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GAZETTE: Government wrong to push human papillomavirus vaccine
On the internet, the true Snake oil Sellers (plus a few new ones)
pushing this unproven vaccine, have been fillilng blogs, Wiki, the Health Fraud list, and Usenet with their industry propaganda about this snake oil. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/article.cf...y=23&year=2008 To the editor: The hasty decision by our federal Health Minister to vaccinate young Canadian girls in Grades 6-9 against the human papillomavirus (HPV) is a monstrous mistake. First, the vaccine isn’t necessary. According to the Centre of Disease Control and Prevention, only a very small percentage of women infected with the virus have “high risk” strains that could lead to cervical cancer. Otherwise, HPV generally clears on its own like the common cold, or could leave you with a few genital warts. There is no dangerous epidemic of HPV and there is no epidemic of cervical cancer. Cervical cancer kills approximately 400 women in Canada each year as compared to breast cancer, which kills approximately 5,000 women. We already have a good method of early detection and therefore management, of cervical cancer, with almost 100 per cent survival rate when found early — namely the Pap test. The $300 million used for the Gardasil vaccination program could be better spent on ThinPrep cervical cancer screening, which is even more accurate than the Pap smear test and on increased sex education in schools, which has been proven in numerous studies to decrease risk-taking behaviour and incidence of sexually transmitted infections. Second, we don’t even know the vaccine is effective, let alone safe. Merck, the makers of Gardasil, still cannot give us answers to such questions as: How safe is this vaccine? What are the side effects? How many girls were used in clinical trials? And because cervical cancer develops over many years, was this vaccine even tested long enough to know that it works? Another alarming fact: since May 2007, there have been 2,000 adverse affects from this vaccine reported in the United States along with seven deaths, which are currently under investigation. Third, the medical support for this initiative is suspect. As a nurse who has been taught to think critically and use evidence-based practice, I started to research information about the Gardasil vaccine only to be alarmed on every front. I looked to experts at the Society of Obstetricians and Gynecologists of Canada for help to see why they are so enthusiastic about this vaccine and saw, to my surprise, that they were given a $1.5 million grant from Merck: did this money have an impact on their behaviour? This vaccine and public in-school vaccination program is screaming “scam.” With all the unanswered questions and adverse side effects, why are we supporting this campaign? I urge everyone to be critical thinkers and leaders. Do some research and support the initiatives you believe in, and speak out against the ones you don’t. Our healthcare system is in critical danger of being taken over and controlled by big pharmaceutical companies like Merck, that do research fueled by how to make money, not by how to make humans healthy. —Celina Carter Bachelor of Science in Nursing |
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GAZETTE: Government wrong to push human papillomavirus vaccine
Ilena Rose wrote:
On the internet, the true Snake oil Sellers (plus a few new ones) pushing this unproven vaccine, have been fillilng blogs, Wiki, the Health Fraud list, and Usenet with their industry propaganda about this snake oil. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/article.cf...y=23&year=2008 To the editor: The hasty decision by our federal Health Minister to vaccinate young Canadian girls in Grades 6-9 against the human papillomavirus (HPV) is a monstrous mistake. First, the vaccine isn’t necessary. According to the Centre of Disease Control and Prevention, only a very small percentage of women infected with the virus have “high risk” strains that could lead to cervical cancer. Where is the Centre of Disease Control and Prevention? Who are they? Please tell us how to identify who will get the high-risk strains. Otherwise, HPV generally clears on its own like the common cold, or could leave you with a few genital warts. There is no dangerous epidemic of HPV and there is no epidemic of cervical cancer. Yet, 400 women are killed each year, often in the primes of their lives. Others have to go through heart- and gut-wrenching treatment. Cervical cancer kills approximately 400 women in Canada each year as compared to breast cancer, which kills approximately 5,000 women. We already have a good method of early detection and therefore management, of cervical cancer, with almost 100 per cent survival rate when found early — namely the Pap test. That doesn't always work. Ask the families of the 400 women who die each year. The $300 million used for the Gardasil vaccination program could be better spent on ThinPrep cervical cancer screening, which is even more accurate than the Pap smear test and on increased sex education in schools, which has been proven in numerous studies to decrease risk-taking behaviour and incidence of sexually transmitted infections. Can you please show us the risk-benefit analysis that lead you to this conclusion? Second, we don’t even know the vaccine is effective, let alone safe. Merck, the makers of Gardasil, still cannot give us answers to such questions as: How safe is this vaccine? What are the side effects? How many girls were used in clinical trials? And because cervical cancer develops over many years, was this vaccine even tested long enough to know that it works? We know that it prevents the infection that leads to cancer. And the information is available at www.cdc.gov, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. Another alarming fact: since May 2007, there have been 2,000 adverse affects from this vaccine reported in the United States along with seven deaths, which are currently under investigation. That's the right word: "event." In none of these deaths, has the vaccine been shown to be at fault. Third, the medical support for this initiative is suspect. As a nurse who has been taught to think critically and use evidence-based practice, I started to research information about the Gardasil vaccine only to be alarmed on every front. I looked to experts at the Society of Obstetricians and Gynecologists of Canada for help to see why they are so enthusiastic about this vaccine and saw, to my surprise, that they were given a $1.5 million grant from Merck: did this money have an impact on their behaviour? This vaccine and public in-school vaccination program is screaming “scam.” With all the unanswered questions and adverse side effects, why are we supporting this campaign? Because it is expected to save the lives of hundreds of Canadians each year. I urge everyone to be critical thinkers and leaders. Do some research and support the initiatives you believe in, and speak out against the ones you don’t. Our healthcare system is in critical danger of being taken over and controlled by big pharmaceutical companies like Merck, that do research fueled by how to make money, not by how to make humans healthy. I did my research. I find that the vaccine will likely save hundreds of lives in Canada and even more in the US. I have also come to the conlusion that the anti-vaccine folks are trying to use fear and ignorance to turn people away from vaccines. Jeff —Celina Carter Bachelor of Science in Nursing |
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GAZETTE: Government wrong to push human papillomavirus vaccine
Snake oil Salesman, Jefffrey P Utz ...
http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...tm#Jeffrey-Utz There is no certainty about this new expensive drug you are pushing here ... "may" prevent cervical cancer is a big IF. "may" save lives even bigger. You are deaf, dumb and blind to the facts regarding this unproven drug .... and use your typical "ministry of truth' disinformation tactics. |
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GAZETTE: Government wrong to push human papillomavirus vaccine
"Jeff" wrote in message news:XfLlj.21713$9t4.594@trnddc08... Ilena Rose wrote: On the internet, the true Snake oil Sellers (plus a few new ones) pushing this unproven vaccine, have been fillilng blogs, Wiki, the Health Fraud list, and Usenet with their industry propaganda about this snake oil. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/article.cf...y=23&year=2008 To the editor: The hasty decision by our federal Health Minister to vaccinate young Canadian girls in Grades 6-9 against the human papillomavirus (HPV) is a monstrous mistake. First, the vaccine isn’t necessary. According to the Centre of Disease Control and Prevention, only a very small percentage of women infected with the virus have “high risk” strains that could lead to cervical cancer. Where is the Centre of Disease Control and Prevention? Who are they? Priceless! Do note how, Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz, M.D. [2007] "Robert Watson" Jeff Utz Jeff Utz, M.D. Jeffrey P. Utz, M.D. Hence "Putz" http://www.msu.edu/~utz/ Jeffrey Peter, M.D. Wyle E. Coyote Jeff Utz (Jan 2003) Jeff Jeff (2007) and again (2008) never criticizes his buddy Mark Probert's typos. Please tell us how to identify who will get the high-risk strains. lol. Ask your beloved CDC. Otherwise, HPV generally clears on its own like the common cold, or could leave you with a few genital warts. There is no dangerous epidemic of HPV and there is no epidemic of cervical cancer. Yet, 400 women are killed each year, often in the primes of their lives. Others have to go through heart- and gut-wrenching treatment. Yet, you don't seem to be concerned about the *needless deaths and mistakes* from convention medicine. Cervical cancer kills approximately 400 women in Canada each year as compared to breast cancer, which kills approximately 5,000 women. We already have a good method of early detection and therefore management, of cervical cancer, with almost 100 per cent survival rate when found early — namely the Pap test. That doesn't always work. Ask the families of the 400 women who die each year. You forgot the families who are killed each year from breast cancer. The $300 million used for the Gardasil vaccination program could be better spent on ThinPrep cervical cancer screening, which is even more accurate than the Pap smear test and on increased sex education in schools, which has been proven in numerous studies to decrease risk-taking behaviour and incidence of sexually transmitted infections. Can you please show us the risk-benefit analysis that lead you to this conclusion? Read, notdoc, read. http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/article.cf...y=23&year=2008 Second, we don’t even know the vaccine is effective, let alone safe. Merck, the makers of Gardasil, still cannot give us answers to such questions as: How safe is this vaccine? What are the side effects? How many girls were used in clinical trials? And because cervical cancer develops over many years, was this vaccine even tested long enough to know that it works? We know that it prevents the infection that leads to cancer. And the information is available at www.cdc.gov, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. Ahh, yes. Believe the CDC and govenment. http://www.aafp.org/online/en/home/p...25hpv4gbs.html http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/84804.php http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...ccine0517.html http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicia...liticians-2007 Another alarming fact: since May 2007, there have been 2,000 adverse affects from this vaccine reported in the United States along with seven deaths, which are currently under investigation. That's the right word: "event." Where? In none of these deaths, has the vaccine been shown to be at fault. Tell that to the families of those who have died. My. my I am so surprised you would tell a blatant lie. http://ahrp.blogspot.com/2007/05/gar...eaths-and.html Third, the medical support for this initiative is suspect. As a nurse who has been taught to think critically and use evidence-based practice, I started to research information about the Gardasil vaccine only to be alarmed on every front. I looked to experts at the Society of Obstetricians and Gynecologists of Canada for help to see why they are so enthusiastic about this vaccine and saw, to my surprise, that they were given a $1.5 million grant from Merck: did this money have an impact on their behaviour? This vaccine and public in-school vaccination program is screaming “scam.” With all the unanswered questions and adverse side effects, why are we supporting this campaign? Because it is expected to save the lives of hundreds of Canadians each year. I urge everyone to be critical thinkers and leaders. Do some research and support the initiatives you believe in, and speak out against the ones you don’t. Our healthcare system is in critical danger of being taken over and controlled by big pharmaceutical companies like Merck, that do research fueled by how to make money, not by how to make humans healthy. I did my research. I find that the vaccine will likely save hundreds of lives in Canada and even more in the US. I have also come to the conlusion that the anti-vaccine folks are trying to use fear and ignorance to turn people away from vaccines. Jeff You did your research. You could not tell the deaths were caused by the vaccination... When one dies died of a blood clot three hours after getting the Gardasil vaccine. . —Celina Carter Bachelor of Science in Nursing |
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GAZETTE: Government wrong to push human papillomavirus vaccine
Jan Drew wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message news:XfLlj.21713$9t4.594@trnddc08... Ilena Rose wrote: On the internet, the true Snake oil Sellers (plus a few new ones) pushing this unproven vaccine, have been fillilng blogs, Wiki, the Health Fraud list, and Usenet with their industry propaganda about this snake oil. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/article.cf...y=23&year=2008 To the editor: The hasty decision by our federal Health Minister to vaccinate young Canadian girls in Grades 6-9 against the human papillomavirus (HPV) is a monstrous mistake. First, the vaccine isn’t necessary. According to the Centre of Disease Control and Prevention, only a very small percentage of women infected with the virus have “high risk” strains that could lead to cervical cancer. Where is the Centre of Disease Control and Prevention? Who are they? Priceless! Do note how, Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz, M.D. [2007] "Robert Watson" Jeff Utz Jeff Utz, M.D. Jeffrey P. Utz, M.D. Hence "Putz" http://www.msu.edu/~utz/ Jeffrey Peter, M.D. Wyle E. Coyote Jeff Utz (Jan 2003) Jeff Jeff (2007) and again (2008) never criticizes his buddy Mark Probert's typos. I didn't criticize anyone's typo. Ask what agency that is. Please tell us how to identify who will get the high-risk strains. lol. Ask your beloved CDC. The point is that there is no way to tell which girls will later get the high-risk infection and which ones won't. Otherwise, HPV generally clears on its own like the common cold, or could leave you with a few genital warts. There is no dangerous epidemic of HPV and there is no epidemic of cervical cancer. Yet, 400 women are killed each year, often in the primes of their lives. Others have to go through heart- and gut-wrenching treatment. Yet, you don't seem to be concerned about the *needless deaths and mistakes* from convention medicine. That's not the subject of this thread. However, I am very concerned about these, particularly, with proper software and procedures, many are easy to prevent. Cervical cancer kills approximately 400 women in Canada each year as compared to breast cancer, which kills approximately 5,000 women. We already have a good method of early detection and therefore management, of cervical cancer, with almost 100 per cent survival rate when found early — namely the Pap test. That doesn't always work. Ask the families of the 400 women who die each year. You forgot the families who are killed each year from breast cancer. That's not the subject of this thread. The $300 million used for the Gardasil vaccination program could be better spent on ThinPrep cervical cancer screening, which is even more accurate than the Pap smear test and on increased sex education in schools, which has been proven in numerous studies to decrease risk-taking behaviour and incidence of sexually transmitted infections. Can you please show us the risk-benefit analysis that lead you to this conclusion? Read, notdoc, read. http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/article.cf...y=23&year=2008 I meant a real analysis by someone who knows what he is doing. Second, we don’t even know the vaccine is effective, let alone safe. Merck, the makers of Gardasil, still cannot give us answers to such questions as: How safe is this vaccine? What are the side effects? How many girls were used in clinical trials? And because cervical cancer develops over many years, was this vaccine even tested long enough to know that it works? We know that it prevents the infection that leads to cancer. And the information is available at www.cdc.gov, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. Ahh, yes. Believe the CDC and govenment. http://www.aafp.org/online/en/home/p...25hpv4gbs.html That was over 6 months ago. What was the outcome of the investigation? http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/84804.php So what? Which of those deaths have been shown to be caused by the vaccine? http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...ccine0517.html Old news. http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicia...liticians-2007 Another alarming fact: since May 2007, there have been 2,000 adverse affects from this vaccine reported in the United States along with seven deaths, which are currently under investigation. That's the right word: "event." Where? In none of these deaths, has the vaccine been shown to be at fault. Tell that to the families of those who have died. My. my I am so surprised you would tell a blatant lie. http://ahrp.blogspot.com/2007/05/gar...eaths-and.html Third, the medical support for this initiative is suspect. As a nurse who has been taught to think critically and use evidence-based practice, I started to research information about the Gardasil vaccine only to be alarmed on every front. I looked to experts at the Society of Obstetricians and Gynecologists of Canada for help to see why they are so enthusiastic about this vaccine and saw, to my surprise, that they were given a $1.5 million grant from Merck: did this money have an impact on their behaviour? This vaccine and public in-school vaccination program is screaming “scam.” With all the unanswered questions and adverse side effects, why are we supporting this campaign? Because it is expected to save the lives of hundreds of Canadians each year. I urge everyone to be critical thinkers and leaders. Do some research and support the initiatives you believe in, and speak out against the ones you don’t. Our healthcare system is in critical danger of being taken over and controlled by big pharmaceutical companies like Merck, that do research fueled by how to make money, not by how to make humans healthy. I did my research. I find that the vaccine will likely save hundreds of lives in Canada and even more in the US. I have also come to the conlusion that the anti-vaccine folks are trying to use fear and ignorance to turn people away from vaccines. Jeff You did your research. You could not tell the deaths were caused by the vaccination... When one dies died of a blood clot three hours after getting the Gardasil vaccine. . See, the patient died of a blood clot, not a vaccine. You have yet to prove that the vaccine was anything other than coincidence. Jeff —Celina Carter Bachelor of Science in Nursing |
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