Chemist says mercury linked to autism spike

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Rob Zaleski: Chemist says mercury linked to autism spike

By Rob Zaleski
December 16, 2005


Flu shots no longer contain any Mercury. Ask any real doctor.

I asked the CDC and they said:

"Today, with the exception of some Influenza (flu) vaccines, none of the
vaccines used in the U.S. to protect preschool children against 12
infectious diseases contain thimerosal as a preservative."

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/conce...al/default.htm

Take note of the FACT that Mark did NOT have the integrity to correct,
Robert's statement!

Why's more, YOU didn't ask, you looked it up. You simply can NOT post
without LYING.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm

Updated: September 22, 2005


Is influenza vaccine that does not contain thimerosal as a preservative
available this flu season (2005-2006)?


For the 2005-06 flu season, a* limited amount* of influenza vaccine that
does not contain thimerosal as a preservative is available. Sanofi pasteur
estimates that they will produce 6-8 million doses of thimerosal-free
vaccine this year. GlaxoSmithKline projects that they will produce 8 million
doses of preservative-free vaccine for use in people 18 years of age and
over. A minimal number of preservative-free vaccine may be available from
Chiron late in the influenza season. Also, the nasal-spray influenza vaccine
(sold commercially as FluMist®) does not contain any thimerosal and can be
given to healthy people 5 to 49 years of age who are not pregnant.

This is ALL a diversion from what John posted.

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Rob Zaleski: Chemist says mercury linked to autism spike

By Rob Zaleski
December 16, 2005


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His detractors call him an alarmist.

"They hate me," Mike Wagnitz acknowledged in an interview this week.

But if that's what it takes to get people's attention, hey, call him an

alarmist or anything else you want, Wagnitz said with a laugh.

A senior state chemist, Wagnitz is making health experts uneasy because
of
his public statements urging people to think twice before getting a flu

shot this season. He thinks the shots are especially risky for pregnant

women and young kids.

Why? Because about 95 percent of the doses being distributed this
winter
contain thimerosal, the mercury-based preservative that Wagnitz and
others
believe is responsible for the startling increase in autism cases in
the
United States since the early 1990s.

The federal government says that's hokum, noting that despite years of
study there's no scientific evidence that mercury in vaccines causes
autism. However, as a precaution, the U.S. Public Health Service in the

late 1990s asked manufacturers to start phasing thimerosal out of
childhood
vaccines.

In fact, both the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention say flu shots are absolutely essential
for
pregnant women and infants 6 to 23 months old. As for potential risks,
they
claim that the amount of thimerosal in a child's dose is so tiny it
poses
virtually no risk at all - a claim Wagnitz says is "pure propaganda."

Still, health experts admit they have more questions than answers about

autism. As the National Institute of Mental Health noted in its 2005
annual
report on autism to Congress, "There are no effective means to prevent
the
disorder, no fully effective treatment and no cure."

Wagnitz, 52, has been speaking out about the possible link between
vaccines
and autism for several years now, ever since his daughter Josie, now 8,
was
diagnosed with autism in 2001.

To say he was shocked would be a colossal understatement, says Wagnitz,

"because, frankly, I'd never even heard of autism before that. I was
this
trusting person who just did what the doctor told me to do."

Then he began doing some research, and the deeper he dug, the more
troubled
he became. After doing "some simple fifth-grade math," Wagnitz says he
figured out that the amount of mercury in flu shots - 50,000 micrograms
per
liter in the multi-dose vials - is 250 times the amount that's
considered
safe for liquid hazardous waste.

That's when he got mad and began started asking some very pointed
questions. So have a lot of other people - including Robert Kennedy Jr.

who, like Wagnitz, believes that all vaccines should be thimerosal-free

despite the higher costs involved.

They want to know why, according to some scientists, the estimated
number
of cases of autism has increased a mind-boggling 1,500 percent since
1991,
when the number of childhood vaccinations doubled.

And they want to know why one in every 166 children has autism today
compared to one in every 2,500 in 1991.

"The government says they're just doing a better job of noticing it,"
says
Wagnitz. But anyone who's been around autistic kids and knows how loud
and
disruptive they can be finds that extremely hard to believe, he says.

"I mean, like Robert Kennedy Jr. said, 'Missing a kid with autism is
like
missing a train wreck.' So when they say they're doing a better job of
finding them, I say, 'Then where are all the 30-year-olds and
40-year-olds
with autism?'"

Though he certainly doesn't relish the criticism, Wagnitz says his skin
is
"thicker than leather right now" and that he'll continue to speak out
until
all vaccines are thimerosal-free.

"No one wants to talk about my message. All they want to do is destroy
the
messenger," he says. "I mean, liquid waste needs to go to a hazardous
waste
site if it contains more than 200 parts per billion of mercury. So
anyone
with common sense would say you don't want to be injecting people with
250
times more mercury than hazardous waste.

"What more do you need to know?"

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Rob Zaleski: Chemist says mercury linked to autism spike

By Rob Zaleski
December 16, 2005

Flu shots no longer contain any Mercury. Ask any real doctor.

Robert

per http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm
"Does the influenza vaccine contain thimerosal?
Yes, the majority of influenza vaccines distributed in the
United States currently contain thimerosal as a preservative."
"Thimerosal contains approximately 49% ethylmercury. "

Proving Robert was WRONG.

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Rob Zaleski: Chemist says mercury linked to autism spike

By Rob Zaleski
December 16, 2005

Flu shots no longer contain any Mercury. Ask any real doctor.

Robert

per http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm
"Does the influenza vaccine contain thimerosal?
Yes, the majority of influenza vaccines distributed in the
United States currently contain thimerosal as a preservative."
"Thimerosal contains approximately 49% ethylmercury. "

pharmacist friend maintains multiple dose vials of flu vaccine all
contain mercury as a preservative/antibacterial. the single dose vials
do not have mercury as a preservative, but have had mercury added
during the initial processing of the vaccine. the resultant single
dose vials have a minute amount of mercury, esp in comparison to the
multiple dose vials. one can request one's physician order single
dose vial flu vaccine. It is more expensive.
(2-5-04) BOSTON, Mass. - According to new research from Northeastern
University pharmacy professor Richard Deth and colleagues from the
University of Nebraska, Tufts, and Johns Hopkins University, there is
an apparent link between exposure to certain neurodevelopmental toxins
and an increased possibility of developing neurological disorders
including autism and attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder. The
research - the first to offer an explanation for possible causes of
two increasingly common childhood neurological disorders - is
published today in the April 2004 issue of the journal Molecular
Psychiatry.

Though some speculation exists regarding this link, Deth and his
colleagues found that exposure to toxins, such as ethanol and heavy
metals (including lead, aluminum and the ethylmercury-containing
preservative thimerosal) potently interrupt growth factor signaling,
causing adverse effects on methylation reactions (i.e. the transfer of
carbon atoms). Methylation, in turn, plays a significant role in
regulating normal DNA function and gene expression, and is critical to
proper neurological development in infants and children. Scientists and
practitioners have identified an increase in diagnoses of autism and
ADHD in particular, though the reasons why are largely unknown.

In their work, the scientists found that insulin-like growth factor-1
(IGF-1) and the neurotransmitter dopamine both stimulated
folate-dependent methylation pathways in neuronal cells. At the same
time they noted that compounds like thimerosal, ethanol and metals
(like lead and mercury) effectively inhibited these same biochemical
pathways at concentrations that are typically found following
vaccination or other sources of exposure. By better understanding what
happens when infants and children are exposed to these materials, the
work of Deth and his colleagues helps to explain how environmental
contact with metals and administration of certain vaccines may lead to
serious disorders that manifest themselves during childhood, including
autism and ADHD.

"Scientists certainly acknowledge that exposure to neurotoxins like
ethanol and heavy metals can cause developmental disorders, but until
now, the precise mechanisms underlying their toxicity have not been
known," said Deth. "The recent increase in the incidence of autism
led us to speculate that environmental exposures, including vaccine
additives might contribute to the triggering of this disorder."

Thimerosal, which was largely phased out in the U.S. and in Europe
starting in 2000,was often used for its preservative abilities in
multi-dose units of vaccines for diseases like hepatitis, whooping
cough, tetanus and diptheria. Today, most vaccines carry only trace
amounts of it, according to the CDC. But in larger, multi-dose vials of
these vaccines, often shipped to and used in third world countries,
thimerosal is still very common. Multi-dose flu vaccines still contain
thimerosal.

Additionally, the scientists recently obtained more insight into the
mechanism by which thimerosal interferes with folate-dependent
methylation. It acts by inhibiting the biosynthesis of the active form
of vitamin B12 (methylcobalamin), which is of particular interest
because doctors treating autistic kids are having good success with the
administration of methycobalamin.

Northeastern University, a private research institution located in
Boston, Massachusetts, is a world leader in practice-oriented
education. Building on its flagship cooperative education program,
Northeastern links classroom learning with workplace experience and
integrates professional preparation with study in the liberal arts and
sciences. U.S. News & World Report, in its annual guide America's
Best Colleges, 2003, ranked Northeastern University number one in the
country among programs that "require or encourage students to apply
what they're learning in the classroom out in the real world." In
addition, Northeastern's career services was top ranked by Kaplan
Newsweek's "Unofficial Insiders Guide to the 320 Most Interesting
Colleges and Universities," 2003 edition. For more information, please
visit http://www.northeastern.edu.

Paper in full at this link:

http://www.nupr.neu.edu/2-04/deth_article.pdf
Mol Psychiatry. 2004 Apr;9(4):358-70. Related Articles, Links


Activation of methionine synthase by insulin-like growth factor-1 and
dopamine: a target for neurodevelopmental toxins and thimerosal.

Waly M, Olteanu H, Banerjee R, Choi SW, Mason JB, Parker BS, Sukumar S,
Shim S, Sharma A, Benzecry JM, Power-Charnitsky VA, Deth RC.

Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Northeastern University, Boston,
MA 02115, USA.

Methylation events play a critical role in the ability of growth
factors to promote normal development. Neurodevelopmental toxins, such
as ethanol and heavy metals, interrupt growth factor signaling, raising
the possibility that they might exert adverse effects on methylation.
We found that insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1)- and
dopamine-stimulated methionine synthase (MS) activity and
folate-dependent methylation of phospholipids in SH-SY5Y human
neuroblastoma cells, via a PI3-kinase- and MAP-kinase-dependent
mechanism. The stimulation of this pathway increased DNA methylation,
while its inhibition increased methylation-sensitive gene expression.
Ethanol potently interfered with IGF-1 activation of MS and blocked its
effect on DNA methylation, whereas it did not inhibit the effects of
dopamine. Metal ions potently affected IGF-1 and dopamine-stimulated MS
activity, as well as folate-dependent phospholipid methylation: Cu(2+)
promoted enzyme activity and methylation, while Cu(+), Pb(2+), Hg(2+)
and Al(3+) were inhibitory. The ethylmercury-containing preservative
thimerosal inhibited both IGF-1- and dopamine-stimulated methylation
with an IC(50) of 1 nM and eliminated MS activity. Our findings outline
a novel growth factor signaling pathway that regulates MS activity and
thereby modulates methylation reactions, including DNA methylation. The
potent inhibition of this pathway by ethanol, lead, mercury, aluminum
and thimerosal suggests that it may be an important target of
neurodevelopmental toxins.

PMID: 14745455 [PubMed - in process]

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Rob Zaleski: Chemist says mercury linked to autism spike

By Rob Zaleski
December 16, 2005


Flu shots no longer contain any Mercury. Ask any real doctor.

I asked the CDC and they said:

"Today, with the exception of some Influenza (flu) vaccines, none of the
vaccines used in the U.S. to protect preschool children against 12
infectious diseases contain thimerosal as a preservative."

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/conce...al/default.htm

Take note of the FACT that Mark did NOT have the integrity to correct,
Robert's statement!

Are you really this stupid? What I posted clearly corrects what Robert
said. You are really getting more ill by the post. Perhaps checking into
a rest home would help.

Why's more, YOU didn't ask, you looked it up. You simply can NOT post
without LYING.

I went to the CDC website, and looked it up. So what if I used the verb
"asked"?

You are really a very sick woman. Please get help.



http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm

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Rob Zaleski: Chemist says mercury linked to autism spike

By Rob Zaleski
December 16, 2005


Flu shots no longer contain any Mercury. Ask any real doctor.

Robert

per http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm
"Does the influenza vaccine contain thimerosal?
Yes, the majority of influenza vaccines distributed in the
United States currently contain thimerosal as a preservative."
"Thimerosal contains approximately 49% ethylmercury. "


Proving Robert was WRONG.

I am surprised that you did not call him a liar. Perhaps next time.

[snip irrelevant issue to this thread]

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Mark Probert is correct that mercury is not present in
pediatric vaccines as a result of the advice of the
American Academy of Pediatrics and others.

That is not irrelevant, as you bleated and brayed about my post which
JustEd was referring to. You see, I was correct, and you are a sick
woman who should check into:

Meadows Hospital
3600 North Prow Road
Bloomington, IN 47404


A good rest will do you good.

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Rob Zaleski: Chemist says mercury linked to autism spike

By Rob Zaleski
December 16, 2005


Flu shots no longer contain any Mercury. Ask any real doctor.

Robert


http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm

Updated: September 14, 2004

Does the influenza vaccine contain thimerosal?

Yes, the majority of influenza vaccines distributed in the United States
currently contain thimerosal as a preservative.

Jan, I had already posted:

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm

which covered the issue. Are you obsessed with having the last word?

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Rob Zaleski: Chemist says mercury linked to autism spike

By Rob Zaleski
December 16, 2005


Flu shots no longer contain any Mercury. Ask any real doctor.

I asked the CDC and they said:

"Today, with the exception of some Influenza (flu) vaccines, none of the
vaccines used in the U.S. to protect preschool children against 12
infectious diseases contain thimerosal as a preservative."

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/conce...al/default.htm

Take note of the FACT that Mark did NOT have the integrity to correct,
Robert's statement!

Are you really this stupid? What I posted clearly corrects what Robert
said. You are really getting more ill by the post. Perhaps checking into a
rest home would help.

Take note, NOT only was I correct, Mark now adds his usual insult.

Why's more, YOU didn't ask, you looked it up. You simply can NOT post
without LYING.

I went to the CDC website, and looked it up. So what if I used the verb
"asked"?

You are really a very sick woman. Please get help.

Take note, NOT only was I correct, Mark now adds his usual insult.





http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm

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Rob Zaleski: Chemist says mercury linked to autism spike

By Rob Zaleski
December 16, 2005


Flu shots no longer contain any Mercury. Ask any real doctor.

Robert

per http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm
"Does the influenza vaccine contain thimerosal?
Yes, the majority of influenza vaccines distributed in the
United States currently contain thimerosal as a preservative."
"Thimerosal contains approximately 49% ethylmercury. "


Proving Robert was WRONG.


[snip irrelevant issue to this thread]

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Rob Zaleski: Chemist says mercury linked to autism spike

By Rob Zaleski
December 16, 2005


Flu shots no longer contain any Mercury. Ask any real doctor.

Robert


http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm

Updated: September 14, 2004

Does the influenza vaccine contain thimerosal?

Yes, the majority of influenza vaccines distributed in the United States
currently contain thimerosal as a preservative.

Jan, I had already posted:

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm

which covered the issue. Are you obsessed with having the last word?

You simply can NOT post without LYING.

The FACT is, you did NOT post, the above link, *I* did.

You posted:

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/conce...al/default.htm