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Kane: If I were to post the state agencies
form number would you be able to confirm that? When the stuff written up in a study of a certain home is filled with comments that have absolutely no bearing on the home situation, it's obvious. The comments even belie G'ma's mental illness. Sorta like when she was asked a yes or no question in court and she started opinionating, even pretending to speak on behalf of the child, which was an obvious LIE. Yes, Home study for placement is provided to PARENT. And the form has titles over the sections indicating what is to be written up. Did we get to "see sausage getting made"?? It's the ""Social History Report"" which is as secretive as you described, and used in court yet not available for cross examination. Iowa let's people read homestudies on others?...hell, most states you can't even get YOUR OWN homestudy without a court order, and even then most courts will turn down the request. You are lying again. Or after our squawking, the redo Home Study where the details on Prozac were severely minimized snip Yah better start comin' up with more than that, Greegor. How do YOU know what belongs in a HS form anyway? Yah got a pile of 'em sittin' aroun'? You aren't allowed to see someone else's homestudy, Greegor, as even one's own is unlikely to be released to then. You are lying again. Will the form number and letter suffice? Tell me if that would prove I was telling truth. |
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On 19 Jan 2004 05:24:02 GMT, Chris wrote:
Kane wrote: [snip] : YOU, Asshole, are a ****ing smelly **** precisely because YOU defend : people that torture children, and even those that kill children. : YOU ARE A ****ING SMELLY ROTTEN ****....got that? : Grow the **** up, you family and child hating bitch. In most cases, this sort of verbal abuse is the last resort of people with losing positions who have nothing left with which to argue. Bull****, Chris. It's a common response to viciousness on the part of others. Grow the **** up. The abusive obscenity isn't in my words, it's in the actions of these cretins. But the antispank position is not a losing position. We have the momentum of history on our side, and virtually all the science on our side. Over a dozen countries have banned the practice entirely with more in the pipeline. It has been banned in all but a dwindling minority of US states' school systems, and US public opinion in favor of spanking continues to erode according to public opinion polls. We antispankers don't need to engage in obscene rants. We are winning this battle of the culture wars. Yep. Just a few hardcore nitwits left. Resorting obscenities and personal attacks is a sign of weakness rather than a sign of strength. Bull****, Chris. Grow up. There is more than one way to express opinions that are valid. Alt.parenting.spanking was more effective back in the old days when the antispankers were polite and civil while the prospankers threw obscene tantrums and launched endless personal smear campaigns which few lurkers took seriously. "more effective" how, Chris. Notice whose gone missing? All that are left are a few holdouts that are themselves ****ing nutcases. Loosen up. Your tight ass blather is embarrassing to you and to anti spankers in general. Now that the mud slinging is so prevalent on both sides I have less interest in the debates here than I used to, although I still check in from time to time. Your problem. Do you think The Question was just mud slinging? It's simple. Antispankers are winning everywhere. We don't need to behave as if we are losing Please defend, logically (not emotionally, as you are doing), your argument that swearing and vulgar personal attacks equates with acting as though we are losing? That's prissy assedness of the worse kind. I'm PROVING that the crudest of us, the most uncouth, can still respond to the needs of children and the truth about their vulnerablity and the damages done by brutes to them. and must resort to vulgar personal attacks for lack of anything more cogent to offer. YOU want to try and answer The Question? How's THAT for "cogent?" Get off your high horse. The ng doesn't belong to you. And years of argument in the same, quasi polite (you were as brutal as I in YOUR way) "debate" wound down, spiraled down into a few clever little ****ed up nitwits using the same tired logical phallacies and lies to frustrate ANY FURTHER ARGUMENT. I broke the stalemate and you know it if you could think about it outside your prissy assed sensibilities. Frankly I consider "polite" debaters as phony balognies. They are exactly, if they are any good, as brutal and vulgar as I am...they just use camoflaging tactics. I find that offensive. And those that do it habitually, offensive and silly. I am talking about YOU, Chris. If you didn't notice. What happened to YOU is not going to blamed on me or anyone else that argues more crudely. YOU ran out of opponents other than the deceitful liars..nice work, actually. You left the field for people like me to deal with Doananators, and little piggy O's of the world. I did. When you've convinced (which I'm not at all willing to admit you did) the polite debaters to change their child beating ways the rest are still there, babbling away. I leave'em reeling, and for some folks, more especially the ones preempted by the abuses THEY suffered as children, shock is the only way to get to them. How'm I doin' eh? Chris Your prissy assed criticism isn't the least welcome, but you are free to peddle it of course, if it makes you feel superior and better than us. ****in' effete twits **** me off more than most...I have more respect for the assholes that debate in favor of child abuse honestly...if I can find them. **** off. Kane |
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Kane wrote:
On 19 Jan 2004 05:24:02 GMT, Chris wrote: Kane wrote: [snip] YOU, Asshole, are a ****ing smelly **** precisely because YOU defend people that torture children, and even those that kill children. YOU ARE A ****ING SMELLY ROTTEN ****....got that? Grow the **** up, you family and child hating bitch. In most cases, this sort of verbal abuse is the last resort of people with losing positions who have nothing left with which to argue. Bull****, Chris. It's a common response to viciousness on the part of others. Grow the **** up. The abusive obscenity isn't in my words, it's in the actions of these cretins. But the antispank position is not a losing position. We have the momentum of history on our side, and virtually all the science on our side. Over a dozen countries have banned the practice entirely with more in the pipeline. It has been banned in all but a dwindling minority of US states' school systems, and US public opinion in favor of spanking continues to erode according to public opinion polls. We antispankers don't need to engage in obscene rants. We are winning this battle of the culture wars. Yep. Just a few hardcore nitwits left. Resorting obscenities and personal attacks is a sign of weakness rather than a sign of strength. Bull****, Chris. Grow up. There is more than one way to express opinions that are valid. Alt.parenting.spanking was more effective back in the old days when the antispankers were polite and civil while the prospankers threw obscene tantrums and launched endless personal smear campaigns which few lurkers took seriously. "more effective" how, Chris. Notice whose gone missing? All that are left are a few holdouts that are themselves ****ing nutcases. Loosen up. Your tight ass blather is embarrassing to you and to anti spankers in general. Now that the mud slinging is so prevalent on both sides I have less interest in the debates here than I used to, although I still check in from time to time. Your problem. Do you think The Question was just mud slinging? It's simple. Antispankers are winning everywhere. We don't need to behave as if we are losing Please defend, logically (not emotionally, as you are doing), your argument that swearing and vulgar personal attacks equates with acting as though we are losing? That's prissy assedness of the worse kind. I'm PROVING that the crudest of us, the most uncouth, can still respond to the needs of children and the truth about their vulnerablity and the damages done by brutes to them. and must resort to vulgar personal attacks for lack of anything more cogent to offer. YOU want to try and answer The Question? How's THAT for "cogent?" Get off your high horse. The ng doesn't belong to you. And years of argument in the same, quasi polite (you were as brutal as I in YOUR way) "debate" wound down, spiraled down into a few clever little ****ed up nitwits using the same tired logical phallacies and lies to frustrate ANY FURTHER ARGUMENT. I broke the stalemate and you know it if you could think about it outside your prissy assed sensibilities. Frankly I consider "polite" debaters as phony balognies. They are exactly, if they are any good, as brutal and vulgar as I am...they just use camoflaging tactics. Nothing worse than someone who puts you down for spanking your child in public for totally unacceptable behavior, then watches, with blind acceptance, as their little Julie or Tommy knocks the hell out of another child, trashes a display and gives them a ****ing time-out. Julie and Tommy are the very kids that will be uncontrollable and have no idea of personal responsibility when they hit high school. Why do you think disciplinary boot camps are so successful? Kids want and NEED discipline, and a freaking time-out isn't ****. If I thought, from the time I was small, that I could steal something and receive time-out type punishment (basically varying from no punishment up to a slap on the hand) by the time I hit adulthood, I'd have a houseful of really nice stuff. It's no different when little Julie knocks the **** out of my kid. Julie needs to find out what it feels like to have a toasty glowing ass. ISM ****in' effete twits **** me off more than most...I have more respect for the assholes that debate in favor of child abuse honestly...if I can find them. **** off. Kane |
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Kane wrote:
On 19 Jan 2004 06:56:38 GMT, wrote: Chris wrote: It's simple. Antispankers are winning everywhere. We don't need to behave as if we are losing and must resort to vulgar personal attacks for lack of anything more cogent to offer. Yeah, we can look around at kids with guns, knives, syringes, date rape and tell how you're winning. Who are the ones out fighting for our freedom? Kids that learned discipline. Tell that to your time-out baby when he comes down from his stoner high. I'd like to see a few unspanked pampered little brats fight their way through boot camp. Stay close Mommy and Daddy; junior is going to need you to come pick him up. ISM You are a **** assed little twit, Leakin' and not worthy of association even with those I disagree with, let along civilized people that DON'T beat their kiddies and delude themselves that it is love and discipline. Now go jack off your Whore buddy and give up trying to hang out with decent folk. LOL Kane |
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I Spank Mine wrote:
Kane wrote: It's simple. Antispankers are winning everywhere. We don't need to behave as if we are losing and must resort to vulgar personal attacks for lack of anything more cogent to offer. Yeah, we can look around at kids with guns, knives, syringes, date rape and tell how you're winning. You can? Please explain what you think you've figured out.. Who are the ones out fighting for our freedom? Please tell us. You think the ranks of our military consist solely of people who were physically punished as children? Kids that learned discipline. Discipline = being physically punished as a child? Do you not own a dictionary? Tell that to your time-out baby when he comes down from his stoner high. I'd like to see a few unspanked pampered little brats fight their way through boot camp. First you have to find some "unspanked pampered little brats." The only brats I know got to be that way from the way they were treated as children - specifically, the way you seem to advocate raising children. -Jerry- |
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"I Spank Mine" wrote in message ...
Kane wrote: On 19 Jan 2004 06:56:38 GMT, wrote: Chris wrote: It's simple. Antispankers are winning everywhere. We don't need to behave as if we are losing and must resort to vulgar personal attacks for lack of anything more cogent to offer. Yeah, we can look around at kids with guns, knives, syringes, date rape and tell how you're winning. Adolescent crime is down and has been going down for years. Look it up. It's been posted here enough in aps. The fact there are still some of that going on is a better indicator that, despite the inroads being made with non punitive child rearing, the "spankers" are still in the minority, around 90-98% of the families DO spank according to recent stats from different sources. Who are the ones out fighting for our freedom? Where? Kids that learned discipline. Tell that to your time-out baby when he comes down from his stoner high. You have some support from reputable sources that stoners are predominately unspanked children? I'd like to see a few unspanked pampered little brats fight their way through boot camp. I'm sure they could quite well. And what makes you think boots have to "fight" there way through? Stay close Mommy and Daddy; junior is going to need you to come pick him up. Interesting viewpoint, but unsupported with facts so far. Got any? ISM Yes, you do seem to be promoting some kind of "ism" but I'm not sure yet what. Kane You are a **** assed little twit, Leakin' and not worthy of association even with those I disagree with, let along civilized people that DON'T beat their kiddies and delude themselves that it is love and discipline. Now go jack off your Whore buddy and give up trying to hang out with decent folk. LOL Kane |
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