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Bill Gates: We can lower the world's population with vaccines
"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: wrote in message . .. In article , dr_jeff wrote: Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... john wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... john wrote: http://www.whale.to/b/bill_gates1.html "If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [his initial 2050 global population projection of 9-billion] by perhaps about 10 to 15 percent." ---Bill Gates With better health care, including vaccines and reproductive health services, people have fewer children, leading to a lower increase in human population. Jeff he didn't say that, but nice attempt at spin Where did he say that? Please show I am wrong. Gates may have been referring to hCG vaccine or other anti-pregnancy vaccines. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...og%24=activity I don't think so. Bill Gate's foundation has paid for a lot of health care in developing nations as well as vaccine development against infectious diseases. "Reproductive health services" means access to birth control. Like women in developed countries, women in underdeveloped countries would prefer not to have more children than they can raise to healthy adulthood. That option is not open to most of them now. Exactly. And a contraceptive vaccine that is effective for several years is likely to be more successful (and probably cheaper) than methods which rely on remembering to take pills on a daily basis. Where there is better health (in part from vaccines and improved access to health care), kids are more likely to make it to adulthood, so adults don't need to have as many kids to ensure that some of their kids will make it to adulthood. They don't need to but the evidence of population growth in most developing countries is that they still are. Reproductive health care means more than birth control. In the context of reducing the current estimate of population in 2050 it probably doesn't mean much more than birth control. |
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Bill Gates: We can lower the world's population with vaccines
Blinky Bill wrote:
"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: wrote in message . .. In article , dr_jeff wrote: Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... john wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... john wrote: http://www.whale.to/b/bill_gates1.html "If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [his initial 2050 global population projection of 9-billion] by perhaps about 10 to 15 percent." ---Bill Gates With better health care, including vaccines and reproductive health services, people have fewer children, leading to a lower increase in human population. Jeff he didn't say that, but nice attempt at spin Where did he say that? Please show I am wrong. Gates may have been referring to hCG vaccine or other anti-pregnancy vaccines. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...og%24=activity I don't think so. Bill Gate's foundation has paid for a lot of health care in developing nations as well as vaccine development against infectious diseases. "Reproductive health services" means access to birth control. Like women in developed countries, women in underdeveloped countries would prefer not to have more children than they can raise to healthy adulthood. That option is not open to most of them now. Exactly. And a contraceptive vaccine that is effective for several years is likely to be more successful (and probably cheaper) than methods which rely on remembering to take pills on a daily basis. Where there is better health (in part from vaccines and improved access to health care), kids are more likely to make it to adulthood, so adults don't need to have as many kids to ensure that some of their kids will make it to adulthood. They don't need to but the evidence of population growth in most developing countries is that they still are. Reproductive health care means more than birth control. In the context of reducing the current estimate of population in 2050 it probably doesn't mean much more than birth control. Yet, Bill Gates is interested in helping people in developing nations in ways beyond just birth control. Jeff |
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Bill Gates: We can lower the world's population with vaccines
"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: wrote in message . .. In article , dr_jeff wrote: Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... john wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... john wrote: http://www.whale.to/b/bill_gates1.html "If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [his initial 2050 global population projection of 9-billion] by perhaps about 10 to 15 percent." ---Bill Gates With better health care, including vaccines and reproductive health services, people have fewer children, leading to a lower increase in human population. Jeff he didn't say that, but nice attempt at spin Where did he say that? Please show I am wrong. Gates may have been referring to hCG vaccine or other anti-pregnancy vaccines. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...og%24=activity I don't think so. Bill Gate's foundation has paid for a lot of health care in developing nations as well as vaccine development against infectious diseases. "Reproductive health services" means access to birth control. Like women in developed countries, women in underdeveloped countries would prefer not to have more children than they can raise to healthy adulthood. That option is not open to most of them now. Exactly. And a contraceptive vaccine that is effective for several years is likely to be more successful (and probably cheaper) than methods which rely on remembering to take pills on a daily basis. Where there is better health (in part from vaccines and improved access to health care), kids are more likely to make it to adulthood, so adults don't need to have as many kids to ensure that some of their kids will make it to adulthood. They don't need to but the evidence of population growth in most developing countries is that they still are. Reproductive health care means more than birth control. In the context of reducing the current estimate of population in 2050 it probably doesn't mean much more than birth control. Yet, Bill Gates is interested in helping people in developing nations in ways beyond just birth control. Nobody has said otherwise - but the best method of substantially reducing the projected 2050 population (which is what is being discussed, not his other philanthropic activities) is likely to be birth control rather than waiting for fertility to decline with improved life expectancy. Jeff |
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Bill Gates: We can lower the world's population with vaccines
Blinky Bill wrote:
"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: wrote in message . .. In article , dr_jeff wrote: Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... john wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... john wrote: http://www.whale.to/b/bill_gates1.html "If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [his initial 2050 global population projection of 9-billion] by perhaps about 10 to 15 percent." ---Bill Gates With better health care, including vaccines and reproductive health services, people have fewer children, leading to a lower increase in human population. Jeff he didn't say that, but nice attempt at spin Where did he say that? Please show I am wrong. Gates may have been referring to hCG vaccine or other anti-pregnancy vaccines. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...og%24=activity I don't think so. Bill Gate's foundation has paid for a lot of health care in developing nations as well as vaccine development against infectious diseases. "Reproductive health services" means access to birth control. Like women in developed countries, women in underdeveloped countries would prefer not to have more children than they can raise to healthy adulthood. That option is not open to most of them now. Exactly. And a contraceptive vaccine that is effective for several years is likely to be more successful (and probably cheaper) than methods which rely on remembering to take pills on a daily basis. Where there is better health (in part from vaccines and improved access to health care), kids are more likely to make it to adulthood, so adults don't need to have as many kids to ensure that some of their kids will make it to adulthood. They don't need to but the evidence of population growth in most developing countries is that they still are. Reproductive health care means more than birth control. In the context of reducing the current estimate of population in 2050 it probably doesn't mean much more than birth control. Yet, Bill Gates is interested in helping people in developing nations in ways beyond just birth control. Nobody has said otherwise - but the best method of substantially reducing the projected 2050 population (which is what is being discussed, not his other philanthropic activities) is likely to be birth control rather than waiting for fertility to decline with improved life expectancy. When people are better off socioeconomically, they usually choose to have fewer children. That's a big reason why the birth rate in the US is lower than that in Africa. Jeff |
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Bill Gates: We can lower the world's population with vaccines
"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: wrote in message . .. In article , dr_jeff wrote: Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... john wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... john wrote: http://www.whale.to/b/bill_gates1.html "If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [his initial 2050 global population projection of 9-billion] by perhaps about 10 to 15 percent." ---Bill Gates With better health care, including vaccines and reproductive health services, people have fewer children, leading to a lower increase in human population. Jeff he didn't say that, but nice attempt at spin Where did he say that? Please show I am wrong. Gates may have been referring to hCG vaccine or other anti-pregnancy vaccines. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...og%24=activity I don't think so. Bill Gate's foundation has paid for a lot of health care in developing nations as well as vaccine development against infectious diseases. "Reproductive health services" means access to birth control. Like women in developed countries, women in underdeveloped countries would prefer not to have more children than they can raise to healthy adulthood. That option is not open to most of them now. Exactly. And a contraceptive vaccine that is effective for several years is likely to be more successful (and probably cheaper) than methods which rely on remembering to take pills on a daily basis. Where there is better health (in part from vaccines and improved access to health care), kids are more likely to make it to adulthood, so adults don't need to have as many kids to ensure that some of their kids will make it to adulthood. They don't need to but the evidence of population growth in most developing countries is that they still are. Reproductive health care means more than birth control. In the context of reducing the current estimate of population in 2050 it probably doesn't mean much more than birth control. Yet, Bill Gates is interested in helping people in developing nations in ways beyond just birth control. Nobody has said otherwise - but the best method of substantially reducing the projected 2050 population (which is what is being discussed, not his other philanthropic activities) is likely to be birth control rather than waiting for fertility to decline with improved life expectancy. When people are better off socioeconomically, they usually choose to have fewer children. That's a big reason why the birth rate in the US is lower than that in Africa. That may be so, but socio-economics wasn't mentioned in the quote by Gates - "If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [his initial 2050 global population projection of 9-billion] by perhaps about 10 to 15 percent." |
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Bill Gates: We can lower the world's population with vaccines
Blinky Bill wrote:
"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: wrote in message . .. In article , dr_jeff wrote: Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... john wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... john wrote: http://www.whale.to/b/bill_gates1.html "If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [his initial 2050 global population projection of 9-billion] by perhaps about 10 to 15 percent." ---Bill Gates With better health care, including vaccines and reproductive health services, people have fewer children, leading to a lower increase in human population. Jeff he didn't say that, but nice attempt at spin Where did he say that? Please show I am wrong. Gates may have been referring to hCG vaccine or other anti-pregnancy vaccines. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...og%24=activity I don't think so. Bill Gate's foundation has paid for a lot of health care in developing nations as well as vaccine development against infectious diseases. "Reproductive health services" means access to birth control. Like women in developed countries, women in underdeveloped countries would prefer not to have more children than they can raise to healthy adulthood. That option is not open to most of them now. Exactly. And a contraceptive vaccine that is effective for several years is likely to be more successful (and probably cheaper) than methods which rely on remembering to take pills on a daily basis. Where there is better health (in part from vaccines and improved access to health care), kids are more likely to make it to adulthood, so adults don't need to have as many kids to ensure that some of their kids will make it to adulthood. They don't need to but the evidence of population growth in most developing countries is that they still are. Reproductive health care means more than birth control. In the context of reducing the current estimate of population in 2050 it probably doesn't mean much more than birth control. Yet, Bill Gates is interested in helping people in developing nations in ways beyond just birth control. Nobody has said otherwise - but the best method of substantially reducing the projected 2050 population (which is what is being discussed, not his other philanthropic activities) is likely to be birth control rather than waiting for fertility to decline with improved life expectancy. When people are better off socioeconomically, they usually choose to have fewer children. That's a big reason why the birth rate in the US is lower than that in Africa. That may be so, but socio-economics wasn't mentioned in the quote by Gates - "If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [his initial 2050 global population projection of 9-billion] by perhaps about 10 to 15 percent." That quote is the only thing I saw that he said on the topic of population growth. However, in another talk, at Stanford University, he said, "Now, fortunately, if you get health right, it brings population growth down, and there's a lot of data that says that when you have more resources to feed, to educate, these political pathologies you get in are less likely to take place." http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/e...9Stanford.mspx Jeff |
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Bill Gates: We can lower the world's population with vaccines
"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: snip Reproductive health care means more than birth control. In the context of reducing the current estimate of population in 2050 it probably doesn't mean much more than birth control. Yet, Bill Gates is interested in helping people in developing nations in ways beyond just birth control. Nobody has said otherwise - but the best method of substantially reducing the projected 2050 population (which is what is being discussed, not his other philanthropic activities) is likely to be birth control rather than waiting for fertility to decline with improved life expectancy. When people are better off socioeconomically, they usually choose to have fewer children. That's a big reason why the birth rate in the US is lower than that in Africa. That may be so, but socio-economics wasn't mentioned in the quote by Gates - "If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [his initial 2050 global population projection of 9-billion] by perhaps about 10 to 15 percent." That quote is the only thing I saw that he said on the topic of population growth. Yep - let's just stick to that quote, which is what was being discussed. |
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Bill Gates: We can lower the world's population with vaccines
Blinky Bill wrote:
"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: snip Reproductive health care means more than birth control. In the context of reducing the current estimate of population in 2050 it probably doesn't mean much more than birth control. Yet, Bill Gates is interested in helping people in developing nations in ways beyond just birth control. Nobody has said otherwise - but the best method of substantially reducing the projected 2050 population (which is what is being discussed, not his other philanthropic activities) is likely to be birth control rather than waiting for fertility to decline with improved life expectancy. When people are better off socioeconomically, they usually choose to have fewer children. That's a big reason why the birth rate in the US is lower than that in Africa. That may be so, but socio-economics wasn't mentioned in the quote by Gates - "If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [his initial 2050 global population projection of 9-billion] by perhaps about 10 to 15 percent." That quote is the only thing I saw that he said on the topic of population growth. Yep - let's just stick to that quote, which is what was being discussed. You were intellectually dishonest when you removed part of what I said without indicating that fact. And we were discussing the meaning of the quote, by bringing other things the person whom was quote said. If you don't think that is relevant tough doo-doo. Jeff |
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Bill Gates: We can lower the world's population with vaccines
"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: snip Reproductive health care means more than birth control. In the context of reducing the current estimate of population in 2050 it probably doesn't mean much more than birth control. Yet, Bill Gates is interested in helping people in developing nations in ways beyond just birth control. Nobody has said otherwise - but the best method of substantially reducing the projected 2050 population (which is what is being discussed, not his other philanthropic activities) is likely to be birth control rather than waiting for fertility to decline with improved life expectancy. When people are better off socioeconomically, they usually choose to have fewer children. That's a big reason why the birth rate in the US is lower than that in Africa. That may be so, but socio-economics wasn't mentioned in the quote by Gates - "If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [his initial 2050 global population projection of 9-billion] by perhaps about 10 to 15 percent." That quote is the only thing I saw that he said on the topic of population growth. Yep - let's just stick to that quote, which is what was being discussed. You were intellectually dishonest when you removed part of what I said without indicating that fact. I snipped the part not relevant to the point of discussion which is the Bill gates quote cited above. Why you think it is "intellectually dishonest" to try to keep you on topic by refusinjg to be diverted is something only you can explain. And we were discussing the meaning of the quote, by bringing other things snip irrelevant "other things" No "we" weren't - only you want to change the subject. You apparently want this discussion to go on forever by changing the subject - I'm not interested. |
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Bill Gates: We can lower the world's population with vaccines
Blinky Bill wrote:
"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... Blinky Bill wrote: snip Reproductive health care means more than birth control. In the context of reducing the current estimate of population in 2050 it probably doesn't mean much more than birth control. Yet, Bill Gates is interested in helping people in developing nations in ways beyond just birth control. Nobody has said otherwise - but the best method of substantially reducing the projected 2050 population (which is what is being discussed, not his other philanthropic activities) is likely to be birth control rather than waiting for fertility to decline with improved life expectancy. When people are better off socioeconomically, they usually choose to have fewer children. That's a big reason why the birth rate in the US is lower than that in Africa. That may be so, but socio-economics wasn't mentioned in the quote by Gates - "If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [his initial 2050 global population projection of 9-billion] by perhaps about 10 to 15 percent." That quote is the only thing I saw that he said on the topic of population growth. Yep - let's just stick to that quote, which is what was being discussed. You were intellectually dishonest when you removed part of what I said without indicating that fact. I snipped the part not relevant to the point of discussion which is the Bill gates quote cited above. Why you think it is "intellectually dishonest" to try to keep you on topic by refusinjg to be diverted is something only you can explain. You're changing what I said without indicating that fact. And we were discussing the meaning of the quote, by bringing other things snip irrelevant "other things" I think it's relevant. Obviously, you don't. Too bad. No "we" weren't - only you want to change the subject. You're a fool if you think what the person said related to the quote is not relevant. You apparently want this discussion to go on forever by changing the subject - I'm not interested. Good, there is no requirement that you participate in the discussion. Problem solved. Jeff |
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