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Old October 30th 07, 08:40 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine
Yuri Kuchinsky
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Default reliable autism stats?


Greetings, all,

Everywhere in the US media, the current prevalence of autism is typically
cited at 1 in 150, or thereabouts. Now, of course this is bad enough,
considering that this disease was almost unknown a generation ago...

But according to Gallup and Yazbak,

"When 1 in 150 is really 1 in 67"
By Raymond W. Gallup & F. Edward Yazbak, MD, FAAP
http://www.vaproject.org/yazbak/1-in...7-20071005.htm

this rate, based on a widely published CDC estimate, is severely
underestimated. As Gallup and Yazbak show, the numbers as recently published
by the U.S. Department of Education should be seen as far more reliable.

[quote]

The U.S. Department of Education has recently released the official figures
for autism/ASD by age and state for school year 2006-2007, in accordance
with the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act's requirement that
comprehensive annual reports be published and presented to the United States
Congress.

[unquote]

And so, it looks like the real rate of autism in the US is close to 1 in
67 -- more than twice of what the CDC says, and of what the corporate media
repeats.

[quote]

....it is likely that among children born in 2000 who are now registered in
U.S. schools, the prevalence rate of autistic spectral disorders is around 1
in 67, on average. Now that would be a catastrophe of unprecedented
proportions.

[unquote]

So it sure seems like, besides professing to be quite ignorant about the
cause of autism, the US medical authorities also don't even know how much
autism is out there!

Ignorance and incompetence, that's modern medicine for you in a nutshell...

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -- http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku

"The only safe vaccine is one that is never used." -- Dr. James R. Shannon,
former director of the National Institute of Health (US).


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Old October 30th 07, 08:50 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine
Kurt Ullman
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Default reliable autism stats?

In article ,
"Yuri Kuchinsky" wrote:

Greetings, all,

Everywhere in the US media, the current prevalence of autism is typically
cited at 1 in 150, or thereabouts. Now, of course this is bad enough,
considering that this disease was almost unknown a generation ago...


Actually it WAS unknown a generation ago. There were no diagnostic
criteria.
  #3  
Old October 31st 07, 02:41 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine
Mark Probert
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Default reliable autism stats?

Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,
"Yuri Kuchinsky" wrote:

Greetings, all,

Everywhere in the US media, the current prevalence of autism is typically
cited at 1 in 150, or thereabouts. Now, of course this is bad enough,
considering that this disease was almost unknown a generation ago...


Actually it WAS unknown a generation ago. There were no diagnostic
criteria.


Actually, it was known, but called other things. Autism was identified
many years ago, more than a generation.

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Old November 1st 07, 03:24 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine
Yuri Kuchinsky
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Default reliable autism stats?


"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Yuri Kuchinsky" wrote:

Greetings, all,

Everywhere in the US media, the current prevalence of autism is typically
cited at 1 in 150, or thereabouts. Now, of course this is bad enough,
considering that this disease was almost unknown a generation ago...


Actually it WAS unknown a generation ago. There were no diagnostic
criteria.


There's been a massive increase in autism in the last 30 years. And now,
according to Gallup and Yazbak, the prevalence of autism in the US is 1 in
67!

"When 1 in 150 is really 1 in 67"
By Raymond W. Gallup & F. Edward Yazbak, MD, FAAP
http://www.vaproject.org/yazbak/1-in...7-20071005.htm

This is a terrible tragedy.

So what is the cause of autism? How come the official medicine is clueless?

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -- http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku

"I have not seen autism with the Amish," said Dr. Frank Noonan, a family
practitioner in Lancaster County, Pa., who has treated thousands of Amish
for a quarter-century. "You'll find all the other stuff, but we don't find
the autism. We're right in the heart of Amish country and seeing none, and
that's just the way it is."


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Old November 2nd 07, 03:26 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine
Mark Probert
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Default reliable autism stats?

Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Yuri Kuchinsky" wrote:

Greetings, all,

Everywhere in the US media, the current prevalence of autism is typically
cited at 1 in 150, or thereabouts. Now, of course this is bad enough,
considering that this disease was almost unknown a generation ago...

Actually it WAS unknown a generation ago. There were no diagnostic
criteria.


There's been a massive increase in autism in the last 30 years. And now,
according to Gallup and Yazbak, the prevalence of autism in the US is 1 in
67!


Incorrect. There has been a massive broadening of the diagnostic
criteria, recognition that Autism is a spectrum disorder, and
significant diagnostic re-assignment.


"When 1 in 150 is really 1 in 67"
By Raymond W. Gallup & F. Edward Yazbak, MD, FAAP
http://www.vaproject.org/yazbak/1-in...7-20071005.htm

This is a terrible tragedy.

So what is the cause of autism? How come the official medicine is clueless?

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -- http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku

"I have not seen autism with the Amish," said Dr. Frank Noonan, a family
practitioner in Lancaster County, Pa., who has treated thousands of Amish
for a quarter-century. "You'll find all the other stuff, but we don't find
the autism. We're right in the heart of Amish country and seeing none, and
that's just the way it is."


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Old November 2nd 07, 06:11 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine
SanHolo
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Default reliable autism stats?

On Nov 1, 4:24 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" wrote:

So what is the cause of autism? How come the official medicine is clueless?


Take a look at the definitions of autism; as with many other
psychiatric disorders, it is very difficult to identify what's causing
them. You can't see anything like you see a brain tumor, you can't
measure anything like you can measure your blood pressure, there are
no comprehensible risk factors like obesity or smoking.

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Old November 2nd 07, 06:22 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine
Kevysmom[_2_]
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Default reliable autism stats?

there are
no comprehensible risk factors like obesity or smoking.


Risk factor.....Vaccines.


On Nov 2, 2:11 pm, SanHolo wrote:
On Nov 1, 4:24 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" wrote:



So what is the cause of autism? How come the official medicine is clueless?


Take a look at the definitions of autism; as with many other
psychiatric disorders, it is very difficult to identify what's causing
them. You can't see anything like you see a brain tumor, you can't
measure anything like you can measure your blood pressure, there are
no comprehensible risk factors like obesity or smoking.



  #8  
Old November 2nd 07, 06:25 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine
Kevysmom[_2_]
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Default reliable autism stats?

Incorrect. There has been a massive broadening of the diagnostic
criteria, recognition that Autism is a spectrum disorder, and
significant diagnostic re-assignment.



So the CDC reports that 1 out of 6 children in the USA now has some
form of developmental disorder is
bogus? You dont think that having 1 out of 6 children in your country
is a crisis? An epidemic?


On Nov 1, 11:26 pm, Mark Probert wrote:
Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Yuri Kuchinsky" wrote:


Greetings, all,


Everywhere in the US media, the current prevalence of autism is typically
cited at 1 in 150, or thereabouts. Now, of course this is bad enough,
considering that this disease was almost unknown a generation ago...
Actually it WAS unknown a generation ago. There were no diagnostic
criteria.


There's been a massive increase in autism in the last 30 years. And now,
according to Gallup and Yazbak, the prevalence of autism in the US is 1 in
67!


Incorrect. There has been a massive broadening of the diagnostic
criteria, recognition that Autism is a spectrum disorder, and
significant diagnostic re-assignment.





"When 1 in 150 is really 1 in 67"
By Raymond W. Gallup & F. Edward Yazbak, MD, FAAP
http://www.vaproject.org/yazbak/1-in...7-20071005.htm


This is a terrible tragedy.


So what is the cause of autism? How come the official medicine is clueless?


Yuri.


Yuri Kuchinsky --http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku


"I have not seen autism with the Amish," said Dr. Frank Noonan, a family
practitioner in Lancaster County, Pa., who has treated thousands of Amish
for a quarter-century. "You'll find all the other stuff, but we don't find
the autism. We're right in the heart of Amish country and seeing none, and
that's just the way it is."- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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Old November 2nd 07, 06:29 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine
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Default reliable autism stats?

On Nov 2, 2:11 pm, SanHolo wrote:
On Nov 1, 4:24 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" wrote:



So what is the cause of autism? How come the official medicine is clueless?


Take a look at the definitions of autism; as with many other
psychiatric disorders, it is very difficult to identify what's causing
them. You can't see anything like you see a brain tumor, you can't
measure anything like you can measure your blood pressure, there are
no comprehensible risk factors like obesity or smoking.


How about checking the toxic metal load ( Hg and Al ) the child is
experiencing?
How about the porphorin blood test?

These are measurable and testable.

You could then add mercury excretion levels and then the levels
following chelation challenge.

I agree you will never find a particular disease if you never look for
the most probable cause.
Since Hg and Al cause physical brain damage, a psychiatrist is the
last person to look to for
real and resonable answers.

DrCee
Not a member of the medical monopoly
Not a member of the church of modern medicine

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Old November 2nd 07, 07:30 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,talk.politics.medicine
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On Nov 2, 1:11 pm, SanHolo wrote:
Take a look at the definitions of autism; as with many other
psychiatric disorders, it is very difficult to identify what's causing
them. You can't see anything like you see a brain tumor, you can't
measure anything like you can measure your blood pressure, there are
no comprehensible risk factors like obesity or smoking.


Actually, it appears that you can measure biochemical abnormalities
associated with autism. See: http://hriptc.org/metal_autism.html

Ed Friedman


 




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