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I think it was Anne that said I'll have to stop breastfeeding for 5 days
but can still pump and store the EBM for later use, when it is no longer radioactive. I don't know what I'll do in those 5 days because DD just won't have anything to do with a bottle or sippy cup of EBM or formula. She'll drink water but not milk. Breast milk on cereal? A dropper or small syringe? wasn't me, I think it was Anita, you could do with some reliable data on how long you need to go without breastfeeding and how long the milk has to wait before being drunk, they will likely be different figures. Given the behaviour you described, I would think there would be a reasonable chance she would not return to the breast, she's exactly at the age where that kind of behaviour is exhibited - which means you've got a tough decision, wait until she's a year old for the test, or risk her stopping feeding. Chances are if she stops feeding directly, she would after a few days take milk in some other way. I'd be surprised if you got much in my syringe or dropper at this stage, if she doesn't want it, she'll wriggle and squirm and make it quite obvious it's not going to happen, if she does want it, she'd take a cup or bottle. I'm in Australia and the only milk bank we have is in Perth, which is on the other side of the country from me. Or maybe it was Brisbane? Can't remember now, maybe it was both. But there are none in Sydney, where I am. In the meantime I'm pumping and it seems to be working. I'm not getting as much as I'd like but that will come in time, I hope. There is a milk exchange website can't for the life of me remember the address, but that might be an option if you can't get enough pumped, a breast milk bank would charge you an awful lot per ounce! Anne |
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http://66.230.33.248/discus/messages/54/3749.html
thought this would be useful, I think someone mentioned about the different isotopes, seems like you really need to check you get the right isotope, one you can not stop feeding or wait 12-24hrs if it makes you more comfortable, the other has a massively longer half life and it would be several weeks before you could resume. Anne |
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Anne Rogers wrote:
http://66.230.33.248/discus/messages/54/3749.html thought this would be useful, I think someone mentioned about the different isotopes, seems like you really need to check you get the right isotope, one you can not stop feeding or wait 12-24hrs if it makes you more comfortable, the other has a massively longer half life and it would be several weeks before you could resume. Thanks Anne You're a fountain of knowledge as usual I'm seeing the endocrinologist on Thursday, I got lucky and they had a cancellation. I'll take all this info with me and question her thoroughly on radioactivity, half lives and medications. I saw my sister on the weekend. She had post partum Grave's Disease following both of her pregnancies and when I mentioned that there are medications you might be able to take and continue breastfeeding, she was most annoyed that they had made her do a rapid (overnight) wean. Then she took a step back and said that in her case it had been 7 and 4 years ago and they might have new meds. The other thing to take into account is that we're in Australia and it sometimes takes years before a drug that's available elsewhere is approved for use here. I really hope DD doesn't wean herself and that I can continue breastfeeding. She fed OK overnight and again this morning. She's napping now but should wake soon. DS is also sleeping so we should have a nice quiet house with no distractions for this next feed. The TV is off, the room darkened and warm, and mummy is waiting for her And I'm just hanging on until Thursday to see what the endocrinologist has to say. Engram |
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Anne Rogers wrote:
http://66.230.33.248/discus/messages/54/3749.html thought this would be useful, I think someone mentioned about the different isotopes, seems like you really need to check you get the right isotope, one you can not stop feeding or wait 12-24hrs if it makes you more comfortable, the other has a massively longer half life and it would be several weeks before you could resume. I tried to get my endo to use a different isotope, but he wouldn't, so I did not do that scan. He's the one who told me 5 days w/o BF. -- Anita -- |
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I tried to get my endo to use a different isotope,
but he wouldn't, so I did not do that scan. He's the one who told me 5 days w/o BF. which isotope? Dr Hale says 5 days is ridiculous for one and far too soon for the other! Anne |
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Anne Rogers wrote:
I tried to get my endo to use a different isotope, but he wouldn't, so I did not do that scan. He's the one who told me 5 days w/o BF. which isotope? Dr Hale says 5 days is ridiculous for one and far too soon for the other! I don't remember. I think they are probably just being (ultra)conservative. I just know that I decided that I would not get the scan and therefore promptly all the details out of my mind. -- Anita -- |
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which isotope? Dr Hale says 5 days is ridiculous for one and far too soon
for the other! I don't remember. I think they are probably just being (ultra)conservative. I just know that I decided that I would not get the scan and therefore promptly all the details out of my mind. can't remember the acronym mentioned, but with the one that is ok, the organisation that licenses it says no need to stop breastfeeding at all, I think it was NRC, something like that and it's Dr Hale that then added the 12-24hr when he is asked about it. I dug around a bit and it did sound like there were other options for diagnosis, I think needle biopsy, which I suppose many people would find worse than the scan, but for a breastfeeding mother it might be preferable. Anne |
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Chookie wrote:
Do ring the ABA hotline for some advice -- there *are* ways through breast refusal. I'll give them a bell some time soon. I'm seeing the endocrinologist tomorrow and should know more about what they want to do to me. As for the breast refusal... read on Secondly, I would be cutting back on the solids -- they don't need to eat very much at that age. One way is to lower the amount you feed her. Another is to move her to table foods and get her self-feeding. It's one thing to swallow goo off a spoon; it's another to bring something to your mouth and chew it! I decreased the amount of solid food she's getting by only a teaspoonful of cereal (2 full and 1 flat plus milk and fruit or veges instead of 3 full and a dribble on a fourth) and by the second meal it worked like a charm. We're doing 5 to 6 mins per side again. There is no more wriggling and straining against me. She just opens her mouth wide, turns her head to the side and gets down to business After about 3 minutes she pulls off, gives me a big smile, makes a few cooing noises, then it's back to business for another couple of minutes, then off and a bit of a chat and then the other side. So thanks to everyone who suggested cutting back on the solids. I was skeptical but it worked great. I just didn't think she was getting that much but obviously it was the thing that was holding us back. So thanks Engram |
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I decreased the amount of solid food she's getting by only a teaspoonful
of cereal (2 full and 1 flat plus milk and fruit or veges instead of 3 full and a dribble on a fourth) and by the second meal it worked like a charm. We're doing 5 to 6 mins per side again. There is no more wriggling and straining against me. She just opens her mouth wide, turns her head to the side and gets down to business After about 3 minutes she pulls off, gives me a big smile, makes a few cooing noises, then it's back to business for another couple of minutes, then off and a bit of a chat and then the other side. So thanks to everyone who suggested cutting back on the solids. I was skeptical but it worked great. I just didn't think she was getting that much but obviously it was the thing that was holding us back. So thanks glad it worked! I hadn't got a clear view of the timings and whether this was an issue or not, my own cheeky monkey of a daughter after the first couple of months of solids, would sleep through the night (having had a decent bf before bed), wake up and adamently refuse the breast and clearly indicate that she wanted to go downstairs for cereal, she didn't have a large amount and would breastfeed well within the next 2hrs, but when her will was that strong about getting downstairs to eat cereal (I'm talking oatmeal/museli etc. a later stage food, not thin rice with ebm), there was no way we could really work round it. Anne |
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