FL DCF big fined $80K and faces more for ignoring what Judges order

Get it before it's removed! Lucy D. Hadi BIO!
www.dcf.state.fl.us/admin/docs/hadibio.pdf

Resignation letter amendment
http://www.miami.com/multimedia/miam...esignation.pdf


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...a-news-broward

DCF chief retires one day after she is fined

Lucy Hadi kept mentally ill in jail

By Bill Hirschman And Mark Hollis
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Posted December 2 2006


Lucy Hadi, the embattled head of Florida's chief social services
agency, announced Friday that she was retiring -- one day after a judge
fined her $80,000 for not transferring mentally ill people out of jails
and into treatment hospitals.

Her departure as secretary of the Department of Children & Families
takes effect at the end of January so that she can help in the
transition to a successor.

Hadi, 60, told staffers her retirement had nothing to do with
contempt-of-court proceedings pending in five counties including
Broward and Miami-Dade, a spokesman said.

She had resigned Nov. 7 as a formality to let Gov.-elect Charlie Crist
name his own department head. But she wrote Gov. Jeb Bush Friday that
she wanted to amend her resignation to "retire from state service."

Hadi had not been asked to leave either by Bush or Crist, said Al
Zimmerman, her spokesman. Bush aides agreed. "There's no connection,"
said spokesman Anthony Deluise. "None."

Zimmerman said, "She had thought about retiring [before] and thought
this was a good time to do it."

Her decision comes as the agency is accused of leaving in jail more
than 300 felony suspects found incompetent to stand trial or not guilty
by reason of insanity.

Agency officials say they do not have enough space in its mental
hospitals to comply with the growing number of judges' orders to
confine such defendants in locked down treatment centers.

On Thursday, Pinellas County Circuit Judge Crockett Farnell fined Hadi
after threatening to put her in jail if DCF did not explain why it was
ignoring court orders.

In Broward, Circuit Judge Martin Bidwell is expected to rule on a
similar case next week. A similar ruling in Miami-Dade is on appeal.

When Hadi took the job in December 2004, she became the fourth
secretary in six years to oversee one of the most criticized agencies
in the state.

DCF had been reorganized twice by legislators because of mismanagement
dating back a decade. The agency lost track of hundreds of children in
its care and Jerry Regier, Hadi's predecessor, was accused of influence
peddling and favoritism in contracts.

At the time of her appointment, Hadi had already spent 24 years as an
administrator in DCF's predecessor agency. She once resigned her agency
job following a 1993 grand jury investigation into a botched
multimillion-dollar computer contract.

As secretary, Hadi drove the agency to be more accountable, said DCF
officials like Jack Moss, the Broward-based administrator who oversees
several South Florida counties. Now "everyone in the department from
front-line staff to the senior management is responsible for
performance measures that they have some control over," Moss said.

Some longtime children's advocates praised Hadi and said her decision
came as a surprise. Several sources said Hadi had been balancing her
high-pressure state job with caring for an ailing husband.

"I am very disappointed," said state Sen. Nan Rich, a Weston Democrat
who has headed legislative panels on social services. "I had really
hoped that she would continue on in the Crist administration. Lucy is
one of the most competent, knowledgeable people in regards to the
issues facing children and families."

Rich credited Hadi's leadership for large funding increases and other
changes that have "turned around what was a pretty dysfunctional
bureaucracy." She "stabilized a system that has caused so much
heartache over the years," Rich said.

At the same time, critics such as Broward Public Defender Howard
Finkelstein say the agency remains troubled, covering up problems with
statistics and underfunded to perform tasks it was created for.




http://www.northcountrygazette.org/a...sToRecuse.html

Originally Posted - December 4, 2006

Florida DCF Moves To Remove Judge From Inmate Case

TAMPA---A spokesman for the Florida Department of Children and Families
says that attorneys for the social services agency have filed a motion
for the recusal of Sixth Circuit Court Judge Crockett Farnell from a
case involving DCF's failure to timely transfer mentally ill inmates to
secure hospital facilities.

By law, once an inmate has been declared mentally incompetent to stand
trial, they must be transferred to a secure hospital facility within 15
days. There are currently 300 inmates statewide who have been held in
county jails longer than the requisite 15 days due to a shortage of
beds in state hospitals.

According to DCF spokesman Al Zimmerman, the motion seeks Farnell's
removal "on the basis that we do not believe the judge can be objective
on either case".

The other case to which he's referring is the contempt case of DCF
secretary Lucy Hadi. Late last month Farnell charged Hadi with seven
counts of indirect criminal contempt which could subject her to jail
time if found guilty, saying that Hadi had ignored his order to move
the inmates. On Thursday, Farnell fined Hadi $80,000 and on Friday,
Hadi, 60, submitted her resignation.

It's likely that she will remain at the agency until the end of January
or until Governor-elect Charlie Crist appoints a replacement.

The St. Petersburg Times reported that Farnell had stated that he would
"love to" jail Hadi and DCF says his comment indicates that he can't be
impartial in the matter.

After Hadi was charged with contempt, DCF said it had found $5 million
to fund 85 more beds by mid-December but said that more money was
needed to solve the problem. They had allocated another $6.8 million
from the 2006 budget in October to fund 87 beds.

Bob Dillinger, Pinellas-Pasco public defender who had pushed the issue
to place the mentally ill inmates in facilities where they could
receive mental health treatment said that he didn't feel it was Hadi's
fault but rather the Governor's for failure to authorize adequate
funding.

Several inmates at the Pinellas County Jail who should have been
transferred gouged their eyes out.

In October, Farnell had ruled that the social services agency was in
contempt for placing mentally ill inmates in jeopardy by failing to
comply with the state law. Due to a shortage of beds and funding, some
300 inmates statewide have been waiting more than three months for a
bed in mental health facilities.

In late September, Farnell ruled that he would fine DCF $1,000 a day,
at the expense of the taxpayer, for each mentally ill inmate who
remained in the Pinellas County Jail more than 15 days.

An agency spokesman said it would appeal Crockett's ruling. Although
Hadi is personally liable for the fine, the spokesman said the state
would pay it if the appeal failed.
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/a...wnLooming.html

DCF and Hadi are scheduled to reappear before Farnell on Dec. 14 for
another hearing and Farnell could levy even more sanctions if the
inmates still have not been moved.

Hadi also faces similar court hearings in both Jacksonville and Miami
this week and judges there have commented that they may also find her
in contempt. 12-04-06







http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.d...612020416/1039

Photo of Lucy Hadi
http://imgsrv.theledger.com/apps/pbc...=1039&MaxW=250

Published Saturday, December 2, 2006
AMID LEGAL CONFRONTATION

Florida's DCF Chief Says She Won't Stay
Lucy Hadi announces her retirement a day after a judge fined her
$80,000.

By ALEX LEARY, CHRIST TISCH & STEVE BOUSQUET
St. Petersburg Times


TALLAHASSEE - Florida's top child welfare official abruptly announced
her retirement Friday, a day after a Pinellas judge fined her $80,000
for not moving mentally ill jail inmates to hospitals.

Lucy Hadi, secretary of the Department of Children and Families and a
30-year veteran of state government, did not mention the legal
confrontation in a letter to Gov. Jeb Bush, saying only that "it is
time for me to do my advocacy from a different place."

In an interview, Hadi said her decision was prompted by "an
accumulation of things," not just the court action.

"I never wanted to be the punch drunk boxer in the ring not knowing
when it was time to leave," said Hadi, 60. "You just know when it's
time."

Her letter said she was willing to stay on the job until the end of
January. Hadi said she told George LeMieux, chief of state to
Gov.-elect Charlie Crist, that she would leave sooner if they wanted.

Hadi said she had not been offered the job of DCF secretary in Crist's
administration.

Her announcement did nothing to ease the tensions between the state and
a judge.

Pinellas Circuit Judge Crockett Farnell said Friday he plans to study
whether he can target Bush with fines or contempt charges.

"He's the one who drives the ship," Farnell told the St. Petersburg
Times. "I need to have somebody to apply the pressure to. I will do
whatever I have to do to get these guys some relief."

Farnell is out of line, said Kristy Campbell, a Bush spokeswoman. "If
this is true, it's dramatic overreaching by the judge and it is
absolutely disappointing he is not even trying to remain objective or
appear to remain objective."

Farnell said he was shocked by Hadi's retirement, but had no regrets
about fining her or threatening to jail her.

"I don't know of any other way to get everybody's attention to
understand what this situation is and what the conditions are like for
these poor folks," he said.

Farnell fined Hadi, saying she failed to comply with his orders to move
10 inmates from the Pinellas jail to a state hospital and for missing a
deadline to appeal.

(Polk County also has had significant delays in transferring inmates
with severe mental illness from the county jail into state hospitals.
As of Friday, there were 19 inmates at the Polk County Jail who had
been judged incompetent to stand trial. Thirteen of them had waited
longer than the legally mandated 15 days. An examination by The Ledger
last spring found some mentally ill Polk inmates waited months before
they were transferred.)

Farnell said he didn't know if Hadi would still face the fines or
contempt charges or if a successor or second-in-command would.

When she was fined, Hadi already faced criminal contempt charges for
keeping the inmates in jail longer than the 15 days Florida law allows.
At the time, the DCF had a wait list for beds topping more than 300
people, leaving patients in jail for an average of three months.

After the contempt charges, the agency said it had found $5 million for
more beds but acknowledged more funding was needed to remedy the
problem.

House Democrats on Friday called for the issue to be added to the
agenda for the Legislature's special session in January. The session
was called to deal only with property insurance.

Pinellas-Pasco public defender Bob Dillinger, whose office sought the
recent rulings from Farnell, said he was sad to see Hadi step down. He
thinks Gov. Bush is more responsible for the problem than Hadi, who he
suspects wanted more funding but was turned down by the governor's
office.

"I think it's a shame that it had to happen to her when in reality,
it's my belief that it's the governor's fault," Dillinger said.

"The governor drives the bus on this type of funding," he added. "The
governor's office tells agencies what they'll fund and won't fund. I
have a feeling she was told ,'You're not getting any more than this for
beds.'"

Campbell scoffed at that suggestion, saying Bush takes proposed budget
request from agencies and makes recommendations to the Legislature. She
said there was a $34 million increase in funding for mental health in
the past fiscal year but that there was a corresponding increase in
need, resulting in the bed shortage.

Dillinger said he had no regrets about pushing the issue.

"The problem had to be addressed. We had to do what we had to do," he
said. "When people are pulling their eyes out because they're not
getting treatment, something has to be done."

Bush issued a statement praising Hadi's service. "Through adoption,
Medicaid reform and community-based care, Secretary Hadi has
demonstrated a heart for the hurting and compassion for children in
crisis."

Over the long arc of her career, Hadi worked for both Gov. Lawton
Chiles, a Democrat, and Bush, a Republican. She worked in the state
Senate as a staff member on the Ways and Means Committee, as chief of
staff for Lt. Gov. Toni Jennings and as interim director of the state
Agency for Workforce Innovation.

She had a previous stint with the agency she now runs, but it too ended
in controversy. More than a decade ago, Hadi was embroiled in a
conflict involving a faulty computer system at the agency. A grand jury
report said Hadi's actions "can only be considered improper and wrong."
But she described her role as coming aboard at a bad time, and two
years ago, Bush asked her to return and lead the DCF.

Greegor wrote:
Get it before it's removed! Lucy D. Hadi BIO!
www.dcf.state.fl.us/admin/docs/hadibio.pdf

Wow! That makes it sound like there's something incriminating in it. I
see a regular CV, nothing incriminating at all.

Resignation letter amendment
http://www.miami.com/multimedia/miam...esignation.pdf

Say, little one, did you miss this?

"Her decision comes as the agency is accused of leaving in jail more
than 300 felony suspects found incompetent to stand trial or not guilty
by reason of insanity.

Agency officials say they do not have enough space in its mental
hospitals to comply with the growing number of judges' orders to
confine such defendants in locked down treatment centers.

On Thursday, Pinellas County Circuit Judge Crockett Farnell fined Hadi
after threatening to put her in jail if DCF did not explain why it was
ignoring court orders. "

Looks to me like the 'close down the facilities central hospitals and
send them all home" has come home to roost .

The judge should be fining the legislators whose names were on various
bills and or committees that made that silliness happen.

Wanna bet they did in fact tell the judge they didn't have beds for
those folks?

And Greg, as usual, it IS about money.

If the state has not built enough lock down facilities to house those
three hundred, how is that the director's fault?

Or do you think she should have just turned them out on the street?

Give us your honest opinion, Greg.

Personally I think it would pencil out to about 300 million bucks to
build enough units to hold that many. Building costs are really high
these days, and it's not just a matter of setting up some Quinset Huts,
now is it?

Man you are something else, Greg.

You'd kick a crippled dog for not pullin' the sled, wouldn't you,
little boy.

0:-



http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...a-news-broward

DCF chief retires one day after she is fined

Lucy Hadi kept mentally ill in jail

By Bill Hirschman And Mark Hollis
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Posted December 2 2006


Lucy Hadi, the embattled head of Florida's chief social services
agency, announced Friday that she was retiring -- one day after a judge
fined her $80,000 for not transferring mentally ill people out of jails
and into treatment hospitals.

Her departure as secretary of the Department of Children & Families
takes effect at the end of January so that she can help in the
transition to a successor.

Hadi, 60, told staffers her retirement had nothing to do with
contempt-of-court proceedings pending in five counties including
Broward and Miami-Dade, a spokesman said.

She had resigned Nov. 7 as a formality to let Gov.-elect Charlie Crist
name his own department head. But she wrote Gov. Jeb Bush Friday that
she wanted to amend her resignation to "retire from state service."

Hadi had not been asked to leave either by Bush or Crist, said Al
Zimmerman, her spokesman. Bush aides agreed. "There's no connection,"
said spokesman Anthony Deluise. "None."

Zimmerman said, "She had thought about retiring [before] and thought
this was a good time to do it."

Her decision comes as the agency is accused of leaving in jail more
than 300 felony suspects found incompetent to stand trial or not guilty
by reason of insanity.

Agency officials say they do not have enough space in its mental
hospitals to comply with the growing number of judges' orders to
confine such defendants in locked down treatment centers.

On Thursday, Pinellas County Circuit Judge Crockett Farnell fined Hadi
after threatening to put her in jail if DCF did not explain why it was
ignoring court orders.

In Broward, Circuit Judge Martin Bidwell is expected to rule on a
similar case next week. A similar ruling in Miami-Dade is on appeal.

When Hadi took the job in December 2004, she became the fourth
secretary in six years to oversee one of the most criticized agencies
in the state.

DCF had been reorganized twice by legislators because of mismanagement
dating back a decade. The agency lost track of hundreds of children in
its care and Jerry Regier, Hadi's predecessor, was accused of influence
peddling and favoritism in contracts.

At the time of her appointment, Hadi had already spent 24 years as an
administrator in DCF's predecessor agency. She once resigned her agency
job following a 1993 grand jury investigation into a botched
multimillion-dollar computer contract.

As secretary, Hadi drove the agency to be more accountable, said DCF
officials like Jack Moss, the Broward-based administrator who oversees
several South Florida counties. Now "everyone in the department from
front-line staff to the senior management is responsible for
performance measures that they have some control over," Moss said.

Some longtime children's advocates praised Hadi and said her decision
came as a surprise. Several sources said Hadi had been balancing her
high-pressure state job with caring for an ailing husband.

"I am very disappointed," said state Sen. Nan Rich, a Weston Democrat
who has headed legislative panels on social services. "I had really
hoped that she would continue on in the Crist administration. Lucy is
one of the most competent, knowledgeable people in regards to the
issues facing children and families."

Rich credited Hadi's leadership for large funding increases and other
changes that have "turned around what was a pretty dysfunctional
bureaucracy." She "stabilized a system that has caused so much
heartache over the years," Rich said.

At the same time, critics such as Broward Public Defender Howard
Finkelstein say the agency remains troubled, covering up problems with
statistics and underfunded to perform tasks it was created for.




http://www.northcountrygazette.org/a...sToRecuse.html

Originally Posted - December 4, 2006

Florida DCF Moves To Remove Judge From Inmate Case

TAMPA---A spokesman for the Florida Department of Children and Families
says that attorneys for the social services agency have filed a motion
for the recusal of Sixth Circuit Court Judge Crockett Farnell from a
case involving DCF's failure to timely transfer mentally ill inmates to
secure hospital facilities.

By law, once an inmate has been declared mentally incompetent to stand
trial, they must be transferred to a secure hospital facility within 15
days. There are currently 300 inmates statewide who have been held in
county jails longer than the requisite 15 days due to a shortage of
beds in state hospitals.

According to DCF spokesman Al Zimmerman, the motion seeks Farnell's
removal "on the basis that we do not believe the judge can be objective
on either case".

The other case to which he's referring is the contempt case of DCF
secretary Lucy Hadi. Late last month Farnell charged Hadi with seven
counts of indirect criminal contempt which could subject her to jail
time if found guilty, saying that Hadi had ignored his order to move
the inmates. On Thursday, Farnell fined Hadi $80,000 and on Friday,
Hadi, 60, submitted her resignation.

It's likely that she will remain at the agency until the end of January
or until Governor-elect Charlie Crist appoints a replacement.

The St. Petersburg Times reported that Farnell had stated that he would
"love to" jail Hadi and DCF says his comment indicates that he can't be
impartial in the matter.

After Hadi was charged with contempt, DCF said it had found $5 million
to fund 85 more beds by mid-December but said that more money was
needed to solve the problem. They had allocated another $6.8 million
from the 2006 budget in October to fund 87 beds.

Bob Dillinger, Pinellas-Pasco public defender who had pushed the issue
to place the mentally ill inmates in facilities where they could
receive mental health treatment said that he didn't feel it was Hadi's
fault but rather the Governor's for failure to authorize adequate
funding.

Several inmates at the Pinellas County Jail who should have been
transferred gouged their eyes out.

In October, Farnell had ruled that the social services agency was in
contempt for placing mentally ill inmates in jeopardy by failing to
comply with the state law. Due to a shortage of beds and funding, some
300 inmates statewide have been waiting more than three months for a
bed in mental health facilities.

In late September, Farnell ruled that he would fine DCF $1,000 a day,
at the expense of the taxpayer, for each mentally ill inmate who
remained in the Pinellas County Jail more than 15 days.

An agency spokesman said it would appeal Crockett's ruling. Although
Hadi is personally liable for the fine, the spokesman said the state
would pay it if the appeal failed.
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/a...wnLooming.html

DCF and Hadi are scheduled to reappear before Farnell on Dec. 14 for
another hearing and Farnell could levy even more sanctions if the
inmates still have not been moved.

Hadi also faces similar court hearings in both Jacksonville and Miami
this week and judges there have commented that they may also find her
in contempt. 12-04-06







http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.d...612020416/1039

Photo of Lucy Hadi
http://imgsrv.theledger.com/apps/pbc...=1039&MaxW=250

Published Saturday, December 2, 2006
AMID LEGAL CONFRONTATION

Florida's DCF Chief Says She Won't Stay
Lucy Hadi announces her retirement a day after a judge fined her
$80,000.

By ALEX LEARY, CHRIST TISCH & STEVE BOUSQUET
St. Petersburg Times


TALLAHASSEE - Florida's top child welfare official abruptly announced
her retirement Friday, a day after a Pinellas judge fined her $80,000
for not moving mentally ill jail inmates to hospitals.

Lucy Hadi, secretary of the Department of Children and Families and a
30-year veteran of state government, did not mention the legal
confrontation in a letter to Gov. Jeb Bush, saying only that "it is
time for me to do my advocacy from a different place."

In an interview, Hadi said her decision was prompted by "an
accumulation of things," not just the court action.

"I never wanted to be the punch drunk boxer in the ring not knowing
when it was time to leave," said Hadi, 60. "You just know when it's
time."

Her letter said she was willing to stay on the job until the end of
January. Hadi said she told George LeMieux, chief of state to
Gov.-elect Charlie Crist, that she would leave sooner if they wanted.

Hadi said she had not been offered the job of DCF secretary in Crist's
administration.

Her announcement did nothing to ease the tensions between the state and
a judge.

Pinellas Circuit Judge Crockett Farnell said Friday he plans to study
whether he can target Bush with fines or contempt charges.

"He's the one who drives the ship," Farnell told the St. Petersburg
Times. "I need to have somebody to apply the pressure to. I will do
whatever I have to do to get these guys some relief."

Farnell is out of line, said Kristy Campbell, a Bush spokeswoman. "If
this is true, it's dramatic overreaching by the judge and it is
absolutely disappointing he is not even trying to remain objective or
appear to remain objective."

Farnell said he was shocked by Hadi's retirement, but had no regrets
about fining her or threatening to jail her.

"I don't know of any other way to get everybody's attention to
understand what this situation is and what the conditions are like for
these poor folks," he said.

Farnell fined Hadi, saying she failed to comply with his orders to move
10 inmates from the Pinellas jail to a state hospital and for missing a
deadline to appeal.

(Polk County also has had significant delays in transferring inmates
with severe mental illness from the county jail into state hospitals.
As of Friday, there were 19 inmates at the Polk County Jail who had
been judged incompetent to stand trial. Thirteen of them had waited
longer than the legally mandated 15 days. An examination by The Ledger
last spring found some mentally ill Polk inmates waited months before
they were transferred.)

Farnell said he didn't know if Hadi would still face the fines or
contempt charges or if a successor or second-in-command would.

When she was fined, Hadi already faced criminal contempt charges for
keeping the inmates in jail longer than the 15 days Florida law allows.
At the time, the DCF had a wait list for beds topping more than 300
people, leaving patients in jail for an average of three months.

After the contempt charges, the agency said it had found $5 million for
more beds but acknowledged more funding was needed to remedy the
problem.

House Democrats on Friday called for the issue to be added to the
agenda for the Legislature's special session in January. The session
was called to deal only with property insurance.

Pinellas-Pasco public defender Bob Dillinger, whose office sought the
recent rulings from Farnell, said he was sad to see Hadi step down. He
thinks Gov. Bush is more responsible for the problem than Hadi, who he
suspects wanted more funding but was turned down by the governor's
office.

"I think it's a shame that it had to happen to her when in reality,
it's my belief that it's the governor's fault," Dillinger said.

"The governor drives the bus on this type of funding," he added. "The
governor's office tells agencies what they'll fund and won't fund. I
have a feeling she was told ,'You're not getting any more than this for
beds.'"

Campbell scoffed at that suggestion, saying Bush takes proposed budget
request from agencies and makes recommendations to the Legislature. She
said there was a $34 million increase in funding for mental health in
the past fiscal year but that there was a corresponding increase in
need, resulting in the bed shortage.

Dillinger said he had no regrets about pushing the issue.

"The problem had to be addressed. We had to do what we had to do," he
said. "When people are pulling their eyes out because they're not
getting treatment, something has to be done."

Bush issued a statement praising Hadi's service. "Through adoption,
Medicaid reform and community-based care, Secretary Hadi has
demonstrated a heart for the hurting and compassion for children in
crisis."

Over the long arc of her career, Hadi worked for both Gov. Lawton
Chiles, a Democrat, and Bush, a Republican. She worked in the state
Senate as a staff member on the Ways and Means Committee, as chief of
staff for Lt. Gov. Toni Jennings and as interim director of the state
Agency for Workforce Innovation.

She had a previous stint with the agency she now runs, but it too ended
in controversy. More than a decade ago, Hadi was embroiled in a
conflict involving a faulty computer system at the agency. A grand jury
report said Hadi's actions "can only be considered improper and wrong."
But she described her role as coming aboard at a bad time, and two
years ago, Bush asked her to return and lead the DCF.

Greegor wrote:
Get it before it's removed! Lucy D. Hadi BIO!
www.dcf.state.fl.us/admin/docs/hadibio.pdf

Resignation letter amendment
http://www.miami.com/multimedia/miam...esignation.pdf


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...a-news-broward

DCF chief retires one day after she is fined

Lucy Hadi kept mentally ill in jail

By Bill Hirschman And Mark Hollis
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Posted December 2 2006


Lucy Hadi, the embattled head of Florida's chief social services
agency, announced Friday that she was retiring -- one day after a judge
fined her $80,000 for not transferring mentally ill people out of jails
and into treatment hospitals.

Her departure as secretary of the Department of Children & Families
takes effect at the end of January so that she can help in the
transition to a successor.

Hadi, 60, told staffers her retirement had nothing to do with
contempt-of-court proceedings pending in five counties including
Broward and Miami-Dade, a spokesman said.

She had resigned Nov. 7 as a formality to let Gov.-elect Charlie Crist
name his own department head. But she wrote Gov. Jeb Bush Friday that
she wanted to amend her resignation to "retire from state service."

Hadi had not been asked to leave either by Bush or Crist, said Al
Zimmerman, her spokesman. Bush aides agreed. "There's no connection,"
said spokesman Anthony Deluise. "None."

Zimmerman said, "She had thought about retiring [before] and thought
this was a good time to do it."

Her decision comes as the agency is accused of leaving in jail more
than 300 felony suspects found incompetent to stand trial or not guilty
by reason of insanity.

Clap, clap, clap!!!!!

Better safe in jail than out on the street doing what?

What they were arrested for in the first place?

Or worse?

Who's going to make sure they take whatever meds they're supposed to
take?

Dan Sullivan wrote:
Greegor wrote:
Get it before it's removed! Lucy D. Hadi BIO!
www.dcf.state.fl.us/admin/docs/hadibio.pdf

Resignation letter amendment
http://www.miami.com/multimedia/miam...esignation.pdf


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...a-news-broward

DCF chief retires one day after she is fined

Lucy Hadi kept mentally ill in jail

By Bill Hirschman And Mark Hollis
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Posted December 2 2006


Lucy Hadi, the embattled head of Florida's chief social services
agency, announced Friday that she was retiring -- one day after a judge
fined her $80,000 for not transferring mentally ill people out of jails
and into treatment hospitals.

Her departure as secretary of the Department of Children & Families
takes effect at the end of January so that she can help in the
transition to a successor.

Hadi, 60, told staffers her retirement had nothing to do with
contempt-of-court proceedings pending in five counties including
Broward and Miami-Dade, a spokesman said.

She had resigned Nov. 7 as a formality to let Gov.-elect Charlie Crist
name his own department head. But she wrote Gov. Jeb Bush Friday that
she wanted to amend her resignation to "retire from state service."

Hadi had not been asked to leave either by Bush or Crist, said Al
Zimmerman, her spokesman. Bush aides agreed. "There's no connection,"
said spokesman Anthony Deluise. "None."

Zimmerman said, "She had thought about retiring [before] and thought
this was a good time to do it."

Her decision comes as the agency is accused of leaving in jail more
than 300 felony suspects found incompetent to stand trial or not guilty
by reason of insanity.

Clap, clap, clap!!!!!

Better safe in jail than out on the street doing what?

What they were arrested for in the first place?

Or worse?

Who's going to make sure they take whatever meds they're supposed to
take?

Funny that Greg approves of this judge, but not others. Isn't it?

0:-

Did these 300 "insanity defense" defendants
show up all at once?

Who suggested turning them loose, Dan?

She had TIME to get on top of this problem.
Two other Judges may fine her also for such stuff!





0:- wrote:
Dan Sullivan wrote:
Greegor wrote:
Get it before it's removed! Lucy D. Hadi BIO!
www.dcf.state.fl.us/admin/docs/hadibio.pdf

Resignation letter amendment
http://www.miami.com/multimedia/miam...esignation.pdf


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...a-news-broward

DCF chief retires one day after she is fined

Lucy Hadi kept mentally ill in jail

By Bill Hirschman And Mark Hollis
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Posted December 2 2006


Lucy Hadi, the embattled head of Florida's chief social services
agency, announced Friday that she was retiring -- one day after a judge
fined her $80,000 for not transferring mentally ill people out of jails
and into treatment hospitals.

Her departure as secretary of the Department of Children & Families
takes effect at the end of January so that she can help in the
transition to a successor.

Hadi, 60, told staffers her retirement had nothing to do with
contempt-of-court proceedings pending in five counties including
Broward and Miami-Dade, a spokesman said.

She had resigned Nov. 7 as a formality to let Gov.-elect Charlie Crist
name his own department head. But she wrote Gov. Jeb Bush Friday that
she wanted to amend her resignation to "retire from state service."

Hadi had not been asked to leave either by Bush or Crist, said Al
Zimmerman, her spokesman. Bush aides agreed. "There's no connection,"
said spokesman Anthony Deluise. "None."

Zimmerman said, "She had thought about retiring [before] and thought
this was a good time to do it."

Her decision comes as the agency is accused of leaving in jail more
than 300 felony suspects found incompetent to stand trial or not guilty
by reason of insanity.

Clap, clap, clap!!!!!

Better safe in jail than out on the street doing what?

What they were arrested for in the first place?

Or worse?

Who's going to make sure they take whatever meds they're supposed to
take?

Funny that Greg approves of this judge, but not others. Isn't it?

0:-

Greegor wrote:
Did these 300 "insanity defense" defendants
show up all at once?

Learn to read, Greg.

That's not what it said.

Who suggested turning them loose, Dan?

Were they kept in jail when there was another appropriate AVAILABLE
place for them to be?

She had TIME to get on top of this problem.
Two other Judges may fine her also for such stuff!

Greegor wrote:
Did these 300 "insanity defense" defendants
show up all at once?

You wouldn't be suggesting that if there were no beds for the 300,
there had to be if you did them one at a time, would you?

Who suggested turning them loose, Dan?

Where should they be placed?

She had TIME to get on top of this problem.

And the money?

Where would they be placed, Greg?

Two other Judges may fine her also for such stuff!

You agree then that judges should penalize the executive branch for
conditions caused by the legislative?

If you bother to read a bit more carefully it's not hard to see that
there were no funds for creating those 300 beds, Greg. Not one of them,
not ten, not 50, not 300.

Of course, by your reconning then if she could place one the judge
shouldn't have fined her?

Greg, DCF doesn't create money. It begs for it like all government
agencies.

If they do not get enough to perform their job then suing them or
fining them isn't going to MAKE them do the job.

Could be why she resigned, don't you think?

If I needed a hammer and a saw to build something for my "boss" and he
refused to provide the saw then I guess I'd just have to quit, or be
"fined."

Where would you place those 300, Greg?

0:-





0:- wrote:
Dan Sullivan wrote:
Greegor wrote:
Get it before it's removed! Lucy D. Hadi BIO!
www.dcf.state.fl.us/admin/docs/hadibio.pdf

Resignation letter amendment
http://www.miami.com/multimedia/miam...esignation.pdf


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...a-news-broward

DCF chief retires one day after she is fined

Lucy Hadi kept mentally ill in jail

By Bill Hirschman And Mark Hollis
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Posted December 2 2006


Lucy Hadi, the embattled head of Florida's chief social services
agency, announced Friday that she was retiring -- one day after a judge
fined her $80,000 for not transferring mentally ill people out of jails
and into treatment hospitals.

Her departure as secretary of the Department of Children & Families
takes effect at the end of January so that she can help in the
transition to a successor.

Hadi, 60, told staffers her retirement had nothing to do with
contempt-of-court proceedings pending in five counties including
Broward and Miami-Dade, a spokesman said.

She had resigned Nov. 7 as a formality to let Gov.-elect Charlie Crist
name his own department head. But she wrote Gov. Jeb Bush Friday that
she wanted to amend her resignation to "retire from state service."

Hadi had not been asked to leave either by Bush or Crist, said Al
Zimmerman, her spokesman. Bush aides agreed. "There's no connection,"
said spokesman Anthony Deluise. "None."

Zimmerman said, "She had thought about retiring [before] and thought
this was a good time to do it."

Her decision comes as the agency is accused of leaving in jail more
than 300 felony suspects found incompetent to stand trial or not guilty
by reason of insanity.

Clap, clap, clap!!!!!

Better safe in jail than out on the street doing what?

What they were arrested for in the first place?

Or worse?

Who's going to make sure they take whatever meds they're supposed to
take?

Funny that Greg approves of this judge, but not others. Isn't it?

0:-

You think the Governor has no power to resolve
such a problem?


0:- wrote:
Greegor wrote:
Did these 300 "insanity defense" defendants
show up all at once?

You wouldn't be suggesting that if there were no beds for the 300,
there had to be if you did them one at a time, would you?

Who suggested turning them loose, Dan?

Where should they be placed?

She had TIME to get on top of this problem.

And the money?

Where would they be placed, Greg?

Two other Judges may fine her also for such stuff!

You agree then that judges should penalize the executive branch for
conditions caused by the legislative?

If you bother to read a bit more carefully it's not hard to see that
there were no funds for creating those 300 beds, Greg. Not one of them,
not ten, not 50, not 300.

Of course, by your reconning then if she could place one the judge
shouldn't have fined her?

Greg, DCF doesn't create money. It begs for it like all government
agencies.

If they do not get enough to perform their job then suing them or
fining them isn't going to MAKE them do the job.

Could be why she resigned, don't you think?

If I needed a hammer and a saw to build something for my "boss" and he
refused to provide the saw then I guess I'd just have to quit, or be
"fined."

Where would you place those 300, Greg?

0:-





0:- wrote:
Dan Sullivan wrote:
Greegor wrote:
Get it before it's removed! Lucy D. Hadi BIO!
www.dcf.state.fl.us/admin/docs/hadibio.pdf

Resignation letter amendment
http://www.miami.com/multimedia/miam...esignation.pdf


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...a-news-broward

DCF chief retires one day after she is fined

Lucy Hadi kept mentally ill in jail

By Bill Hirschman And Mark Hollis
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Posted December 2 2006


Lucy Hadi, the embattled head of Florida's chief social services
agency, announced Friday that she was retiring -- one day after a judge
fined her $80,000 for not transferring mentally ill people out of jails
and into treatment hospitals.

Her departure as secretary of the Department of Children & Families
takes effect at the end of January so that she can help in the
transition to a successor.

Hadi, 60, told staffers her retirement had nothing to do with
contempt-of-court proceedings pending in five counties including
Broward and Miami-Dade, a spokesman said.

She had resigned Nov. 7 as a formality to let Gov.-elect Charlie Crist
name his own department head. But she wrote Gov. Jeb Bush Friday that
she wanted to amend her resignation to "retire from state service."

Hadi had not been asked to leave either by Bush or Crist, said Al
Zimmerman, her spokesman. Bush aides agreed. "There's no connection,"
said spokesman Anthony Deluise. "None."

Zimmerman said, "She had thought about retiring [before] and thought
this was a good time to do it."

Her decision comes as the agency is accused of leaving in jail more
than 300 felony suspects found incompetent to stand trial or not guilty
by reason of insanity.

Clap, clap, clap!!!!!

Better safe in jail than out on the street doing what?

What they were arrested for in the first place?

Or worse?

Who's going to make sure they take whatever meds they're supposed to
take?

Funny that Greg approves of this judge, but not others. Isn't it?

0:-

Greegor wrote:
You think the Governor has no power to resolve
such a problem?

The governor was fined?

And the question, Greg, lest you forget, was where would YOU, Greg
Hanson, place the 300.

So, where?

What makes you think the governor has the money without taking it from
some other place with just as desperate a need?

You have such an unrealistic view of the world. Does it come from being
suckled continuously while on sabbatical?

Kane




0:- wrote:
Greegor wrote:
Did these 300 "insanity defense" defendants
show up all at once?

You wouldn't be suggesting that if there were no beds for the 300,
there had to be if you did them one at a time, would you?

Who suggested turning them loose, Dan?

Where should they be placed?

She had TIME to get on top of this problem.

And the money?

Where would they be placed, Greg?

Two other Judges may fine her also for such stuff!

You agree then that judges should penalize the executive branch for
conditions caused by the legislative?

If you bother to read a bit more carefully it's not hard to see that
there were no funds for creating those 300 beds, Greg. Not one of them,
not ten, not 50, not 300.

Of course, by your reconning then if she could place one the judge
shouldn't have fined her?

Greg, DCF doesn't create money. It begs for it like all government
agencies.

If they do not get enough to perform their job then suing them or
fining them isn't going to MAKE them do the job.

Could be why she resigned, don't you think?

If I needed a hammer and a saw to build something for my "boss" and he
refused to provide the saw then I guess I'd just have to quit, or be
"fined."

Where would you place those 300, Greg?

0:-





0:- wrote:
Dan Sullivan wrote:
Greegor wrote:
Get it before it's removed! Lucy D. Hadi BIO!
www.dcf.state.fl.us/admin/docs/hadibio.pdf

Resignation letter amendment
http://www.miami.com/multimedia/miam...esignation.pdf


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...a-news-broward

DCF chief retires one day after she is fined

Lucy Hadi kept mentally ill in jail

By Bill Hirschman And Mark Hollis
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Posted December 2 2006


Lucy Hadi, the embattled head of Florida's chief social services
agency, announced Friday that she was retiring -- one day after a judge
fined her $80,000 for not transferring mentally ill people out of jails
and into treatment hospitals.

Her departure as secretary of the Department of Children & Families
takes effect at the end of January so that she can help in the
transition to a successor.

Hadi, 60, told staffers her retirement had nothing to do with
contempt-of-court proceedings pending in five counties including
Broward and Miami-Dade, a spokesman said.

She had resigned Nov. 7 as a formality to let Gov.-elect Charlie Crist
name his own department head. But she wrote Gov. Jeb Bush Friday that
she wanted to amend her resignation to "retire from state service."

Hadi had not been asked to leave either by Bush or Crist, said Al
Zimmerman, her spokesman. Bush aides agreed. "There's no connection,"
said spokesman Anthony Deluise. "None."

Zimmerman said, "She had thought about retiring [before] and thought
this was a good time to do it."

Her decision comes as the agency is accused of leaving in jail more
than 300 felony suspects found incompetent to stand trial or not guilty
by reason of insanity.

Clap, clap, clap!!!!!

Better safe in jail than out on the street doing what?

What they were arrested for in the first place?

Or worse?

Who's going to make sure they take whatever meds they're supposed to
take?

Funny that Greg approves of this judge, but not others. Isn't it?

0:-

Greegor wrote:
You think the Governor has no power to resolve
such a problem?

Kane wrote
The governor was fined?

Where did you get that idea?

Kane wrote
And the question, Greg, lest you forget, was where
would YOU, Greg Hanson, place the 300.

They could send them to the Cherokee Mental Health Institute!

The enema treatments would do them some good right?