BU$TED?

In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article . net, "Karen
R." wrote:

Mark Probert wrote the following on 7/28/2006 3:05 PM:
Jason Johnson wrote:

Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat?

For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.

Mark -- Go. To. Your. Room.

Karen R., still choking with laughter

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Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL

When one is seriously dehydrated, one often drinks what is available.

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Mark,
That is true. Some people have saved their lives by drinking their own
urine. I prefer bottled water.
Jason
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Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:

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Thanks but someone else already told me about the website
that discussed Dihydrogen monoxide--it's rainwater.
I visited the site.
It the type of humor that children in grade school or
high school science class would really enjoy.
Does Mark think on that same level? I hope not.

Jason, you have got to lighten up a bit. From reading all of your posts,
you seem a tad obsessed with environmental "poisons". While there are
valid concerns, it is not an "all or nothing" situation.

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Mark,
An even more important issue is that Israel is under attack. Most of the
Muslims in the Middle East want to bring about the destruction of Israel.

Partially correct. After the Jews are gone, the list of "nexts" includes
Christians, et al.

That's far more important than most of the issues discussed in posts. I
did not become offended by your mention of dihydorogen monoxide. I know
that you are an expert in diverting attention away from the central issue.

I have not done that with you, except a bit for the H20 bit.

You discount studies that show that mercury and aluminum cause at least
some children to develop severe reactions. It's also possible that mercury
may cause autism. Don't discount any of the studies.

Why should I not discount the studies if they are poorly designed?
Poorly done? Use bad science? Why not?

When I see a "study" conducted by someone (a professor of chemistry no
less) who thinks that the percentage by molecular weight of one atom in
a molecule has meaning, why should I not consider that what that person
has to say to be of questionable merit, at the very least?

Why should I accept a study done by a person who cannot accurately state
his and his son's credentials when submitting a paper? Who also
misstates just about every significant medical point when he claims he
is doing a study? When his IRB is comprised of people he has personal
and financial ties?

Why should I accept a study by someone who was being paid by attorneys
involved in litigation, chose a significant percentage of the subjects
from the clients of those attorneys, and then neglected to tell his
colleagues?

There are MANY reasons not to accept studies, and I address them all.

In article , Mark Probert
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Jason Johnson wrote:
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Jason Johnson wrote:
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Jason Johnson wrote:
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Jason Johnson wrote:
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Jason Johnson wrote:
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Jason Johnson wrote:
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JohnDoe
wrote:

Peter Bowditch wrote:

"HCN" wrote:


"JohnDoe" wrote in message
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Jason Johnson wrote:


.... And if they ever did, did aluminum cause it?

Dear Jason, the word 'metal' does not equal 'so
poisonous it
should be
wholly removed from the environment'. While you may
not be an
anti-vac
liar, you certainly seem to suffer from a degree of
delusion
with regard
to the toxicity of metals.


...

Hmmm... would that mean (according to those that equate
metal to
"bad") that
the following metals should never be ingested by humans:

calcium ...

http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
iron ...

http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
sodium ...

http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
potassium ...

http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html



I'm waiting for the day when the anti-psychiatry loons
criticise
medications containing lithium because of the risk of
heavy metal
poisoning.

Damn, why didn't I think of that!! BTW, are you sure they
haven't done
that yet? And if they didn't and they start doing it, at
least we'll
have clue who started it all. Lol.

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JohnDoe,
Lithium is used in the treatment of manic-depressive illness.
However, as
you may know, "...lithium toxicity, including severe neutoxic
effects, can
occur with normal serum lithium levels...."

Source: "Labortory Test Handbook" (2nd Edition) by David S.
Jabobs, M.D.
and others.

As far as I know, mercury is NOT used to treat any
illnesses so
there is a
majory difference between lithium and mercury.

There are homeopathic medicines prepared with mercury.

Look it up.

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JohnDoe,
In these homeopathic medicines, is mercury the ONLY item or is
it mixed
with other items?

It is mixed with water. Lots of water.

As far as lithium is concerned, it does NOT need to be
mixed with any items.
Jason
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Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing
mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat?

For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.

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Mark,
Thanks. It must be a very rare disorder since it is not listed in my
"Laboratory Test Handbook with Disease Index".

It is rather common in the northern hemisphere during this time of the
year. You must remember that it is a homeopathic medicine.

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Mark,
It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a
medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word
that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at
least one disorder.

Like I said, it is homeopathic. The chances of you finding a molecule of
the mercury salt is nearly nil.

Oh, and dihydrogen monoxide is commonly called H2O. Water cures thirst.

I also found out that health food stores actually sell
products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine):
examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products:
Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once
a day.
Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day.
Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes.

Silver is a topical antibacterial.

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Mark,
Let's get serious--Is mercury used to treat any disorders or diseases?

Since I do not know the chemical composition of every medical treatment
under the sun, it is an impossible question for me to answer.

As for serious, chill out...try some solid dihydrogen monoxide.

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No thanks--I'll drink bottled water. As far as I know, mercury (unless it
is combined with medicine) is not used to treat any disease or disorder.
At least one form of lithium is used to treat some mental illnesses. It
can become toxic
if not used properly. Lithium is listed as a poison.
Jason
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Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article . net, "Karen
R." wrote:

Mark Probert wrote the following on 7/28/2006 3:05 PM:
Jason Johnson wrote:

Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat?

For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.

Mark -- Go. To. Your. Room.

Karen R., still choking with laughter

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL

When one is seriously dehydrated, one often drinks what is available.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
That is true. Some people have saved their lives by drinking their own
urine. I prefer bottled water.

I was walking down the street one day and came upon a fellow who was
taking a sample of our ground water which is then filtered, etc. for
drinking.

It was battleship gray.

I have used bottled water since.

When I made the comment about drinking what was available, I was brought
back to June 1968 when I arrived in Vietnam. While waiting in line, I
got thirsty and went over to a tank trailer with a few cups and the
words "Potable Water". One mouthful and I learned that potable is not a
synonym of tastes good.

However, a few weeks later, when coming in from the boonies, I went to
the potable water trailer and learned that it is all a matter of
perspective.

In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article . net, "Karen
R." wrote:

Mark Probert wrote the following on 7/28/2006 3:05 PM:
Jason Johnson wrote:

Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing
mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat?

For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.

Mark -- Go. To. Your. Room.

Karen R., still choking with laughter

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL

When one is seriously dehydrated, one often drinks what is available.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
That is true. Some people have saved their lives by drinking their own
urine. I prefer bottled water.

I was walking down the street one day and came upon a fellow who was
taking a sample of our ground water which is then filtered, etc. for
drinking.

It was battleship gray.

I have used bottled water since.

When I made the comment about drinking what was available, I was brought
back to June 1968 when I arrived in Vietnam. While waiting in line, I
got thirsty and went over to a tank trailer with a few cups and the
words "Potable Water". One mouthful and I learned that potable is not a
synonym of tastes good.

However, a few weeks later, when coming in from the boonies, I went to
the potable water trailer and learned that it is all a matter of
perspective.

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Mark,
I used to enjoy drinking water from a natural spring that was located on
our farm. However, one day, while I was drinking water from the spring--I
noticed a dead rat laying in the water. I never again drank any water from
that spring.
Bottled water is always the best option. I understand that water in some
of the areas of Vietnam still contains Agent Orange--or whatever it was
called.
Jason
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HCN wrote:
"Jason Johnson" wrote in message
...
... Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hint: Homeopathic remedies are diluted to the point where there is not one
mercury atom in the solution, as explained he
http://badhomeopath.com/?p=17

The dilution is often something like 1 to
10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ...

See http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/homeopathy.htm and
http://www.skepdic.com/homeo.html and

I also found the previous exchange very funny! Now I have to see if my
garden needs any dihydrogen monoxide... see http://www.dhmo.org/ .
Hint: Look at the following reference.

http://www.umassmag.com/Spring_2004/...oison_613.html

Capsicum, the active ingredient that makes peppers hot seems to have a
strong hormetic property.

see http://ec.europa.eu/food/fs/sc/scf/out120_en.pdf

Cordially,

RL

In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Thanks but someone else already told me about the website
that discussed Dihydrogen monoxide--it's rainwater.
I visited the site.
It the type of humor that children in grade school or
high school science class would really enjoy.
Does Mark think on that same level? I hope not.

Jason, you have got to lighten up a bit. From reading all of your posts,
you seem a tad obsessed with environmental "poisons". While there are
valid concerns, it is not an "all or nothing" situation.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
An even more important issue is that Israel is under attack. Most of the
Muslims in the Middle East want to bring about the destruction of Israel.

Partially correct. After the Jews are gone, the list of "nexts" includes
Christians, et al.

That's far more important than most of the issues discussed in posts. I
did not become offended by your mention of dihydorogen monoxide. I know
that you are an expert in diverting attention away from the central issue.

I have not done that with you, except a bit for the H20 bit.

You discount studies that show that mercury and aluminum cause at least
some children to develop severe reactions. It's also possible that mercury
may cause autism. Don't discount any of the studies.

Why should I not discount the studies if they are poorly designed?
Poorly done? Use bad science? Why not?

When I see a "study" conducted by someone (a professor of chemistry no
less) who thinks that the percentage by molecular weight of one atom in
a molecule has meaning, why should I not consider that what that person
has to say to be of questionable merit, at the very least?

Why should I accept a study done by a person who cannot accurately state
his and his son's credentials when submitting a paper? Who also
misstates just about every significant medical point when he claims he
is doing a study? When his IRB is comprised of people he has personal
and financial ties?

Why should I accept a study by someone who was being paid by attorneys
involved in litigation, chose a significant percentage of the subjects
from the clients of those attorneys, and then neglected to tell his
colleagues?

There are MANY reasons not to accept studies, and I address them all.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
Good points but do you do the same thing in regard to studies that support
your point of view. For example, if a drug company that makes vaccines
containing mercury conducts a study that proves that mercury does NOT
cause autism--why do you believe such a study? Why would you not challenge
the results since the drug company probably took efforts to make sure the
results came out in their favor.

The best example is a drug called Baycol (a statin). At least 31 deaths
were later linked to Baycol. However, the studies that were done by the
company that made Baycol showed that it was a safe drug. The company that
made Baycol made sure that those studies came out in their favor. It's
common for drug companies to make sure that research studies come out in
their favor. Billions of dollars are on the line related to certain
medications and vaccines. I do not blame them for making sure study
results come out in their favor.

My point is that you would be more likely to believe a study that was
conducted by a drug company as long as it supports your point of view.

Do you see my point?
Jason
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In article .com,
"Raving Loonie" wrote:

HCN wrote:
"Jason Johnson" wrote in message
...
... Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hint: Homeopathic remedies are diluted to the point where there is not one
mercury atom in the solution, as explained he
http://badhomeopath.com/?p=17

The dilution is often something like 1 to
10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ...

See http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/homeopathy.htm and
http://www.skepdic.com/homeo.html and

I also found the previous exchange very funny! Now I have to see if my
garden needs any dihydrogen monoxide... see http://www.dhmo.org/ .
Hint: Look at the following reference.

http://www.umassmag.com/Spring_2004/...oison_613.html

Capsicum, the active ingredient that makes peppers hot seems to have a
strong hormetic property.

see http://ec.europa.eu/food/fs/sc/scf/out120_en.pdf

Cordially,

RL

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RL,
You are correct--some poisons are useful--especially in the the garden.
For example, poisons are used to kill bugs. You appear to know more about
this subject than we know.
Jason
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"Jason Johnson" wrote in message
...
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article . net,
"Karen
R." wrote:

Mark Probert wrote the following on 7/28/2006 3:05 PM:
Jason Johnson wrote:

Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing
mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat?

For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.

Mark -- Go. To. Your. Room.

Karen R., still choking with laughter

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL

When one is seriously dehydrated, one often drinks what is available.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
That is true. Some people have saved their lives by drinking their own
urine. I prefer bottled water.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Urine must be sterilized. Bourbon probably would do.

Vernon wrote:

"Jason Johnson" wrote in message
...

In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:

In article . net,
"Karen
R." wrote:

Mark Probert wrote the following on 7/28/2006 3:05 PM:
Jason Johnson wrote:

Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing
mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat?

For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.

Mark -- Go. To. Your. Room.

Karen R., still choking with laughter

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL

When one is seriously dehydrated, one often drinks what is available.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
That is true. Some people have saved their lives by drinking their own
urine. I prefer bottled water.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Urine must be sterilized. Bourbon probably would do.


Is the boubon supposed to be added to the urine before or after it
leaves the body?

Nancy
Unique, like everyone else