Two year old Baby dies 3 days after MMR jab .....

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VAERS ID 297178 Vaccination Date: 2007-11-07
Age 2.0 Onset Date: 2007-11-10 Days later: 3
Sex F Submitted: 2007-11-16
State TX Entered: 2007-11-19

Life Threatening Illness? No
Died? Yes (date died: 2007-11-12)
Disability? No
Recovered? No
ER or Doctor Visit? No
Hospitalized? No
Current Illness: NONE
Diagnostic Lab Data: Electrolytes with mild dehydrate. Histology shows
acute gastroenteritis and broncho-pneumonia
Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications: NONE
Preexisting Conditions: PRE-MATURE BIRTH....NO COMPLICATIONS
Vaccination

Manufacturer

Lot

Dose

Route

Site
DTAP SANOFI PASTEUR U2156AA 3 IM LL
HIBV SANOFI PASTEUR UF205AA 3 IM LL
IPV SANOFI PASTEUR Z0873 3 IM RL
MMR MERCK & CO. INC. 0706F 0 IM RL
PNC WYETH PHARMACEUTICALS, INC B08702H 3 IM RL
VARCEL MERCK & CO. INC. 06084 0 IM RL
Administered by: UNK Purchased by: UNK
Symptoms: Blood culture negative Bronchopneumonia Bronchopneumonia
Death Electrolyte imbalance Gastroenteritis Histology Pyrexia
Child started with high fever, 48 C, post vaccination and died on
11/12/2007

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VAERS ID 297178 Vaccination Date: 2007-11-07
Age 2.0 Onset Date: 2007-11-10 Days later: 3
Sex F Submitted: 2007-11-16
State TX Entered: 2007-11-19

Life Threatening Illness? No
Died? Yes (date died: 2007-11-12)
Disability? No
Recovered? No
ER or Doctor Visit? No
Hospitalized? No
Current Illness: NONE
Diagnostic Lab Data: Electrolytes with mild dehydrate. Histology shows
acute gastroenteritis and broncho-pneumonia

both diagnoses are known to be fatal in young children...regardless to what
"shots"

not to mention the prematurity


Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications: NONE
Preexisting Conditions: PRE-MATURE BIRTH....NO COMPLICATIONS
Vaccination

Manufacturer

Lot

Dose

Route

Site
DTAP SANOFI PASTEUR U2156AA 3 IM LL
HIBV SANOFI PASTEUR UF205AA 3 IM LL
IPV SANOFI PASTEUR Z0873 3 IM RL
MMR MERCK & CO. INC. 0706F 0 IM RL
PNC WYETH PHARMACEUTICALS, INC B08702H 3 IM RL
VARCEL MERCK & CO. INC. 06084 0 IM RL
Administered by: UNK Purchased by: UNK
Symptoms: Blood culture negative Bronchopneumonia Bronchopneumonia
Death Electrolyte imbalance Gastroenteritis Histology Pyrexia
Child started with high fever, 48 C, post vaccination and died on
11/12/2007

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"Ilena Rose" wrote in message

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VAERS ID 297178 *Vaccination Date: 2007-11-07
Age 2.0 *Onset Date: 2007-11-10 * Days later: 3
Sex F *Submitted: 2007-11-16
State TX *Entered: 2007-11-19

Life Threatening Illness? No
Died? Yes (date died: 2007-11-12)
Disability? No
Recovered? No
ER or Doctor Visit? No
Hospitalized? No
Current Illness: NONE
Diagnostic Lab Data: Electrolytes with mild dehydrate. Histology shows
acute gastroenteritis and broncho-pneumonia

both diagnoses are known to be fatal in young children...regardless to what
"shots"

not to mention the prematurity



Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications: NONE
Preexisting Conditions: PRE-MATURE BIRTH....NO COMPLICATIONS
Vaccination

Manufacturer

Lot

Dose

Route

Site
DTAP SANOFI PASTEUR U2156AA 3 IM LL
HIBV SANOFI PASTEUR UF205AA 3 IM LL
IPV SANOFI PASTEUR Z0873 3 IM RL
MMR MERCK & CO. INC. 0706F 0 IM RL
PNC WYETH PHARMACEUTICALS, INC B08702H 3 IM RL
VARCEL MERCK & CO. INC. 06084 0 IM RL
Administered by: UNK * * Purchased by: UNK
Symptoms: Blood culture negative Bronchopneumonia Bronchopneumonia
Death Electrolyte imbalance Gastroenteritis Histology Pyrexia
Child started with high fever, 48 C, post vaccination and died on
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This kind of logic is typical of big pharma thinking.

Say you have a pre-existing heart condition. I walk up and shoot
you. You die 3 days later. Prove to me that my bullet killed you and
not the pre-existing heart condition.

Secondly, considering the chicken and the egg, which comes first, the
disease or the vaccine which can cause and/or aggrevagte your disease
until you are dead?

When will we learn and admit that vaccines are not safe nor effective?
When will we learn that you should not inject poisons into sick
children?

DrCee
You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.

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This kind of logic is typical of big pharma thinking.

Say you have a pre-existing heart condition. *I walk up and shoot
you. *You die 3 days later. *Prove to me that my bullet killed you and
not the pre-existing heart condition.

That's going to be a tough assignment if you're into magic
and don't believe that biology operates by specific processes.

On the other hand, it's not too tough if the bullet nicked
the bullet nicked the earlobe but the proximate cause of
death was myocardial inschemia consequent to arterial plaque
that had been building up for years.

It's also easy if the bullet penetrated the skull and pureed
the brain. Either way there's actual *mechanism* involved.

Of course, the more religiously inclined would simply blame
evil spirits. The more avant-garde religious might name
those evil spirits things like "toxins" but it's still the
same old-time religion.

Secondly, considering the chicken and the egg, which comes first, the
disease or the vaccine which can cause and/or aggrevagte your disease
until you are dead?

Ummm, gee -- if the vaccine *aggravates* the pre-existing condition
then a quick consideration of the usual chronology suggests that
the pre-existing condition was ... pre-existing. Wow. It's a good
thing that you have us to work out problems like this that are
too tough for you to do on your own.

Of course, if the pre-existing condition (e.g. mitochondrial
disorder) were a congenital one that can be triggered by any
fever, avoiding vaccines wouldn't really make much long-term
difference.

When will we learn and admit that vaccines are not safe nor effective?

Maybe when you have a better argument than, "Doctors make too much
money and I hate them for it?"

When will we learn that you should not inject poisons into sick
children?

When you can show that it does more harm than *not*.
(NB: Baby Poling's father doesn't seem to agree with you.
That's a bit of a clue, there.)

I won't hold my breath.

--
| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
| The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" |
+---------- D. C. Sessions ----------+

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On Mar 14, 8:38 pm, wrote:
"Ilena Rose" wrote in message

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http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/fin...HIGHAGE=&VAX=M...

VAERS ID 297178 Vaccination Date: 2007-11-07
Age 2.0 Onset Date: 2007-11-10 Days later: 3
Sex F Submitted: 2007-11-16
State TX Entered: 2007-11-19

Life Threatening Illness? No
Died? Yes (date died: 2007-11-12)
Disability? No
Recovered? No
ER or Doctor Visit? No
Hospitalized? No
Current Illness: NONE
Diagnostic Lab Data: Electrolytes with mild dehydrate. Histology shows
acute gastroenteritis and broncho-pneumonia

both diagnoses are known to be fatal in young children...regardless to
what
"shots"

not to mention the prematurity



Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications: NONE
Preexisting Conditions: PRE-MATURE BIRTH....NO COMPLICATIONS
Vaccination

Manufacturer

Lot

Dose

Route

Site
DTAP SANOFI PASTEUR U2156AA 3 IM LL
HIBV SANOFI PASTEUR UF205AA 3 IM LL
IPV SANOFI PASTEUR Z0873 3 IM RL
MMR MERCK & CO. INC. 0706F 0 IM RL
PNC WYETH PHARMACEUTICALS, INC B08702H 3 IM RL
VARCEL MERCK & CO. INC. 06084 0 IM RL
Administered by: UNK Purchased by: UNK
Symptoms: Blood culture negative Bronchopneumonia Bronchopneumonia
Death Electrolyte imbalance Gastroenteritis Histology Pyrexia
Child started with high fever, 48 C, post vaccination and died on
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This kind of logic is typical of big pharma thinking.

Say you have a pre-existing heart condition. I walk up and shoot
you. You die 3 days later. Prove to me that my bullet killed you and
not the pre-existing heart condition.


If you shot me in my toe, I had it bandaged up at my local ER, and by the
next day I was back at work doing fine... then a few days later dropped dead
.... I'd say it wsa probably from that pre-existing heart condition.

What we are talking about here is when we can and can't just assume that a
temporal relationship is also a causative one.

About 7,000 people will die today in the USA. Many of them will have
sniffed cocaine 3 days ago. Did that cause their demise? Many will have
had food poisoning within the last week. Surely that must have killed them.
Many ate steak dinners last night. Steak now kills people too!

The point is this - pick your "event" - whether it be doing drugs, eating
certain foods, engaging in racy activities, or ... or getting a vaccination.
Statistically deaths will occur - based on random chance - shortly after any
such event. The event juxtaposed to a death is not proof of causation.