Teacher on Teacher violence

And your point is what, Greegor? That a teacher assaulted another
teacher? How does this relate to either the ascps or the aps ng?

LaVonne

Greegor wrote:
The assailant was a teacher and the victim was a teacher.

With all of the paranoia and mandatory reporter education that is
pushed on teachers many of them act like "Junior G Men" and feel like
heros joining in with
the "rescue fantasy" that CPS perpetuates.

Any innocent mark, bruise or off handed
comment that can be made into a CPS
case must be reported.

The threat of problems for failure to report
has made teachers paranoid to the extreme.

Reporters need no reason to feel that something
is suspicious, just that something could,
POSSIBLY indicate abuse.

Probable cause has been replaced with Possible cause.

"Greegor" wrote in message
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With all of the paranoia and mandatory reporter education that is
pushed on teachers many of them act like "Junior G Men" and feel like
heros joining in with
the "rescue fantasy" that CPS perpetuates.

Any innocent mark, bruise or off handed
comment that can be made into a CPS
case must be reported.

The threat of problems for failure to report
has made teachers paranoid to the extreme.

Reporters need no reason to feel that something
is suspicious, just that something could,
POSSIBLY indicate abuse.

Probable cause has been replaced with Possible cause.

This still doesn't explain how this is related to DFS.

Perhaps so, Greegorian Chant, but remember, CPS doesn't remove children
for probable cause, attorneys and JUDGES do, based on probable cause.
CPS is virtually the "middleman or person" in this picture. No
paranoia I can see, other than from people who have had their children
removed. Hell, many on this site think CPS is bugging their phones and
following them around town. That's the biggest laugh in history, you
moron. CPS has absolutely NO authority do do any of those things, in
ANY state in this nation.

You are right, there might be innocent marks, bruises or, as you said,
"off handed comments," but all don't result in kids being taken from
their homes. Hell, do you know what it actually takes to TAKE a child
or more from a home? The paperwork, court appearances, follow-ups? If
you did, you wouldn't even consider the fact that ANY CPS worker on
earth has time to worry about your sorry ass. Yep, cases are reported,
but it doesn't mean removal in every case. Only ones like yours, where
the child is actually in danger or has been abused or neglected.

No court on earth (who has the final word, I remind you) has replaced
probable cause with anything, including your idiot comment of "possible
cause."

Keep trying, buttwipe. You can't excuse what you did to that family.

US Wallis v. Escondido
Why did lower courts go along with the idiocy?
Most Juvenile Courts are "rubber stamps" for the agency
or "Kangaroo Courts".

When it comes to "probable cause" why would
the "final word" be as important as the "first blush"
of the lower court that tolerates the invasion?

It won't be long now.

Juvenile courts? Child removal is a dependency court issue. Spin it
any way you'd like, kids are taken from abusive parents. Are mistakes
made? I'm sure of it, but it isn't the norm, like you want everyone to
believe, just to justify your own miserable behavior.

I love the terminology game.
Calling them "dependency courts" seems
to imply they are not even about children,
just funding.

Imagine that!

These are the very same people who would
turn in a report to CPS if a kid has a bruise
from play, climbing in trees, etc.

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dw....31ea70c5.html
Teacher found guilty of assault in beating of fellow educator (Photo
of perp in article)
10:54 PM CDT on Thursday, May 11, 2006
By ROBERT THARP / The Dallas Morning News

Paulette Baines A Dallas schoolteacher who beat and kicked another
teacher while a classroom of seventh-grade students watched was
convicted Wednesday of assaulting a public servant.

Paulette Baines faces punishment ranging from probation to 10 years in
prison for the third-degree felony conviction. District Judge Faith
Johnson is expected to sentence her today.

Prosecutors had asked jurors to return a guilty verdict on a
more-serious charge of aggravated assault of a public servant, noting
that teacher Mary Oliver suffered two broken ribs, a concussion,
bruises and damaged disks in her neck at Ms. Baines' hands and feet.

"These people, when they have these types of things happen to them,
deserve our support," prosecutor Pat Batchelor said.

Jurors said they wrestled with the legal definition of "serious bodily
injury" and could not be sure that an injury to Ms. Oliver's neck was
the result of the beating because she reported it more than a month
after the attack.

A doctor testified during the trial that pain from such injuries is
sometimes not immediately felt.

Ms. Oliver, a seventh-grade science teacher at William B. Travis
Academy/Vanguard for the Academically Talented and Gifted in Oak Lawn,
testified that the April 2005 attack occurred hours after she had
confronted Ms. Baines' daughter and other students for being in a
school hallway without permission.

Ms. Baines, who was a teacher at North Dallas High School at the time,
showed up during Ms. Oliver's third-period class complaining that she
had "embarrassed" her daughter, she said.

When Ms. Oliver refused to discuss the matter during class, Ms. Baines
grabbed her by the hair and punched her, witnesses testified. As 12-
and 13-year-olds watched, Ms. Baines pulled Ms. Oliver from her chair
and kicked her repeatedly.

Ms. Baines was fired after the incident.

Although they returned a guilty verdict on a less-serious charge than
what prosecutors had asked, jurors said they did not think the case was
any less serious.

Leaving the courthouse Wednesday, jurors said they were shocked by the
15-year veteran teacher's behavior.

"That was the most appalling part - that one teacher attacked
another," jury foreman Stuart Barnhill said.

Ms. Baines did not testify in the trial, and her supporters declined to
comment Wednesday.

In closing arguments, attorney Jim Barklow did not dispute that Ms.
Baines committed the assault but denied that a teacher fits the murky
legal definition of "public servant" or that the blows Ms. Oliver
suffered amounted to "serious bodily injury."

Ms. Oliver said she was pleased with the verdict.

"My goal was for her to never be in the classroom again, and a felony
conviction assures that," she said, adding that she hopes Ms. Baines
receives jail time.

"She might have hurt me physically, but emotionally, we have 360 kids
in school, and she hurt every one of them," she said.



http://butthatsjustmyopinion.blogspo...n_archive.html

Black Dallas teacher assaults White Dallas Teacher
This could get interesting:
via Lone Wacko
DALLAS -- A high school teacher faces an assault charge after police
say she walked into a middle-school classroom, grabbed a teacher's
hair, yanked her out of her chair and dragged her across the room while
punching her in the face and kicking her. According to the police
report, Paulette Baines grabbed Mary Oliver in front of a class full of
gifted students Friday. Baines was angry because Oliver told her
daughter to quit loitering by lockers and go to class, Dallas school
district spokesman Donald Claxton said. Oliver said Baines was yelling
at her as she entered the classroom. "I want you to know I didn't raise
a finger. I didn't raise my voice. I didn't do anything to aggravate
the situation," Oliver said...
And, that would be the end of that tale. Except, the alleged assaultor
Baines is black and the alleged victim Oliver is white.

Greegor wrote:
What's all the HYSTERIA about?
7 messages within the same day?

dcfnobody wrote
And it wasn't teacher on teacher either.

From the article
Baines, a high school teacher, walked
into Oliver's science classroom,

As the locals say, "she ain't no more, she ain't."

"Baines was fired after the incident."

From the same source.

R R R R R R

Why do you focus on small errors of understanding that have NO BEARING
on the real underlying issues.

Like VIOLENCE IN SCHOOLS WHERE PADDLING IS THE NORM?

Want to discuss ANYTHING but what is relevant. Drag the debate AWAY from
what you cannot defend and have been defeated at repeatedly.

You are all empty hollow gourd heads, Greg. And that's an insult to gourds.

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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin

Greegor wrote:
What's all the HYSTERIA about?
7 messages within the same day?

Are you drawing this from your own experience with your posting
frequency? Are YOU hysterical when you reach seven in a day?

Count yours today, did you?

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--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin