worry about, like, cut out caffeine, or something simple I'm overlooking? I'm NOT going to keep giving him formula, but I really can't deal with the crying for 4 hours, either. |
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Cheri Stryker skrev:
Am I doing enough? Is there anything else I need to worry about, like, cut out caffeine, or something simple I'm overlooking? I'm NOT going to keep giving him formula, but I really can't deal with the crying for 4 hours, either. Many children have a growth spurt at three weeks. Go to bed, bring magazines, drinks and snacks, and nurse-nurse-nurse. In a day or three your supply will be better and match his new demands. In some hours all the Americans will wake up and you'll get a lot of good advice. Until then you'll have to make do with me :-) Tine, Denmark. |
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"Cheri Stryker" wrote in message ... My newest son, Harry, passed his 3 week mark on Wednesday. At his check on Tuesday, he had gained a pound over his birth weight, and diapers are all looking good, so we're not too worried about him, at the moment. BUT: after clortrimazole and gentian violet, my boobs are still killing me, but in a manner which does not indicate Thrush. For the longest time I thought that Harry's fussiness and gassiness was due to Thrush, but no longer. I'm absolutely sure that my supply is low. We've been supplementing, due to an early scare with dehydration (Mom's boobs were just too sore to nurse through it), and tonight after hours of painful nursing and crying, Dad called it and gave him a bottle of formula - Wham-o, out like a light, totally contented. I don't think your supply is low, I think either it could be thrush (someone else would have to help, since thrush was never something I had) or it could be that you're engorged. I'd consider pulling out a pump, pumping a bit to relieve the soreness and seeing if Harry will latch on. If he does, check his latch. Jess |
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Cheri Stryker wrote:
My newest son, Harry, passed his 3 week mark on Wednesday. I'm absolutely sure that my supply is low. We've been supplementing, due to an early scare with dehydration (Mom's boobs were just too sore to nurse through it), and tonight after hours of painful nursing and crying, Dad called it and gave him a bottle of formula - Wham-o, out like a light, totally contented. I don't think your supply is low. Have you checked to make sure the latch is good. At this point, it is NORMAL to still feel pain when baby first latches on, but the pain should dull to an acceptable level after that. Make sure his mouth is covering the whole dark part of the nipple. Also, 3 weeks is a well-known growth spurt time. Just nurse for as long as you can stand it. With Pillbug, at 3 weeks, I was nursing 45 minutes per hour, every hour. With Rocky, he marathon- nursed, so he nursed every 2 hours during the day, but from about 5pm to 9pm, he would be latched on almost continuously. It's all normal and it doesn't last forever. -- Anita -- |
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Irrational Number wrote: Cheri Stryker wrote: My newest son, Harry, passed his 3 week mark on Wednesday. I'm absolutely sure that my supply is low. We've been supplementing, due to an early scare with dehydration (Mom's boobs were just too sore to nurse through it), and tonight after hours of painful nursing and crying, Dad called it and gave him a bottle of formula - Wham-o, out like a light, totally contented. I don't think your supply is low. Have you checked to make sure the latch is good. At this point, it is NORMAL to still feel pain when baby first latches on, but the pain should dull to an acceptable level after that. Make sure his mouth is covering the whole dark part of the nipple. This is all good advice. The other thought I had, was if he is regularly getting bottles, perhaps this is bottle preference. Bottles can cause a baby to start getting sloppy with their latch, and can make them not want to work at the breast. Really, the only solution is to cut out the bottles, deal with the fussiness until he realizes that the easy way out is not coming. If you are regularly supplementing, you may want to cut back gradually so that your supply gets up. Also, 3 weeks is a well-known growth spurt time. Just nurse for as long as you can stand it. Yup. Although if you are having painful nursing, be diligent about the latch. Also, thrush can be resistant to many treatments. Is your nipple blanched, mishapen or compressed after a feed? That could indicate a latch problem. Hang in there, it gets better! Mary W. |
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Workingmom wrote:
In some hours all the Americans will wake up and you'll get a lot of good advice. Until then you'll have to make do with me :-) [smile] Quite good company, indeed. |
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Cheri Stryker wrote:
Am I doing enough? Is there anything else I need to worry about, like, cut out caffeine, or something simple I'm overlooking? I'm NOT going to keep giving him formula, but I really can't deal with the crying for 4 hours, either. Thanks, everyone, for the consensus - possible thrush, probable bad latch (I agree there, since sometimes it hurts and sometimes it doesn't), and probable growth spurt. We'll keep going. Any suggestions on how to improve a bad latch? Just keep pulling at his lips to make them "fish out"? |
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Cheri Stryker wrote:
Any suggestions on how to improve a bad latch? Just keep pulling at his lips to make them "fish out"? Yep. It's no different from walking or not touching the TV controls... repetition... over and over and over again. With Pillbug, I would unlatch him, then try to latch him on again. After awhile, it becomes automatic. But, you still have to keep watching the latch. Make sure the lips look like the bell of a trumpet. -- Anita -- |
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Irrational Number wrote:
Cheri Stryker wrote: Any suggestions on how to improve a bad latch? Just keep pulling at his lips to make them "fish out"? Yep. It's no different from walking or not touching the TV controls... repetition... over and over and over again. With Pillbug, I would unlatch him, then try to latch him on again. After awhile, it becomes automatic. But, you still have to keep watching the latch. Make sure the lips look like the bell of a trumpet. -- Anita -- And I suppose it'll help him stay awake, too. [sigh] Cheri Stryker |
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"Cheri Stryker" wrote in message ... Cheri Stryker wrote: Any suggestions on how to improve a bad latch? Just keep pulling at his lips to make them "fish out"? Repeat, repeat, repeat. When he first goes to latch, look at him and say "Ahhhhhh" with your mouth open REALLY wide. Most times he will imitate you, even at this young age. Alaways wait until his mouth is open very very wide before you start to nurse. When you do go to latch him on, aim for the roof of his mouth, that will help insure that you have a nice asymmetrical latch. Should help with the pain also. If you feel him start to slip, or you notice that the latch has changed, even slightly, unlatch him and start all over again. Carrie & Jazz |
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