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  #21  
Old July 12th 07, 07:17 AM posted to alt.child-support
Chris
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"Lyn Simpkins" wrote in message
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I have 2 questions about Child support.
I live in WV but originally from Ohio.
I have had to get my Daughter on public assistance ( Medicaid card) and
they have helped me try to get child support for her as they always do
when u apply for any type of public assistance. Just recently they have
told me that the state of Ohio has declared him disabled and they can
not pursue it any further, he's no more disabled than me but that's
beside the point, Can my daughter get a check because of him being
disabled? If so, what do I have to do to get this started?
And also, If you were found to be the father of a child through DNA, is
there a thing where u can actually sign away all rights to that child
and any obligation to child support?


Not in a MILLION years! ONLY mothers have such rights...................
next.




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Old July 12th 07, 07:17 AM posted to alt.child-support
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"Lyn Simpkins" wrote in message
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Yea, he is a jerk.


Make sure you tell your daughter that.

She hardly remembers him. She asks questions every
once in a blue moon but for the most part, I never talk about him, never
even bring his name up, I don't want her to think the reason he doesn't
come around is because she has done something to offend him. I never
want her to think it's her fault at all!!!



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Old July 12th 07, 07:29 AM posted to alt.child-support
teachrmama
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"Chris" wrote in message
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"Lyn Simpkins" wrote in message
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Yea, he is a jerk.


Make sure you tell your daughter that.


Did you read the whole thread, Chris. THEY planned for the child together.
THEY cared for her together for 4 years. Then he walked out. I would love
it if you would justify a man having the right to ditch a child because he
decides that he no longer wants to be a father. There is definitely merit
to the demand for equal post conception rights for men and women. But the
idea of one gender being able to walk away from a child that already exists
and and relationship is already established is repugnant. The whole CS
system can go hang--it is a rotten, self-serving system. But CHILDREN
deserve better than that!!


She hardly remembers him. She asks questions every
once in a blue moon but for the most part, I never talk about him, never
even bring his name up, I don't want her to think the reason he doesn't
come around is because she has done something to offend him. I never
want her to think it's her fault at all!!!





  #24  
Old July 12th 07, 07:31 AM posted to alt.child-support
teachrmama
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"Chris" wrote in message
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"Lyn Simpkins" wrote in message
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Whatamess!
Yea, you could say that again. Actually it was just a question I had and
somehow it seems like I am "Harrassing" her father, I don't get it.
He hasn't paid a dime for her ANY!!! Not a cent! I have worked my entire
life to support her, When child support went after him that's when he
claimed disability for what ever reason. He walked out of her life 7
years ago and hasn't looked back, he can not claim we moved as we stayed
in the same house for 4 years after that. And also, I never claimed to
be "rich" or needy, but if it's your sperm then you should damn well
take care of it. Disabled or not!


Once he donated his sperm to you, what you chose to do with it was your
SOLE
choice.


On the contrary, Chris, THEY decided to raise a child. HE copped out after
4 years.


  #25  
Old July 13th 07, 02:59 PM posted to alt.child-support
Chris
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"teachrmama" wrote in message
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"Chris" wrote in message
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"Lyn Simpkins" wrote in message
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Whatamess!
Yea, you could say that again. Actually it was just a question I had

and
somehow it seems like I am "Harrassing" her father, I don't get it.
He hasn't paid a dime for her ANY!!! Not a cent! I have worked my

entire
life to support her, When child support went after him that's when he
claimed disability for what ever reason. He walked out of her life 7
years ago and hasn't looked back, he can not claim we moved as we

stayed
in the same house for 4 years after that. And also, I never claimed to
be "rich" or needy, but if it's your sperm then you should damn well
take care of it. Disabled or not!


Once he donated his sperm to you, what you chose to do with it was your
SOLE
choice.


On the contrary, Chris, THEY decided to raise a child. HE copped out

after
4 years.


Uhuh. Another woman could ALSO decide to raise a child with her and cop out
after 4 years. Where's HER sperm?





  #26  
Old July 13th 07, 03:06 PM posted to alt.child-support
Chris
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"teachrmama" wrote in message
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"Chris" wrote in message
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"Lyn Simpkins" wrote in message
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Yea, he is a jerk.


Make sure you tell your daughter that.


Did you read the whole thread, Chris. THEY planned for the child

together.
THEY cared for her together for 4 years. Then he walked out. I would

love
it if you would justify a man having the right to ditch a child because he
decides that he no longer wants to be a father. There is definitely merit
to the demand for equal post conception rights for men and women. But the
idea of one gender being able to walk away from a child that already

exists
and and relationship is already established is repugnant. The whole CS
system can go hang--it is a rotten, self-serving system. But CHILDREN
deserve better than that!!


Yes, I did read all of it. Problem is, you are presenting a double standard.
Either a man IS the father with ALL and EQUAL parental rights to the mother,
or he is is NOT. Take your pick.



She hardly remembers him. She asks questions every
once in a blue moon but for the most part, I never talk about him,

never
even bring his name up, I don't want her to think the reason he doesn't
come around is because she has done something to offend him. I never
want her to think it's her fault at all!!!







  #27  
Old July 13th 07, 05:16 PM posted to alt.child-support
teachrmama
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"Chris" wrote in message
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"teachrmama" wrote in message
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"Chris" wrote in message
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"Lyn Simpkins" wrote in message
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Yea, he is a jerk.

Make sure you tell your daughter that.


Did you read the whole thread, Chris. THEY planned for the child

together.
THEY cared for her together for 4 years. Then he walked out. I would

love
it if you would justify a man having the right to ditch a child because
he
decides that he no longer wants to be a father. There is definitely
merit
to the demand for equal post conception rights for men and women. But
the
idea of one gender being able to walk away from a child that already

exists
and and relationship is already established is repugnant. The whole CS
system can go hang--it is a rotten, self-serving system. But CHILDREN
deserve better than that!!


Yes, I did read all of it. Problem is, you are presenting a double
standard.
Either a man IS the father with ALL and EQUAL parental rights to the
mother,
or he is is NOT. Take your pick.


And he was the father with equal rights--HE CHOSE to walk out. So, if he
walks out, she is supposed to stand the child on the stresst corner and not
carefor her 50% of the time because that is "his time" whether he takes it
of not? What SHOULD have happened in this case? How would YOU handle it?





She hardly remembers him. She asks questions every
once in a blue moon but for the most part, I never talk about him,

never
even bring his name up, I don't want her to think the reason he
doesn't
come around is because she has done something to offend him. I never
want her to think it's her fault at all!!!









  #28  
Old July 13th 07, 06:17 PM posted to alt.child-support
teachrmama
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"Chris" wrote in message
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"teachrmama" wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
...

"Lyn Simpkins" wrote in message
...
Whatamess!
Yea, you could say that again. Actually it was just a question I had

and
somehow it seems like I am "Harrassing" her father, I don't get it.
He hasn't paid a dime for her ANY!!! Not a cent! I have worked my

entire
life to support her, When child support went after him that's when he
claimed disability for what ever reason. He walked out of her life 7
years ago and hasn't looked back, he can not claim we moved as we

stayed
in the same house for 4 years after that. And also, I never claimed to
be "rich" or needy, but if it's your sperm then you should damn well
take care of it. Disabled or not!

Once he donated his sperm to you, what you chose to do with it was your
SOLE
choice.


On the contrary, Chris, THEY decided to raise a child. HE copped out

after
4 years.


Uhuh. Another woman could ALSO decide to raise a child with her and cop
out
after 4 years. Where's HER sperm?


You'll have to point out to me where I mentioned sperm, Chris. I said THEY
decided to raise the child together then he copped out. It wasn't her
unilateral decision. As you well know, I DO agree with you about equitable
post conception choices for both men and women. But after 4 years, we are
no longer talking "post comception," except in its broadest sense.


  #29  
Old July 13th 07, 07:35 PM posted to alt.child-support
Chris
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"teachrmama" wrote in message
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"Chris" wrote in message
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"teachrmama" wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
...

"Lyn Simpkins" wrote in message
...
Yea, he is a jerk.

Make sure you tell your daughter that.

Did you read the whole thread, Chris. THEY planned for the child

together.
THEY cared for her together for 4 years. Then he walked out. I would

love
it if you would justify a man having the right to ditch a child because
he
decides that he no longer wants to be a father. There is definitely
merit
to the demand for equal post conception rights for men and women. But
the
idea of one gender being able to walk away from a child that already

exists
and and relationship is already established is repugnant. The whole CS
system can go hang--it is a rotten, self-serving system. But CHILDREN
deserve better than that!!


Yes, I did read all of it. Problem is, you are presenting a double
standard.
Either a man IS the father with ALL and EQUAL parental rights to the
mother,
or he is is NOT. Take your pick.


And he was the father with equal rights--


But WAS he? This may only be a strange figment of my imagination, but
something tells me that a father's rights (if any) are FAR inferior to a
mother's rights. Of course the legal system has no bearing on this bizarre
illusion of mine, does it...........

HE CHOSE to walk out. So, if he
walks out, she is supposed to stand the child on the stresst corner and

not
carefor her 50% of the time because that is "his time" whether he takes it
of not? What SHOULD have happened in this case? How would YOU handle it?


(see above)






She hardly remembers him. She asks questions every
once in a blue moon but for the most part, I never talk about him,

never
even bring his name up, I don't want her to think the reason he
doesn't
come around is because she has done something to offend him. I never
want her to think it's her fault at all!!!











  #30  
Old July 13th 07, 08:00 PM posted to alt.child-support
teachrmama
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"Chris" wrote in message
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"teachrmama" wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
...

"teachrmama" wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
...

"Lyn Simpkins" wrote in message
...
Yea, he is a jerk.

Make sure you tell your daughter that.

Did you read the whole thread, Chris. THEY planned for the child
together.
THEY cared for her together for 4 years. Then he walked out. I would
love
it if you would justify a man having the right to ditch a child
because
he
decides that he no longer wants to be a father. There is definitely
merit
to the demand for equal post conception rights for men and women. But
the
idea of one gender being able to walk away from a child that already
exists
and and relationship is already established is repugnant. The whole
CS
system can go hang--it is a rotten, self-serving system. But CHILDREN
deserve better than that!!

Yes, I did read all of it. Problem is, you are presenting a double
standard.
Either a man IS the father with ALL and EQUAL parental rights to the
mother,
or he is is NOT. Take your pick.


And he was the father with equal rights--


But WAS he? This may only be a strange figment of my imagination, but
something tells me that a father's rights (if any) are FAR inferior to a
mother's rights. Of course the legal system has no bearing on this bizarre
illusion of mine, does it...........


Chris--they were together--BOTH were parenting the child. HE walked out.
Why is it ok for him to walk out? Surely you are not using the legal system
that you so despise as an excuse to say that a man should be able to walk
away from responsibilities that he CHOSE to undertake toward a child that he
CHOSE to help create? Do you really think that the CS system as it now
stands makes it ok to abandon your own child? (Bear in mind that in this
case, the man was NOT forced out of his child's life--he walked away)



 




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