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Old September 7th 07, 07:59 PM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.headlines,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,ca.politics
Ilena Rose
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Default Schoolgirl HPV jabs 'premature'


http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Health Lover

http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com/...cer-while.html



http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html

Merck Gardasil Flack, Myrl Jeffcoat claims her simple math has proven
that there is "no argument left" ... continues her push to vaccinate
women when the medium term results are not even in.

However, when given the number of ill effects and deaths
produced by the vaccine, in balance to the number of lives saved,
there is no argument left, other than to produce pressure on the
manufacturers, to provide the safest vaccines possible.


No argument left????

She doesn't have a clue in the world to the rising number of real
deaths of young women from the vaccination ...

Nor how long the effects may (or may not) work ...

Or how the women's bodies will handle this new load of 225 mcg of
aluminum with each jab ...

Or how many lives may or may not be saved???

Yes, she claims there is no argument.

It reminds me how her leader, Andrew M Langer, dismissed the viewpoint
of millions of us worldwide who were anti-Neo Con, anti-Iraqui
Invasion ... as "indefensible."

Same propaganda team ... junk science / quackwatch / acsh.org ...


Note from Ilena Rosenthal: In my recent travels, I have become even
more aware of the enormous push in many countries now for mass
innoculation of our innocent children ...

Much like the Vaccination Industsry Newsgroup Spokespeople here, even
educated medical personnel are being told (and are passing on) only
the Merck propaganda.

When Merck funded 'Women in Government,' a chain of other 'non
profits' were set up to pretend to be unbiased health advocates. Their
#1 job was to sell the' magical thinking' of Merck of the benefits ...
and do a scare job on the masses of people ... much like Myrl Jeffcoat
broadcasts here.

I am feeling that those of us who urge caution and a time to have ALL
the evidence coming out now examined are having our voices drowned out
on usenet and blogs etc. ... so I was happy to see this bit of fresh
air.

Advertising pays. Please read this blog entry on how Merck spent
millions to do what the Gardasil pushers here claim to do for free.

http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com/...cer-while.html


http://www.healthcarerepublic.com/ne...abs-premature/

Schoolgirl HPV jabs 'premature'
05-Sep-07

Introducing a HPV vaccination programme for secondary school girls
would be 'premature', Canadian researchers have warned.
They argue that questions surrounding the efficacy of the HPV vaccine
need to be answered before an immunisation programme can start.

Instead, they suggest that more should be done to educate the public
about the realities of cervical cancer and to promote good nutrition,
smoking cessation and healthy sexual practice.

The DoH has accepted in principle the advice of the Joint Committee on
Vaccination and Immunisation's HPV subgroup that the vaccine be
introduced routinely for schoolgirls in the UK in September 2008,
subject to independent peer review of the cost-benefit analysis.

But the researchers say that a reduction in cases of cervical cancer
would require a vaccine directed against more than the two high-risk
strains of HPV (16 and 18) that Gardasil offers protection against.

Gardasil is the only HPV vaccine available on the market and offers
protection against two thirds of cervical cancer cases.

Previous research from the US has raised doubts over the use of
Gardasil suggesting that it cannot be used to treat those who already
have the infection because it fails to eliminate it.

Writing in the Canadian Medi*cal Association Journal, Dr Abby Lippman
and colleagues, from McGill University in Montreal, said: ‘Information
about the efficacy of Gardasil remains uncertain. To date, only a
handful of randomised controlled trials of sufficient qualify to
quantify for systemic review have been reported.'

Relatively few girls, 1,200 aged 9-15, were enrolled in the clinical
trials of Gardasil, they said.

'Clearly, this is a thin information base on which to construct a
policy of mass vaccination for all girls aged 9-13.'

  #2  
Old September 7th 07, 09:21 PM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.headlines,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,ca.politics
Myrl
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Default Schoolgirl HPV jabs 'premature'

Ilena Rosenthal becomes hystrionic while stating, "Or how the women's
bodies will handle this new load of 225 mcg of aluminum with each
Gardasil jab ..."

Let's look at the amounts of Aluminum in what is considered healthy
foods. It appears we could have a girl forego for a day, her serving
of Spinich (4 times the amount of aluminum vs Gardasil), or Brussels
Sprounds (near double the amount of aluminum), or Parmesan or Mussels
(soaring off the charts with aluminum).

The hysteria Ilena Rosenthal is promoting while flacking for the
Funeral Industry, doesn't hold up to light of day when reality sets
in!

Food Names Aluminum in Microgram (µg) per 100 g Edible Product

Mussels 27,000
Parmesan 2,000
Krill 6,300
Spinach 970
Brussels Sprouts 420
Corn Flakes 410
Brown Sugar 410
Avocados 390
Corn 350
Rye Bread 290
Radish 260
Abalone 230
White Bread 220
Cottage Cheese 190
Rice 110
Chicken Breast 110
Grapefruit 100
Beef 100
Broccoli 79
Tuna Fresh 79
Bacon 60
Cod 52



On Sep 7, 11:59 am, Ilena Rose wrote:
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Health Lover

http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com/...-of-cervical-c...

http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html

Merck Gardasil Flack, Myrl Jeffcoat claims her simple math has proven
that there is "no argument left" ... continues her push to vaccinate
women when the medium term results are not even in.

However, when given the number of ill effects and deaths
produced by the vaccine, in balance to the number of lives saved,
there is no argument left, other than to produce pressure on the
manufacturers, to provide the safest vaccines possible.


No argument left????

She doesn't have a clue in the world to the rising number of real
deaths of young women from the vaccination ...

Nor how long the effects may (or may not) work ...

Or how the women's bodies will handle this new load of 225 mcg of
aluminum with each jab ...

Or how many lives may or may not be saved???

Yes, she claims there is no argument.

It reminds me how her leader, Andrew M Langer, dismissed the viewpoint
of millions of us worldwide who were anti-Neo Con, anti-Iraqui
Invasion ... as "indefensible."

Same propaganda team ... junk science / quackwatch / acsh.org ...

Note from Ilena Rosenthal: In my recent travels, I have become even
more aware of the enormous push in many countries now for mass
innoculation of our innocent children ...

Much like the Vaccination Industsry Newsgroup Spokespeople here, even
educated medical personnel are being told (and are passing on) only
the Merck propaganda.

When Merck funded 'Women in Government,' a chain of other 'non
profits' were set up to pretend to be unbiased health advocates. Their
#1 job was to sell the' magical thinking' of Merck of the benefits ...
and do a scare job on the masses of people ... much like Myrl Jeffcoat
broadcasts here.

I am feeling that those of us who urge caution and a time to have ALL
the evidence coming out now examined are having our voices drowned out
on usenet and blogs etc. ... so I was happy to see this bit of fresh
air.

Advertising pays. Please read this blog entry on how Merck spent
millions to do what the Gardasil pushers here claim to do for free.

http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com/...-of-cervical-c...

http://www.healthcarerepublic.com/ne...6017/Schoolgir...

Schoolgirl HPV jabs 'premature'
05-Sep-07

Introducing a HPV vaccination programme for secondary school girls
would be 'premature', Canadian researchers have warned.
They argue that questions surrounding the efficacy of the HPV vaccine
need to be answered before an immunisation programme can start.

Instead, they suggest that more should be done to educate the public
about the realities of cervical cancer and to promote good nutrition,
smoking cessation and healthy sexual practice.

The DoH has accepted in principle the advice of the Joint Committee on
Vaccination and Immunisation's HPV subgroup that the vaccine be
introduced routinely for schoolgirls in the UK in September 2008,
subject to independent peer review of the cost-benefit analysis.

But the researchers say that a reduction in cases of cervical cancer
would require a vaccine directed against more than the two high-risk
strains of HPV (16 and 18) that Gardasil offers protection against.

Gardasil is the only HPV vaccine available on the market and offers
protection against two thirds of cervical cancer cases.

Previous research from the US has raised doubts over the use of
Gardasil suggesting that it cannot be used to treat those who already
have the infection because it fails to eliminate it.

Writing in the Canadian Medi*cal Association Journal, Dr Abby Lippman
and colleagues, from McGill University in Montreal, said: 'Information
about the efficacy of Gardasil remains uncertain. To date, only a
handful of randomised controlled trials of sufficient qualify to
quantify for systemic review have been reported.'

Relatively few girls, 1,200 aged 9-15, were enrolled in the clinical
trials of Gardasil, they said.

'Clearly, this is a thin information base on which to construct a
policy of mass vaccination for all girls aged 9-13.'



  #3  
Old September 7th 07, 10:31 PM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.headlines,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,ca.politics
Ilena Rose
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Posts: 1,139
Default Schoolgirl HPV jabs 'premature'

Myrl Jeffcoat (who coined the phrase 'double dipping') continues to
promote the unproven Merck Gardasil ... with this type of nonsense we
have come to expect from this pathological liar.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....b09975d1486334


www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html

Myrl Jeffcoat on comparing "9" post Merck's Gardasil related deaths in
the United States and 250,000 (estimated number of women worldwide who
are said to die from cervical cancer):

Myrl Jeffcoat Speak :
"Are you having issues with a sum-total that comes from subtracting 9
from 250,000?. . .Or is it that it makes it more difficult to paint
lipstick on your pig?"


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....473b5d160366f#
Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat tossing out her muddled and confused
accusations against me ... she has been widely claiming that this is a
"simple math" question ... here's Myrl's math:

MyrlSpeak (Ilena is the "she's" Myrl is insulting)
She's so focused on bashing the idea that a
vaccine may prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths, that she is
reluctant to do the math. . .250,000 - 7 = 243,000 possible lives
saved!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks here to Vince who corrected Myrl's disinformation and
irrational "simple math:

Lets correct the math
"NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Aug 24 - A prophylactic vaccine against
human papillomavirus (HPV) types 16 and 18 has the potential for
preventing at least half the cases of invasive cervical cancer and
high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions worldwide, investigators
report in the August 1st issue of the International Journal of
Cancer.

Dr. Jennifer S. Smith, of the University of North Carolina, Chapel
Hill, and colleagues conducted a meta-analysis of HPV type
distribution worldwide in 14,595 cases of invasive cervical cancer
(ICC) and 7,094 cases of high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions
(HSIL).'" and she found... " The HPV 16/18 prevalence was 52% in
HSIL." HSIL is the best surrogate for cancer.


Corrected amount 125,000 lives possibly saved
In US 1500 a year in Canada 200 maximum possible.
Has that reduction been proven .No .So far the studies show a no
decrease in stage 3 lesions the best surrogate for cancer and a 17%
reduction in stage 2 lesions . So the best marker stage 3 lesions has
not been decreased . How effective is it? Could it reduce cancer rates
by 40%? Maybe. ; could it have no effect absolutely.
One thing is sure its risk and benefit ratio is unproven. That's why
many Doctors with no vested interest have urged that it not be
mandated. One things for sure it will be expensive
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Old September 7th 07, 11:45 PM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.headlines,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,ca.politics
Myrl
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Posts: 185
Default Schoolgirl HPV jabs 'premature'

Ilena Rosenthal, in her attempts to bury the fact 250,000 - 290,000
women die each year from Cervical Cancer, continues to taut her "7"
associated deaths to Gardasil.

It has been estimated that upwards of 70% of the women, who have died
from Cervical Cancer, could have been protected with the Gardasil
vaccine, which protects against HPV strains responsible for Cervical
Cancer.

There has been NO PROOF that the 7 "associated deaths, were actually
caused by the vaccine, as Ilena Rosenthal represents. The number only
reports, that there was a deaths, and the individuals had also
received the vaccine. It DOES NOT STATE Gardasil caused the death.

Ilena Rosenthal's denial of the hudreds of thousands of deaths, to
Cervical Cancer each year, and her unwillingness to look at the
possibility that a large percentage could be saved with Gardasil, sets
her up as a very willing and EFFECTIVE shill for the Funeral Industry.





On Sep 7, 2:31 pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
Myrl Jeffcoat (who coined the phrase 'double dipping') continues to
promote the unproven Merck Gardasil ... with this type of nonsense we
have come to expect from this pathological liar.www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....browse_thread/...

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html

Myrl Jeffcoat on comparing "9" post Merck's Gardasil related deaths in
the United States and 250,000 (estimated number of women worldwide who
are said to die from cervical cancer):

Myrl Jeffcoat Speak :
"Are you having issues with a sum-total that comes from subtracting 9
from 250,000?. . .Or is it that it makes it more difficult to paint
lipstick on your pig?"

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....browse_thread/...
Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat tossing out her muddled and confused
accusations against me ... she has been widely claiming that this is a
"simple math" question ... here's Myrl's math:

MyrlSpeak (Ilena is the "she's" Myrl is insulting)
She's so focused on bashing the idea that a
vaccine may prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths, that she is
reluctant to do the math. . .250,000 - 7 = 243,000 possible lives
saved!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks here to Vince who corrected Myrl's disinformation and
irrational "simple math:

Lets correct the math
"NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Aug 24 - A prophylactic vaccine against
human papillomavirus (HPV) types 16 and 18 has the potential for
preventing at least half the cases of invasive cervical cancer and
high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions worldwide, investigators
report in the August 1st issue of the International Journal of
Cancer.

Dr. Jennifer S. Smith, of the University of North Carolina, Chapel
Hill, and colleagues conducted a meta-analysis of HPV type
distribution worldwide in 14,595 cases of invasive cervical cancer
(ICC) and 7,094 cases of high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions
(HSIL).'" and she found... " The HPV 16/18 prevalence was 52% in
HSIL." HSIL is the best surrogate for cancer.

Corrected amount 125,000 lives possibly saved
In US 1500 a year in Canada 200 maximum possible.
Has that reduction been proven .No .So far the studies show a no
decrease in stage 3 lesions the best surrogate for cancer and a 17%
reduction in stage 2 lesions . So the best marker stage 3 lesions has
not been decreased . How effective is it? Could it reduce cancer rates
by 40%? Maybe. ; could it have no effect absolutely.
One thing is sure its risk and benefit ratio is unproven. That's why
many Doctors with no vested interest have urged that it not be
mandated. One things for sure it will be expensive



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Old September 8th 07, 01:43 AM posted to alt.support.breast-implant,misc.headlines,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,ca.politics
Coleah
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Default Schoolgirl HPV jabs 'premature'

On Sep 7, 4:31 pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
Myrl Jeffcoat (who coined the phrase 'double dipping') continues to
promote the unproven Merck Gardasil ... with this type of nonsense we
have come to expect from this pathological


Ilena Rosenthal, how boring!
Discussion and sharing is not 'promoting' (except in your frenzied
conspiracy advertising-spree brain), which people have come
to ....gag, gag, gag......expect (on any subject, pick a subject).
Sigh.


 




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