My 3.4 yr old ds says NO to potty training

Bright kids don't **** in their pants.

Your child is retarded.

Three years old and you want to ship him off already. Why did you breed if
you're just going to farm the kid off somewhere?



"Mom2Max" wrote in message
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My son has known exactly what he needs to do since 18 months. The
healthy curiosity, has done both on the potty, gets his rewards. Now
it is justu a major powerplay. We don't scream and yell. We just let
him know that it's his choice...BUT there are certain things he won't
be able to do if he chooses diapers. I show him underpants (even CARS
pullups, etc.) He says, that's OK. I'll wear underpants and pullups
but I'm going to pee and poop in them...all with a big smile. It's
total and complete knowing rebellion. He is intrigued with summer
camp and he knows he can't go to summer camp wearing diapers...but
otherwise, forget it. This morning he smiled and said he peed and
pooped in his diaper. I didn't say a word and changed him. When he
asked where his pullups were (because the sun was up) I told him he's
decided he's not ready for pullups. When he's ready to use them he'll
let me know. And then I left it alone. I'm very frustrated and I
know this is a popular thread with this group. Any and all
suggestions welcomed. I need him to be potty trained by July 9
because I NEED him to go to summer camp and they won't take him if he
isn't. Plus he'll be 3 1/2 (very, very bright child..no developmental
delays...)

"Mom2Max" wrote in message
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My son has known exactly what he needs to do since 18 months. The
healthy curiosity, has done both on the potty, gets his rewards. Now
it is justu a major powerplay. We don't scream and yell. We just let
him know that it's his choice...BUT there are certain things he won't
be able to do if he chooses diapers. I show him underpants (even CARS
pullups, etc.) He says, that's OK. I'll wear underpants and pullups
but I'm going to pee and poop in them...all with a big smile. It's
total and complete knowing rebellion. He is intrigued with summer
camp and he knows he can't go to summer camp wearing diapers...but
otherwise, forget it. This morning he smiled and said he peed and
pooped in his diaper. I didn't say a word and changed him. When he
asked where his pullups were (because the sun was up) I told him he's
decided he's not ready for pullups. When he's ready to use them he'll
let me know. And then I left it alone. I'm very frustrated and I
know this is a popular thread with this group. Any and all
suggestions welcomed. I need him to be potty trained by July 9
because I NEED him to go to summer camp and they won't take him if he
isn't. Plus he'll be 3 1/2 (very, very bright child..no developmental
delays...)


Stop talking about it w/ him and stop buying pull ups. Have a nice big
stack of underpants w/i his reach and pretend like you don't care. If he
asks for help, help him. Other than that leave him alone. Even if that
means letting him stink all day. When it becomes a non-issue, he will
figure it out.
IMO pull ups cause huge problems, I really think they are worthless and
wouldn't be cauught dead putting them on my kids.
btw, both of mine were self toilet trained at less than 2 years old because
I never made it an issue.

"Grahame" wrote in message
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If you KNOW for sure its just rebellion then I would take drastic steps.
When he gets up the next morning, I would tell him, he has decided to be a
baby by wearing nappies, or peeing and pooing in his pants, so you will
have to treat him like a baby now.
So when he gets up, give him a bottle, and stick him back in bed.
If he gets up shut the door, keep telling him, kids who pee and poo in
their pants have to stay in bed ALL DAY like a baby, cannot play with toys
cannot watch tv cause they are too little.
Anything he wants to do as a 3 yr old he cannot do now cause he is a baby.
If he wants to do more he has to go to the toilet.
My nephew was 3 when he pulled this caper. Treating him as a baby lasted 1
morning. By lunch he agreed to use the toilet. But if it takes him longer
be prepared to do this for a few days at least.

All the best

Fiona

Umm... you're kidding right?
If not, I hope you have a savings account for all the psychotherapy he'll
need.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:24:54 GMT, Knit Chic wrote:

btw, both of mine were self toilet trained at less than 2 years old because
I never made it an issue.

I'm sure they toilet trained at less than 2 yo, but I'm not sure if it is
because you never made it an issue. I never made it an issue for DD and
she trained at 3 yo.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:31:33 GMT, toypup wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:24:54 GMT, Knit Chic wrote:

btw, both of mine were self toilet trained at less than 2 years old because
I never made it an issue.

I'm sure they toilet trained at less than 2 yo, but I'm not sure if it is
because you never made it an issue. I never made it an issue for DD and
she trained at 3 yo.

Mine have all seemed to hit the 3-1/2 mark and I've treated it as a
non-issue. DD2 is the only one we got a potty chair for as she's
getting too big for the largest diapers.

Nan

In article .com,
Mom2Max wrote:

My son has known exactly what he needs to do since 18 months. The
healthy curiosity, has done both on the potty, gets his rewards. Now
it is justu a major powerplay. We don't scream and yell. We just let
him know that it's his choice...BUT there are certain things he won't
be able to do if he chooses diapers. I show him underpants (even CARS
pullups, etc.) He says, that's OK. I'll wear underpants and pullups
but I'm going to pee and poop in them...all with a big smile. It's
total and complete knowing rebellion. He is intrigued with summer
camp and he knows he can't go to summer camp wearing diapers...but
otherwise, forget it. [...] Any and all
suggestions welcomed. I need him to be potty trained by July 9
because I NEED him to go to summer camp and they won't take him if he
isn't. Plus he'll be 3 1/2 (very, very bright child..no developmental
delays...)

My bright boy wasn't fully TTd until 4.5 or so. The problem wasn't with wees
but with poos. The reason was that he was a squatter, and tall, and sitting
on a low potty was uncomfortable. We bought a taller potty and started
bribing. Eventually, it worked.

So it might be "complete knowing rebellion" or it might be something else.

I agree with all the other things people have said -- forget pullups, ignore
unwanted behaviour, and find a more reasonable summer camp. And when you can,
let him run around bare-bottomed.

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"Parenthood is like the modern stone washing process for denim jeans. You may
start out crisp, neat and tough, but you end up pale, limp and wrinkled."
Kerry Cue

In article , LaTreen Washington says...

Bright kids don't **** in their pants.

Your child is retarded.

Three years old and you want to ship him off already. Why did you breed if
you're just going to farm the kid off somewhere?



Someone posting under the moniker "Latreen" should be an expert in toilets
alright ;-)

Grahame wrote:
If you KNOW for sure its just rebellion then I would take drastic steps.
When he gets up the next morning, I would tell him, he has decided to be a
baby by wearing nappies, or peeing and pooing in his pants, so you will have
to treat him like a baby now.
So when he gets up, give him a bottle, and stick him back in bed.
If he gets up shut the door, keep telling him, kids who pee and poo in their
pants have to stay in bed ALL DAY like a baby, cannot play with toys cannot
watch tv cause they are too little.
Anything he wants to do as a 3 yr old he cannot do now cause he is a baby.
If he wants to do more he has to go to the toilet.
My nephew was 3 when he pulled this caper. Treating him as a baby lasted 1
morning. By lunch he agreed to use the toilet. But if it takes him longer be
prepared to do this for a few days at least.

All the best

Fiona

That's a bit harsh. It reminds me of the nuns putting nappies on kids
who cried after they got slapped then sent them out to the playground at
break time where all the other kids crowded around and laughed at them,
this kind of humiliation is destructive and wounding on a very deep level.

"Boliath" wrote in message
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Grahame wrote:
If you KNOW for sure its just rebellion then I would take drastic steps.
When he gets up the next morning, I would tell him, he has decided to be
a baby by wearing nappies, or peeing and pooing in his pants, so you will
have to treat him like a baby now.
So when he gets up, give him a bottle, and stick him back in bed.
If he gets up shut the door, keep telling him, kids who pee and poo in
their pants have to stay in bed ALL DAY like a baby, cannot play with
toys cannot watch tv cause they are too little.
Anything he wants to do as a 3 yr old he cannot do now cause he is a
baby. If he wants to do more he has to go to the toilet.
My nephew was 3 when he pulled this caper. Treating him as a baby lasted
1 morning. By lunch he agreed to use the toilet. But if it takes him
longer be prepared to do this for a few days at least.

All the best

Fiona

That's a bit harsh. It reminds me of the nuns putting nappies on kids who
cried after they got slapped then sent them out to the playground at break
time where all the other kids crowded around and laughed at them, this
kind of humiliation is destructive and wounding on a very deep level.

wow, that was quite a game of leapster.

Knit Chic wrote:
"Boliath" wrote in message
...

Grahame wrote:

If you KNOW for sure its just rebellion then I would take drastic steps.
When he gets up the next morning, I would tell him, he has decided to be
a baby by wearing nappies, or peeing and pooing in his pants, so you will
have to treat him like a baby now.
So when he gets up, give him a bottle, and stick him back in bed.
If he gets up shut the door, keep telling him, kids who pee and poo in
their pants have to stay in bed ALL DAY like a baby, cannot play with
toys cannot watch tv cause they are too little.
Anything he wants to do as a 3 yr old he cannot do now cause he is a
baby. If he wants to do more he has to go to the toilet.
My nephew was 3 when he pulled this caper. Treating him as a baby lasted
1 morning. By lunch he agreed to use the toilet. But if it takes him
longer be prepared to do this for a few days at least.

All the best

Fiona

That's a bit harsh. It reminds me of the nuns putting nappies on kids who
cried after they got slapped then sent them out to the playground at break
time where all the other kids crowded around and laughed at them, this
kind of humiliation is destructive and wounding on a very deep level.


wow, that was quite a game of leapster.

You think? Didn't mean to do that, it makes sense to me, treating
someone like a baby to humiliate them into behaving. Maybe you had to be
there.