Child Custody - parent's name not on birth certificate.

Hello:

In regard to custody of a child. My wife's child is no one years old,
but I'm not the legal father of the child. The biological father
decided for over a year that he didn't want to take any part in the
child's life and avoided paying any child support. My wife decided not
to pursue him paying child support and let issue be.

He declined to sign any papers for child support and verbally told my
wife that he doesn't care to give up his parental rights, so now the
biological father wants to be in my wife's child's life? If he
declined to sign the papers for child support and never proved himself
as the biological father, what rights does he have now?

Currently, the biological father's name isn't on the birth certificate.


Regards,

--concerned person

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Hello:

In regard to custody of a child. My wife's child is no one years old,
but I'm not the legal father of the child. The biological father
decided for over a year that he didn't want to take any part in the
child's life and avoided paying any child support. My wife decided not
to pursue him paying child support and let issue be.

He declined to sign any papers for child support and verbally told my
wife that he doesn't care to give up his parental rights, so now the
biological father wants to be in my wife's child's life? If he
declined to sign the papers for child support and never proved himself
as the biological father, what rights does he have now?
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If he is the biological father he should have rights. Were you married when
the baby was born?
Child support has nothing to do with parental rights.
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Well unforantly if he can be proven to be the Biological father, he
has every right to be in the childs life. And along with it though the
assumption that he is trying to be a responsible parent and pay child
support.. visit.. ext..

If your wife has Sole Custody of the child there really isn't much
you need to worry about anyways, as she would be one who dictates the
people in the childs life. I would simply tell the guy, if he wants to
be a father.. then do so... but just do it.. and in all regards. And
also threaten to take him to court for CS. That might make him blink.

SpiderHam77

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Well unforantly if he can be proven to be the Biological father, he
has every right to be in the childs life. And along with it though the
assumption that he is trying to be a responsible parent and pay child
support.. visit.. ext..

If your wife has Sole Custody of the child there really isn't much
you need to worry about anyways, as she would be one who dictates the
people in the childs life. I would simply tell the guy, if he wants to
be a father.. then do so... but just do it.. and in all regards. And
also threaten to take him to court for CS. That might make him blink.
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Why do you wish to drive a father from his child's life?
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Gini wrote:
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Why do you wish to drive a father from his child's life?
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Who said anything about trying to drive a father from his childs
life. All I was talking about is if this guy doesn't want to act like
a father... and someone is willing to fill those shoes, then why not.

I agree fathers do have rights.. But with such rights comes
responsibities.. As a "Parent" our right is to have free access to our
child. But in order to have this right, you have to first show an
intrest in wanting to have something to with your child. You can lead
a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink.

Your not a parent just when you decide to come around to the notion.
Trust me there are days I would love to just push my son aside, and do
something different. But my first responsibility is to my son, and
ensuring that he cared for. Regardless of my feels on that day.

SpiderHam77

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Gini wrote:
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Why do you wish to drive a father from his child's life?
==

Who said anything about trying to drive a father from his childs
life. All I was talking about is if this guy doesn't want to act like
a father... and someone is willing to fill those shoes, then why not.

I agree fathers do have rights.. But with such rights comes
responsibities.. As a "Parent" our right is to have free access to our
child. But in order to have this right, you have to first show an
intrest in wanting to have something to with your child. You can lead
a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink.

Your not a parent just when you decide to come around to the notion.
Trust me there are days I would love to just push my son aside, and do
something different. But my first responsibility is to my son, and
ensuring that he cared for. Regardless of my feels on that day.

SpiderHam77

And just what do you propose to do when the state steps in and makes it
impossible for a parent to exercise their rights?

Why do you wish to drive a father from his child's life?

Who said anything about trying to drive a father from his childs
life. All I was talking about is if this guy doesn't give lots of
money to his ex then he is not acting like
a father... and someone is willing to help the ex to spent this
money then why not.

Because impoverishment of the father, in addition to oppressing
him also abuses the children.

I agree fathers do have rights.. But with such rights comes
the responsibity to guarentee the same lifestyle or better
to their ex. As a father our right is to have costly access to our
child. But in order to have this right, you have to first show a
bank account getting a lot of interest. You can lead
a horse to water, but if it doesn't **** wine you have to whip it
until it does...or dies.

Huh?

Your not a parent just when you decide to come around to the notion.
Your a parent when you turn over enough money to the mom.
Trust me there are days I would love to just push my son aside, and
feed my hunger by using some money I make to buy myself a meal.
But a man's first responsibility is to his children, and therefore
ensuring that their mom is cared for. Regardless of my feels on that
day.

I have to disagree. You, and those in charge, are too focused on
money and see child custody as for fun and profit.

"SpiderHam77" wrote in message
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Gini wrote:
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Why do you wish to drive a father from his child's life?
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Who said anything about trying to drive a father from his childs
life. All I was talking about is if this guy doesn't want to act like
a father...
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Umm...The poster states the father *wishes* to be involved in the child's
life.
The poster asks how to interfere with that.
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Dusty wrote:

And just what do you propose to do when the state steps in and makes it
impossible for a parent to exercise their rights?

First of all... I have no idea how the state would make it
impossible for this guy to be a father.. The Poster is saying the guy
has never taken an interest. Nothing to do with the state forcing him
one way or the other.

SpiderHam77

abdd wrote:
Why do you wish to drive a father from his child's life?

Who said anything about trying to drive a father from his childs
life. All I was talking about is if this guy doesn't give lots of
money to his ex then he is not acting like
a father... and someone is willing to help the ex to spent this
money then why not.

First of all... don't quote somone, and missquote them. Not half of
it, followed by an altered version of it. I don't mind people
disagreeing with what I said, I just don't like people putting words
into my mouth that I never used. The correct Paragrph that writer was
trying to quote is.

Who said anything about trying to drive a father from his childs
life. All I was talking about is if this guy doesn't want to act like
a father... and someone is willing to fill those shoes, then why not.


Because impoverishment of the father, in addition to oppressing
him also abuses the children.

I agree fathers do have rights.. But with such rights comes
the responsibity to guarentee the same lifestyle or better
to their ex. As a father our right is to have costly access to our
child. But in order to have this right, you have to first show a
bank account getting a lot of interest. You can lead
a horse to water, but if it doesn't **** wine you have to whip it
until it does...or dies.

Again another mis quote.. no wonder your confused, your stumbling
over your own words. Try reading what was actually typed again.

I agree fathers do have rights.. But with such rights comes
responsibities.. As a "Parent" our right is to have free access to our
child. But in order to have this right, you have to first show an
intrest in wanting to have something to with your child. You can lead
a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink.

Your not a parent just when you decide to come around to the notion.
Your a parent when you turn over enough money to the mom.
Trust me there are days I would love to just push my son aside, and
feed my hunger by using some money I make to buy myself a meal.
But a man's first responsibility is to his children, and therefore
ensuring that their mom is cared for. Regardless of my feels on that
day.

Almost... Again your adding your own words into the quote... here is
the correct quote again.

Your not a parent just when you decide to come around to the notion.
Trust me there are days I would love to just push my son aside, and do
something different. But my first responsibility is to my son, and
ensuring that he cared for. Regardless of my feels on that day


I have to disagree. You, and those in charge, are too focused on
money and see child custody as for fun and profit.

And how am I focused on money... All I have suggested is that this
guy hasn't taken an interest in his childs life in a year of it being
alive. How long do we wait for a parent to decide to be a parent.

If the Bio-Dad wants to be a father to his children, then by all
means I fully encourage that. But you just don't chose which aspects
of parenthood you want, and which you don't. It's a full package
deal..

SpiderHam77