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Old December 8th 06, 10:09 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
Greegor
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Default Report on foster death urges placement reform

EVERY Foster is a private contractor.


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Michael wrote:
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Ever notice how many of these cases involved private non-profits, or
possibly even for profit contractors?

"The report, which says the Carrolls were unqualified to care for the
boy,
details problems in handling his case and the private agency that
recommended the Carrolls."

Among my first posts to this ng, and many time in the ensuing years,
I've commented that I fault the states (It's NOT by CPS's choice, trust
me) for farming out services the state is responsible for, and then not
dealing with the extra layer of bureaucracy effectively.

In fact, I don't support any farming out to vendors except where it's
obvious the ebb and flow is sporadic. Health care would be an example.
Fine, use private doctors.

Foster care management going to a private agency? Nope...that invites
disaster.

And it always ends up defeating the stated reason for doing it: better
service, lower cost.

Neither has ever actually happened.

Rather than cursing CPS, try focusing on that famous saying, "follow
the money."

And who makes privitization possible? It ain't CPS folks. They hate it.
Precisely because they are NOT given sufficient authority AND STAFF to
oversee the contractors.

Yes, boys, it's the politicos. Same thing happened when mental health
for CMIs was created and all the folks went back to their communities.

Guess what profession owns the most "CMI residences?" Yep, lawyers.

Gosh, could there be a connection.

I mean, you are aware of what profession dominates politics, right?

And Richard Wexle? He's a journalist...making his living apparently off
tragedy.

He makes claims, and yet offers few practical solutions.

While he says "authorities should do more to keep children with their
birth
parents," he offers no practical solutions, and is among the first, if
memory serves, to complain that CPS doesn't do enough to protect
children when a parent kills them.

If ever there was an easy job. Just become a paid critic.

Kane


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Report on foster death urges placement reform
Tuesday, November 28, 2006
Dan Sewell
Associated Press

Cincinnati - More thorough investigation and better communication among
agencies could have prevented the placement of a 3-year-old developmentally
disabled boy with the foster parents accused of killing him, according to a
state report released Monday.

"The death of any child is tragic; to die under circumstances alleged in
this case is only more so," according to the report by the Ohio Department
of Job & Family Services. "This case beckons reform of Ohio's system to
better serve all foster children."

Liz and David Carroll Jr. are accused of leaving Marcus Fiesel alone in a
closet for two days, wrapped in a blanket and packing tape. Authorities say
the boy was dead when they returned to their home in Clermont County from a
family reunion in Kentucky.

The couple reported the boy missing Aug. 15, triggering a massive search for
the child who supposedly had wandered off in a public park. The Carrolls
were arrested Aug. 28 and have pleaded not guilty to murder charges.

The report, which says the Carrolls were unqualified to care for the boy,
details problems in handling his case and the private agency that
recommended the Carrolls. It also makes a broad range of recommendations
that include increased training and widened background checks for foster
parents.

"We cannot create a fail-safe system, but I believe we can create a better
system," said Barbara Riley, director of the Ohio department.

State lawmakers have said the report will help in developing reform
legislation.

About 10,000 children are in foster care in Ohio. Richard Wexler, executive
director of the Virginia-based National Coalition for Child Protection
Reform, said authorities should do more to keep children with their birth
parents.
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Old December 8th 06, 01:47 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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Default Report on foster death urges placement reform


Greegor wrote:
EVERY Foster is a private contractor.


By your logic that would make every management level, supervisor on up,
a private contractor. They do sign one in most business, industry and
government.

Everyone is a "contractor" in the sense you are trying to use it.

So, are foster's who sign with the state individually an organization
that is immune from oversight like is built into too many of these
organizations with top heavy politico buddy structures, or are you
hungery to get in on the take and don't want to sort out where the
blame really is?

Kane



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Ever notice how many of these cases involved private non-profits, or
possibly even for profit contractors?

"The report, which says the Carrolls were unqualified to care for the
boy,
details problems in handling his case and the private agency that
recommended the Carrolls."

Among my first posts to this ng, and many time in the ensuing years,
I've commented that I fault the states (It's NOT by CPS's choice, trust
me) for farming out services the state is responsible for, and then not
dealing with the extra layer of bureaucracy effectively.

In fact, I don't support any farming out to vendors except where it's
obvious the ebb and flow is sporadic. Health care would be an example.
Fine, use private doctors.

Foster care management going to a private agency? Nope...that invites
disaster.

And it always ends up defeating the stated reason for doing it: better
service, lower cost.

Neither has ever actually happened.

Rather than cursing CPS, try focusing on that famous saying, "follow
the money."

And who makes privitization possible? It ain't CPS folks. They hate it.
Precisely because they are NOT given sufficient authority AND STAFF to
oversee the contractors.

Yes, boys, it's the politicos. Same thing happened when mental health
for CMIs was created and all the folks went back to their communities.

Guess what profession owns the most "CMI residences?" Yep, lawyers.

Gosh, could there be a connection.

I mean, you are aware of what profession dominates politics, right?

And Richard Wexle? He's a journalist...making his living apparently off
tragedy.

He makes claims, and yet offers few practical solutions.

While he says "authorities should do more to keep children with their
birth
parents," he offers no practical solutions, and is among the first, if
memory serves, to complain that CPS doesn't do enough to protect
children when a parent kills them.

If ever there was an easy job. Just become a paid critic.

Kane


s

Report on foster death urges placement reform
Tuesday, November 28, 2006
Dan Sewell
Associated Press

Cincinnati - More thorough investigation and better communication among
agencies could have prevented the placement of a 3-year-old developmentally
disabled boy with the foster parents accused of killing him, according to a
state report released Monday.

"The death of any child is tragic; to die under circumstances alleged in
this case is only more so," according to the report by the Ohio Department
of Job & Family Services. "This case beckons reform of Ohio's system to
better serve all foster children."

Liz and David Carroll Jr. are accused of leaving Marcus Fiesel alone in a
closet for two days, wrapped in a blanket and packing tape. Authorities say
the boy was dead when they returned to their home in Clermont County from a
family reunion in Kentucky.

The couple reported the boy missing Aug. 15, triggering a massive search for
the child who supposedly had wandered off in a public park. The Carrolls
were arrested Aug. 28 and have pleaded not guilty to murder charges.

The report, which says the Carrolls were unqualified to care for the boy,
details problems in handling his case and the private agency that
recommended the Carrolls. It also makes a broad range of recommendations
that include increased training and widened background checks for foster
parents.

"We cannot create a fail-safe system, but I believe we can create a better
system," said Barbara Riley, director of the Ohio department.

State lawmakers have said the report will help in developing reform
legislation.

About 10,000 children are in foster care in Ohio. Richard Wexler, executive
director of the Virginia-based National Coalition for Child Protection
Reform, said authorities should do more to keep children with their birth
parents.
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Michael
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