Flunking for profit

Just curious:

How many times can a mother encourage her children to flunk in school in
order to prolong the free income from "child support"?

Chris wrote:
Just curious:

How many times can a mother encourage her children to flunk in school in
order to prolong the free income from "child support"?


I don't know, but one thing's for certain, if you can get actual proof
that she's doing this, I'd be down there at the court filing for a
change of custody because of child abuse.

On Jun 25, 9:01 am, John Meyer wrote:
Chris wrote:
Just curious:

How many times can a mother encourage her children to flunk in school in
order to prolong the free income from "child support"?

I don't know, but one thing's for certain, if you can get actual proof
that she's doing this, I'd be down there at the court filing for a
change of custody because of child abuse.

Even if you get proof, I can assure you the courts will say that "it's
in the best
interest of the child" to continue to support him to ensure he gets at
least
a high school education...

And also, there's a fine line between encouraging them to fail, and
being
so neglectful that they continue to fail...sadly, the courts will see
a HUGE
line between these two as well...of course, all in the best interest
of the
child.

whatamess SMOM to
SD 12, 5th grade (hope she passed this time, still unknown), with
myspace page stating she's 16...public page...with 15-16 yr old
boyfriend...
yipee!

whatamess wrote:
On Jun 25, 9:01 am, John Meyer wrote:
Chris wrote:
Just curious:
How many times can a mother encourage her children to flunk in school in
order to prolong the free income from "child support"?
I don't know, but one thing's for certain, if you can get actual proof
that she's doing this, I'd be down there at the court filing for a
change of custody because of child abuse.

Even if you get proof, I can assure you the courts will say that "it's
in the best
interest of the child" to continue to support him to ensure he gets at
least
a high school education...

And also, there's a fine line between encouraging them to fail, and
being
so neglectful that they continue to fail...sadly, the courts will see
a HUGE
line between these two as well...of course, all in the best interest
of the
child.


You know what, you may be right. The courts may say all of this stuff
even if it is shown that the mother is passed out drunk when the kids
get off school and that they really shouldn't be yanked from their
mother during the tender years. But you know what that is preferable
to? It is preferable to the courts not having to say that because you
didn't bring it forward and the public being able to write this off as
one-sided, typical selfish behavior.
So bring it forward, gather all the evidence, and if the courts rule
that way, post it all online along with their ruling. If you don't know
how to post up recordings of video calls I'll help and I'm sure there
are other people on this list who have the technical knowhow to do so.
If you can't scan it, send it on to one of us and we'll do it. Scan it
all, publish it all, and post it all, because if I am going to curse the
darkness I'd like to leave an objective record that others can see. So
Chris, if you have the records, post them on up and let the world decide.

On Jun 25, 12:29 pm, John Meyer wrote:
whatamess wrote:
On Jun 25, 9:01 am, John Meyer wrote:
Chris wrote:
Just curious:
How many times can a mother encourage her children to flunk in school in
order to prolong the free income from "child support"?
I don't know, but one thing's for certain, if you can get actual proof
that she's doing this, I'd be down there at the court filing for a
change of custody because of child abuse.

Even if you get proof, I can assure you the courts will say that "it's
in the best
interest of the child" to continue to support him to ensure he gets at
least
a high school education...

And also, there's a fine line between encouraging them to fail, and
being
so neglectful that they continue to fail...sadly, the courts will see
a HUGE
line between these two as well...of course, all in the best interest
of the
child.

You know what, you may be right. The courts may say all of this stuff
even if it is shown that the mother is passed out drunk when the kids
get off school and that they really shouldn't be yanked from their
mother during the tender years. But you know what that is preferable
to? It is preferable to the courts not having to say that because you
didn't bring it forward and the public being able to write this off as
one-sided, typical selfish behavior.
So bring it forward, gather all the evidence, and if the courts rule
that way, post it all online along with their ruling. If you don't know
how to post up recordings of video calls I'll help and I'm sure there
are other people on this list who have the technical knowhow to do so.
If you can't scan it, send it on to one of us and we'll do it. Scan it
all, publish it all, and post it all, because if I am going to curse the
darkness I'd like to leave an objective record that others can see. So
Chris, if you have the records, post them on up and let the world decide.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I do agree with you John, I was simply stating what the courts will
probably do...

"whatamess" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jun 25, 12:29 pm, John Meyer wrote:
whatamess wrote:
On Jun 25, 9:01 am, John Meyer wrote:
Chris wrote:
Just curious:
How many times can a mother encourage her children to flunk in
school in
order to prolong the free income from "child support"?
I don't know, but one thing's for certain, if you can get actual
proof
that she's doing this, I'd be down there at the court filing for a
change of custody because of child abuse.

Even if you get proof, I can assure you the courts will say that "it's
in the best
interest of the child" to continue to support him to ensure he gets at
least
a high school education...

And also, there's a fine line between encouraging them to fail, and
being
so neglectful that they continue to fail...sadly, the courts will see
a HUGE
line between these two as well...of course, all in the best interest
of the
child.

You know what, you may be right. The courts may say all of this stuff
even if it is shown that the mother is passed out drunk when the kids
get off school and that they really shouldn't be yanked from their
mother during the tender years. But you know what that is preferable
to? It is preferable to the courts not having to say that because you
didn't bring it forward and the public being able to write this off as
one-sided, typical selfish behavior.
So bring it forward, gather all the evidence, and if the courts rule
that way, post it all online along with their ruling. If you don't know
how to post up recordings of video calls I'll help and I'm sure there
are other people on this list who have the technical knowhow to do so.
If you can't scan it, send it on to one of us and we'll do it. Scan it
all, publish it all, and post it all, because if I am going to curse the
darkness I'd like to leave an objective record that others can see. So
Chris, if you have the records, post them on up and let the world
decide.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I do agree with you John, I was simply stating what the courts will
probably do...

I've always wondered how the courts would treat a child dropping out of high
school and then enrolling in a community college program to get a GED. Does
anyone have any experience with that scenario and how it relates to the CS
high school/age limits laws?

whatamess wrote:
On Jun 25, 12:29 pm, John Meyer wrote:
whatamess wrote:
On Jun 25, 9:01 am, John Meyer wrote:
Chris wrote:
Just curious:
How many times can a mother encourage her children to flunk in school in
order to prolong the free income from "child support"?
I don't know, but one thing's for certain, if you can get actual proof
that she's doing this, I'd be down there at the court filing for a
change of custody because of child abuse.
Even if you get proof, I can assure you the courts will say that "it's
in the best
interest of the child" to continue to support him to ensure he gets at
least
a high school education...
And also, there's a fine line between encouraging them to fail, and
being
so neglectful that they continue to fail...sadly, the courts will see
a HUGE
line between these two as well...of course, all in the best interest
of the
child.
You know what, you may be right. The courts may say all of this stuff
even if it is shown that the mother is passed out drunk when the kids
get off school and that they really shouldn't be yanked from their
mother during the tender years. But you know what that is preferable
to? It is preferable to the courts not having to say that because you
didn't bring it forward and the public being able to write this off as
one-sided, typical selfish behavior.
So bring it forward, gather all the evidence, and if the courts rule
that way, post it all online along with their ruling. If you don't know
how to post up recordings of video calls I'll help and I'm sure there
are other people on this list who have the technical knowhow to do so.
If you can't scan it, send it on to one of us and we'll do it. Scan it
all, publish it all, and post it all, because if I am going to curse the
darkness I'd like to leave an objective record that others can see. So
Chris, if you have the records, post them on up and let the world decide.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I do agree with you John, I was simply stating what the courts will
probably do...


and it's hard to do, but sometimes we have to do it even when we know
what the courts will do precisely for that point. So that there is a
record that every man and woman will see that we put the case before the
courts and that was there response.

"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
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"whatamess" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jun 25, 12:29 pm, John Meyer wrote:
whatamess wrote:
On Jun 25, 9:01 am, John Meyer wrote:
Chris wrote:
Just curious:
How many times can a mother encourage her children to flunk in
school in
order to prolong the free income from "child support"?
I don't know, but one thing's for certain, if you can get actual
proof
that she's doing this, I'd be down there at the court filing for a
change of custody because of child abuse.

Even if you get proof, I can assure you the courts will say that
"it's
in the best
interest of the child" to continue to support him to ensure he gets
at
least
a high school education...

And also, there's a fine line between encouraging them to fail, and
being
so neglectful that they continue to fail...sadly, the courts will
see
a HUGE
line between these two as well...of course, all in the best interest
of the
child.

You know what, you may be right. The courts may say all of this stuff
even if it is shown that the mother is passed out drunk when the kids
get off school and that they really shouldn't be yanked from their
mother during the tender years. But you know what that is preferable
to? It is preferable to the courts not having to say that because you
didn't bring it forward and the public being able to write this off as
one-sided, typical selfish behavior.
So bring it forward, gather all the evidence, and if the courts rule
that way, post it all online along with their ruling. If you don't
know
how to post up recordings of video calls I'll help and I'm sure there
are other people on this list who have the technical knowhow to do so.
If you can't scan it, send it on to one of us and we'll do it. Scan
it
all, publish it all, and post it all, because if I am going to curse
the
darkness I'd like to leave an objective record that others can see.
So
Chris, if you have the records, post them on up and let the world
decide.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I do agree with you John, I was simply stating what the courts will
probably do...

I've always wondered how the courts would treat a child dropping out of
high
school and then enrolling in a community college program to get a GED.
Does
anyone have any experience with that scenario and how it relates to the CS
high school/age limits laws?

My guess is that the GED would qualify as completion of high school. Better
question is: What happens if the flunky drops out of high school and NEVER
gets a GED?

"Chris" wrote in message
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
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"whatamess" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jun 25, 12:29 pm, John Meyer wrote:
whatamess wrote:
On Jun 25, 9:01 am, John Meyer wrote:
Chris wrote:
Just curious:
How many times can a mother encourage her children to flunk in
school in
order to prolong the free income from "child support"?
I don't know, but one thing's for certain, if you can get actual
proof
that she's doing this, I'd be down there at the court filing for a
change of custody because of child abuse.

Even if you get proof, I can assure you the courts will say that
"it's
in the best
interest of the child" to continue to support him to ensure he gets
at
least
a high school education...

And also, there's a fine line between encouraging them to fail, and
being
so neglectful that they continue to fail...sadly, the courts will
see
a HUGE
line between these two as well...of course, all in the best
interest
of the
child.

You know what, you may be right. The courts may say all of this
stuff
even if it is shown that the mother is passed out drunk when the kids
get off school and that they really shouldn't be yanked from their
mother during the tender years. But you know what that is preferable
to? It is preferable to the courts not having to say that because
you
didn't bring it forward and the public being able to write this off
as
one-sided, typical selfish behavior.
So bring it forward, gather all the evidence, and if the courts rule
that way, post it all online along with their ruling. If you don't
know
how to post up recordings of video calls I'll help and I'm sure there
are other people on this list who have the technical knowhow to do
so.
If you can't scan it, send it on to one of us and we'll do it. Scan
it
all, publish it all, and post it all, because if I am going to curse
the
darkness I'd like to leave an objective record that others can see.
So
Chris, if you have the records, post them on up and let the world
decide.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I do agree with you John, I was simply stating what the courts will
probably do...

I've always wondered how the courts would treat a child dropping out of
high
school and then enrolling in a community college program to get a GED.
Does
anyone have any experience with that scenario and how it relates to the
CS
high school/age limits laws?

My guess is that the GED would qualify as completion of high school.
Better
question is: What happens if the flunky drops out of high school and NEVER
gets a GED?

I can't say what the language is in every child support order, but in my
husband's it is "age 19 or completion of high school, whichever comes
first."

"Chris" wrote in message
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
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"whatamess" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jun 25, 12:29 pm, John Meyer wrote:
whatamess wrote:
On Jun 25, 9:01 am, John Meyer wrote:
Chris wrote:
Just curious:
How many times can a mother encourage her children to flunk in
school in
order to prolong the free income from "child support"?
I don't know, but one thing's for certain, if you can get actual
proof
that she's doing this, I'd be down there at the court filing for
a
change of custody because of child abuse.

Even if you get proof, I can assure you the courts will say that
"it's
in the best
interest of the child" to continue to support him to ensure he
gets
at
least
a high school education...

And also, there's a fine line between encouraging them to fail,
and
being
so neglectful that they continue to fail...sadly, the courts will
see
a HUGE
line between these two as well...of course, all in the best
interest
of the
child.

You know what, you may be right. The courts may say all of this
stuff
even if it is shown that the mother is passed out drunk when the
kids
get off school and that they really shouldn't be yanked from their
mother during the tender years. But you know what that is
preferable
to? It is preferable to the courts not having to say that because
you
didn't bring it forward and the public being able to write this off
as
one-sided, typical selfish behavior.
So bring it forward, gather all the evidence, and if the courts rule
that way, post it all online along with their ruling. If you don't
know
how to post up recordings of video calls I'll help and I'm sure
there
are other people on this list who have the technical knowhow to do
so.
If you can't scan it, send it on to one of us and we'll do it. Scan
it
all, publish it all, and post it all, because if I am going to curse
the
darkness I'd like to leave an objective record that others can see.
So
Chris, if you have the records, post them on up and let the world
decide.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I do agree with you John, I was simply stating what the courts will
probably do...

I've always wondered how the courts would treat a child dropping out of
high
school and then enrolling in a community college program to get a GED.
Does
anyone have any experience with that scenario and how it relates to the
CS
high school/age limits laws?

My guess is that the GED would qualify as completion of high school.
Better
question is: What happens if the flunky drops out of high school and NEVER
gets a GED?

No problem in my state. Any type of vocational training including the job
corps as well as home schooling is considered going to "school".