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Old November 2nd 10, 06:04 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Default Water has memory, validating homeopathy

http://vimeo.com/14646626


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Old November 2nd 10, 09:27 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Default Water has memory, validating homeopathy

On 11/2/10 2:04 PM, john wrote:
http://vimeo.com/14646626


A statement on a stupid video doesn't validate anything.

There is no scientific basis explaining homeopathy and no scientific
evidence that homeopathy works.

That's why it is part of con-med - conjecture-based medicine, aka
alternative medicine.
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Old November 2nd 10, 11:26 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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"john" wrote in message news
http://vimeo.com/14646626


Homeopathy is what is known as a vibrational remedy. When the solution is shaken it separates the spirit from the substance and it
is the spirit that becomes the active ingredient.
Spirit is behind all matter. Every substance, microbe, animal, plant and person has its own identity and vibrates at its own
frequency. Hence the Rife cures where he identified the frequencies of different disease microbes and was able to knock them out.

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Bob Officer finally admits it -"I am a tool"
http://groups.google.com.au/group/mi...ss+epidemic%22



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Old November 2nd 10, 11:33 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Default Water has memory, validating homeopathy


"Bob Officer" -*-*[email protected]*-*- wrote in message ...
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:04:20 -0000, in misc.health.alternative, "john"
wrote:

http://vimeo.com/14646626


Two fallacies in the 1st 30 seconds. two lies in the 1st three
minutes.

You really lack a basic foundation if you think this knowledge.

Sorry the claim that water is the only element which exists in three
states. (claim made about the 5 minute mark)

For example Mercury can exist as a solid, liquid and gas.

I stopped watching at 5:58... and counted over 30 fallacies and
dozens of falsehoods.


But bob, there is no proof that you have the ability to discern between **** and clay.


Carole this video is labeled as "entertainment".


It was a bit slow moving for me, too much special effects, dramatic music and too high resolution making it slow to download.
The sound was soft, you have it turned up to the max but still have to strain to hear.
I prefer written things but top marks for effort -- probably others will find it interesting.


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Carole
www.conspiracee.com
Bob Officer finally admits it -"I am a tool"
http://groups.google.com.au/group/mi...ss+epidemic%22



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Old November 2nd 10, 11:44 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Default Water has memory, validating homeopathy

On 11/2/10 7:26 PM, carole wrote:
wrote in message news
http://vimeo.com/14646626


Homeopathy is what is known as a vibrational remedy. When the solution is shaken it separates the spirit from the substance and it
is the spirit that becomes the active ingredient.
Spirit is behind all matter. Every substance, microbe, animal, plant and person has its own identity and vibrates at its own
frequency. Hence the Rife cures where he identified the frequencies of different disease microbes and was able to knock them out.



Are you serious? A solution has a spirit? Are you taking this as if it
is for real? This is total crap.

If you think this is real, then you probably had too many spirits: The
ones that come out bottles and are available in glasses at bars. Either
that or you are completely clueless.

Jeff

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Old November 2nd 10, 11:49 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Default Water has memory, validating homeopathy

On 11/2/10 7:41 PM, Bob Officer wrote:
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:27:05 -0400, in misc.health.alternative,
wrote:

On 11/2/10 2:04 PM, john wrote:
http://vimeo.com/14646626


A statement on a stupid video doesn't validate anything.


I watched about 5 minutes of the video.

Fallacies and out right falsehoods mingled freely with a few bits and
pieces are factual information. it was entertainment, but really.
anyone with a basic foundation of evidence based knowledge, would
have most likely got up and left before 5 minutes had been wasted.

There is no scientific basis explaining homeopathy and no scientific
evidence that homeopathy works.

That's why it is part of con-med - conjecture-based medicine, aka
alternative medicine.


I will go even one more, Homeopathy treatments and practice is a
criminal act of defrauding the patient and public. Its practitioners
should be treated as criminals.


True.

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Old November 3rd 10, 02:10 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
carole
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"dr_jeff" wrote in message ...
On 11/2/10 7:26 PM, carole wrote:
wrote in message news
http://vimeo.com/14646626


Homeopathy is what is known as a vibrational remedy. When the solution is shaken it separates the spirit
from the substance and it
is the spirit that becomes the active ingredient.
Spirit is behind all matter. Every substance, microbe, animal, plant and person has its own identity and
vibrates at its own
frequency. Hence the Rife cures where he identified the frequencies of different disease microbes and was
able to knock them out.



Are you serious? A solution has a spirit? Are you taking this as if it is for real? This is total crap.

If you think this is real, then you probably had too many spirits: The ones that come out bottles and are
available in glasses at bars. Either that or you are completely clueless.

Jeff



Some Theoretical Groundwork to Understand Homeopathy and "Energy Medicine"
http://www.naturalworldhealing.com/h...ergytheory.htm

Disruptive vibrations and an unexpected danger:
Further data about the homeopathic phenomenon is fascinating:
1. When the preparations are exposed to a strong electromagnet they seem to lose their ability to cause a
healing response.
2. When they are exposed to direct sunlight they lose the ability to evoke a healing response
3. When some individuals sleep under electric blankets they have lost the benefits they had experienced from
taking a homeopathic medicine.
4. When exposed to strong volatile oils the preparations lose their ability to evoke a healing response.
5. A report by a homeopath in New York City is sobering: He studied the problems in behavior associated with
city living and considered the water supply as a source of destabilizing influence. He noted that as the water
flowed down from reservoirs, falling down pipes and vibrating around bends in the pipes there might be a
potentizing phenomenon on the chemicals in the water. One chemical added to the water was fluoride. Indeed,
the symptoms caused by fluorinum include many of the social problems seen in the city (unsociable behavior,
sexual over-excitement, mental exhaustion and fatigue, etc.). It was as if the entire city had been treated
with long-term exposure to the vibrational energy of fluoride. He found that prescribing homeopathic fluoric
acid helped a number of his patients. It acted almost like an antidote, or mirror image of the negative
influence from the vibrated fluoride water.
* * *

BBC Horizon homeopathy experiment
Pt 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZhmG97lYog
Pt 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jE3hT5lLwA Madeleine Ennis - vet uses homeopathy on animals with good
results.
Pt 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh0phYI3ROs Madeleine Ennis -
Pt 4 - Details of experiment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzO3A04cOis
Pt 5 - James Randi involvement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhSzOShJb2U

Maybe James Randi knows about the electromagnetic ability (No.1 above) to neutralise homeopathy, and passed
some sort of magnet over the samples in the homeopathy experiment.
After all, he is a magician and would know all the tricks of the trade --plus do you really think he would
want to part with 1 million dollars?

Madeleine Ennis was an impartial scientific experimenter and she found homeopathy worked - Part 2 or 3.



--
Carole
www.conspiracee.com
Bob Officer finally admits it -"I am a tool"
http://groups.google.com.au/group/mi...ss+epidemic%22


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Old November 3rd 10, 03:44 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Default Water has memory, validating homeopathy

Bob Officer -*-*[email protected]*-*- wrote in
:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:44:00 -0400, in misc.health.alternative,
dr_jeff wrote:

On 11/2/10 7:26 PM, carole wrote:
wrote in message
news http://vimeo.com/14646626


Homeopathy is what is known as a vibrational remedy. When the
solution is shaken it separates the spirit from the substance and it
is the spirit that becomes the active ingredient.
Spirit is behind all matter. Every substance, microbe, animal, plant
and person has its own identity and vibrates at its own frequency.
Hence the Rife cures where he identified the frequencies of
different disease microbes and was able to knock them out.



Are you serious? A solution has a spirit? Are you taking this as if it
is for real? This is total crap.


This stunned me...


Me as well. She comes across as a True Believer more and more.

If you think this is real, then you probably had too many spirits: The
ones that come out bottles and are available in glasses at bars.
Either that or you are completely clueless.


I now wonder if "Carole" is nothing more than a few college students
playing with a bot...

an Experiment in Artificial Stupidity.


Either that, or she's got religion in a big way. There is evidence for
that, what with her blethering about spirit and vitality etc.

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enlightened public, able to distinguish the work of a reputable
investigator from the work of the incompetent and self-deluded. -
Martin Gardner
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Old November 3rd 10, 03:46 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Steelclaws
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Default Water has memory, validating homeopathy

"carole" wrote in
nd.com:


"dr_jeff" wrote in message
...
On 11/2/10 7:26 PM, carole wrote:
wrote in message
news http://vimeo.com/14646626


Homeopathy is what is known as a vibrational remedy. When the
solution is shaken it separates the spirit from the substance and it
is the spirit that becomes the active ingredient.
Spirit is behind all matter. Every substance, microbe, animal, plant
and person has its own identity and vibrates at its own
frequency. Hence the Rife cures where he identified the frequencies
of different disease microbes and was able to knock them out.



Are you serious? A solution has a spirit? Are you taking this as if
it is for real? This is total crap.

If you think this is real, then you probably had too many spirits:
The ones that come out bottles and are available in glasses at bars.
Either that or you are completely clueless.

Jeff



Some Theoretical Groundwork to Understand Homeopathy and "Energy
Medicine"
http://www.naturalworldhealing.com/h...ergytheory.htm

Disruptive vibrations and an unexpected danger:
Further data about the homeopathic phenomenon is fascinating:
1. When the preparations are exposed to a strong electromagnet they
seem to lose their ability to cause a healing response.
2. When they are exposed to direct sunlight they lose the ability to
evoke a healing response 3. When some individuals sleep under electric
blankets they have lost the benefits they had experienced from taking
a homeopathic medicine. 4. When exposed to strong volatile oils the
preparations lose their ability to evoke a healing response. 5. A
report by a homeopath in New York City is sobering: He studied the
problems in behavior associated with city living and considered the
water supply as a source of destabilizing influence. He noted that as
the water flowed down from reservoirs, falling down pipes and
vibrating around bends in the pipes there might be a potentizing
phenomenon on the chemicals in the water. One chemical added to the
water was fluoride. Indeed, the symptoms caused by fluorinum include
many of the social problems seen in the city (unsociable behavior,
sexual over-excitement, mental exhaustion and fatigue, etc.). It was
as if the entire city had been treated with long-term exposure to the
vibrational energy of fluoride. He found that prescribing homeopathic
fluoric acid helped a number of his patients. It acted almost like an
antidote, or mirror image of the negative influence from the vibrated
fluoride water. * * *

BBC Horizon homeopathy experiment
Pt 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZhmG97lYog
Pt 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jE3hT5lLwA Madeleine Ennis -
vet uses homeopathy on animals with good results.
Pt 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh0phYI3ROs Madeleine Ennis -
Pt 4 - Details of experiment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzO3A04cOis Pt 5 - James Randi
involvement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhSzOShJb2U

Maybe James Randi knows about the electromagnetic ability (No.1 above)
to neutralise homeopathy, and passed some sort of magnet over the
samples in the homeopathy experiment. After all, he is a magician and
would know all the tricks of the trade --plus do you really think he
would want to part with 1 million dollars?

Madeleine Ennis was an impartial scientific experimenter and she found
homeopathy worked - Part 2 or 3.


*facepalm*

I've seldom seen a rationalization of that magnitude.

--
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to
persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. -Carl
Sagan
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Old November 3rd 10, 06:35 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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"Steelclaws" wrote in message
4.39...


Madeleine Ennis was an impartial scientific experimenter and she found
homeopathy worked - Part 2 or 3.


*facepalm*

I've seldom seen a rationalization of that magnitude.


From you allopaths maybe with your bias against homeopathy and chiropractic.


--
Carole
www.conspiracee.com
Bob Officer finally admits it -"I am a tool"
http://groups.google.com.au/group/mi...ss+epidemic%22



 




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