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Old August 20th 07, 05:47 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
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Default Family wishes for an apology, Couple still angry about when childrenwere taken from them

Family wishes for an apology
Couple still angry about when children were taken from them
By TED CZECH
Daily Record/Sunday News
Article Launched: 08/19/2007 02:06:07 AM EDT

http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_6661225

Aug 19, 2007 — Heather Staley would pace back and forth late at night
until she found herself on the floor, looking up at the ceiling.

When sleep would come for her common-law husband, Nathanial Robertson,
he would wake early in the morning, sweating, crying, screaming.

For seven months, starting July 2004, the couple's eight children were
in foster care.

To this day, they say they still do not know why the children were taken.

"The whole outcome was we were never accused of abuse or neglect,"
Staley said Tuesday.

Staley and Robertson's case received significant press coverage,
beginning with a fire that occurred in their Manchester Township home a
month before their children were taken.

But York County Children and Youth Services had been investigating them
for months. Robertson and Staley resisted caseworker visits, insisting
their children were well cared for.

"They didn't figure I would fight them," Robertson said. "My kids did
not deserve to be in foster care - at all."

Although Staley, 32, and Robertson, 42 - who now live in Endicott,
Advertisement
N.Y. - regained custody of their children in February 2005, they never
disclosed that publicly for fear of judicial repercussions.

Family investigated

York County Children and Youth Services began monitoring the family in
early 2004. A caseworker visited their home, saying the agency received
a report the children did not have beds and the house was without heat,
according to court documents provided by the couple.

Robertson said the agency didn't find anything wrong but continued to
make visits and tried to get Robertson and Staley to consent to an
agreement on the children's welfare, court documents state.

The four eldest children were said to be at-risk because they were
truant, inappropriately dressed for school and sent there without
adequate meals, court documents stated.

The agency increased its efforts to gain custody of the children when a
fire broke out June 16, 2004, at the home Robertson and Staley shared.

Robertson was awakened by Staley and led five of his children and a
neighbor's child out of the burning home, then re-entered twice to save
the last two of his children.

The agency alleged Robertson had been drinking that night and requested
a hearing to discuss the children's welfare. Robertson vehemently denied
the allegation.

At a July 13 hearing, Judge Tom Kelley issued a warrant for Heather
Staley's arrest because she did not appear in court that day with the
children, Robertson said. Staley was in Scranton, where they had just
moved, giving birth to her eighth child.

The couple contended there was nothing in any court documents that said
the entire family had to appear.

Despite their protests, their children were placed into foster care by a
court order signed by Judge Tom Kelley July 16, 2004.

Stateinvestigation

While their children were in foster care, Robertson and Staley lodged a
complaint with Gov. Ed Rendell's office.

Charles A. Tyrrell, then-acting bureau director of the Department of
Public Welfare's Office of Children, Youth and Families, responded to
the couple in a letter dated Nov. 5, 2004. The letter was provided to
the York Daily Record/Sunday News by the couple.

Tyrrell wrote that his office "is looking into your case and the issues
that you presented." He closed the letter by referring Robertson and
Staley to regional supervisor Marie James if they had any further concerns.

James, reached Wednesday, referred all media calls to Stacey Witalec,
spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of Welfare.

"I can't give you any specifics on any one case ... it's just a privacy
issue," Witalec said Wednesday.

Staley said last week they have not heard anything from the office on
the status of the investigation, other than it is ongoing.

A family again

On Feb. 14, 2005, Kelley signed a court order allowing Robertson and
Staley's children to be returned to them, a court document states.

"It was pretty much unbelievable," Staley said last week about her
children being returned to her. "I was expecting it, but there were no
guarantees."

The document states the couple had satisfied criteria set forth in a
family service plan.

Lackawanna County Children and Youth continued to monitor the family,
and, about seven months later, another court order closed the case entirely.

They moved to New York in 2005, buying a six-bedroom house. Staley gave
birth to their ninth child, Queen, about two years ago. Their children
have excelled in academics, music, art and sports, but they still bear
the "scars" of their foster care, Staley wrote.

"That part of our lives is not closed yet until I get some apologies for
what we went through," she said.

Now, 9

The Robertson children: Queen, 2; Anthony, 3; Vincent, 4; David, 5;
Violett, 6; Natalie, 9; Heather, 11; Nathanial, 12; Lillie, 13.




"Having child protective services In charge of reuniting
a family after they remove the children from their home, is like taking
the victims of a brutal rape, assault and kidnapping than placing "The
Rapist" In charge of the victims therapy."-- "V" Or Someone else.





CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NSA / CIA
WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....

CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.

every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com

Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS

*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*

Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5

CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, HAPPILY DESTROYING HUNDREDS OF INNOCENT
FAMILIES YEARLY NATIONWIDE AND COMING TO YOU'RE HOME SOON...


BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...

  #2  
Old August 21st 07, 01:20 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Greegor
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Default Family wishes for an apology, Couple still angry about when children were taken from them

Dan do you have anything to say about this one?

On Aug 19, 11:47 pm, fx wrote:
Family wishes for an apology
Couple still angry about when children were taken from them
By TED CZECH
Daily Record/Sunday News
Article Launched: 08/19/2007 02:06:07 AM EDT

http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_6661225

Aug 19, 2007 - Heather Staley would pace back and forth late at night
until she found herself on the floor, looking up at the ceiling.

When sleep would come for her common-law husband, Nathanial Robertson,
he would wake early in the morning, sweating, crying, screaming.

For seven months, starting July 2004, the couple's eight children were
in foster care.

To this day, they say they still do not know why the children were taken.

"The whole outcome was we were never accused of abuse or neglect,"
Staley said Tuesday.

Staley and Robertson's case received significant press coverage,
beginning with a fire that occurred in their Manchester Township home a
month before their children were taken.

But York County Children and Youth Services had been investigating them
for months. Robertson and Staley resisted caseworker visits, insisting
their children were well cared for.

"They didn't figure I would fight them," Robertson said. "My kids did
not deserve to be in foster care - at all."

Although Staley, 32, and Robertson, 42 - who now live in Endicott,
Advertisement
N.Y. - regained custody of their children in February 2005, they never
disclosed that publicly for fear of judicial repercussions.

Family investigated

York County Children and Youth Services began monitoring the family in
early 2004. A caseworker visited their home, saying the agency received
a report the children did not have beds and the house was without heat,
according to court documents provided by the couple.

Robertson said the agency didn't find anything wrong but continued to
make visits and tried to get Robertson and Staley to consent to an
agreement on the children's welfare, court documents state.

The four eldest children were said to be at-risk because they were
truant, inappropriately dressed for school and sent there without
adequate meals, court documents stated.

The agency increased its efforts to gain custody of the children when a
fire broke out June 16, 2004, at the home Robertson and Staley shared.

Robertson was awakened by Staley and led five of his children and a
neighbor's child out of the burning home, then re-entered twice to save
the last two of his children.

The agency alleged Robertson had been drinking that night and requested
a hearing to discuss the children's welfare. Robertson vehemently denied
the allegation.

At a July 13 hearing, Judge Tom Kelley issued a warrant for Heather
Staley's arrest because she did not appear in court that day with the
children, Robertson said. Staley was in Scranton, where they had just
moved, giving birth to her eighth child.

The couple contended there was nothing in any court documents that said
the entire family had to appear.

Despite their protests, their children were placed into foster care by a
court order signed by Judge Tom Kelley July 16, 2004.

Stateinvestigation

While their children were in foster care, Robertson and Staley lodged a
complaint with Gov. Ed Rendell's office.

Charles A. Tyrrell, then-acting bureau director of the Department of
Public Welfare's Office of Children, Youth and Families, responded to
the couple in a letter dated Nov. 5, 2004. The letter was provided to
the York Daily Record/Sunday News by the couple.

Tyrrell wrote that his office "is looking into your case and the issues
that you presented." He closed the letter by referring Robertson and
Staley to regional supervisor Marie James if they had any further concerns.

James, reached Wednesday, referred all media calls to Stacey Witalec,
spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of Welfare.

"I can't give you any specifics on any one case ... it's just a privacy
issue," Witalec said Wednesday.

Staley said last week they have not heard anything from the office on
the status of the investigation, other than it is ongoing.

A family again

On Feb. 14, 2005, Kelley signed a court order allowing Robertson and
Staley's children to be returned to them, a court document states.

"It was pretty much unbelievable," Staley said last week about her
children being returned to her. "I was expecting it, but there were no
guarantees."

The document states the couple had satisfied criteria set forth in a
family service plan.

Lackawanna County Children and Youth continued to monitor the family,
and, about seven months later, another court order closed the case entirely.

They moved to New York in 2005, buying a six-bedroom house. Staley gave
birth to their ninth child, Queen, about two years ago. Their children
have excelled in academics, music, art and sports, but they still bear
the "scars" of their foster care, Staley wrote.

"That part of our lives is not closed yet until I get some apologies for
what we went through," she said.

Now, 9

The Robertson children: Queen, 2; Anthony, 3; Vincent, 4; David, 5;
Violett, 6; Natalie, 9; Heather, 11; Nathanial, 12; Lillie, 13.

"Having child protective services In charge of reuniting
a family after they remove the children from their home, is like taking
the victims of a brutal rape, assault and kidnapping than placing "The
Rapist" In charge of the victims therapy."-- "V" Or Someone else.

CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NSA / CIA
WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....

CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.

every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com

Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS

*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*

Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5

CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, HAPPILY DESTROYING HUNDREDS OF INNOCENT
FAMILIES YEARLY NATIONWIDE AND COMING TO YOU'RE HOME SOON...

BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...



  #3  
Old August 21st 07, 01:45 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
firemonkey
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Posts: 548
Default greg fears showing how stupid he is by.......

On Aug 20, 7:20 pm, Greegor wrote:
Dan do you have anything to say about this one?

On Aug 19, 11:47 pm, fx wrote:

Family wishes for an apology
Couple still angry about when children were taken from them
By TED CZECH
Daily Record/Sunday News
Article Launched: 08/19/2007 02:06:07 AM EDT


http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_6661225


Aug 19, 2007 - Heather Staley would pace back and forth late at night
until she found herself on the floor, looking up at the ceiling.


When sleep would come for her common-law husband, Nathanial Robertson,
he would wake early in the morning, sweating, crying, screaming.


For seven months, starting July 2004, the couple's eight children were
in foster care.


To this day, they say they still do not know why the children were taken.


"The whole outcome was we were never accused of abuse or neglect,"
Staley said Tuesday.


Staley and Robertson's case received significant press coverage,
beginning with a fire that occurred in their Manchester Township home a
month before their children were taken.


But York County Children and Youth Services had been investigating them
for months. Robertson and Staley resisted caseworker visits, insisting
their children were well cared for.


"They didn't figure I would fight them," Robertson said. "My kids did
not deserve to be in foster care - at all."


Although Staley, 32, and Robertson, 42 - who now live in Endicott,
Advertisement
N.Y. - regained custody of their children in February 2005, they never
disclosed that publicly for fear of judicial repercussions.


Family investigated


York County Children and Youth Services began monitoring the family in
early 2004. A caseworker visited their home, saying the agency received
a report the children did not have beds and the house was without heat,
according to court documents provided by the couple.


Robertson said the agency didn't find anything wrong but continued to
make visits and tried to get Robertson and Staley to consent to an
agreement on the children's welfare, court documents state.


The four eldest children were said to be at-risk because they were
truant, inappropriately dressed for school and sent there without
adequate meals, court documents stated.


The agency increased its efforts to gain custody of the children when a
fire broke out June 16, 2004, at the home Robertson and Staley shared.


Robertson was awakened by Staley and led five of his children and a
neighbor's child out of the burning home, then re-entered twice to save
the last two of his children.


The agency alleged Robertson had been drinking that night and requested
a hearing to discuss the children's welfare. Robertson vehemently denied
the allegation.


At a July 13 hearing, Judge Tom Kelley issued a warrant for Heather
Staley's arrest because she did not appear in court that day with the
children, Robertson said. Staley was in Scranton, where they had just
moved, giving birth to her eighth child.


The couple contended there was nothing in any court documents that said
the entire family had to appear.


Despite their protests, their children were placed into foster care by a
court order signed by Judge Tom Kelley July 16, 2004.


Stateinvestigation


While their children were in foster care, Robertson and Staley lodged a
complaint with Gov. Ed Rendell's office.


Charles A. Tyrrell, then-acting bureau director of the Department of
Public Welfare's Office of Children, Youth and Families, responded to
the couple in a letter dated Nov. 5, 2004. The letter was provided to
the York Daily Record/Sunday News by the couple.


Tyrrell wrote that his office "is looking into your case and the issues
that you presented." He closed the letter by referring Robertson and
Staley to regional supervisor Marie James if they had any further concerns.


James, reached Wednesday, referred all media calls to Stacey Witalec,
spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of Welfare.


"I can't give you any specifics on any one case ... it's just a privacy
issue," Witalec said Wednesday.


Staley said last week they have not heard anything from the office on
the status of the investigation, other than it is ongoing.


A family again


On Feb. 14, 2005, Kelley signed a court order allowing Robertson and
Staley's children to be returned to them, a court document states.


"It was pretty much unbelievable," Staley said last week about her
children being returned to her. "I was expecting it, but there were no
guarantees."


The document states the couple had satisfied criteria set forth in a
family service plan.


Lackawanna County Children and Youth continued to monitor the family,
and, about seven months later, another court order closed the case entirely.


They moved to New York in 2005, buying a six-bedroom house. Staley gave
birth to their ninth child, Queen, about two years ago. Their children
have excelled in academics, music, art and sports, but they still bear
the "scars" of their foster care, Staley wrote.


"That part of our lives is not closed yet until I get some apologies for
what we went through," she said.


Now, 9


The Robertson children: Queen, 2; Anthony, 3; Vincent, 4; David, 5;
Violett, 6; Natalie, 9; Heather, 11; Nathanial, 12; Lillie, 13.


"Having child protective services In charge of reuniting
a family after they remove the children from their home, is like taking
the victims of a brutal rape, assault and kidnapping than placing "The
Rapist" In charge of the victims therapy."-- "V" Or Someone else.


CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NSA / CIA
WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....


CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.


every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...


http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf


http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com


Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS


*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*


Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5


CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, HAPPILY DESTROYING HUNDREDS OF INNOCENT
FAMILIES YEARLY NATIONWIDE AND COMING TO YOU'RE HOME SOON...


BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...


not answering his own questions.
Why don't you go first greg, or are you afraid to demonstrate your
stupidity again?
ROFL

  #4  
Old August 21st 07, 02:03 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Greegor
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Posts: 4,243
Default Dan?

Dan do you have anything to say about this one?

On Aug 19, 11:47 pm, fx wrote:


Family wishes for an apology
Couple still angry about when children were taken from them
By TED CZECH
Daily Record/Sunday News
Article Launched: 08/19/2007 02:06:07 AM EDT


http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_6661225


Aug 19, 2007 - Heather Staley would pace back and forth late at night
until she found herself on the floor, looking up at the ceiling.


When sleep would come for her common-law husband, Nathanial Robertson,
he would wake early in the morning, sweating, crying, screaming.


For seven months, starting July 2004, the couple's eight children were
in foster care.


To this day, they say they still do not know why the children were taken.


"The whole outcome was we were never accused of abuse or neglect,"
Staley said Tuesday.


Staley and Robertson's case received significant press coverage,
beginning with a fire that occurred in their Manchester Township home a
month before their children were taken.


But York County Children and Youth Services had been investigating them
for months. Robertson and Staley resisted caseworker visits, insisting
their children were well cared for.


"They didn't figure I would fight them," Robertson said. "My kids did
not deserve to be in foster care - at all."


Although Staley, 32, and Robertson, 42 - who now live in Endicott,
Advertisement
N.Y. - regained custody of their children in February 2005, they never
disclosed that publicly for fear of judicial repercussions.


Family investigated


York County Children and Youth Services began monitoring the family in
early 2004. A caseworker visited their home, saying the agency received
a report the children did not have beds and the house was without heat,
according to court documents provided by the couple.


Robertson said the agency didn't find anything wrong but continued to
make visits and tried to get Robertson and Staley to consent to an
agreement on the children's welfare, court documents state.


The four eldest children were said to be at-risk because they were
truant, inappropriately dressed for school and sent there without
adequate meals, court documents stated.


The agency increased its efforts to gain custody of the children when a
fire broke out June 16, 2004, at the home Robertson and Staley shared.


Robertson was awakened by Staley and led five of his children and a
neighbor's child out of the burning home, then re-entered twice to save
the last two of his children.


The agency alleged Robertson had been drinking that night and requested
a hearing to discuss the children's welfare. Robertson vehemently denied
the allegation.


At a July 13 hearing, Judge Tom Kelley issued a warrant for Heather
Staley's arrest because she did not appear in court that day with the
children, Robertson said. Staley was in Scranton, where they had just
moved, giving birth to her eighth child.


The couple contended there was nothing in any court documents that said
the entire family had to appear.


Despite their protests, their children were placed into foster care by a
court order signed by Judge Tom Kelley July 16, 2004.


Stateinvestigation


While their children were in foster care, Robertson and Staley lodged a
complaint with Gov. Ed Rendell's office.


Charles A. Tyrrell, then-acting bureau director of the Department of
Public Welfare's Office of Children, Youth and Families, responded to
the couple in a letter dated Nov. 5, 2004. The letter was provided to
the York Daily Record/Sunday News by the couple.


Tyrrell wrote that his office "is looking into your case and the issues
that you presented." He closed the letter by referring Robertson and
Staley to regional supervisor Marie James if they had any further concerns.


James, reached Wednesday, referred all media calls to Stacey Witalec,
spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of Welfare.


"I can't give you any specifics on any one case ... it's just a privacy
issue," Witalec said Wednesday.


Staley said last week they have not heard anything from the office on
the status of the investigation, other than it is ongoing.


A family again


On Feb. 14, 2005, Kelley signed a court order allowing Robertson and
Staley's children to be returned to them, a court document states.


"It was pretty much unbelievable," Staley said last week about her
children being returned to her. "I was expecting it, but there were no
guarantees."


The document states the couple had satisfied criteria set forth in a
family service plan.


Lackawanna County Children and Youth continued to monitor the family,
and, about seven months later, another court order closed the case entirely.


They moved to New York in 2005, buying a six-bedroom house. Staley gave
birth to their ninth child, Queen, about two years ago. Their children
have excelled in academics, music, art and sports, but they still bear
the "scars" of their foster care, Staley wrote.


"That part of our lives is not closed yet until I get some apologies for
what we went through," she said.


Now, 9


The Robertson children: Queen, 2; Anthony, 3; Vincent, 4; David, 5;
Violett, 6; Natalie, 9; Heather, 11; Nathanial, 12; Lillie, 13.


"Having child protective services In charge of reuniting
a family after they remove the children from their home, is like taking
the victims of a brutal rape, assault and kidnapping than placing "The
Rapist" In charge of the victims therapy."-- "V" Or Someone else.


  #5  
Old August 21st 07, 04:01 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
firemonkey
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Posts: 548
Default Dan?

On Aug 20, 8:03 pm, Greegor wrote:
Dan do you have anything to say about this one?

On Aug 19, 11:47 pm, fx wrote:


Family wishes for an apology
Couple still angry about when children were taken from them
By TED CZECH
Daily Record/Sunday News
Article Launched: 08/19/2007 02:06:07 AM EDT


http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_6661225


Aug 19, 2007 - Heather Staley would pace back and forth late at night
until she found herself on the floor, looking up at the ceiling.


When sleep would come for her common-law husband, Nathanial Robertson,
he would wake early in the morning, sweating, crying, screaming.


For seven months, starting July 2004, the couple's eight children were
in foster care.


To this day, they say they still do not know why the children were taken.


"The whole outcome was we were never accused of abuse or neglect,"
Staley said Tuesday.


Staley and Robertson's case received significant press coverage,
beginning with a fire that occurred in their Manchester Township home a
month before their children were taken.


But York County Children and Youth Services had been investigating them
for months. Robertson and Staley resisted caseworker visits, insisting
their children were well cared for.


"They didn't figure I would fight them," Robertson said. "My kids did
not deserve to be in foster care - at all."


Although Staley, 32, and Robertson, 42 - who now live in Endicott,
Advertisement
N.Y. - regained custody of their children in February 2005, they never
disclosed that publicly for fear of judicial repercussions.


Family investigated


York County Children and Youth Services began monitoring the family in
early 2004. A caseworker visited their home, saying the agency received
a report the children did not have beds and the house was without heat,
according to court documents provided by the couple.


Robertson said the agency didn't find anything wrong but continued to
make visits and tried to get Robertson and Staley to consent to an
agreement on the children's welfare, court documents state.


The four eldest children were said to be at-risk because they were
truant, inappropriately dressed for school and sent there without
adequate meals, court documents stated.


The agency increased its efforts to gain custody of the children when a
fire broke out June 16, 2004, at the home Robertson and Staley shared.


Robertson was awakened by Staley and led five of his children and a
neighbor's child out of the burning home, then re-entered twice to save
the last two of his children.


The agency alleged Robertson had been drinking that night and requested
a hearing to discuss the children's welfare. Robertson vehemently denied
the allegation.


At a July 13 hearing, Judge Tom Kelley issued a warrant for Heather
Staley's arrest because she did not appear in court that day with the
children, Robertson said. Staley was in Scranton, where they had just
moved, giving birth to her eighth child.


The couple contended there was nothing in any court documents that said
the entire family had to appear.


Despite their protests, their children were placed into foster care by a
court order signed by Judge Tom Kelley July 16, 2004.


Stateinvestigation


While their children were in foster care, Robertson and Staley lodged a
complaint with Gov. Ed Rendell's office.


Charles A. Tyrrell, then-acting bureau director of the Department of
Public Welfare's Office of Children, Youth and Families, responded to
the couple in a letter dated Nov. 5, 2004. The letter was provided to
the York Daily Record/Sunday News by the couple.


Tyrrell wrote that his office "is looking into your case and the issues
that you presented." He closed the letter by referring Robertson and
Staley to regional supervisor Marie James if they had any further concerns.


James, reached Wednesday, referred all media calls to Stacey Witalec,
spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of Welfare.


"I can't give you any specifics on any one case ... it's just a privacy
issue," Witalec said Wednesday.


Staley said last week they have not heard anything from the office on
the status of the investigation, other than it is ongoing.


A family again


On Feb. 14, 2005, Kelley signed a court order allowing Robertson and
Staley's children to be returned to them, a court document states.


"It was pretty much unbelievable," Staley said last week about her
children being returned to her. "I was expecting it, but there were no
guarantees."


The document states the couple had satisfied criteria set forth in a
family service plan.


Lackawanna County Children and Youth continued to monitor the family,
and, about seven months later, another court order closed the case entirely.


They moved to New York in 2005, buying a six-bedroom house. Staley gave
birth to their ninth child, Queen, about two years ago. Their children
have excelled in academics, music, art and sports, but they still bear
the "scars" of their foster care, Staley wrote.


"That part of our lives is not closed yet until I get some apologies for
what we went through," she said.


Now, 9


The Robertson children: Queen, 2; Anthony, 3; Vincent, 4; David, 5;
Violett, 6; Natalie, 9; Heather, 11; Nathanial, 12; Lillie, 13.


"Having child protective services In charge of reuniting
a family after they remove the children from their home, is like taking
the victims of a brutal rape, assault and kidnapping than placing "The
Rapist" In charge of the victims therapy."-- "V" Or Someone else.


I think you are in love with Dan greg. You demonstrate you can't
function unless he is publicly humiliating you. Is there a term for
this illness?

  #6  
Old August 21st 07, 07:06 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Greegor
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Posts: 4,243
Default Dan?

On Aug 20, 10:01 pm, firemonkey wrote:
On Aug 20, 8:03 pm, Greegor wrote:





Dan do you have anything to say about this one?


On Aug 19, 11:47 pm, fx wrote:


Family wishes for an apology
Couple still angry about when children were taken from them
By TED CZECH
Daily Record/Sunday News
Article Launched: 08/19/2007 02:06:07 AM EDT


http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_6661225


Aug 19, 2007 - Heather Staley would pace back and forth late at night
until she found herself on the floor, looking up at the ceiling.


When sleep would come for her common-law husband, Nathanial Robertson,
he would wake early in the morning, sweating, crying, screaming.


For seven months, starting July 2004, the couple's eight children were
in foster care.


To this day, they say they still do not know why the children were taken.


"The whole outcome was we were never accused of abuse or neglect,"
Staley said Tuesday.


Staley and Robertson's case received significant press coverage,
beginning with a fire that occurred in their Manchester Township home a
month before their children were taken.


But York County Children and Youth Services had been investigating them
for months. Robertson and Staley resisted caseworker visits, insisting
their children were well cared for.


"They didn't figure I would fight them," Robertson said. "My kids did
not deserve to be in foster care - at all."


Although Staley, 32, and Robertson, 42 - who now live in Endicott,
Advertisement
N.Y. - regained custody of their children in February 2005, they never
disclosed that publicly for fear of judicial repercussions.


Family investigated


York County Children and Youth Services began monitoring the family in
early 2004. A caseworker visited their home, saying the agency received
a report the children did not have beds and the house was without heat,
according to court documents provided by the couple.


Robertson said the agency didn't find anything wrong but continued to
make visits and tried to get Robertson and Staley to consent to an
agreement on the children's welfare, court documents state.


The four eldest children were said to be at-risk because they were
truant, inappropriately dressed for school and sent there without
adequate meals, court documents stated.


The agency increased its efforts to gain custody of the children when a
fire broke out June 16, 2004, at the home Robertson and Staley shared.


Robertson was awakened by Staley and led five of his children and a
neighbor's child out of the burning home, then re-entered twice to save
the last two of his children.


The agency alleged Robertson had been drinking that night and requested
a hearing to discuss the children's welfare. Robertson vehemently denied
the allegation.


At a July 13 hearing, Judge Tom Kelley issued a warrant for Heather
Staley's arrest because she did not appear in court that day with the
children, Robertson said. Staley was in Scranton, where they had just
moved, giving birth to her eighth child.


The couple contended there was nothing in any court documents that said
the entire family had to appear.


Despite their protests, their children were placed into foster care by a
court order signed by Judge Tom Kelley July 16, 2004.


Stateinvestigation


While their children were in foster care, Robertson and Staley lodged a
complaint with Gov. Ed Rendell's office.


Charles A. Tyrrell, then-acting bureau director of the Department of
Public Welfare's Office of Children, Youth and Families, responded to
the couple in a letter dated Nov. 5, 2004. The letter was provided to
the York Daily Record/Sunday News by the couple.


Tyrrell wrote that his office "is looking into your case and the issues
that you presented." He closed the letter by referring Robertson and
Staley to regional supervisor Marie James if they had any further concerns.


James, reached Wednesday, referred all media calls to Stacey Witalec,
spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of Welfare.


"I can't give you any specifics on any one case ... it's just a privacy
issue," Witalec said Wednesday.


Staley said last week they have not heard anything from the office on
the status of the investigation, other than it is ongoing.


A family again


On Feb. 14, 2005, Kelley signed a court order allowing Robertson and
Staley's children to be returned to them, a court document states.


"It was pretty much unbelievable," Staley said last week about her
children being returned to her. "I was expecting it, but there were no
guarantees."


The document states the couple had satisfied criteria set forth in a
family service plan.


Lackawanna County Children and Youth continued to monitor the family,
and, about seven months later, another court order closed the case entirely.


They moved to New York in 2005, buying a six-bedroom house. Staley gave
birth to their ninth child, Queen, about two years ago. Their children
have excelled in academics, music, art and sports, but they still bear
the "scars" of their foster care, Staley wrote.


"That part of our lives is not closed yet until I get some apologies for
what we went through," she said.


Now, 9


The Robertson children: Queen, 2; Anthony, 3; Vincent, 4; David, 5;
Violett, 6; Natalie, 9; Heather, 11; Nathanial, 12; Lillie, 13.


"Having child protective services In charge of reuniting
a family after they remove the children from their home, is like taking
the victims of a brutal rape, assault and kidnapping than placing "The
Rapist" In charge of the victims therapy."-- "V" Or Someone else.


I think you are in love with Dan greg. You demonstrate you can't
function unless he is publicly humiliating you. Is there a term for
this illness?


You keep trying to answer FOR Dan.
Why is that Kane?

I see you made no comment about the subject itself
but twice now have tried to ""intercede"" on Dan's behalf.

  #7  
Old August 21st 07, 02:28 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
firemonkey
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Posts: 548
Default greg?

On Aug 21, 1:06 am, Greegor wrote:
On Aug 20, 10:01 pm, firemonkey wrote:



On Aug 20, 8:03 pm, Greegor wrote:


Dan do you have anything to say about this one?


On Aug 19, 11:47 pm, fx wrote:


Family wishes for an apology
Couple still angry about when children were taken from them
By TED CZECH
Daily Record/Sunday News
Article Launched: 08/19/2007 02:06:07 AM EDT


http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_6661225


Aug 19, 2007 - Heather Staley would pace back and forth late at night
until she found herself on the floor, looking up at the ceiling.


When sleep would come for her common-law husband, Nathanial Robertson,
he would wake early in the morning, sweating, crying, screaming.


For seven months, starting July 2004, the couple's eight children were
in foster care.


To this day, they say they still do not know why the children were taken.


"The whole outcome was we were never accused of abuse or neglect,"
Staley said Tuesday.


Staley and Robertson's case received significant press coverage,
beginning with a fire that occurred in their Manchester Township home a
month before their children were taken.


But York County Children and Youth Services had been investigating them
for months. Robertson and Staley resisted caseworker visits, insisting
their children were well cared for.


"They didn't figure I would fight them," Robertson said. "My kids did
not deserve to be in foster care - at all."


Although Staley, 32, and Robertson, 42 - who now live in Endicott,
Advertisement
N.Y. - regained custody of their children in February 2005, they never
disclosed that publicly for fear of judicial repercussions.


Family investigated


York County Children and Youth Services began monitoring the family in
early 2004. A caseworker visited their home, saying the agency received
a report the children did not have beds and the house was without heat,
according to court documents provided by the couple.


Robertson said the agency didn't find anything wrong but continued to
make visits and tried to get Robertson and Staley to consent to an
agreement on the children's welfare, court documents state.


The four eldest children were said to be at-risk because they were
truant, inappropriately dressed for school and sent there without
adequate meals, court documents stated.


The agency increased its efforts to gain custody of the children when a
fire broke out June 16, 2004, at the home Robertson and Staley shared.


Robertson was awakened by Staley and led five of his children and a
neighbor's child out of the burning home, then re-entered twice to save
the last two of his children.


The agency alleged Robertson had been drinking that night and requested
a hearing to discuss the children's welfare. Robertson vehemently denied
the allegation.


At a July 13 hearing, Judge Tom Kelley issued a warrant for Heather
Staley's arrest because she did not appear in court that day with the
children, Robertson said. Staley was in Scranton, where they had just
moved, giving birth to her eighth child.


The couple contended there was nothing in any court documents that said
the entire family had to appear.


Despite their protests, their children were placed into foster care by a
court order signed by Judge Tom Kelley July 16, 2004.


Stateinvestigation


While their children were in foster care, Robertson and Staley lodged a
complaint with Gov. Ed Rendell's office.


Charles A. Tyrrell, then-acting bureau director of the Department of
Public Welfare's Office of Children, Youth and Families, responded to
the couple in a letter dated Nov. 5, 2004. The letter was provided to
the York Daily Record/Sunday News by the couple.


Tyrrell wrote that his office "is looking into your case and the issues
that you presented." He closed the letter by referring Robertson and
Staley to regional supervisor Marie James if they had any further concerns.


James, reached Wednesday, referred all media calls to Stacey Witalec,
spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of Welfare.


"I can't give you any specifics on any one case ... it's just a privacy
issue," Witalec said Wednesday.


Staley said last week they have not heard anything from the office on
the status of the investigation, other than it is ongoing.


A family again


On Feb. 14, 2005, Kelley signed a court order allowing Robertson and
Staley's children to be returned to them, a court document states.


"It was pretty much unbelievable," Staley said last week about her
children being returned to her. "I was expecting it, but there were no
guarantees."


The document states the couple had satisfied criteria set forth in a
family service plan.


Lackawanna County Children and Youth continued to monitor the family,
and, about seven months later, another court order closed the case entirely.


They moved to New York in 2005, buying a six-bedroom house. Staley gave
birth to their ninth child, Queen, about two years ago. Their children
have excelled in academics, music, art and sports, but they still bear
the "scars" of their foster care, Staley wrote.


"That part of our lives is not closed yet until I get some apologies for
what we went through," she said.


Now, 9


The Robertson children: Queen, 2; Anthony, 3; Vincent, 4; David, 5;
Violett, 6; Natalie, 9; Heather, 11; Nathanial, 12; Lillie, 13.


"Having child protective services In charge of reuniting
a family after they remove the children from their home, is like taking
the victims of a brutal rape, assault and kidnapping than placing "The
Rapist" In charge of the victims therapy."-- "V" Or Someone else.


I think you are in love with Dan greg. You demonstrate you can't
function unless he is publicly humiliating you. Is there a term for
this illness?


You keep trying to answer FOR Dan.
Why is that Kane?

I see you made no comment about the subject itself
but twice now have tried to ""intercede"" on Dan's behalf.


You were able to figure that out on your own? Or did kennie have to
diagram it for you?

You destroyed this news group, you broke all the rule and brought
chaos here, now you want to be taken seriously?
Are you out of your mind? You turned this group into a joke, you are a
joke, now live with it.

  #8  
Old August 21st 07, 02:35 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Greegor
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,243
Default Dan?

On Aug 21, 8:28 am, firemonkey wrote:
On Aug 21, 1:06 am, Greegor wrote:





On Aug 20, 10:01 pm, firemonkey wrote:


On Aug 20, 8:03 pm, Greegor wrote:


Dan do you have anything to say about this one?


On Aug 19, 11:47 pm, fx wrote:


Family wishes for an apology
Couple still angry about when children were taken from them
By TED CZECH
Daily Record/Sunday News
Article Launched: 08/19/2007 02:06:07 AM EDT


http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_6661225


Aug 19, 2007 - Heather Staley would pace back and forth late at night
until she found herself on the floor, looking up at the ceiling.


When sleep would come for her common-law husband, Nathanial Robertson,
he would wake early in the morning, sweating, crying, screaming.


For seven months, starting July 2004, the couple's eight children were
in foster care.


To this day, they say they still do not know why the children were taken.


"The whole outcome was we were never accused of abuse or neglect,"
Staley said Tuesday.


Staley and Robertson's case received significant press coverage,
beginning with a fire that occurred in their Manchester Township home a
month before their children were taken.


But York County Children and Youth Services had been investigating them
for months. Robertson and Staley resisted caseworker visits, insisting
their children were well cared for.


"They didn't figure I would fight them," Robertson said. "My kids did
not deserve to be in foster care - at all."


Although Staley, 32, and Robertson, 42 - who now live in Endicott,
Advertisement
N.Y. - regained custody of their children in February 2005, they never
disclosed that publicly for fear of judicial repercussions.


Family investigated


York County Children and Youth Services began monitoring the family in
early 2004. A caseworker visited their home, saying the agency received
a report the children did not have beds and the house was without heat,
according to court documents provided by the couple.


Robertson said the agency didn't find anything wrong but continued to
make visits and tried to get Robertson and Staley to consent to an
agreement on the children's welfare, court documents state.


The four eldest children were said to be at-risk because they were
truant, inappropriately dressed for school and sent there without
adequate meals, court documents stated.


The agency increased its efforts to gain custody of the children when a
fire broke out June 16, 2004, at the home Robertson and Staley shared.


Robertson was awakened by Staley and led five of his children and a
neighbor's child out of the burning home, then re-entered twice to save
the last two of his children.


The agency alleged Robertson had been drinking that night and requested
a hearing to discuss the children's welfare. Robertson vehemently denied
the allegation.


At a July 13 hearing, Judge Tom Kelley issued a warrant for Heather
Staley's arrest because she did not appear in court that day with the
children, Robertson said. Staley was in Scranton, where they had just
moved, giving birth to her eighth child.


The couple contended there was nothing in any court documents that said
the entire family had to appear.


Despite their protests, their children were placed into foster care by a
court order signed by Judge Tom Kelley July 16, 2004.


Stateinvestigation


While their children were in foster care, Robertson and Staley lodged a
complaint with Gov. Ed Rendell's office.


Charles A. Tyrrell, then-acting bureau director of the Department of
Public Welfare's Office of Children, Youth and Families, responded to
the couple in a letter dated Nov. 5, 2004. The letter was provided to
the York Daily Record/Sunday News by the couple.


Tyrrell wrote that his office "is looking into your case and the issues
that you presented." He closed the letter by referring Robertson and
Staley to regional supervisor Marie James if they had any further concerns.


James, reached Wednesday, referred all media calls to Stacey Witalec,
spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of Welfare.


"I can't give you any specifics on any one case ... it's just a privacy
issue," Witalec said Wednesday.


Staley said last week they have not heard anything from the office on
the status of the investigation, other than it is ongoing.


A family again


On Feb. 14, 2005, Kelley signed a court order allowing Robertson and
Staley's children to be returned to them, a court document states.


"It was pretty much unbelievable," Staley said last week about her
children being returned to her. "I was expecting it, but there were no
guarantees."


The document states the couple had satisfied criteria set forth in a
family service plan.


Lackawanna County Children and Youth continued to monitor the family,
and, about seven months later, another court order closed the case entirely.


They moved to New York in 2005, buying a six-bedroom house. Staley gave
birth to their ninth child, Queen, about two years ago. Their children
have excelled in academics, music, art and sports, but they still bear
the "scars" of their foster care, Staley wrote.


"That part of our lives is not closed yet until I get some apologies for
what we went through," she said.


Now, 9


The Robertson children: Queen, 2; Anthony, 3; Vincent, 4; David, 5;
Violett, 6; Natalie, 9; Heather, 11; Nathanial, 12; Lillie, 13.


"Having child protective services In charge of reuniting
a family after they remove the children from their home, is like taking
the victims of a brutal rape, assault and kidnapping than placing "The
Rapist" In charge of the victims therapy."-- "V" Or Someone else.


I think you are in love with Dan greg. You demonstrate you can't
function unless he is publicly humiliating you. Is there a term for
this illness?


You keep trying to answer FOR Dan.
Why is that Kane?


I see you made no comment about the subject itself
but twice now have tried to ""intercede"" on Dan's behalf.


You were able to figure that out on your own? Or did kennie have to
diagram it for you?

You destroyed this news group, you broke all the rule and brought
chaos here, now you want to be taken seriously?
Are you out of your mind? You turned this group into a joke, you are a
joke, now live with it.


Is Dan hiding behind your skirt?

  #9  
Old August 21st 07, 02:40 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Dan Sullivan
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Posts: 1,687
Default Dan?

On Aug 21, 9:35 am, Greegor wrote:
On Aug 21, 8:28 am, firemonkey wrote:





On Aug 21, 1:06 am, Greegor wrote:


On Aug 20, 10:01 pm, firemonkey wrote:


On Aug 20, 8:03 pm, Greegor wrote:


Dan do you have anything to say about this one?


On Aug 19, 11:47 pm, fx wrote:


Family wishes for an apology
Couple still angry about when children were taken from them
By TED CZECH
Daily Record/Sunday News
Article Launched: 08/19/2007 02:06:07 AM EDT


http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_6661225


Aug 19, 2007 - Heather Staley would pace back and forth late at night
until she found herself on the floor, looking up at the ceiling.


When sleep would come for her common-law husband, Nathanial Robertson,
he would wake early in the morning, sweating, crying, screaming.


For seven months, starting July 2004, the couple's eight children were
in foster care.


To this day, they say they still do not know why the children were taken.


"The whole outcome was we were never accused of abuse or neglect,"
Staley said Tuesday.


Staley and Robertson's case received significant press coverage,
beginning with a fire that occurred in their Manchester Township home a
month before their children were taken.


But York County Children and Youth Services had been investigating them
for months. Robertson and Staley resisted caseworker visits, insisting
their children were well cared for.


"They didn't figure I would fight them," Robertson said. "My kids did
not deserve to be in foster care - at all."


Although Staley, 32, and Robertson, 42 - who now live in Endicott,
Advertisement
N.Y. - regained custody of their children in February 2005, they never
disclosed that publicly for fear of judicial repercussions.


Family investigated


York County Children and Youth Services began monitoring the family in
early 2004. A caseworker visited their home, saying the agency received
a report the children did not have beds and the house was without heat,
according to court documents provided by the couple.


Robertson said the agency didn't find anything wrong but continued to
make visits and tried to get Robertson and Staley to consent to an
agreement on the children's welfare, court documents state.


The four eldest children were said to be at-risk because they were
truant, inappropriately dressed for school and sent there without
adequate meals, court documents stated.


The agency increased its efforts to gain custody of the children when a
fire broke out June 16, 2004, at the home Robertson and Staley shared.


Robertson was awakened by Staley and led five of his children and a
neighbor's child out of the burning home, then re-entered twice to save
the last two of his children.


The agency alleged Robertson had been drinking that night and requested
a hearing to discuss the children's welfare. Robertson vehemently denied
the allegation.


At a July 13 hearing, Judge Tom Kelley issued a warrant for Heather
Staley's arrest because she did not appear in court that day with the
children, Robertson said. Staley was in Scranton, where they had just
moved, giving birth to her eighth child.


The couple contended there was nothing in any court documents that said
the entire family had to appear.


Despite their protests, their children were placed into foster care by a
court order signed by Judge Tom Kelley July 16, 2004.


Stateinvestigation


While their children were in foster care, Robertson and Staley lodged a
complaint with Gov. Ed Rendell's office.


Charles A. Tyrrell, then-acting bureau director of the Department of
Public Welfare's Office of Children, Youth and Families, responded to
the couple in a letter dated Nov. 5, 2004. The letter was provided to
the York Daily Record/Sunday News by the couple.


Tyrrell wrote that his office "is looking into your case and the issues
that you presented." He closed the letter by referring Robertson and
Staley to regional supervisor Marie James if they had any further concerns.


James, reached Wednesday, referred all media calls to Stacey Witalec,
spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of Welfare.


"I can't give you any specifics on any one case ... it's just a privacy
issue," Witalec said Wednesday.


Staley said last week they have not heard anything from the office on
the status of the investigation, other than it is ongoing.


A family again


On Feb. 14, 2005, Kelley signed a court order allowing Robertson and
Staley's children to be returned to them, a court document states.


"It was pretty much unbelievable," Staley said last week about her
children being returned to her. "I was expecting it, but there were no
guarantees."


The document states the couple had satisfied criteria set forth in a
family service plan.


Lackawanna County Children and Youth continued to monitor the family,
and, about seven months later, another court order closed the case entirely.


They moved to New York in 2005, buying a six-bedroom house. Staley gave
birth to their ninth child, Queen, about two years ago. Their children
have excelled in academics, music, art and sports, but they still bear
the "scars" of their foster care, Staley wrote.


"That part of our lives is not closed yet until I get some apologies for
what we went through," she said.


Now, 9


The Robertson children: Queen, 2; Anthony, 3; Vincent, 4; David, 5;
Violett, 6; Natalie, 9; Heather, 11; Nathanial, 12; Lillie, 13.


"Having child protective services In charge of reuniting
a family after they remove the children from their home, is like taking
the victims of a brutal rape, assault and kidnapping than placing "The
Rapist" In charge of the victims therapy."-- "V" Or Someone else.


I think you are in love with Dan greg. You demonstrate you can't
function unless he is publicly humiliating you. Is there a term for
this illness?


You keep trying to answer FOR Dan.
Why is that Kane?


I see you made no comment about the subject itself
but twice now have tried to ""intercede"" on Dan's behalf.


You were able to figure that out on your own? Or did kennie have to
diagram it for you?


You destroyed this news group, you broke all the rule and brought
chaos here, now you want to be taken seriously?
Are you out of your mind? You turned this group into a joke, you are a
joke, now live with it.


Is Dan hiding behind your skirt?


I'm right here, Greg.

What's your problem now?


  #10  
Old August 21st 07, 03:36 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Greegor
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,243
Default Dan?

On Aug 21, 8:40 am, Dan Sullivan wrote:
On Aug 21, 9:35 am, Greegor wrote:





On Aug 21, 8:28 am, firemonkey wrote:


On Aug 21, 1:06 am, Greegor wrote:


On Aug 20, 10:01 pm, firemonkey wrote:


On Aug 20, 8:03 pm, Greegor wrote:


Dan do you have anything to say about this one?


On Aug 19, 11:47 pm, fx wrote:


Family wishes for an apology
Couple still angry about when children were taken from them
By TED CZECH
Daily Record/Sunday News
Article Launched: 08/19/2007 02:06:07 AM EDT


http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_6661225


Aug 19, 2007 - Heather Staley would pace back and forth late at night
until she found herself on the floor, looking up at the ceiling.


When sleep would come for her common-law husband, Nathanial Robertson,
he would wake early in the morning, sweating, crying, screaming.


For seven months, starting July 2004, the couple's eight children were
in foster care.


To this day, they say they still do not know why the children were taken.


"The whole outcome was we were never accused of abuse or neglect,"
Staley said Tuesday.


Staley and Robertson's case received significant press coverage,
beginning with a fire that occurred in their Manchester Township home a
month before their children were taken.


But York County Children and Youth Services had been investigating them
for months. Robertson and Staley resisted caseworker visits, insisting
their children were well cared for.


"They didn't figure I would fight them," Robertson said. "My kids did
not deserve to be in foster care - at all."


Although Staley, 32, and Robertson, 42 - who now live in Endicott,
Advertisement
N.Y. - regained custody of their children in February 2005, they never
disclosed that publicly for fear of judicial repercussions.


Family investigated


York County Children and Youth Services began monitoring the family in
early 2004. A caseworker visited their home, saying the agency received
a report the children did not have beds and the house was without heat,
according to court documents provided by the couple.


Robertson said the agency didn't find anything wrong but continued to
make visits and tried to get Robertson and Staley to consent to an
agreement on the children's welfare, court documents state.


The four eldest children were said to be at-risk because they were
truant, inappropriately dressed for school and sent there without
adequate meals, court documents stated.


The agency increased its efforts to gain custody of the children when a
fire broke out June 16, 2004, at the home Robertson and Staley shared.


Robertson was awakened by Staley and led five of his children and a
neighbor's child out of the burning home, then re-entered twice to save
the last two of his children.


The agency alleged Robertson had been drinking that night and requested
a hearing to discuss the children's welfare. Robertson vehemently denied
the allegation.


At a July 13 hearing, Judge Tom Kelley issued a warrant for Heather
Staley's arrest because she did not appear in court that day with the
children, Robertson said. Staley was in Scranton, where they had just
moved, giving birth to her eighth child.


The couple contended there was nothing in any court documents that said
the entire family had to appear.


Despite their protests, their children were placed into foster care by a
court order signed by Judge Tom Kelley July 16, 2004.


Stateinvestigation


While their children were in foster care, Robertson and Staley lodged a
complaint with Gov. Ed Rendell's office.


Charles A. Tyrrell, then-acting bureau director of the Department of
Public Welfare's Office of Children, Youth and Families, responded to
the couple in a letter dated Nov. 5, 2004. The letter was provided to
the York Daily Record/Sunday News by the couple.


Tyrrell wrote that his office "is looking into your case and the issues
that you presented." He closed the letter by referring Robertson and
Staley to regional supervisor Marie James if they had any further concerns.


James, reached Wednesday, referred all media calls to Stacey Witalec,
spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of Welfare.


"I can't give you any specifics on any one case ... it's just a privacy
issue," Witalec said Wednesday.


Staley said last week they have not heard anything from the office on
the status of the investigation, other than it is ongoing.


A family again


On Feb. 14, 2005, Kelley signed a court order allowing Robertson and
Staley's children to be returned to them, a court document states.


"It was pretty much unbelievable," Staley said last week about her
children being returned to her. "I was expecting it, but there were no
guarantees."


The document states the couple had satisfied criteria set forth in a
family service plan.


Lackawanna County Children and Youth continued to monitor the family,
and, about seven months later, another court order closed the case entirely.


They moved to New York in 2005, buying a six-bedroom house. Staley gave
birth to their ninth child, Queen, about two years ago. Their children
have excelled in academics, music, art and sports, but they still bear
the "scars" of their foster care, Staley wrote.


"That part of our lives is not closed yet until I get some apologies for
what we went through," she said.


Now, 9


The Robertson children: Queen, 2; Anthony, 3; Vincent, 4; David, 5;
Violett, 6; Natalie, 9; Heather, 11; Nathanial, 12; Lillie, 13.


"Having child protective services In charge of reuniting
a family after they remove the children from their home, is like taking
the victims of a brutal rape, assault and kidnapping than placing "The
Rapist" In charge of the victims therapy."-- "V" Or Someone else.


I think you are in love with Dan greg. You demonstrate you can't
function unless he is publicly humiliating you. Is there a term for
this illness?


You keep trying to answer FOR Dan.
Why is that Kane?


I see you made no comment about the subject itself
but twice now have tried to ""intercede"" on Dan's behalf.


You were able to figure that out on your own? Or did kennie have to
diagram it for you?


You destroyed this news group, you broke all the rule and brought
chaos here, now you want to be taken seriously?
Are you out of your mind? You turned this group into a joke, you are a
joke, now live with it.


G Is Dan hiding behind your skirt?

DS I'm right here, Greg.
DS What's your problem now?

Please comment on this news story Dan!

http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_6661225

 




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