In Response to Myrl Jeffcoat's Merck / Gardasil DISINFORMATION

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Myrl Jeffcoat on comparing "9" post Merck's Gardasil related deaths in
the United States and 250,000 (estimated number of women worldwide who
are said to die from cervical cancer):

Myrl Jeffcoat Speak :
"Are you having issues with a sum-total that comes from subtracting 9
from 250,000?. . .Or is it that it makes it more difficult to paint
lipstick on your pig?"


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....473b5d160366f#
Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat tossing out her muddled and confused
accusations against me ... she has been widely claiming that this is a
"simple math" question ... here's Myrl's math:

MyrlSpeak (Ilena is the "she's" Myrl is insulting)
She's so focused on bashing the idea that a
vaccine may prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths, that she is
reluctant to do the math. . .250,000 - 7 = 243,000 possible lives
saved!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks here to Vince who corrected Myrl's disinformation and
irrational "simple math:

Lets correct the math
"NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Aug 24 - A prophylactic vaccine against
human papillomavirus (HPV) types 16 and 18 has the potential for
preventing at least half the cases of invasive cervical cancer and
high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions worldwide, investigators
report in the August 1st issue of the International Journal of
Cancer.

Dr. Jennifer S. Smith, of the University of North Carolina, Chapel
Hill, and colleagues conducted a meta-analysis of HPV type
distribution worldwide in 14,595 cases of invasive cervical cancer
(ICC) and 7,094 cases of high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions
(HSIL).'" and she found... " The HPV 16/18 prevalence was 52% in
HSIL." HSIL is the best surrogate for cancer.


Corrected amount 125,000 lives possibly saved
In US 1500 a year in Canada 200 maximum possible.
Has that reduction been proven .No .So far the studies show a no
decrease in stage 3 lesions the best surrogate for cancer and a 17%
reduction in stage 2 lesions . So the best marker stage 3 lesions has
not been decreased . How effective is it? Could it reduce cancer rates
by 40%? Maybe. ; could it have no effect absolutely.
One thing is sure its risk and benefit ratio is unproven. That's why
many Doctors with no vested interest have urged that it not be
mandated. One things for sure it will be expensive

On Aug 26, 2:38 pm, Ilena Rose wrote:

Myrl Jeffcoat on comparing "9" post Merck's Gardasil related deaths in
the United States and 250,000 (estimated number of women worldwide who
are said to die from cervical cancer):



Ilena Hyena The Internet Rodeo Clown (Ilena Rosenthal) continues her
disinfo campaign to misquote me. I never quoted '9" related deaths
in
the UNITED STATES. The number I had quoted was among reading
material
that had quoted "9" globally. However, I am willing to settle for
Ilena Rosenthal's own "7" ASSOCIATED deaths with Gardasil in the
UNITED STATES. Again, there is NO proof, that her ASSOCIATED deaths
were ACTUALLY caused by Gardasil.

Compare that now to the estimated 250,000 - 290,000 global deaths
from
CERVICAL CANCER, each year. It has also been estimated that 70% of
these cancers are caused by the HPV virus, of which Gardasil could
protect against!

For the Facts and Information concerning Ilena Rosenthal, and her
Humantricks Floundation, please visit:

http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com

Read it and weap!

Ilena Rose wrote:

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Myrl Jeffcoat on comparing "9" post Merck's Gardasil related deaths in
the United States and 250,000 (estimated number of women worldwide who
are said to die from cervical cancer):

Actually, that's incorrect. To say that the nine deaths are related to
Gardasil is inaccurate. None have been shown to be related to Gardasil
in any way other than the people who died happened to have gotten the
vaccine before hand.

If I am incorrect, please provide the evidence that Gardasil contributed
to the deaths.

Jeff

Myrl Jeffcoat Speak :
"Are you having issues with a sum-total that comes from subtracting 9
from 250,000?. . .Or is it that it makes it more difficult to paint
lipstick on your pig?"


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....473b5d160366f#
Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat tossing out her muddled and confused
accusations against me ... she has been widely claiming that this is a
"simple math" question ... here's Myrl's math:

MyrlSpeak (Ilena is the "she's" Myrl is insulting)
She's so focused on bashing the idea that a
vaccine may prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths, that she is
reluctant to do the math. . .250,000 - 7 = 243,000 possible lives
saved!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks here to Vince who corrected Myrl's disinformation and
irrational "simple math:

Lets correct the math
"NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Aug 24 - A prophylactic vaccine against
human papillomavirus (HPV) types 16 and 18 has the potential for
preventing at least half the cases of invasive cervical cancer and
high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions worldwide, investigators
report in the August 1st issue of the International Journal of
Cancer.

Dr. Jennifer S. Smith, of the University of North Carolina, Chapel
Hill, and colleagues conducted a meta-analysis of HPV type
distribution worldwide in 14,595 cases of invasive cervical cancer
(ICC) and 7,094 cases of high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions
(HSIL).'" and she found... " The HPV 16/18 prevalence was 52% in
HSIL." HSIL is the best surrogate for cancer.


Corrected amount 125,000 lives possibly saved
In US 1500 a year in Canada 200 maximum possible.
Has that reduction been proven .No .So far the studies show a no
decrease in stage 3 lesions the best surrogate for cancer and a 17%
reduction in stage 2 lesions . So the best marker stage 3 lesions has
not been decreased . How effective is it? Could it reduce cancer rates
by 40%? Maybe. ; could it have no effect absolutely.
One thing is sure its risk and benefit ratio is unproven. That's why
many Doctors with no vested interest have urged that it not be
mandated. One things for sure it will be expensive

On Aug 26, 4:07 pm, Jeff wrote:
Ilena Rose wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....browse_thread/...

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html

Myrl Jeffcoat on comparing "9" post Merck's Gardasil related deaths in
the United States and 250,000 (estimated number of women worldwide who
are said to die from cervical cancer):

Actually, that's incorrect. To say that the nine deaths are related to
Gardasil is inaccurate. None have been shown to be related to Gardasil
in any way other than the people who died happened to have gotten the
vaccine before hand.

If I am incorrect, please provide the evidence that Gardasil contributed
to the deaths.

Jeff



Myrl Jeffcoat Speak :
"Are you having issues with a sum-total that comes from subtracting 9
from 250,000?. . .Or is it that it makes it more difficult to paint
lipstick on your pig?"

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....browse_thread/...
Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat tossing out her muddled and confused
accusations against me ... she has been widely claiming that this is a
"simple math" question ... here's Myrl's math:

MyrlSpeak (Ilena is the "she's" Myrl is insulting)
She's so focused on bashing the idea that a
vaccine may prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths, that she is
reluctant to do the math. . .250,000 - 7 = 243,000 possible lives
saved!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks here to Vince who corrected Myrl's disinformation and
irrational "simple math:

Lets correct the math
"NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Aug 24 - A prophylactic vaccine against
human papillomavirus (HPV) types 16 and 18 has the potential for
preventing at least half the cases of invasive cervical cancer and
high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions worldwide, investigators
report in the August 1st issue of the International Journal of
Cancer.

Dr. Jennifer S. Smith, of the University of North Carolina, Chapel
Hill, and colleagues conducted a meta-analysis of HPV type
distribution worldwide in 14,595 cases of invasive cervical cancer
(ICC) and 7,094 cases of high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions
(HSIL).'" and she found... " The HPV 16/18 prevalence was 52% in
HSIL." HSIL is the best surrogate for cancer.

Corrected amount 125,000 lives possibly saved
In US 1500 a year in Canada 200 maximum possible.
Has that reduction been proven .No .So far the studies show a no
decrease in stage 3 lesions the best surrogate for cancer and a 17%
reduction in stage 2 lesions . So the best marker stage 3 lesions has
not been decreased . How effective is it? Could it reduce cancer rates
by 40%? Maybe. ; could it have no effect absolutely.
One thing is sure its risk and benefit ratio is unproven. That's why
many Doctors with no vested interest have urged that it not be
mandated. One things for sure it will be expensive- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Thank you Jeff, for reiterating that point! Ilena continues to
adamently claim her "7" deaths were caused by Gardasil, but has
provided no proof of it!

Jeff & Jeffcoat .... Gardasil Promoters are misrepresenting the little
that is known about Gardasil.

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You refuse to give the "reliable source" that claimed "9" reported
deaths soon after young people received your Gardasil ...

Yet you repeat the Merck Propaganda.

Jeff P Utz (at least he doesn't lie anymore about being a pediatrician
as he did before) ... using a study funded 100% by Merck ... claims
that the vaccinations are good for 5 years ... even though this was
"tested " on pre-pubescent and early teenager girls for 18 months at
the most.

Myrl Jeffcoat ... you are virtually frothing at the mouth you are so
busted with your false facts and your silicone shuffle regarding
deaths immediately following Gardasil.

You totally misrepresent me and what I believe about vaccinations ...
identical to your total and utter misrepresentation of who I am and
why I have devoted 12 years of my life to raising awareness to the
dangers of breast implants ...

While being battered and assaulted daily for 12 years by O'leary,
Schaezler, Penely Ayers and you ...

You sing the Quackwatch / Vaccination Industry Songs ...

You are making a fool of yourself and all your projecting your sins
onto me still reflects them back to YOU.

Ilena Rose wrote:

...

claims
that the vaccinations are good for 5 years ... even though this was
"tested " on pre-pubescent and early teenager girls for 18 months at
the most.

A subset of participants (n = 241) in the phase II quadrivalent HPV
vaccine study (protocol 007) is being followed for 60 months after dose
one. In a combined analysis of all participants through year 3 and a
subset through 60 months, the efficacy against vaccine HPV type
persistent infection or disease was 95.8% (CI = 83.8%--99.5%) and
efficacy against vaccine-type--related CIN or external genital lesions
was 100% (CI = 12.4%--100%) (110).

Follow-up studies are planned by Merck and Co., Inc. to determine
duration of protection among women enrolled in the phase III studies
through 3 years after dose 3. Additional data on duration of protection
will be available from follow-up of approximately 5,500 women enrolled
in one of the phase III quadrivalent HPV vaccine studies in the Nordic
countries. These women will be followed for at least 14 years; serologic
testing will be conducted 5 and 10 years after vaccination; and Pap
testing results will be linked to data from vaccine registries to
monitor outcomes.

From: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5602a1.htm

Myrl Jeffcoat ... you are virtually frothing at the mouth you are so
busted with your false facts and your silicone shuffle regarding
deaths immediately following Gardasil.

You are so funny. Have you thought about stand-up? Facts aren't that
important in comedy, either. Perhaps you can find a spot on David Letterman.

Perhaps you should provide the evidence that the deaths were caused by
Gardasil or at least that Gardasil contributed to the deaths.

So far, you have provided no evidence that Gardasil has anything to do
with the deaths.

Again, Confusion is the devil's tool. You are using it well.

rest of doo-doo deleted

Jeff

On Aug 26, 5:35 pm, Ilena Rose wrote:

You refuse to give the "reliable source" that claimed "9" reported
deaths soon after young people received your Gardasil ...


Ilena! - I'm totally willing to accept your "7" possible deaths
instead. We must all remember however, that these deaths, are not
proven to be caused by Gardasil. They are only reported as
"associated."

http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com

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Seeing Myrl Jeffcoat & Jeff Utz in their mutual disinformation
campaign about Gardasil ... and watching desperate Myrl kiss up to Utz
is perfect.



Reminds me of Utz's quote about breast implants ... long after over
250,000 had sent in adverse reports to the FDA.

Using typical Quack Logic and Disinformation ... he lied to the world
claiming:

"there is no evidence that *silicon implants harm anyone"

He was lying about implants .. and now he, with Myrl Jeffcoat's
idiotic double speak ... is lying about Gardasil.

Ilena Rose wrote:

...

He was lying about implants .. and now he, with Myrl Jeffcoat's
idiotic double speak ... is lying about Gardasil.

First of all, I have never lied. I may have had a different point of you
than you, but that doesn't mean that disagreeing with you is lying.

Second, you have to support your contention's that I am lying or
incorrect about Gardasil. I have shown that I was correct about vaccine
recipients be followed for up to 60 months.

You have not shown that Gardasil has contributed to any death.

You are good at using the tool of the Devil, confusion.

Until you are able to back your claims, I am not going to waste any time
responding to your claims in this thread.

IMHO, you are not worth my time.

Have a lovely evening.

Jeff






You have failed to provide evidence

Wrong Jeff.

Over 250,000 women who made reports to the FDA WERE INDEED HARMED.

The rest is just your typical Quack Flack ...you are too blind, deaf
and dumb to know of the vast damage done by breast implants ... and
now you're doing the same silicone shuffle tap dance to sell Gardasil.

Thank God you no longer are allowed to "practice" medicine on anyone.

That your "restricted" medical license was NOT renewed was a blessing
for innocent patients.

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