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  #211  
Old July 31st 06, 12:32 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
cathyb
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Jan Drew wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....db5f3991fe0575

Jul 30 2006 12:57 pm

BTW, just for your information, if wish to have further discussion with
me, I suggest that you email me.


mark{dot}probert{at}gmail{dot}com


No email, no further responses.
==



My, my that was fast. Mark lasted 10 whole minutes.

Poor, pathetic, Disbarred attorney.

22 counts of unprofessional conduct.

Has an INSANE need to argue.

Ever since he was disbarred.


Golly. Jan resorts to irrelevancy, lies and bitchery less than 20 min
after posting:

"His (sic) always has something nice to say with his every post.
Even to those who pull the usual diversions.

WE *ALL* should take a lesson from him.

I commend you, Jason.

Godspeed.

Jan"

Not a quick learner, are you Jan? Pfui.










"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:
Jason Johnson wrote:
In article . net,
"Karen
R." wrote:
Mark Probert wrote the following on 7/28/2006 3:05 PM:
Jason Johnson wrote:
Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine
containing
mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat? For
one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.
Mark -- Go. To. Your. Room.
Karen R., still choking with laughter
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL
When one is seriously dehydrated, one often drinks what is
available.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mark,
That is true. Some people have saved their lives by drinking their own
urine. I prefer bottled water.
I was walking down the street one day and came upon a fellow who was
taking a sample of our ground water which is then filtered, etc. for
drinking.
It was battleship gray.
I have used bottled water since.
When I made the comment about drinking what was available, I was brought
back to June 1968 when I arrived in Vietnam. While waiting in line, I got
thirsty and went over to a tank trailer with a few cups and the words
"Potable Water". One mouthful and I learned that potable is not a synonym
of tastes good.
However, a few weeks later, when coming in from the boonies, I went to
the potable water trailer and learned that it is all a matter of
perspective.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
I used to enjoy drinking water from a natural spring that was located on
our farm. However, one day, while I was drinking water from the spring--I
noticed a dead rat laying in the water. I never again drank any water
from
that spring.
Bottled water is always the best option. I understand that water in some
of the areas of Vietnam still contains Agent Orange--or whatever it was
called.


There were lots of chemicals used in Vietnam, Agent Orange being the most
notorious.

I understand that what is being found in Vietnam these days is dioxin,
which was merely a contaminant of AO, and not an active ingredient. It was
cheaper for the manufacturer to leave it in than to remove it.


  #212  
Old August 1st 06, 07:44 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
JohnDoe
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Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , JohnDoe
wrote:

Peter Bowditch wrote:

"HCN" wrote:


"JohnDoe" wrote in message
l...

Jason Johnson wrote:


.... And if they ever did, did aluminum cause it?

Dear Jason, the word 'metal' does not equal 'so poisonous it

should be
wholly removed from the environment'. While you may not be an

anti-vac
liar, you certainly seem to suffer from a degree of delusion

with regard
to the toxicity of metals.


...

Hmmm... would that mean (according to those that equate metal to
"bad") that
the following metals should never be ingested by humans:

calcium ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
iron ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
sodium ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
potassium ...


http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html





I'm waiting for the day when the anti-psychiatry loons criticise
medications containing lithium because of the risk of heavy metal
poisoning.

Damn, why didn't I think of that!! BTW, are you sure they

haven't done
that yet? And if they didn't and they start doing it, at least we'll
have clue who started it all. Lol.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JohnDoe,
Lithium is used in the treatment of manic-depressive illness.

However, as
you may know, "...lithium toxicity, including severe neutoxic

effects, can
occur with normal serum lithium levels...."

Source: "Labortory Test Handbook" (2nd Edition) by David S.

Jabobs, M.D.
and others.

As far as I know, mercury is NOT used to treat any illnesses so

there is a
majory difference between lithium and mercury.

There are homeopathic medicines prepared with mercury.

Look it up.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JohnDoe,
In these homeopathic medicines, is mercury the ONLY item or is it mixed
with other items?


It is mixed with water. Lots of water.

As far as lithium is concerned, it does NOT need to be
mixed with any items.
Jason

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat?


For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
Thanks. It must be a very rare disorder since it is not listed in my
"Laboratory Test Handbook with Disease Index".
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


I think the proverb: 'a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing'
applies here.
  #213  
Old August 1st 06, 07:49 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
JohnDoe
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Jason Johnson wrote:

In article .com,
"Raving Loonie" wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a
medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word
that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at
least one disorder. I also found out that health food stores actually sell
products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine):
examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products:
Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once
a day.
Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day.
Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Enjoy your next cup of Aluminum infused tea, Jason.

If being a drunk doesn't addle the brain; being a tea drinker *might*
do the trick.

;-)

Cordially,

RL

P.S. Nice to see you switch to more conventional quoting methods.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and tea infusions]

[Article in Japanese]

Matsushima F, Me****suka S, Nose T.

Tottori Women's College, Kurayoshi, Japan.

We measured the contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and
tea infusions by means of various standardized infusion conditions, and
by using flameless atomic absorption spectrophotometry, and
investigated the influence of infusion conditions on the elution of
aluminum and manganese into the tea infusions. Furthermore, we tried to
estimate the daily intake of aluminum and manganese due to drinking tea
infusions. The content of aluminum in tea leaves was 1420 micrograms/g
in case of wulong tea, 576 micrograms/g in black tea, and 520
micrograms/g in green tea. The content of manganese was 1440
micrograms/g in the case of wulong tea, 670 micrograms/g in green tea,
and 535 micrograms/g in black tea. The concentration of aluminum in tea
infusions was 1.49-5.58 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, 0.90-4.92
micrograms/ml in green tea, and 0.64-4.35 micrograms/ml in black tea.
The concentration of manganese was 1.75-6.67 micrograms/ml in green
tea, 0.94-4.04 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, and 0.78-3.24 micrograms/ml
in black tea. The ratio of the molar concentration of aluminum to that
of manganese was 1-2:1 in tea leaves, and 1-5:1 in tea infusions. In
the case of elevated-temperature infusion, increases of the
concentrations of aluminum and manganese in tea infusions were
recognized. By repeating infusion three times according to the standard
method for ingredient analysis of food, 18-29% of the total content of
aluminum in tea leaves was eluted, and 12-29% of the total content of
manganese was eluted.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS)


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

RL,
Thanks a lot--something else for me to worry about--alumnium in tea. I
have already had to discard a full bottle of antacid since it contained
high levels of alumnium. My quoting methods work with some newsgroup
readers. I tried another newsreader that will work with my old computer
but it would not allow
me to use a fake email address.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jason, you are worrying about things you shouldn't worry about. I could
tell you why rationally, with facts and all but I don't think that
message would get through. It's quite clear from your absolute focus on
metals and your fears that we're looking at an anxiety disorder. Please
seek professional help Jason.
  #214  
Old August 1st 06, 07:41 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Jason Johnson
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Default More Aluminum bull**** ... was BU$TED?

In article , JohnDoe
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:

In article .com,
"Raving Loonie" wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a
medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word
that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at
least one disorder. I also found out that health food stores actually sell
products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine):
examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products:
Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once
a day.
Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day.
Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Enjoy your next cup of Aluminum infused tea, Jason.

If being a drunk doesn't addle the brain; being a tea drinker *might*
do the trick.

;-)

Cordially,

RL

P.S. Nice to see you switch to more conventional quoting methods.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and tea infusions]

[Article in Japanese]

Matsushima F, Me****suka S, Nose T.

Tottori Women's College, Kurayoshi, Japan.

We measured the contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and
tea infusions by means of various standardized infusion conditions, and
by using flameless atomic absorption spectrophotometry, and
investigated the influence of infusion conditions on the elution of
aluminum and manganese into the tea infusions. Furthermore, we tried to
estimate the daily intake of aluminum and manganese due to drinking tea
infusions. The content of aluminum in tea leaves was 1420 micrograms/g
in case of wulong tea, 576 micrograms/g in black tea, and 520
micrograms/g in green tea. The content of manganese was 1440
micrograms/g in the case of wulong tea, 670 micrograms/g in green tea,
and 535 micrograms/g in black tea. The concentration of aluminum in tea
infusions was 1.49-5.58 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, 0.90-4.92
micrograms/ml in green tea, and 0.64-4.35 micrograms/ml in black tea.
The concentration of manganese was 1.75-6.67 micrograms/ml in green
tea, 0.94-4.04 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, and 0.78-3.24 micrograms/ml
in black tea. The ratio of the molar concentration of aluminum to that
of manganese was 1-2:1 in tea leaves, and 1-5:1 in tea infusions. In
the case of elevated-temperature infusion, increases of the
concentrations of aluminum and manganese in tea infusions were
recognized. By repeating infusion three times according to the standard
method for ingredient analysis of food, 18-29% of the total content of
aluminum in tea leaves was eluted, and 12-29% of the total content of
manganese was eluted.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS)



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

RL,
Thanks a lot--something else for me to worry about--alumnium in tea. I
have already had to discard a full bottle of antacid since it contained
high levels of alumnium. My quoting methods work with some newsgroup
readers. I tried another newsreader that will work with my old computer
but it would not allow
me to use a fake email address.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jason, you are worrying about things you shouldn't worry about. I could
tell you why rationally, with facts and all but I don't think that
message would get through. It's quite clear from your absolute focus on
metals and your fears that we're looking at an anxiety disorder. Please
seek professional help Jason.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JohnDoe,
Yes, I try to limit my exposure to known poisons. I realize that various
types of foods and drinks contain small amounts of poisons. That does not
cause me to worry. However, if I found out that a certain food or drink
contained high levels of a poison, I would not eat that food or drink that
liquid.
Jason
  #215  
Old August 1st 06, 11:14 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Mark Probert
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Default More Aluminum bull**** ... was BU$TED?

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , JohnDoe
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:

In article .com,
"Raving Loonie" wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a
medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word
that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at
least one disorder. I also found out that health food stores actually sell
products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine):
examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products:
Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once
a day.
Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day.
Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Enjoy your next cup of Aluminum infused tea, Jason.

If being a drunk doesn't addle the brain; being a tea drinker *might*
do the trick.

;-)

Cordially,

RL

P.S. Nice to see you switch to more conventional quoting methods.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and tea infusions]

[Article in Japanese]

Matsushima F, Me****suka S, Nose T.

Tottori Women's College, Kurayoshi, Japan.

We measured the contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and
tea infusions by means of various standardized infusion conditions, and
by using flameless atomic absorption spectrophotometry, and
investigated the influence of infusion conditions on the elution of
aluminum and manganese into the tea infusions. Furthermore, we tried to
estimate the daily intake of aluminum and manganese due to drinking tea
infusions. The content of aluminum in tea leaves was 1420 micrograms/g
in case of wulong tea, 576 micrograms/g in black tea, and 520
micrograms/g in green tea. The content of manganese was 1440
micrograms/g in the case of wulong tea, 670 micrograms/g in green tea,
and 535 micrograms/g in black tea. The concentration of aluminum in tea
infusions was 1.49-5.58 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, 0.90-4.92
micrograms/ml in green tea, and 0.64-4.35 micrograms/ml in black tea.
The concentration of manganese was 1.75-6.67 micrograms/ml in green
tea, 0.94-4.04 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, and 0.78-3.24 micrograms/ml
in black tea. The ratio of the molar concentration of aluminum to that
of manganese was 1-2:1 in tea leaves, and 1-5:1 in tea infusions. In
the case of elevated-temperature infusion, increases of the
concentrations of aluminum and manganese in tea infusions were
recognized. By repeating infusion three times according to the standard
method for ingredient analysis of food, 18-29% of the total content of
aluminum in tea leaves was eluted, and 12-29% of the total content of
manganese was eluted.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS)



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

RL,
Thanks a lot--something else for me to worry about--alumnium in tea. I
have already had to discard a full bottle of antacid since it contained
high levels of alumnium. My quoting methods work with some newsgroup
readers. I tried another newsreader that will work with my old computer
but it would not allow
me to use a fake email address.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jason, you are worrying about things you shouldn't worry about. I could
tell you why rationally, with facts and all but I don't think that
message would get through. It's quite clear from your absolute focus on
metals and your fears that we're looking at an anxiety disorder. Please
seek professional help Jason.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JohnDoe,
Yes, I try to limit my exposure to known poisons. I realize that various
types of foods and drinks contain small amounts of poisons. That does not
cause me to worry. However, if I found out that a certain food or drink
contained high levels of a poison, I would not eat that food or drink that
liquid.


How does that square with your concerns about thimerosal and aluminum?
It seems quite inconsistent.

Note that I merely comment on your posts, and, until such time as you
email me, I will not engage in a discussion with you.
  #216  
Old August 1st 06, 11:25 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , JohnDoe
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article .com,
"Raving Loonie" wrote:
Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined

with a
medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take

your word
that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to

treat at
least one disorder. I also found out that health food stores

actually sell
products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine):
examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products:
Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of

water once
a day.
Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day.
Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Enjoy your next cup of Aluminum infused tea, Jason.
If being a drunk doesn't addle the brain; being a tea drinker

*might*
do the trick.
;-)
Cordially,
RL
P.S. Nice to see you switch to more conventional quoting methods.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[Contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and tea

infusions]
[Article in Japanese]
Matsushima F, Me****suka S, Nose T.
Tottori Women's College, Kurayoshi, Japan.
We measured the contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves

and
tea infusions by means of various standardized infusion conditions,

and
by using flameless atomic absorption spectrophotometry, and
investigated the influence of infusion conditions on the elution of
aluminum and manganese into the tea infusions. Furthermore, we tried

to
estimate the daily intake of aluminum and manganese due to drinking

tea
infusions. The content of aluminum in tea leaves was 1420

micrograms/g
in case of wulong tea, 576 micrograms/g in black tea, and 520
micrograms/g in green tea. The content of manganese was 1440
micrograms/g in the case of wulong tea, 670 micrograms/g in green

tea,
and 535 micrograms/g in black tea. The concentration of aluminum in

tea
infusions was 1.49-5.58 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, 0.90-4.92
micrograms/ml in green tea, and 0.64-4.35 micrograms/ml in black tea.
The concentration of manganese was 1.75-6.67 micrograms/ml in green
tea, 0.94-4.04 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, and 0.78-3.24

micrograms/ml
in black tea. The ratio of the molar concentration of aluminum to

that
of manganese was 1-2:1 in tea leaves, and 1-5:1 in tea infusions. In
the case of elevated-temperature infusion, increases of the
concentrations of aluminum and manganese in tea infusions were
recognized. By repeating infusion three times according to the

standard
method for ingredient analysis of food, 18-29% of the total content

of
aluminum in tea leaves was eluted, and 12-29% of the total content of
manganese was eluted.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
RL,
Thanks a lot--something else for me to worry about--alumnium in tea. I
have already had to discard a full bottle of antacid since it

contained
high levels of alumnium. My quoting methods work with some newsgroup
readers. I tried another newsreader that will work with my old

computer
but it would not allow
me to use a fake email address.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jason, you are worrying about things you shouldn't worry about. I could
tell you why rationally, with facts and all but I don't think that
message would get through. It's quite clear from your absolute focus on
metals and your fears that we're looking at an anxiety disorder. Please
seek professional help Jason.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JohnDoe,
Yes, I try to limit my exposure to known poisons. I realize that various
types of foods and drinks contain small amounts of poisons. That does not
cause me to worry. However, if I found out that a certain food or drink
contained high levels of a poison, I would not eat that food or drink
that
liquid.


How does that square with your concerns about thimerosal and aluminum? It
seems quite inconsistent.

Note that I merely comment on your posts, and, until such time as you
email me, I will not engage in a discussion with you.


Like your fake UDP..............................


  #217  
Old August 2nd 06, 12:37 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Jason Johnson
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 213
Default More Aluminum bull**** ... was BU$TED?

In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , JohnDoe
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:

In article .com,
"Raving Loonie" wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a
medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take

your word
that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to

treat at
least one disorder. I also found out that health food stores

actually sell
products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine):
examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products:
Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of

water once
a day.
Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day.
Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Enjoy your next cup of Aluminum infused tea, Jason.

If being a drunk doesn't addle the brain; being a tea drinker *might*
do the trick.

;-)

Cordially,

RL

P.S. Nice to see you switch to more conventional quoting methods.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and tea infusions]

[Article in Japanese]

Matsushima F, Me****suka S, Nose T.

Tottori Women's College, Kurayoshi, Japan.

We measured the contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and
tea infusions by means of various standardized infusion conditions, and
by using flameless atomic absorption spectrophotometry, and
investigated the influence of infusion conditions on the elution of
aluminum and manganese into the tea infusions. Furthermore, we tried to
estimate the daily intake of aluminum and manganese due to drinking tea
infusions. The content of aluminum in tea leaves was 1420 micrograms/g
in case of wulong tea, 576 micrograms/g in black tea, and 520
micrograms/g in green tea. The content of manganese was 1440
micrograms/g in the case of wulong tea, 670 micrograms/g in green tea,
and 535 micrograms/g in black tea. The concentration of aluminum in tea
infusions was 1.49-5.58 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, 0.90-4.92
micrograms/ml in green tea, and 0.64-4.35 micrograms/ml in black tea.
The concentration of manganese was 1.75-6.67 micrograms/ml in green
tea, 0.94-4.04 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, and 0.78-3.24 micrograms/ml
in black tea. The ratio of the molar concentration of aluminum to that
of manganese was 1-2:1 in tea leaves, and 1-5:1 in tea infusions. In
the case of elevated-temperature infusion, increases of the
concentrations of aluminum and manganese in tea infusions were
recognized. By repeating infusion three times according to the standard
method for ingredient analysis of food, 18-29% of the total content of
aluminum in tea leaves was eluted, and 12-29% of the total content of
manganese was eluted.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS)




http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

RL,
Thanks a lot--something else for me to worry about--alumnium in tea. I
have already had to discard a full bottle of antacid since it contained
high levels of alumnium. My quoting methods work with some newsgroup
readers. I tried another newsreader that will work with my old computer
but it would not allow
me to use a fake email address.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jason, you are worrying about things you shouldn't worry about. I could
tell you why rationally, with facts and all but I don't think that
message would get through. It's quite clear from your absolute focus on
metals and your fears that we're looking at an anxiety disorder. Please
seek professional help Jason.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JohnDoe,
Yes, I try to limit my exposure to known poisons. I realize that various
types of foods and drinks contain small amounts of poisons. That does not
cause me to worry. However, if I found out that a certain food or drink
contained high levels of a poison, I would not eat that food or drink that
liquid.


How does that square with your concerns about thimerosal and aluminum?
It seems quite inconsistent.

Note that I merely comment on your posts, and, until such time as you
email me, I will not engage in a discussion with you.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
It's possible for anyone to limit their exposure to poisons but it's
impossible for most of us to never be exposed to poisons since it part of
our environment. For example, when I walk down the streets in my city, I
have to breath in pollution from the vehicles. Lots of foods contain
poisons and all of us have to eat. The most that we can do is to limit our
exposure to poisons. My main concern is children. I think that it was be
better if children never had to take vaccines that contain known poisons
or have dental fillings that contain known poisons. The experts at FDA
agree with me in relation to
vaccines that contain mercury.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  #218  
Old August 2nd 06, 12:48 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,707
Default More JohnDoe bull**** ... was BU$TED?

The control problem freak--tells Jason what he should not worry about.

Adds accusations, and insults.

Thinks aluminum [an established neurotoxin] is bull****.

"JohnDoe" wrote in message
. ..
Jason Johnson wrote:

In article .com,
"Raving Loonie" wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a
medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your

word
that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to

treat at
least one disorder. I also found out that health food stores actually

sell
products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine):
examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products:
Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water

once
a day.
Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day.
Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Enjoy your next cup of Aluminum infused tea, Jason.
If being a drunk doesn't addle the brain; being a tea drinker *might*
do the trick.
;-)
Cordially,
RL
P.S. Nice to see you switch to more conventional quoting methods.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[Contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and tea infusions]
[Article in Japanese]
Matsushima F, Me****suka S, Nose T.
Tottori Women's College, Kurayoshi, Japan.
We measured the contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and
tea infusions by means of various standardized infusion conditions, and
by using flameless atomic absorption spectrophotometry, and
investigated the influence of infusion conditions on the elution of
aluminum and manganese into the tea infusions. Furthermore, we tried to
estimate the daily intake of aluminum and manganese due to drinking tea
infusions. The content of aluminum in tea leaves was 1420 micrograms/g
in case of wulong tea, 576 micrograms/g in black tea, and 520
micrograms/g in green tea. The content of manganese was 1440
micrograms/g in the case of wulong tea, 670 micrograms/g in green tea,
and 535 micrograms/g in black tea. The concentration of aluminum in tea
infusions was 1.49-5.58 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, 0.90-4.92
micrograms/ml in green tea, and 0.64-4.35 micrograms/ml in black tea.
The concentration of manganese was 1.75-6.67 micrograms/ml in green
tea, 0.94-4.04 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, and 0.78-3.24 micrograms/ml
in black tea. The ratio of the molar concentration of aluminum to that
of manganese was 1-2:1 in tea leaves, and 1-5:1 in tea infusions. In
the case of elevated-temperature infusion, increases of the
concentrations of aluminum and manganese in tea infusions were
recognized. By repeating infusion three times according to the standard
method for ingredient analysis of food, 18-29% of the total content of
aluminum in tea leaves was eluted, and 12-29% of the total content of
manganese was eluted.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

RL,
Thanks a lot--something else for me to worry about--alumnium in tea. I
have already had to discard a full bottle of antacid since it contained
high levels of alumnium. My quoting methods work with some newsgroup
readers. I tried another newsreader that will work with my old computer
but it would not allow
me to use a fake email address.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jason, you are worrying about things you shouldn't worry about. I could
tell you why rationally, with facts and all but I don't think that message
would get through. It's quite clear from your absolute focus on metals and
your fears that we're looking at an anxiety disorder. Please seek
professional help Jason.



  #219  
Old August 2nd 06, 07:56 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
JohnDoe
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 30
Default More Aluminum bull**** ... was BU$TED?

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , JohnDoe
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:

In article .com,
"Raving Loonie" wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a
medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word
that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at
least one disorder. I also found out that health food stores actually sell
products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine):
examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products:
Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once
a day.
Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day.
Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Enjoy your next cup of Aluminum infused tea, Jason.

If being a drunk doesn't addle the brain; being a tea drinker *might*
do the trick.

;-)

Cordially,

RL

P.S. Nice to see you switch to more conventional quoting methods.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and tea infusions]

[Article in Japanese]

Matsushima F, Me****suka S, Nose T.

Tottori Women's College, Kurayoshi, Japan.

We measured the contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and
tea infusions by means of various standardized infusion conditions, and
by using flameless atomic absorption spectrophotometry, and
investigated the influence of infusion conditions on the elution of
aluminum and manganese into the tea infusions. Furthermore, we tried to
estimate the daily intake of aluminum and manganese due to drinking tea
infusions. The content of aluminum in tea leaves was 1420 micrograms/g
in case of wulong tea, 576 micrograms/g in black tea, and 520
micrograms/g in green tea. The content of manganese was 1440
micrograms/g in the case of wulong tea, 670 micrograms/g in green tea,
and 535 micrograms/g in black tea. The concentration of aluminum in tea
infusions was 1.49-5.58 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, 0.90-4.92
micrograms/ml in green tea, and 0.64-4.35 micrograms/ml in black tea.
The concentration of manganese was 1.75-6.67 micrograms/ml in green
tea, 0.94-4.04 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, and 0.78-3.24 micrograms/ml
in black tea. The ratio of the molar concentration of aluminum to that
of manganese was 1-2:1 in tea leaves, and 1-5:1 in tea infusions. In
the case of elevated-temperature infusion, increases of the
concentrations of aluminum and manganese in tea infusions were
recognized. By repeating infusion three times according to the standard
method for ingredient analysis of food, 18-29% of the total content of
aluminum in tea leaves was eluted, and 12-29% of the total content of
manganese was eluted.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS)



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

RL,
Thanks a lot--something else for me to worry about--alumnium in tea. I
have already had to discard a full bottle of antacid since it contained
high levels of alumnium. My quoting methods work with some newsgroup
readers. I tried another newsreader that will work with my old computer
but it would not allow
me to use a fake email address.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jason, you are worrying about things you shouldn't worry about. I could
tell you why rationally, with facts and all but I don't think that
message would get through. It's quite clear from your absolute focus on
metals and your fears that we're looking at an anxiety disorder. Please
seek professional help Jason.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JohnDoe,
Yes, I try to limit my exposure to known poisons. I realize that various
types of foods and drinks contain small amounts of poisons. That does not
cause me to worry. However, if I found out that a certain food or drink
contained high levels of a poison, I would not eat that food or drink that
liquid.
Jason


Jason, if a certain food or drink contained high levels of a poison, it
wouldn't be a food or drink. We'd call it a poison......
Your inability to see that is typical of an anxiety disorder.
  #220  
Old August 2nd 06, 02:25 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Mark Probert
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,876
Default More Aluminum bull**** ... was BU$TED?

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , JohnDoe
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:

In article .com,
"Raving Loonie" wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a
medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take

your word
that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to

treat at
least one disorder. I also found out that health food stores

actually sell
products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine):
examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products:
Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of

water once
a day.
Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day.
Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Enjoy your next cup of Aluminum infused tea, Jason.

If being a drunk doesn't addle the brain; being a tea drinker *might*
do the trick.

;-)

Cordially,

RL

P.S. Nice to see you switch to more conventional quoting methods.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and tea infusions]

[Article in Japanese]

Matsushima F, Me****suka S, Nose T.

Tottori Women's College, Kurayoshi, Japan.

We measured the contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and
tea infusions by means of various standardized infusion conditions, and
by using flameless atomic absorption spectrophotometry, and
investigated the influence of infusion conditions on the elution of
aluminum and manganese into the tea infusions. Furthermore, we tried to
estimate the daily intake of aluminum and manganese due to drinking tea
infusions. The content of aluminum in tea leaves was 1420 micrograms/g
in case of wulong tea, 576 micrograms/g in black tea, and 520
micrograms/g in green tea. The content of manganese was 1440
micrograms/g in the case of wulong tea, 670 micrograms/g in green tea,
and 535 micrograms/g in black tea. The concentration of aluminum in tea
infusions was 1.49-5.58 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, 0.90-4.92
micrograms/ml in green tea, and 0.64-4.35 micrograms/ml in black tea.
The concentration of manganese was 1.75-6.67 micrograms/ml in green
tea, 0.94-4.04 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, and 0.78-3.24 micrograms/ml
in black tea. The ratio of the molar concentration of aluminum to that
of manganese was 1-2:1 in tea leaves, and 1-5:1 in tea infusions. In
the case of elevated-temperature infusion, increases of the
concentrations of aluminum and manganese in tea infusions were
recognized. By repeating infusion three times according to the standard
method for ingredient analysis of food, 18-29% of the total content of
aluminum in tea leaves was eluted, and 12-29% of the total content of
manganese was eluted.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS)




http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

RL,
Thanks a lot--something else for me to worry about--alumnium in tea. I
have already had to discard a full bottle of antacid since it contained
high levels of alumnium. My quoting methods work with some newsgroup
readers. I tried another newsreader that will work with my old computer
but it would not allow
me to use a fake email address.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jason, you are worrying about things you shouldn't worry about. I could
tell you why rationally, with facts and all but I don't think that
message would get through. It's quite clear from your absolute focus on
metals and your fears that we're looking at an anxiety disorder. Please
seek professional help Jason.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JohnDoe,
Yes, I try to limit my exposure to known poisons. I realize that various
types of foods and drinks contain small amounts of poisons. That does not
cause me to worry. However, if I found out that a certain food or drink
contained high levels of a poison, I would not eat that food or drink that
liquid.


How does that square with your concerns about thimerosal and aluminum?
It seems quite inconsistent.

Note that I merely comment on your posts, and, until such time as you
email me, I will not engage in a discussion with you.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
It's possible for anyone to limit their exposure to poisons but it's
impossible for most of us to never be exposed to poisons since it part of
our environment. For example, when I walk down the streets in my city, I
have to breath in pollution from the vehicles. Lots of foods contain
poisons and all of us have to eat. The most that we can do is to limit our
exposure to poisons. My main concern is children. I think that it was be
better if children never had to take vaccines that contain known poisons
or have dental fillings that contain known poisons. The experts at FDA
agree with me in relation to
vaccines that contain mercury.


Note that I merely comment on your posts, and, until such time as you
email me, I will not engage in a discussion with you.
 




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