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Foremilk question
A Breastfeeding 101 question here... about when during a feeding does the
milk transition away from foremilk? We've been having a little OAL over here and I've been expressing into a cloth whenever we get a choking spray, but I'm never really sure how long to do it. Should I just do it until the spray dies down? And does expressing this part of the feeding deprive him of something, so that I should be careful about how much I express? I've been wondering also whether I end up expressing hindmilk as well. Thoughts/info? -- Alpha alphawave at earthlink dot net |
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Alphawave wrote in message ... A Breastfeeding 101 question here... about when during a feeding does the milk transition away from foremilk? We've been having a little OAL over here and I've been expressing into a cloth whenever we get a choking spray, but I'm never really sure how long to do it. Should I just do it until the spray dies down? And does expressing this part of the feeding deprive him of something, so that I should be careful about how much I express? I've been wondering also whether I end up expressing hindmilk as well. Thoughts/info? -- Alpha alphawave at earthlink dot net From what I understand, once letdown happens, all the rest is hindmilk. The foremilk is just what's leftover from the last feed, and anything new you produce is hindmilk. For me, hand expressing wasn't enough (took too long as I had to express too much and by then he was screaming). I ended up pumping between 1.5-2 ounces before 3 feeds a day to get things under control; things were a lot better then. Point being, I doubt you're going to express too much! I would just try doing it until the spray dies down and see if that's enough. Are his poops yellow? If they're green a lot, that indicates he's getting a lot of foremilk. laurie mommy to Jessica, 27 months and Christopher, 13 weeks *This email address is now valid* |
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I have pumped alot because I only pumped not bf for my first dd, and
it all looked the same to me. I always wondered about the hind milk thing since it all looked the same to me. No matter when I stop I always seem to get the same ratio of fat at the top of the bottle. I have tasted it after just expressing a a tiny bit and it tasted more watery than later though, so I am thinking for me the foremilk part is just at the very beginning and hind milk starts coming pretty fast. I have always had supply issues, so perhaps that is why. KC "Shannon G" wrote in message ... I don't have an answer I can back up with any scientific data, only my pumping experience where I can *see* what's coming out. When I am really full, the first 1-2 ozs. are the real bluish, watery foremilk. Then it's skim-milk type combination for 2-3 ozs. After a 2nd letdown is the real whole-milk type fatty hindmilk. If you're trying to just not *serve* the real watery foremilk, I'd wait until you quit spraying. JME. Shannon "Alphawave" wrote in message ... A Breastfeeding 101 question here... about when during a feeding does the milk transition away from foremilk? We've been having a little OAL over here and I've been expressing into a cloth whenever we get a choking spray, but I'm never really sure how long to do it. Should I just do it until the spray dies down? And does expressing this part of the feeding deprive him of something, so that I should be careful about how much I express? I've been wondering also whether I end up expressing hindmilk as well. Thoughts/info? -- Alpha alphawave at earthlink dot net |
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In Alphawave wrote:
A Breastfeeding 101 question here... about when during a feeding does the milk transition away from foremilk? We've been having a little OAL over here and I've been expressing into a cloth whenever we get a choking spray, but I'm never really sure how long to do it. Should I just do it until the spray dies down? And does expressing this part of the feeding deprive him of something, so that I should be careful about how much I express? I've been wondering also whether I end up expressing hindmilk as well. Thoughts/info? -- Alpha alphawave at earthlink dot net Generally speaking, there isn't any set time that the milk moves from foremilk to hindmilk. It's a very gradual transition, really. As a fellow OAL sufferer, I can tell you that you're not depriving him of anything by expressing into a cloth. Usually I don't start seeing the thicker milk until well past the letdown, so I've never worried about it. Besides, that thicker hindmilk is full of all the good stuff! I usually express until the flow slows down to a more manageable drip, if you know what I mean. Now that Elizabeth is getting older, she can handle a faster flow, so it's not an exact science. But when milk is just shooting out (for lack of a better description), I usually use a cloth diaper. I've found that good management of my oversupply/OAL has helped a LOT. And in another month (I'm guessing) I won't have to worry about it at all due to the management techniques and her age. Hope that helps! Meredith |
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"Alphawave" wrote in message ... A Breastfeeding 101 question here... about when during a feeding does the milk transition away from foremilk? We've been having a little OAL over here and I've been expressing into a cloth whenever we get a choking spray, but I'm never really sure how long to do it. Should I just do it until the spray dies down? And does expressing this part of the feeding deprive him of something, so that I should be careful about how much I express? I've been wondering also whether I end up expressing hindmilk as well. Thoughts/info? -- Alpha alphawave at earthlink dot net additional question: does expressing add to the "demand" therefore making me supply even more...the never ending viscous cycle... Edith |
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Meredith says:
As a fellow OAL sufferer, I can tell you that you're not depriving him of anything by expressing into a cloth. Usually I don't start seeing the thicker milk until well past the letdown, so I've never worried about it. Thanks, this is good to know. It sort of goes against the grain to just let breastmilk be wasted, you know? I've found that good management of my oversupply/OAL has helped a LOT. And in another month (I'm guessing) I won't have to worry about it at all due to the management techniques and her age. About what age can a baby handle the faster flow of OAL? -- Alpha alphawave at earthlink dot net |
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Edith says:
does expressing add to the "demand" therefore making me supply even more... Things I read online suggested that if you offer only one breast per feeding (and use the same breast for each subsequent feeding that might happen in the 4 hours after), you help your body adjust production. So I guess letting the spray go into a cloth doesn't end up creating too much more demand, as long as you don't stimulate both breasts at each feeding. -- Alpha alphawave at earthlink dot net |
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Alphawave wrote: Laurie says: From what I understand, once letdown happens, all the rest is hindmilk. I spent the last couple of days really taking a hard look at what's going on when I nurse and when I pump. I get letdown after only a short while of nursing, and it comes with a gusto. I get letdown for the pump a little later than with nursing, but it also comes on strong once it does come. And it seems to me like what you're saying about letdown bringing on the hindmilk is pretty much the way it is for me. So that's handy to know. It's not so much that it "brings on the hindmilk" as that the milk you've been pumping prior to letdown is mostly stored milk that has had the fat resorbed, and the "letdown" milk is the milk produced on the spot, with the full complement of fat. foremilk/hindmilk is kind of an artificial concept, your body doesn't produce two kinds of milk. Dawn |
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In Alphawave wrote:
Meredith says: As a fellow OAL sufferer, I can tell you that you're not depriving him of anything by expressing into a cloth. Usually I don't start seeing the thicker milk until well past the letdown, so I've never worried about it. Thanks, this is good to know. It sort of goes against the grain to just let breastmilk be wasted, you know? I've found that good management of my oversupply/OAL has helped a LOT. And in another month (I'm guessing) I won't have to worry about it at all due to the management techniques and her age. About what age can a baby handle the faster flow of OAL? It does go against the grain to not use breastmilk, I agree! At one point I thought about saving it, since my letdowns often produce an ounce or more, but then I realized that all that watery foremilk would just upset her tummy anyway. As far as when they can handle the letdown, it probably depends on age. It seems like with my first, since I didn't do anything to try to reduce supply, it took much longer for him to handle letdowns with ease. Maybe six months? And I leaked during feedings for well over a year. This time around, since I've taken steps to reduce supply, Elizabeth is handling letdown really well now at four months and I usually don't leak on the other side unless I've gone a long time between feedings. Meredith |
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