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  #121  
Old November 18th 10, 03:42 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Peter Bowditch
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"carole" wrote:

Let's see now -- we have incurable diabetes, asthma, ms, altzheimers, allergies, arthritis, rheumatism and I'm
sure you can think of more failures of allopathic medicine.


So where are the people cured by snake oil? (I don't think anyone
treated with traditional allopathy (the four humours, etc) is still
alive, seeing as allopathy disappeared almost 200 years ago. If you
mean allopathy as defined by the person who invented the term, I have
to agree that acupuncture, reiki, chiropractic, herbalism, naturopathy
and energy medicine have failed to cure these diseases.)

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  #122  
Old November 18th 10, 03:44 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Peter Bowditch
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"carole" wrote:

The diagnosis isn't so important as allopathic medicine would have us believe.


Allopathic medicine is everything that is not homeopathy. The person
who invented homeopathy (and the word 'allopathy") says that diagnosis
should not even be attempted. The symptoms are everything and are all
that should be treated.

This is in the very first paragraphs of Hahnemann's book. Read it.

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  #123  
Old November 18th 10, 03:47 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Steelclaws wrote:

There are actually 2 types of osteoporosis, primary type 1 or type 2 and
secondary osteoporosis. Osteoporosis is most common in women after
menopause, and is referred to as primary type 1 or postmenopausal
osteoporosis. Primary type 2 osteoporosis or senile osteoporosis occurs
at age 75 years and older and is seen in both females and males in a 2:1
ratio


Then there's the osteoporosis caused by diseases such as multiple
myeloma (it's often the first sign). This is what killed Hulda Clark -
hypocalcemia due to MM caused severe osteoporosis in her spine.

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  #124  
Old November 18th 10, 03:49 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Peter Bowditch
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"carole" wrote:

It points out nothing. Words change and you want to have allopathic reserved for opposition to hahneman but
its ok to change meanings of toxemia to suit allopathic.


Once the concept of poisoned blood was discarded because of increased
scientific knowledge the word "toxemia" was just lying around with no
meaning, so why not use it for something useful.

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  #125  
Old December 19th 10, 07:05 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Earle Jones
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Default Water has memory, validating homeopathy

In article om,
"carole" wrote:

"Bob Officer" -*-*[email protected]*-*- wrote in message
...
On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 00:16:14 +1100, in misc.health.alternative,
"carole" wrote:


"dr_jeff" wrote in message
om...
On 11/3/10 2:36 AM, carole wrote:


I will go even one more, Homeopathy treatments and practice is a
criminal act of defrauding the patient and public. Its practitioners
should be treated as criminals.


Your bias and ignorance is showing.

Yes, a bias against treatments with no basis in scientific evidence, no
scientific rational and no
evidence
that they work. Making people pay for these treatments is tantamount to
theft.

Jeff


Hey Dr Jeff, its not my fault that modern medicine has been engineered to
only support pharmaceutical
solutions.
Homeopathy was seen as competition and had to go along with any other
therapies that cut into market share.


*
Carole:

Greetings!

Are there any studies of homeopathic remedies that are based on the
usual double-blind placebo controlled experiments?

If you know of some, please quote them here. Thanks.

Where were they published?

Cheers!

earle
*
  #126  
Old December 19th 10, 07:12 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Earle Jones
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In article om,
"carole" wrote:

"Steelclaws" wrote in message
4.39...
Bob Officer -*-*[email protected]*-*- wrote in
:

Sorry, Hans is a mediocre writer at best. The story lacks facts and
substance and Evidence.

So that makes you a clown.

PRojection Carole. All I ask for is evidence, and there is none.
Stories are not Evidence. Now if the story was backed by maybe a Hand
written note signed by Rockefeller or even a directive or letter of
agreement on Rockefeller Corporate Stationary signed by an employee
of Rockefeller.

All you have is mere-say. And mere-say is not ever considered
evidence. This is called the Empty Hand Syndrome. You got nothing, no
matter how much you wave those hands. (at least a clown is funny.)


Well, if someone wrote it, published it in either printed or online form
and it appears to support carole's assumptions, that's good enough for
her. She does not appear to do any validity checks.


Yes, I compare writings to others.
For example, there is a lot of coverups in political areas ...stories are fed
to the press ...explanations
that cover situations enough but not the whole truth.
People are left with questions and often its the best showman that gets away
with things.


--
There are three kinds of medicine: medicine that has been
scientifically validated to work, medicine that has not, and
medicine that has been scientifically shown not to work. -Orac


And medicine that has had rigged studies and medicine that is suppressed and
the inventors labeled as quacks.
Absolutely all sorts.


*
My wife has suffered a double pneumonectomy. Is there any homeopathic
procedure that might give her some relief -- some possibility of living?

earle
*
  #127  
Old December 19th 10, 02:29 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
dr_jeff
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Default Water has memory, validating homeopathy

On 12/19/10 2:12 AM, Earle Jones wrote:
In gpond.com,
wrote:

wrote in message
4.39...
Bob Officer-*-*[email protected]*-*- wrote in
:

Sorry, Hans is a mediocre writer at best. The story lacks facts and
substance and Evidence.

So that makes you a clown.

PRojection Carole. All I ask for is evidence, and there is none.
Stories are not Evidence. Now if the story was backed by maybe a Hand
written note signed by Rockefeller or even a directive or letter of
agreement on Rockefeller Corporate Stationary signed by an employee
of Rockefeller.

All you have is mere-say. And mere-say is not ever considered
evidence. This is called the Empty Hand Syndrome. You got nothing, no
matter how much you wave those hands. (at least a clown is funny.)

Well, if someone wrote it, published it in either printed or online form
and it appears to support carole's assumptions, that's good enough for
her. She does not appear to do any validity checks.


Yes, I compare writings to others.
For example, there is a lot of coverups in political areas ...stories are fed
to the press ...explanations
that cover situations enough but not the whole truth.
People are left with questions and often its the best showman that gets away
with things.


--
There are three kinds of medicine: medicine that has been
scientifically validated to work, medicine that has not, and
medicine that has been scientifically shown not to work. -Orac


And medicine that has had rigged studies and medicine that is suppressed and
the inventors labeled as quacks.
Absolutely all sorts.


*
My wife has suffered a double pneumonectomy. Is there any homeopathic
procedure that might give her some relief -- some possibility of living?

earle
*


Well Carole had a bilateral cerebral hemisphere removal. No one notice
any changes.

Jeff
  #128  
Old December 20th 10, 07:21 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Steelclaws
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Default Water has memory, validating homeopathy

dr_jeff wrote in
:

On 12/19/10 2:12 AM, Earle Jones wrote:
In gpond.com,
wrote:

wrote in message
4.39...
Bob Officer-*-*[email protected]*-*- wrote in
:

Sorry, Hans is a mediocre writer at best. The story lacks facts
and substance and Evidence.

So that makes you a clown.

PRojection Carole. All I ask for is evidence, and there is none.
Stories are not Evidence. Now if the story was backed by maybe a
Hand written note signed by Rockefeller or even a directive or
letter of agreement on Rockefeller Corporate Stationary signed by
an employee of Rockefeller.

All you have is mere-say. And mere-say is not ever considered
evidence. This is called the Empty Hand Syndrome. You got nothing,
no matter how much you wave those hands. (at least a clown is
funny.)

Well, if someone wrote it, published it in either printed or online
form and it appears to support carole's assumptions, that's good
enough for her. She does not appear to do any validity checks.

Yes, I compare writings to others.
For example, there is a lot of coverups in political areas
...stories are fed to the press ...explanations
that cover situations enough but not the whole truth.
People are left with questions and often its the best showman that
gets away with things.


--
There are three kinds of medicine: medicine that has been
scientifically validated to work, medicine that has not, and
medicine that has been scientifically shown not to work. -Orac

And medicine that has had rigged studies and medicine that is
suppressed and the inventors labeled as quacks.
Absolutely all sorts.


*
My wife has suffered a double pneumonectomy. Is there any
homeopathic procedure that might give her some relief -- some
possibility of living?

earle
*


Well Carole had a bilateral cerebral hemisphere removal. No one notice
any changes.


ROFLMAO!

Now watch that swoosh clear over carole's depleted cranium.

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believe that if you are healthy, your lungs, kidney and liver
need help removing toxins from your body," -Colleen Doyle
 




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