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Pediatricians enlisted to combat childhood obesity
"JG" wrote
Pediatricians enlisted to combat childhood obesity Pediatricians can urge parents to limit children's television watching to two hours a day, encourage exercise, and promote dietary alternatives to high-fat snacks and soft drinks at home and at school. I think the peds are a little mixed up about whether fat in foods is a problem. Soft drinks are very low-fat snacks. In many cases, one or both parents may be obese, and pediatricians should consider genetic factors that can predispose children to gaining excessive amounts of weight. Consider it how? I don't think that such genetic factors have even been identified. What is the ped going to say -- "You're too fat. If your husband is also a fatso, then you shouldn't have any more kids because they'll probably become obese also."?? Just telling women to breastfeed not enough: study What's next -- breastfeeding mandates? |
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Pediatricians enlisted to combat childhood obesity
"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message
t... "JG" wrote In many cases, one or both parents may be obese, and pediatricians should consider genetic factors that can predispose children to gaining excessive amounts of weight. Consider it how? I don't think that such genetic factors have even been identified. What is the ped going to say -- "You're too fat. If your husband is also a fatso, then you shouldn't have any more kids because they'll probably become obese also."?? I hope anyone to whom such a comment was made would shoot back, "You're an arrogant fill in your favorite profane epithet. If your spouse is also..." Just telling women to breastfeed not enough: study What's next -- breastfeeding mandates? Hehehe. Maybe some peds just want to check out the, er, mammary glands: "Women need to be coached at length on how..." |
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Pediatricians enlisted to combat childhood obesity
"JG" wrote
I hope anyone to whom such a comment was made would shoot back, "You're an arrogant fill in your favorite profane epithet. If your spouse is also..." It could be worse than getting a condescending lecture about fat kids. Here in California, the hospitals do stomach-shrinking surgery on fat kids. Sometimes even "irreversible stomach stapling". http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercuryne...al/6455652.htm |
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Pediatricians enlisted to combat childhood obesity
Obesity is a well-documented and growing problem in the US and other
countries. Obesity leads to several well-documented problems, like premature heart-attacks, strokes, arthritis, diabetes as well as to higher health-care costs. Will you please provide some better ideas on how to deal with this problem? Children benefit from breastfeeding. Breast-fed children has fewer colds, fewer allergies and fewer ear infections. Breast feeding also increases mother-child bonding. What do you recommend pediatricians and other docs do? Aren't pediatricians paid partly to offer advice? No one is forcing anyone to breast-feed or do anything she doesn't want to. Jeff |
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Pediatricians enlisted to combat childhood obesity
"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message et... "JG" wrote I hope anyone to whom such a comment was made would shoot back, "You're an arrogant fill in your favorite profane epithet. If your spouse is also..." It could be worse than getting a condescending lecture about fat kids. Here in California, the hospitals do stomach-shrinking surgery on fat kids. Sometimes even "irreversible stomach stapling". http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercuryne...al/6455652.htm Incorrect. The hospitals will do surgery on OBESE kids. Not just fat kids. Kids who are so fat that their weight is a major health problem. So what are you suggesting? That hospitals are to tell parents of obese kids that the parents are not allowed to choose surgery if that is what the parents want? Jeff |
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Pediatricians enlisted to combat childhood obesity
Roger Schlafly wrote:
I think the peds are a little mixed up about whether fat in foods is a problem. Soft drinks are very low-fat snacks. Apparently, there is a relationship between amount of juice/soft drink consumption and obesity. |
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Pediatricians enlisted to combat childhood obesity
On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 20:33:00 GMT, "Roger Schlafly"
wrote: "JG" wrote Pediatricians enlisted to combat childhood obesity Pediatricians can urge parents to limit children's television watching to two hours a day, encourage exercise, and promote dietary alternatives to high-fat snacks and soft drinks at home and at school. I think the peds are a little mixed up about whether fat in foods is a problem. Soft drinks are very low-fat snacks. You think wrong, moron. Perhaps if you actually read the Policy Statement you'd see that the Committee on Nutrition refers to soft drinks as among the "energy-dense, nutrient-poor food products." Editorial errors or poor writing by the Reuters Health staff do not reflect on the pediatricians' statement, which is well written and sound. When you read a newspaper headlines about the "flesh eating virus," do you proclaim that microbiologists are "a little mixed up?" Besides, Reuters probably meant "[high-fat snacks] and [soft drinks]." In many cases, one or both parents may be obese, and pediatricians should consider genetic factors that can predispose children to gaining excessive amounts of weight. Consider it how? I don't think that such genetic factors have even been identified. What is the ped going to say -- "You're too fat. If your husband is also a fatso, then you shouldn't have any more kids because they'll probably become obese also."?? Here we go again. You idiots (Roger and JG, specifically) ridicule the Policy Statement when you don't even understand it (and clearly haven't even read it), then invent potential patient encounters based on your misunderstanding, and even get angry about them when they're all part of your ridiculous fantasies. You can keep jacking each other off with what you think this is all about but you just look foolish to the rest of us. Roger, as usual, probably thinks he looks smart by "questioning" statements made by pediatricians when in fact his questions stem from pure ignorance. He has no medical training and does not practice pediatrics, yet he questions a statement made by pediatricians addressed to other pediatricians about how to consider genetic factors in obesity, asking how to do so. Roger, perhaps you don't know how to, not because, as you "think" that no such factors have been identified, but perhaps it's because (a) you're not a pediatrician, and/or (b) you're an idiot. Here's an excerpt from the Policy Statement (ask me for help with the big words, Roger): Genetic conditions known to be associated with propensity for obesity include Prader-Willi syndrome, Bardet-Biedl syndrome, and Cohen syndrome. In these conditions, early diagnosis allows collaboration with subspecialists, such as geneticists, endocrinologists, behavioralists, and nutritionists, to optimize growth and development while promoting healthy eating and activity patterns from a young age. For example, data suggest that growth hormone may improve some of the signs of Prader-Willi syndrome.49–51 It has long been recognized that obesity "runs in families"—high birth weight, maternal diabetes, and obesity in family members all are factors—but there are likely to be multiple genes and a strong interaction between genetics and environment that influence the degree of adiposity.47,48,52,53 For young children, if 1 parent is obese, the odds ratio is approximately 3 for obesity in adulthood, but if both parents are obese, the odds ratio increases to more than 10. Before 3 years of age, parental obesity is a stronger predictor of obesity in adulthood than the child’s weight status.54 Such observations have important implications for recognition of risk and routine anticipatory guidance that is directed toward healthy eating and activity patterns in families. Example: If both parents are clearly over 300 lbs., but are pleased that little Johnny isn't fat yet at age 3, and are happy to feed him garbage because they think he won't be, they need more guidance. Conversely, if two skinny parents bring in a slender 3-year-old child who still drinks whole milk, I don't think the child needs to switch to 2% milk. You see, Roger, I am considering genetic factors and tailoring my anticipatory guidance appropriately. I am glad to see this policy statement, as I am the only pediatrician I know who plots every patient's BMI and shows it to the family. Our questionnaire has a question, "Are you concerned about your child's weight or eating habits?" Usually when I plot the BMI and it comes out high, I look over at that question and it's invariably marked "Yes." What is particularly telling is that when the BMI is climbing before age 5 (it usually decreases and hits its nadir after age 5), this is a strong indicator of adult obesity, even if the BMI is still "normal." I will show parents the growth chart and indicate how the BMI usually goes given the pattern so far, and for many it is an eye-opener. Most obese parents in my practice are interested in keeping their kids from being obese and are not, contrary to JG's belief, insulted that I would talk about it. It would be ridiculous for me to start talking to the parents about it only after they become obese, as it is far, far more difficult to lose weight than to prevent excess weight gain in the first place. By the way, JG, I had a dad who was new to my practice today ask me why I didn't remind his son to wear a bicycle helmet at the end of his check-up today. I guess I slipped a little in my insulting routine! I'll have to be more careful! PF |
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Pediatricians enlisted to combat childhood obesity
"PF Riley" wrote
It has long been recognized that obesity "runs in families"-high birth weight, maternal diabetes, and obesity in family members all are factors-but there are likely to be multiple genes and a strong ... to 2% milk. You see, Roger, I am considering genetic factors and tailoring my anticipatory guidance appropriately. From your previous messages on the subject, I would have guessed that you subscribe to the environmental theory -- that fat parents teach lousy eating habit to kids, and that is what makes the kids fat. By the way, JG, I had a dad who was new to my practice today ask me why I didn't remind his son to wear a bicycle helmet at the end of his check-up today. I guess I slipped a little in my insulting routine! I'll have to be more careful! Maybe he was being sarcastic. When my dentist fails to give me a lecture on flossing my teeth, I wonder if something is wrong with him. |
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Pediatricians enlisted to combat childhood obesity
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 06:08:32 GMT, "Roger Schlafly"
wrote: "PF Riley" wrote It has long been recognized that obesity "runs in families"-high birth weight, maternal diabetes, and obesity in family members all are factors-but there are likely to be multiple genes and a strong ... to 2% milk. You see, Roger, I am considering genetic factors and tailoring my anticipatory guidance appropriately. From your previous messages on the subject, I would have guessed that you subscribe to the environmental theory -- that fat parents teach lousy eating habit to kids, and that is what makes the kids fat. It is usually a combination of both environmental and genetic factors. PF |
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Pediatricians enlisted to combat childhood obesity
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