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Peds want soda ban
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/05/education/05SODA.html
Soft drinks should be eliminated from schools to help tackle the nation's obesity epidemic, the American Academy of Pediatrics says. In a new policy statement, the academy says that pediatricians should contact local superintendents and school board members and "emphasize the notion that every school in every district shares a responsibility for the nutritional health of its students." |
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Peds want soda ban
"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message
t... http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/05/education/05SODA.html Soft drinks should be eliminated from schools to help tackle the nation's obesity epidemic, the American Academy of Pediatrics says. In a new policy statement, the academy says that pediatricians should contact local superintendents and school board members and "emphasize the notion that every school in every district shares a responsibility for the nutritional health of its students." Ah, those impetuous peds! Don't they realize that "every school in every district" is simply too darn busy attending to its responsibility regarding the educational "health" of its students?!? ......er....um....never mind.... |
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Peds want soda ban
"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message
t... http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/05/education/05SODA.html Here are a couple of relevant articles from The Center For Consumer Freedom: http://www.consumerfreedom.com/headl...ADLINE_ID=2083 http://www.consumerfreedom.com/headl...ADLINE_ID=1953 |
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Peds want soda ban
"JG" wrote in message t... "Roger Schlafly" wrote in message t... http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/05/education/05SODA.html Soft drinks should be eliminated from schools to help tackle the nation's obesity epidemic, the American Academy of Pediatrics says. In a new policy statement, the academy says that pediatricians should contact local superintendents and school board members and "emphasize the notion that every school in every district shares a responsibility for the nutritional health of its students." Ah, those impetuous peds! Don't they realize that "every school in every district" is simply too darn busy attending to its responsibility regarding the educational "health" of its students?!? .....er....um....never mind.... I guess this is a situation of where school districts should teach by example. And I agree 100% with the AAP on this one. Jeff |
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Peds want soda ban
"JG" wrote in message et...
"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message t... http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/05/education/05SODA.html Soft drinks should be eliminated from schools to help tackle the nation's obesity epidemic, the American Academy of Pediatrics says. In a new policy statement, the academy says that pediatricians should contact local superintendents and school board members and "emphasize the notion that every school in every district shares a responsibility for the nutritional health of its students." Ah, those impetuous peds! Don't they realize that "every school in every district" is simply too darn busy attending to its responsibility regarding the educational "health" of its students?!? .....er....um....never mind.... Um, okay, I'm missing the huge affront here. I don't really see depriving kids of soda-purchasing opportunities during school hours as limiting their freedom significantly. As long as it would be the right of a parent to send a soda to school with the child, it wouldn't bother me. JG, do you think anything ought to be done by any sort of public servant about the way Americans are ballooning into giant butterballs? If you believe that this is all a matter of personal responsibility, can you describe a plausible chain of events that leads to each individual butterball waking up one morning and saying, "Gosh! It's time to change my entire way of life! No more fast food, no more TV... I'm going to take responsibility for my life and start eating healthier food, spending more time exercising, and teaching my kids to do the same!" Or is it just that you think anyone who doesn't do the above is better off prematurely ill or dead? Beth |
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Peds want soda ban
"JG" wrote
Ah, those impetuous peds! ... Here is the ped link. It says: nutritious alternatives such as water, real fruit juices and low-fat milks are available for vending, and can help preserve school revenues. http://www.aap.org/advocacy/releases/jansoftdrinks.htm Apparently the AAP also disapproves of schools selling whole milk, and only wants kids drinking low-fat milk. It also thinks that the schools should be selling water as a nutritious alternative. I always thought that the schools let kids use the drinking fountain for free. Maybe the AAP thinks that the schools can just put bottled water in the coke machines, and kids will happily pay for it. It explains that milk is more nutritious than soda because it contains calcium, but why does it think that water is more nutritious than soda? Soda is 98% water. If the AAP is really so concerned about the sugar in soda, why doesn't it say that diet sodas are ok? And doesn't it realize that fruit juices also have sugar in them? The recommendation ends by saying that the vending machines should be moved outside the cafeteria, so that kids buy their drinks at times other than lunch. Yet another wacky and unfounded AAP recommendation ... |
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Peds want soda ban
"Elizabeth Reid" wrote in message
om... "JG" wrote in message et... "Roger Schlafly" wrote in message t... http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/05/education/05SODA.html Soft drinks should be eliminated from schools to help tackle the nation's obesity epidemic, the American Academy of Pediatrics says. In a new policy statement, the academy says that pediatricians should contact local superintendents and school board members and "emphasize the notion that every school in every district shares a responsibility for the nutritional health of its students." Ah, those impetuous peds! Don't they realize that "every school in every district" is simply too darn busy attending to its responsibility regarding the educational "health" of its students?!? .....er....um....never mind.... Um, okay, I'm missing the huge affront here. Schools (administrators, faculty), generally speaking, are failing at the *one* task with which few would disagree they're charged: educating our youth. (I'd settle for simply producing a literate populace; "education," IMO, is a personal endeavor.) We (society) have already added students' mental/psychological well-being to list of things we expect schools to achieve/ensure, and now, apparently, the APA wants to charge schools with the task of seeing that kids slim down by (initially)--tada!--banning the sale of soft drinks. I don't really see depriving kids of soda-purchasing opportunities during school hours as limiting their freedom significantly. As long as it would be the right of a parent to send a soda to school with the child, it wouldn't bother me. Nor I. Do you honestly think, however, that school district administrators/personnel wouldn't bemoan the lost revenue, or that the APA wouldn't prefer that schools totally ban "unhealthy" foods/beverages from campuses? ("This school is a 'junk food'-free zone.") JG, do you think anything ought to be done by any sort of public servant about the way Americans are ballooning into giant butterballs? What's a "public servant"? g Government can, and should, play a role in safeguarding *public* health. I have little objection to bureaucrats monitoring and takng (LEGAL) measures to mitigate situations that pose a threat to the public at large. Weight (obesity) is a *private* issue; the gubmnt's only basis/rationale for intervention in this arena is the claim that weight-induced health problems (diabetes, cardiovascular disease, etc.) among those receiving public assistance (Medicaid, Medicare) impose a financial burden on taxpayers. (This is a separate subject open to debate. Perhaps public assistance recipients who have a weight-induced disease will die younger because of it, thus potentially saving "us" $$$ in the long run.) At any rate, gubmnt health programs should never have been instituted in the first place. (Anyone care to cite just where in the Constitution "public assistance"--publicly funded assistance to *individuals*--is addressed?) If you believe that this is all a matter of personal responsibility, can you describe a plausible chain of events that leads to each individual butterball waking up one morning and saying, "Gosh! It's time to change my entire way of life! No more fast food, no more TV... I'm going to take responsibility for my life and start eating healthier food, spending more time exercising, and teaching my kids to do the same!" Or is it just that you think anyone who doesn't do the above is better off prematurely ill or dead? Straw man. I don't think it's anyone's, or any group's (private or public), right to tell individuals *who pose no threat to others* how to live their lives (let alone force them adhere to arbitrary dictates!)-- do you? Each "individual butterball" must live, or die, by his/her choices. The gubmnt (and food manufacturers/distributors, including schools) hasn't made anyone fat; it's not its responsibility to make anyone healthy, either. |
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Peds want soda ban
"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message
t... "JG" wrote Ah, those impetuous peds! ... Here is the ped link. It says: nutritious alternatives such as water, real fruit juices and low-fat milks are available for vending, and can help preserve school revenues. http://www.aap.org/advocacy/releases/jansoftdrinks.htm Apparently the AAP also disapproves of schools selling whole milk, and only wants kids drinking low-fat milk. It also thinks that the schools should be selling water as a nutritious alternative. I always thought that the schools let kids use the drinking fountain for free. Maybe the AAP thinks that the schools can just put bottled water in the coke machines, and kids will happily pay for it. It explains that milk is more nutritious than soda because it contains calcium, but why does it think that water is more nutritious than soda? Soda is 98% water. If the AAP is really so concerned about the sugar in soda, why doesn't it say that diet sodas are ok? And doesn't it realize that fruit juices also have sugar in them? Excellent points. A "special report" from The Center For Consumer Freedom, "Soda Ban Lacks Scientific Fizz" (http://www.consumerfreedom.com/headl...ADLINE_ID=1953), also mentions some *benefits* of having pop machine in schools. The recommendation ends by saying that the vending machines should be moved outside the cafeteria, so that kids buy their drinks at times other than lunch. Yet another wacky and unfounded AAP recommendation ... Tsk...and from such an apolitical group... |
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Peds want soda ban
"JG" wrote
Straw man. I don't think it's anyone's, or any group's (private or public), right to tell individuals *who pose no threat to others* how to live their lives (let alone force them adhere to arbitrary dictates!)-- do you? Each "individual butterball" must live, or die, by his/her choices. The gubmnt (and food manufacturers/distributors, including schools) hasn't made anyone fat; it's not its responsibility to make anyone healthy, either. Maybe the butterballs are drinking the diet sodas, and the skinny kids are drinking the sugared sodas. Both will lose under the new policy of banning soda. There isn't even much nutritional difference between sugared soda and fruit juice. If calcium were really the concern, the school could hand out calcium pills. |
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Peds want soda ban
"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message
t... "JG" wrote Straw man. I don't think it's anyone's, or any group's (private or public), right to tell individuals *who pose no threat to others* how to live their lives... Maybe the butterballs are drinking the diet sodas, and the skinny kids are drinking the sugared sodas. Both will lose under the new policy of banning soda. The "science" behind studies proclaiming that soft drinks are "bad" should have even Utz shaking his head. See "Hop on Pop: How soda is being attacked in the media," http://www.consumerfreedom.com/artic...?ARTICLE_ID=76 (almost three years old!) for details. Another good article, "Soft Drinks, Hard Bias," (also almost three years old) can be found at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,12315,00.html. There isn't even much nutritional difference between sugared soda and fruit juice. If calcium were really the concern, the school could hand out calcium pills. |
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