What to do when breastfeeding comes to an end

this is insane
i refuse to believe this
damn

"Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" wrote in message
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This is a bit disturbing..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3253632.stm

Dave
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this is insane
i refuse to believe this
damn

sadly I can believe this my health visitor did her training in glasgow and
when I say I am a bad mother, she always has an anecdote along these lines
to convince me that I'm doing ok!

Nina wrote:

this is insane
i refuse to believe this
damn

The only defense I have against this is that weaning here means starting
them on solids, not ending bf'ing.

Other than that...sheesh. I'm not surprised tho. Looking around here I
believe it. The foods that are marketed here are *so* unhealthy.
Himself just finished reading Fast Food Nation, and now just stares at
the long long lines in McD's.

Occasionally, it's okay. Every day=bad. Giving chips (either US or UK)
to a 2 month old is WRONG.
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'Tis Herself

Dave {Reply Address in.sig} wrote:
This is a bit disturbing..


Ew. The picture they use of the fast food doesn't look suitable for ANYONE,
so unappetizing does it appear...

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tristyn
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"i have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.
i do not think that they will sing to me."

Dave {Reply Address in.sig} wrote:
This is a bit disturbing..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3253632.stm

Dave

Nothing I haven't heard before. What's disturbing for me is that HV
themselves sometimes give out bad advice, especially with regards to the
age of weaning, so why they come across as being the fountain of all
knowledge is a bit beyond me.

Mary Ann

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:21:33 +0000, Mary Ann Tuli
wrote:



Dave {Reply Address in.sig} wrote:
This is a bit disturbing..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3253632.stm

Dave

Nothing I haven't heard before. What's disturbing for me is that HV
themselves sometimes give out bad advice, especially with regards to the
age of weaning, so why they come across as being the fountain of all
knowledge is a bit beyond me.

Substitute "health visitor" with "midwife", "doctor", "nurse"...
--
Never knock an idea that started out on the back of a beer mat.
(Colin Pillinger, brains behind Beagle 2.)

Dave {Reply Address in.sig} wrote:
We were still giving Micaela
100% EBM, this other baby was getting popcorn, mini hot dogs in
rolls ("pigs in blankets"), onion quiche (including the crust), and
birthday cake (including the icing).

Provided they were careful with the salt content it might have been
OK.

Well, the quiche would have had egg white - big no-no. Mini hot dogs would
have been a big concern for me because of the high sodium and nitrate
content.

Personally, I'd have been worried about the wheat in the cake and
pig-in-blanket roll, too. And the chokability of popcorn.

--
tristyn
www.tristyn.net
"i have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.
i do not think that they will sing to me."

Dave {Reply Address in.sig} wrote:
This is a bit disturbing..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3253632.stm

Dave

Yes, the fact that there are adults who don't comprehend the meaning of
"boil up some carrots and potatoes, and mash them" is *very* disturbing.

Clisby

Dave {Reply Address in.sig} wrote:
This is a bit disturbing..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3253632.stm


/Gasp of horror

I also followed another link from that page I found
interesting
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2893055.stm
full text copied below
My babies are slow gainers in those first weeks so it makes
me feel a little better :-)


--
Andrea

If I can't be a good example, then I'll just have to be a
horrible warning.


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Early diet 'crucial for babies'

Babies who do not eat much in the first fortnight of life
may be set up for better heart health throughout life.
Trying to get a new baby to put on weight is a natural
parental desire, but research suggests that very rapid
weight gain very early in life may not necessarily be a good
thing.

A study carried out at the Institute of Child Health in
London found that babies who received a "low nutrient" diet
rather than a "nutrient rich" diet in their first days were
healthier as adolescents.
They were less likely to have "insulin resistance", a
symptomless condition strongly associated with an increased
risk of diabetes later in life.

The researchers say that it does not mean that new parents
should actively restrict the diets of their newborns, but
provides more evidence that breastfeeding is the best
possible way to feed them.

New mothers usually produce very small amounts of milk in
the first few days after birth, and even healthy babies tend
to actually lose weight to start with.

But the study suggests this is certainly not harmful, and
may even be beneficial in the longer term. It warned parents
against "overfeeding" newborn babies by giving them large
amounts of formula feed.

Don't starve them

Dr Atul Singhal, who led the study, told BBC News Online:
"This is probably why breastfed babies are less likely to
develop type II diabetes later on.

"The message is not to restrict food in the first few weeks,
but to encourage breastfeeding."

The study was carried out on a sample of premature babies,
but Dr Singhal said the findings were likely to apply to
full-term babies, as this was the case in many other
animals.

He said: "We would not encourage any different treatment of
premature babies.

"There are good reasons why underfeeding of low birthweight
babies is not appropriate."

Lifestyle factors

Professor Michael Lean, Chair of Human Nutrition at the
University of Glasgow, told BBC News Online that even if a
child grew quickly during the first weeks and went on to
develop insulin resistance, they were not fated to develop
diabetes, provided they were not overweight in adulthood and
led a reasonably healthy lifestyle.

He said: "Ultimately it requires that the person gets fat.

"If you remain at the ideal body mass throughout your adult
life you are much less likely to have a problem."

He said that parents were frequently anxious about the
amount their children were eating.

He said: "As long as they are putting on some weight, there
is no problem."

The study was published in the medical journal The Lancet.

"iphigenia" wrote in message
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Dave {Reply Address in.sig} wrote:
We were still giving Micaela
100% EBM, this other baby was getting popcorn, mini hot dogs in
rolls ("pigs in blankets"), onion quiche (including the crust), and
birthday cake (including the icing).

Provided they were careful with the salt content it might have been
OK.


Personally, I'd have been worried about the wheat in the cake and
pig-in-blanket roll, too. And the chokability of popcorn.

--
For a 2 year old child with no allergies? Why would you be concerned about
wheat for someone with no allergies

Marie / wondering if she's missing something critical here?!

Mum of 3
DD born 03/98, DS1 born 11/99 DS2 born 08/03