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  #191  
Old July 30th 06, 12:39 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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LOL!

*Anecdotes can be made up. They teach how in the P.T. Barnum School Of
Internet Marketing, Scamming and MLMing.*

*Anecdotes are Bull****...*

02-06-06

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

Anecdotes are bull**** and prove nothing.

"Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" wrote in
message ups.com...

Jason Johnson wrote:
MAJOR snippage for readability
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
Let's get serious--Is mercury used to treat any disorders or diseases?
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



I'm not Mark, but here's one result of a quick google search:

"An Example
I remember one of my first experiences in prescribing a homeopathic
medicine. A woman had come to me for the treatment of eczema,
characterized by weeping lesions on her legs. In conventional medical
thinking, she was clearly a candidate for high dose oral steroids.
However, I chose to give her two doses of a homeopathic medicine made
from mercury. Here is where homeopathy drastically differs from
allopathic (conventional Western) medicine. I chose mercury as a
treatment not because she had eczema, but because of key information
she gave me about herself. She had recurrent dreams in which water
somehow posed a threat to her. By researching this symptom, I
discovered that mercury is one of the homeopathic remedies that has, in
provings, been associated with threatening water dreams. I also learned
that it would treat her eczema as well."

http://coolnurse.healthology.com/pri...t_homeop athy

Kitten



  #192  
Old July 30th 06, 01:29 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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TDN/"HCN" [who thinks the vested interest of the CDC and FDA is A OK] once
again derails the subject, while shilling for one of the *gang's*...:LIARS.

AND...........

Once-AGAIN posts S P A M!!

"Jason Johnson" wrote in message
...
In article , "HCN"
wrote:

"Jason Johnson" wrote in message
...
... Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Hint: Homeopathic remedies are diluted to the point where there is not
one
mercury atom in the solution, as explained he
http://badhomeopath.com/?p=17

The dilution is often something like 1 to
10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ...

See http://www.ratbags.comLIES and
http://www.skepdic.com/ and

I also found the previous exchange very funny! Now I have to see if my
garden needs any dihydrogen monoxide... see http://www.dhmo.org/ .

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Don't forget to add the mercury---LOL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Your level of comprehension is absolutely homeopathic!



  #193  
Old July 30th 06, 01:31 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

[note how Mark OVERLOOKS the SPAM--HCN/TDN posted].

HCN wrote:
"Jason Johnson" wrote in message
...
In article , "HCN"
wrote:

"Jason Johnson" wrote in message
...
... Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hint: Homeopathic remedies are diluted to the point where there is not
one
mercury atom in the solution, as explained he
http://badhomeopath.com/?p=17

The dilution is often something like 1 to
10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ...

See http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/homeopathy.htm and
http://www.skepdic.com/homeo.html and

I also found the previous exchange very funny! Now I have to see if my
garden needs any dihydrogen monoxide... see http://www.dhmo.org/ .

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Don't forget to add the mercury---LOL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Your level of comprehension is absolutely homeopathic!


Email me for the address to send my new keyboard.




  #194  
Old July 30th 06, 01:33 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Jason Johnson wrote:
In article . net, "Karen
R." wrote:

Mark Probert wrote the following on 7/28/2006 3:05 PM:
Jason Johnson wrote:
Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing

mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat? For one thing,

Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.
Mark -- Go. To. Your. Room.
Karen R., still choking with laughter

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL


When one is seriously dehydrated, one often drinks what is available.


The one posting is seriously dehydrated. LOL!


  #195  
Old July 30th 06, 01:48 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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Here he goes--AGAIN!

*Anecdotes can be made up. They teach how in the P.T. Barnum School Of
Internet Marketing, Scamming and MLMing.*

*Anecdotes are Bull****...*

02-06-06

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

Anecdotes are bull**** and prove nothing.

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article . net,

"Karen
R." wrote:
Mark Probert wrote the following on 7/28/2006 3:05 PM:
Jason Johnson wrote:
Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing

mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat? For one thing,

Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.
Mark -- Go. To. Your. Room.
Karen R., still choking with laughter
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL

When one is seriously dehydrated, one often drinks what is available.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
That is true. Some people have saved their lives by drinking their own
urine. I prefer bottled water.


I was walking down the street one day and came upon a fellow who was
taking a sample of our ground water which is then filtered, etc. for
drinking.

It was battleship gray.

I have used bottled water since.

When I made the comment about drinking what was available, I was brought
back to June 1968 when I arrived in Vietnam. While waiting in line, I got
thirsty and went over to a tank trailer with a few cups and the words
"Potable Water". One mouthful and I learned that potable is not a synonym
of tastes good.

However, a few weeks later, when coming in from the boonies, I went to the
potable water trailer and learned that it is all a matter of perspective.



  #196  
Old July 30th 06, 02:24 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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"Jason Johnson" wrote in message
...
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article . net,

"Karen
R." wrote:

Mark Probert wrote the following on 7/28/2006 3:05 PM:
Jason Johnson wrote:

Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing

mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat?

For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.

Mark -- Go. To. Your. Room.

Karen R., still choking with laughter

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL


When one is seriously dehydrated, one often drinks what is available.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
That is true. Some people have saved their lives by drinking their own
urine. I prefer bottled water.


I was walking down the street one day and came upon a fellow who was
taking a sample of our ground water which is then filtered, etc. for
drinking.

It was battleship gray.

I have used bottled water since.

When I made the comment about drinking what was available, I was brought
back to June 1968 when I arrived in Vietnam. While waiting in line, I
got thirsty and went over to a tank trailer with a few cups and the
words "Potable Water". One mouthful and I learned that potable is not a
synonym of tastes good.

However, a few weeks later, when coming in from the boonies, I went to
the potable water trailer and learned that it is all a matter of
perspective.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
I used to enjoy drinking water from a natural spring that was located on
our farm. However, one day, while I was drinking water from the spring--I
noticed a dead rat laying in the water. I never again drank any water from
that spring.
Bottled water is always the best option. I understand that water in some
of the areas of Vietnam still contains Agent Orange--or whatever it was
called.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jason,

Please do some reach on bottled water.

http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/st...terbottle.html


  #197  
Old July 30th 06, 02:30 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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"Jason Johnson" wrote in message
...
In article m, "Jan
Drew" wrote:

Jason. Mark is baiting you. To divert from the subject.
A word to the wise. Don't fall for his crap.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jan,
Thanks but someone else already told me about the website
that discussed Dihydrogen monoxide--it's rainwater.
I visited the site.
It the type of humor that children in grade school or
high school science class would really enjoy.
Does Mark think on that same level? I hope not.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jason,
I see today you have already sized Mark up.
To s T, in fact.

Ilena,
Welcome back. I enjoy reading your posts. Mark is also an expert
in diverting attention from the central issue in posts. For example,
if someone posts information about a study that shows that
MMR causes autism, he will attack the organization that conducted
the study instead of discussing the actual study. It usually works
since his buddies take his side in regard to attacking the organization
that conducted the study instead of discussing the actual study.
It reminded me of how a defense attorney representing a murderer
trys to get the members of the jury to believe that someone else
must have done the murder. This is a method of diverting attention
away from his client. He also trys to divert attention by attacking
the person that made the post related to the study. He is making use
of his legal training related to responding to posts. If anyone does
not believe me, read his future posts.
Jason








"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:
Jason Johnson wrote:
In article ,
JohnDoe
wrote:
Peter Bowditch wrote:
"HCN" wrote:
"JohnDoe" wrote in
message l...

Jason Johnson wrote:


.... And if they ever did, did aluminum cause it?

Dear Jason, the word 'metal' does not equal 'so poisonous it
should be wholly removed from the environment'. While you may
not be an
anti-vac liar, you certainly seem to suffer from a degree of
delusion
with regard to the toxicity of metals.


...

Hmmm... would that mean (according to those that equate metal
to
"bad") that the following metals should never be ingested by
humans:

calcium ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
iron ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
sodium ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
potassium ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html


I'm waiting for the day when the
anti-psychiatry
loons criticise
medications containing lithium because of the risk of heavy
metal
poisoning.
Damn, why didn't I think of that!! BTW, are you sure they
haven't done that yet? And if they didn't and they start doing
it,
at least we'll have clue who started it all. Lol.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
JohnDoe,
Lithium is used in the treatment of manic-depressive illness.
However, as
you may know, "...lithium toxicity, including severe neutoxic
effects, can
occur with normal serum lithium levels...."
Source: "Labortory Test Handbook" (2nd Edition) by David S.
Jabobs, M.D.
and others. As far as I know, mercury is NOT used to
treat any illnesses so there is a
majory difference between lithium and mercury. There are
homeopathic medicines prepared with mercury.
Look it up.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
JohnDoe,
In these homeopathic medicines, is mercury the ONLY item or is it
mixed
with other items? It is mixed with water. Lots of water.
As far as lithium is concerned, it does NOT need to be
mixed with any items. Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing
mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat?


For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



  #198  
Old July 30th 06, 02:37 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Jason Johnson
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In article , "Jan Drew"
wrote:

"Jason Johnson" wrote in message
...
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article . net,

"Karen
R." wrote:

Mark Probert wrote the following on 7/28/2006 3:05 PM:
Jason Johnson wrote:

Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing

mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat?

For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.

Mark -- Go. To. Your. Room.

Karen R., still choking with laughter

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL


When one is seriously dehydrated, one often drinks what is available.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
That is true. Some people have saved their lives by drinking their own
urine. I prefer bottled water.


I was walking down the street one day and came upon a fellow who was
taking a sample of our ground water which is then filtered, etc. for
drinking.

It was battleship gray.

I have used bottled water since.

When I made the comment about drinking what was available, I was brought
back to June 1968 when I arrived in Vietnam. While waiting in line, I
got thirsty and went over to a tank trailer with a few cups and the
words "Potable Water". One mouthful and I learned that potable is not a
synonym of tastes good.

However, a few weeks later, when coming in from the boonies, I went to
the potable water trailer and learned that it is all a matter of
perspective.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
I used to enjoy drinking water from a natural spring that was located on
our farm. However, one day, while I was drinking water from the spring--I
noticed a dead rat laying in the water. I never again drank any water from
that spring.
Bottled water is always the best option. I understand that water in some
of the areas of Vietnam still contains Agent Orange--or whatever it was
called.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jason,

Please do some reach on bottled water.

http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/st...terbottle.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jan,
Thanks--I'll visit the site.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  #199  
Old July 30th 06, 03:03 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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Default BUSTED!! Mark Probert-----AGAIN!


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Jason Johnson wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[note how Mark alted your post. This is because of his fake UDP].


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_Death_Penalty


Passive: with a passive UDP, messages that fall under the UDP will
simply be ignored and will not spread.


Thanks but someone else already told me about the website
that discussed Dihydrogen monoxide--it's rainwater. I visited the site.
It the type of humor that children in grade school or high school science
class would really enjoy. Does Mark think on that same level? I hope not.


Jason, you have got to lighten up a bit. From reading all of your posts,
you seem a tad obsessed with environmental "poisons". While there are
valid concerns, it is not an "all or nothing" situation.


Actually, it was you, JohnDoe and HCN who started diverting to the subject
of *toxins, *enivironmental poisons*, etc.,etc.

As usual displaying of what the *GANG* does.

Now--YOU say it was Jason.

YOU are BUSTED. AGAIN.


Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:
Jason Johnson wrote:
In article ,

JohnDoe
wrote:
Peter Bowditch wrote:
"HCN" wrote:
"JohnDoe" wrote in
message l...

Jason Johnson wrote:


.... And if they ever did, did aluminum cause it?

Dear Jason, the word 'metal' does not equal 'so poisonous

it
should be wholly removed from the environment'. While you

may not be an
anti-vac liar, you certainly seem to suffer from a degree of
delusion
with regard to the toxicity of metals.


...

Hmmm... would that mean (according to those that equate

metal to
"bad") that the following metals should never be ingested

by humans:

calcium ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
iron ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
sodium ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
potassium ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html

I'm waiting for the day when the

anti-psychiatry loons criticise
medications containing lithium because of the risk of heavy
metal
poisoning.
Damn, why didn't I think of that!! BTW, are you sure

they haven't done that yet? And if they didn't and they start
doing it, at least we'll have clue who started it all. Lol.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
JohnDoe,
Lithium is used in the treatment of manic-depressive illness.
However, as
you may know, "...lithium toxicity, including severe neutoxic
effects, can
occur with normal serum lithium levels...."
Source: "Labortory Test Handbook" (2nd Edition) by David

S. Jabobs, M.D.
and others. As far as I know, mercury is NOT used to
treat any illnesses so there is a
majory difference between lithium and mercury. There are
homeopathic medicines prepared with mercury.
Look it up.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
JohnDoe,
In these homeopathic medicines, is mercury the ONLY item or is it
mixed
with other items? It is mixed with water. Lots of water.
As far as lithium is concerned, it does NOT need to be
mixed with any items. Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing

mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat?

For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



  #200  
Old July 30th 06, 03:25 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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Default BUSTED--Mark Probert with his own words


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thanks but someone else already told me about the website
that discussed Dihydrogen monoxide--it's rainwater. I visited the

site. It the type of humor that children in grade school or high
school science class would really enjoy. Does Mark think on that same
level? I hope not.
Jason, you have got to lighten up a bit. From reading all of your posts,
you seem a tad obsessed with environmental "poisons". While there are
valid concerns, it is not an "all or nothing" situation.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
An even more important issue is that Israel is under attack. Most of the
Muslims in the Middle East want to bring about the destruction of Israel.


Partially correct. After the Jews are gone, the list of "nexts" includes
Christians, et al.

That's far more important than most of the issues discussed in posts. I
did not become offended by your mention of dihydorogen monoxide. I know
that you are an expert in diverting attention away from the central
issue.


I have not done that with you, except a bit for the H20 bit.


Wrong.

[note the *with you*].

Mark has in fact diverted with his usual trashing.

With *you*--he wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....fc1f46a0c6a492

Different toxins act differently. Spend some
time learning the various types of "snake venom" and how they work.



You discount studies that show that mercury and aluminum cause at least
some children to develop severe reactions. It's also possible that
mercury
may cause autism. Don't discount any of the studies.


Why should I not discount the studies if they are poorly designed? Poorly
done? Use bad science? Why not?

When I see a "study" conducted by someone (a professor of chemistry no
less) who thinks that the percentage by molecular weight of one atom in a
molecule has meaning, why should I not consider that what that person has
to say to be of questionable merit, at the very least?


Poor Mark. Just keeps proving me right.

Why should I accept a study done by a person who cannot accurately state
his and his son's credentials when submitting a paper? Who also misstates
just about every significant medical point when he claims he is doing a
study? When his IRB is comprised of people he has personal and financial
ties?


Diverting with personal trashing.

Why should I accept a study by someone who was being paid by attorneys
involved in litigation, chose a significant percentage of the subjects
from the clients of those attorneys, and then neglected to tell his
colleagues?


Again.

There are MANY reasons not to accept studies, and I address them all.


With personal trashing.

You are sooooo easy to see through.

AND....

A liar.


 




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