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  #61  
Old April 25th 08, 05:03 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
David Wright
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Default Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon

In article ,
news wrote:

"David Wright" wrote in message
...
In article
,
PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to
be the sole trigger.


Accused is not the same as implicated.

What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely
unncessary and without scientific basis.


So you keep claiming. Since you're immune to evidence, so you'll go
on claiming.

In your spare time, please explain whatever happened to measles in the
US. Without resorting to self-invented concepts like "subclinical
measles," I mean.


David, how bout YOU take as many vacs as you please and leave the other
people alone?


You're free to not read my posts. I invite you to start immediately
if they bother you so much.

Don't start with that BS about it only works if everyone takes
it. Such a plan worked out well for Jim Jones now didn't it?


You must have spent your time away from m.h.a taking a course in how
not to make any sense. You apparently finished at the top of your
class.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers."
-- John Dolan



  #62  
Old April 25th 08, 01:41 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
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Don't start with that BS about it only works if everyone takes
it. Such a plan worked out well for Jim Jones now didn't it?


You must have spent your time away from m.h.a taking a course in how
not to make any sense. You apparently finished at the top of your
class.



David, you should not take more than one stupid pill a day.


  #63  
Old April 26th 08, 01:13 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
David Wright
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Default Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon

In article ,
news wrote:

Don't start with that BS about it only works if everyone takes
it. Such a plan worked out well for Jim Jones now didn't it?


You must have spent your time away from m.h.a taking a course in how
not to make any sense. You apparently finished at the top of your
class.

David, you should not take more than one stupid pill a day.


I'll follow your advice, since I see you're speaking from direct
personal experience (when you wrote your previous posting).

The Jonestown massacre has nothing to do with vaccination, and your
silly attempt to generate the analogy doesn't change that.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers."
-- John Dolan



  #64  
Old April 26th 08, 01:54 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
news[_7_]
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Default Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon


"David Wright" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
news wrote:

Don't start with that BS about it only works if everyone takes
it. Such a plan worked out well for Jim Jones now didn't it?

You must have spent your time away from m.h.a taking a course in how
not to make any sense. You apparently finished at the top of your
class.

David, you should not take more than one stupid pill a day.


I'll follow your advice, since I see you're speaking from direct
personal experience (when you wrote your previous posting).

The Jonestown massacre has nothing to do with vaccination, and your
silly attempt to generate the analogy doesn't change that.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers."
-- John Dolan


So how bout this. You take all the vaccines that my family has not taken.
That way you can be really safe!


  #65  
Old April 26th 08, 04:18 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
Kevysmom[_2_]
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Default Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon

Hi Mryl,

Another GREAT post of yours, thanks!

(1) WMD: Weapons of Mass Deception
(2) Uncovered: The War on Iraq
(3) The Whole Truth About the Iraq War
(4) The Iraq War: The War Profitteers


Im not sure if I watched those...But on PBS they have a documentary
still up on its web sire(No wonder the Bush Administration wants to
cut funds!)


These documentaries should be seen by everyone.. I hope that when we
get a new president they will investigate all of this, But Im sure
every bit of evidence will be shredded, and all new computers in place
before Bush leaves office.

In "The Dark Side," FRONTLINE tells the story of the vice president's
role as the chief architect of the war on terror, and his battle with
Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet for control of the "dark
side." Drawing on more than 40 interviews and thousands of documents,
the film provides a step-by-step examination of what happened inside
the councils of war.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/view/







On Apr 24, 10:39 am, Myrl wrote:
On Apr 24, 7:11 am, Kevysmom wrote:

Myrl,


I think this is your best post, Ever!


Obama doesnt plan on just leaving Iraqis to deal with the situation
that we caused. He is planning on leaving troops to help keep peace in
the region.


Hillary has always been for the Iraqi war, she changed her stance on
the war when she decided to run for the nomination. I also worry about
her stance regarding Iran.


I actually like McCain's wife. I think McCain is a real war hero and
has some good qualities in him, that I admire. But he would be another
puppet for the GOP. And thats the last thing our country needs.


There is an interesting documentary on the ramp up to the Iraq War.
It goes into depth about the politics and the business interests which
caused this administration to display so much exhuberance and glee at
the possibility of invading Iraq. And to find such a welcome friend in
Iraqi ex-patriout, Chalabi, who was whispering sweet nothings into
administration ears.

One of the men involved in writing the intelligence report ultimately
presented to Congress to extract their approval for the invasion was
continually met with interference from the Administration (mainly in
Cheney's realm), to black out or rewrite entire segments of the report
to provide a more agressive reasoning for our going to war. Afterall,
they were writing a marketing piece to sell this war to congress,
rather than providing real facts!

Once completed, it was enormous with many hundreds of pages. The
report was put on a conference room table in a Congressional meeting
room, shortly before Congress was to break for a long Thanksgiving
holiday.

So the question remains - How many Congressional members actually sat
at that table and read that report with any considered thought, or
depth???

In order for Obama to "keep the peace" in Iraq, we will first need to
first stabilize the country. Stabilizing the country will not allow
Obama to do what he has said - which is to immediately bring the
military home! What we may wish that he be able to do, morally isn't
an option! And that is not his fault!

I watch many documentaries. These were some of the more interesting
ones regarding the Iraq War. I'm certain there were others, but their
titles escape me right now.

If you belong to Netflix (like I do), you can obtain them that way.
But, I suspect Blockbuster may have some of them. Several were
produced by the History Channel, PBS, etc.

(1) WMD: Weapons of Mass Deception
(2) Uncovered: The War on Iraq
(3) The Whole Truth About the Iraq War
(4) The Iraq War: The War Profitteers





  #66  
Old April 26th 08, 04:46 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
Myrl
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Default Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon

On Apr 25, 8:18*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
Hi Mryl,

Another GREAT post of yours, thanks!

(1) WMD: Weapons of Mass Deception
(2) Uncovered: The War on Iraq
(3) The Whole Truth About the Iraq War
(4) The Iraq War: The War Profitteers


Im not sure if I watched those...But on PBS they have a documentary
still up on its web sire(No wonder the Bush Administration wants to
cut funds!)

These documentaries should be seen by everyone.. I hope that when we
get a new president they will investigate all of this, But Im sure
every bit of evidence will be shredded, and all new computers in place
before Bush leaves office.

In "The Dark Side," FRONTLINE tells the story of the vice president's
role as the chief architect of the war on terror, and his battle with
Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet for control of the "dark
side." Drawing on more than 40 interviews and thousands of documents,
the film provides a step-by-step examination of what happened inside
the councils of war.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/view/

On Apr 24, 10:39 am, Myrl wrote:



On Apr 24, 7:11 am, Kevysmom wrote:


Myrl,


I think this is your best post, Ever!


Obama doesnt plan on just leaving Iraqis to deal with the situation
that we caused. He is planning on leaving troops to help keep peace in
the region.


Hillary has always been for the Iraqi war, she changed her stance on
the war when she decided to run for the nomination. I also worry about
her stance regarding Iran.


I actually like McCain's wife. *I think McCain is a real war hero and
has some good qualities in him, that I admire. But he would be another
puppet for the GOP. And thats the last thing our country needs.


There is an interesting documentary on the ramp up to the Iraq War.
It goes into depth about the politics and the business interests which
caused this administration to display so much exhuberance and glee at
the possibility of invading Iraq. And to find such a welcome friend in
Iraqi ex-patriout, Chalabi, who was whispering sweet nothings into
administration ears.


One of the men involved in writing the intelligence report ultimately
presented to Congress to extract their approval for the invasion was
continually met with interference from the Administration (mainly in
Cheney's realm), to black out or rewrite entire segments of the report
to provide a more agressive reasoning for our going to war. *Afterall,
they were writing a marketing piece to sell this war to congress,
rather than providing real facts!


Once completed, it was enormous with many hundreds of pages. *The
report was put on a conference room table in a Congressional meeting
room, shortly before Congress was to break for a long Thanksgiving
holiday.


So the question remains - How many Congressional members actually sat
at that table and read that report with any considered thought, or
depth???


In order for Obama to "keep the peace" in Iraq, we will first need to
first stabilize the country. *Stabilizing the country will not allow
Obama to do what he has said - which is to immediately bring the
military home! *What we may wish that he be able to do, morally isn't
an option! *And that is not his fault!


I watch many documentaries. *These were some of the more interesting
ones regarding the Iraq War. *I'm certain there were others, but their
titles escape me right now.


If you belong to Netflix (like I do), you can obtain them that way.
But, I suspect Blockbuster may have some of them. *Several were
produced by the History Channel, PBS, etc.


(1) WMD: Weapons of Mass Deception
(2) Uncovered: The War on Iraq
(3) The Whole Truth About the Iraq War
(4) The Iraq War: The War Profitteers- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -




Yes, I saw that one too. Tenet was skeptical, but was heavily
presured by the Vice President's Office, and staff. At the end of the
day, Tenet's "slam dunk" comment, helped cock the trigger on Iraq.

  #67  
Old April 26th 08, 04:49 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
Kevysmom[_2_]
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Default Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon

I just opened a link that a person on another group I belong to
posted.


This is NOT good. This makes me so upset. Havent we done enough damage
in the ME?


Joint Chiefs Chairman Says U.S. Preparing Military Options Against
Iran

25/04/08 "Washington Post" -- - The nation's top military officer said
today that the Pentagon is planning for "potential military courses of
action" against Iran, criticizing what he called the Tehran
government's "increasingly lethal and malign influence" in Iraq.

Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said a
conflict with Iran would be "extremely stressing" but not impossible
for U.S. forces, pointing specifically to reserve capabilities in the
Navy and Air Force.





On Apr 25, 11:46 pm, Myrl wrote:
On Apr 25, 8:18 pm, Kevysmom wrote:



Hi Mryl,


Another GREAT post of yours, thanks!


(1) WMD: Weapons of Mass Deception
(2) Uncovered: The War on Iraq
(3) The Whole Truth About the Iraq War
(4) The Iraq War: The War Profitteers


Im not sure if I watched those...But on PBS they have a documentary
still up on its web sire(No wonder the Bush Administration wants to
cut funds!)


These documentaries should be seen by everyone.. I hope that when we
get a new president they will investigate all of this, But Im sure
every bit of evidence will be shredded, and all new computers in place
before Bush leaves office.


In "The Dark Side," FRONTLINE tells the story of the vice president's
role as the chief architect of the war on terror, and his battle with
Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet for control of the "dark
side." Drawing on more than 40 interviews and thousands of documents,
the film provides a step-by-step examination of what happened inside
the councils of war.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/view/


On Apr 24, 10:39 am, Myrl wrote:


On Apr 24, 7:11 am, Kevysmom wrote:


Myrl,


I think this is your best post, Ever!


Obama doesnt plan on just leaving Iraqis to deal with the situation
that we caused. He is planning on leaving troops to help keep peace in
the region.


Hillary has always been for the Iraqi war, she changed her stance on
the war when she decided to run for the nomination. I also worry about
her stance regarding Iran.


I actually like McCain's wife. I think McCain is a real war hero and
has some good qualities in him, that I admire. But he would be another
puppet for the GOP. And thats the last thing our country needs.


There is an interesting documentary on the ramp up to the Iraq War.
It goes into depth about the politics and the business interests which
caused this administration to display so much exhuberance and glee at
the possibility of invading Iraq. And to find such a welcome friend in
Iraqi ex-patriout, Chalabi, who was whispering sweet nothings into
administration ears.


One of the men involved in writing the intelligence report ultimately
presented to Congress to extract their approval for the invasion was
continually met with interference from the Administration (mainly in
Cheney's realm), to black out or rewrite entire segments of the report
to provide a more agressive reasoning for our going to war. Afterall,
they were writing a marketing piece to sell this war to congress,
rather than providing real facts!


Once completed, it was enormous with many hundreds of pages. The
report was put on a conference room table in a Congressional meeting
room, shortly before Congress was to break for a long Thanksgiving
holiday.


So the question remains - How many Congressional members actually sat
at that table and read that report with any considered thought, or
depth???


In order for Obama to "keep the peace" in Iraq, we will first need to
first stabilize the country. Stabilizing the country will not allow
Obama to do what he has said - which is to immediately bring the
military home! What we may wish that he be able to do, morally isn't
an option! And that is not his fault!


I watch many documentaries. These were some of the more interesting
ones regarding the Iraq War. I'm certain there were others, but their
titles escape me right now.


If you belong to Netflix (like I do), you can obtain them that way.
But, I suspect Blockbuster may have some of them. Several were
produced by the History Channel, PBS, etc.


(1) WMD: Weapons of Mass Deception
(2) Uncovered: The War on Iraq
(3) The Whole Truth About the Iraq War
(4) The Iraq War: The War Profitteers- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yes, I saw that one too. Tenet was skeptical, but was heavily
presured by the Vice President's Office, and staff. At the end of the
day, Tenet's "slam dunk" comment, helped cock the trigger on Iraq.


  #68  
Old April 26th 08, 03:20 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
Mark Probert
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On Apr 25, 8:41*am, "news" wrote:
Don't start with that BS about it only works if everyone takes
it. Such a plan worked out well for Jim Jones now didn't it?


You must have spent your time away from m.h.a taking a course in how
not to make any sense. *You apparently finished at the top of your
class.


David, you should not take more than one stupid pill a day.


Speaking from personal experience, I see.

  #69  
Old April 26th 08, 03:22 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
Mark Probert
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Default Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon

On Apr 25, 11:49*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
I just opened a link that a person on another group I belong to
posted.

This is NOT good. This makes me so upset. Havent we done enough damage
in the ME?

Joint Chiefs Chairman Says U.S. Preparing Military Options Against
Iran

25/04/08 "Washington Post" -- - The nation's top military officer said
today that the Pentagon is planning for "potential military courses of
action" against Iran, criticizing what he called the Tehran
government's "increasingly lethal and malign influence" in Iraq.

Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said a
conflict with Iran would be "extremely stressing" but not impossible
for U.S. forces, pointing specifically to reserve capabilities in the
Navy and Air Force.


Dingbat, listen, military preparedness is for those people who can
think. You are obviously not one of them. However, being the ever
helpful person I am, I wil lpoint out that the military prepares
multiple scenarios all the time, and this is merely routine. It is a
real bitch if you have to wait for the last minute.

  #70  
Old April 26th 08, 04:19 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
Jeff
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Default Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon

Mark Probert wrote:
On Apr 25, 11:49 pm, Kevysmom wrote:
I just opened a link that a person on another group I belong to
posted.

This is NOT good. This makes me so upset. Havent we done enough damage
in the ME?

Joint Chiefs Chairman Says U.S. Preparing Military Options Against
Iran

25/04/08 "Washington Post" -- - The nation's top military officer said
today that the Pentagon is planning for "potential military courses of
action" against Iran, criticizing what he called the Tehran
government's "increasingly lethal and malign influence" in Iraq.

Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said a
conflict with Iran would be "extremely stressing" but not impossible
for U.S. forces, pointing specifically to reserve capabilities in the
Navy and Air Force.


Dingbat, listen, military preparedness is for those people who can
think.


Mark, while I disagree with Kevy's mom about vaccines, and I believe she
is acting with emotions and not logic or facts when it comes to
vaccines, your dismissal of her comments on another matter is also
without basis. At least she was able to quote someone who should know
what he is talking about.

And even if you were correct, that is not reason to attack Kevy's mom.

Jeff

You are obviously not one of them. However, being the ever
helpful person I am, I wil lpoint out that the military prepares
multiple scenarios all the time, and this is merely routine. It is a
real bitch if you have to wait for the last minute.

 




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