Polio vaccine genocide in Uganda

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Jeff Utz wrote:

The fact that vaccines have almost eliminated polio and completely
eliminated disease from smallpox is well-known. See the WHO documents about
smallpox. The decrease in polio is described in recent issues of the
Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report from the CDC.

There is no evidence that giving vaccines to kids who are malnourished is
harmful. In fact, kids who are malnourished are going to be the ones who are
going to be sickest from the illness that the vaccines prevent.

How true, how true. In malnourished populations, measles can have a
10% mortality rate.

Malnourishment isn't even required. Without modern
supportive care and antibiotics, it had nearly that
high a case mortality in the United States prior to
the 1930s. (Oxygen made a big difference, then
antibiotics.)

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Carole wrote:

What finally made me lean towards anti-vaccination is partly because
the conventional system flogs it so relentlessly.

As society is fighting against murderers heftily, you of course would
declare murder a must to have.

How insane can people behave!?

I've been following the vaccination argument for quite a while and
sitting on the fence, not knowing which way to jump.
What finally made me lean towards anti-vaccination is partly because
the conventional system flogs it so relentlessly. If vaccination did
actually improve a person's health it follows that conventional
medicine has actually got something right.

Why would they have just ONE THING right and the rest wrong? It
doesn't add up.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/allopathy.htm

"Carole" wrote in message news:
I've been following the vaccination argument for quite a while and
sitting on the fence, not knowing which way to jump.
What finally made me lean towards anti-vaccination is partly because
the conventional system flogs it so relentlessly. If vaccination did
actually improve a person's health it follows that conventional
medicine has actually got something right.
Why would they have just ONE THING right and the rest wrong? It
doesn't add up.

Conventional medicine only got ONE thing right? Carole, what would you do
if you broke your leg? Sliced your scalp open? Were bitten by a rabid
animal or a poisonous snake?
moo

"Happy Dog" wrote in message
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"Carole" wrote in message news:
I've been following the vaccination argument for quite a while and
sitting on the fence, not knowing which way to jump.
What finally made me lean towards anti-vaccination is partly because
the conventional system flogs it so relentlessly. If vaccination did
actually improve a person's health it follows that conventional
medicine has actually got something right.
Why would they have just ONE THING right and the rest wrong? It
doesn't add up.

Conventional medicine only got ONE thing right? Carole, what would you do
if you broke your leg? Sliced your scalp open? Were bitten by a rabid
animal or a poisonous snake?
moo

Or came down with a delusional disorder? ;o)

Earle

Once again I will say it but there isn't much hope for people that
closed-minded and blinded by the masses.

You, sir, are brainwashed. Ther is more proof that vaccines have not cured
polio. Europe never had a vacciination programme and how many polio cases do
you see there?

Open your mind. Leave the pharm giants behind or it that the problem? ...a
vested interest?

After the vaccine for polio was created , why did they have to redefine what
having polio meant? Why did the polio statistics only go down after the
redefinition?

Why did Salk admit his vaccine caused two thirds of the deaths from polio?

"Jeff Utz" wrote in message
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"Gymmie Bob" wrote in message
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You are very brainwashed sir. I would like to know what you base your
assumptions on.


The fact that vaccines have almost eliminated polio and completely
eliminated disease from smallpox is well-known. See the WHO documents
about
smallpox. The decrease in polio is described in recent issues of the
Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report from the CDC.

There is no evidence that giving vaccines to kids who are malnourished is
harmful. In fact, kids who are malnourished are going to be the ones who
are
going to be sickest from the illness that the vaccines prevent.

Jeff

(...)

"Carole" wrote in message
m...
I've been following the vaccination argument for quite a while and
sitting on the fence, not knowing which way to jump.
What finally made me lean towards anti-vaccination is partly because
the conventional system flogs it so relentlessly.

Vaccination prevents disease. How many cases of smallpox and polio have been
reported in the US in the last year? None. The rate of other preventable
diseases, like chicken pox (which kills about 50 people a year in the US),
invasive pneumococcal disease, Hib menigitis, measles, which has a fatality
rate of about 1 in 1000, and rubella, which used to be a leading cause of
birth defects, are all markedly down, as is the cost of these illness in
terms of sickness and death.

If vaccination did
actually improve a person's health it follows that conventional
medicine has actually got something right.

Yeah, it does. Conventional medicine saves about 1/2 of all people with
cancer and about 70-75% of kids with cancer. It does wonders in saving lives
of people who have had heart attacks or have been injured. It is able to
replace diseased organs. It can prevent damage when blood supply is cut off
from the brain (stroke).

Why would they have just ONE THING right and the rest wrong? It
doesn't add up.

Medicine is not perfect. Way too many people die from cancer (about 1/2).
Every treatment has side effects. People wait too long in doctors' offices.
Too many people in the US don't have insurance.

But it is better than any alternative medicine, because it is based on
science and has been shown to work.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/allopathy.htm

The website is incorrect. I support chelation which has not been shown to
help anything, except acute heavy metal poisoning. In addition, the
references include whale.to, the biggest medical joke site in the world (the
author of the whale to site clearly has no clue about medicine, vaccines or
science).

The only proof these website offer to support their opinion that their form
of treatment is of any medical value is tenacity: If they say it enough,
they must be right.

Jeff

Where is the proof that vaccines prvent diseases? That's a bunch of crap and
you saying it repeatedlyt doesn't make it true.

Most of the stuff helping people from the medical society is old news from
the alternative medicine world.

I remember doctors telling people that dairy was necesary in their diets and
those fanatics shouldn't be listenned to because of no scientific proof.

I remember scientists laughing at the "earth people" and hippies when they
talk about the CFCs punching holes in the atmosphere.

Who did you think started the fear of vaccines? Alternative medicine people
based on the medical society's testing and reports that the chem/cut
profession doesn't pay attention to until half their patients are gone. Then
they decide to go with the crowd somewhat for fear of losing respect from
their patients.

Vaccines have been exposed a an outright lie by many people, professional
medical people, people from their own profession. Most chem/cut doctors only
preach through ignorance from the literature and free samples they are given
by guess who.


"Jeff Utz" wrote in message
...

Vaccination prevents disease. How many cases of smallpox and polio have
been
reported in the US in the last year? None. The rate of other preventable
diseases, like chicken pox (which kills about 50 people a year in the US),
invasive pneumococcal disease, Hib menigitis, measles, which has a
fatality
rate of about 1 in 1000, and rubella, which used to be a leading cause of
birth defects, are all markedly down, as is the cost of these illness in
terms of sickness and death.

The website is incorrect. I support chelation which has not been shown to
help anything, except acute heavy metal poisoning. In addition, the
references include whale.to, the biggest medical joke site in the world
(the
author of the whale to site clearly has no clue about medicine, vaccines
or
science).

The only proof these website offer to support their opinion that their
form
of treatment is of any medical value is tenacity: If they say it enough,
they must be right.

Jeff

"Gymmie Bob" wrote in message
...
Once again I will say it but there isn't much hope for people that
closed-minded and blinded by the masses.

You, sir, are brainwashed. Ther is more proof that vaccines have not cured
polio. Europe never had a vacciination programme and how many polio cases
do
you see there?

Really? Please support your contentiont that there was no vaccination
programs in Europe.

Open your mind. Leave the pharm giants behind or it that the problem? ...a
vested interest?

I don't have any vested interests in pharmaceutical companies. I get no
money from them in any way.

After the vaccine for polio was created , why did they have to redefine
what
having polio meant?

Because a lot of illnesses that were not caused by the polio virus were
included in the statistics. So they wanted to make sure that they got every
case of illness caused by the virus, but not other illnesses. Remember, it
was not until the 50s that we had microscoped that can see the virus. So
this reflects an effort to do a better job at seperating illness caused by
this virus from other illnesses as well as a better understanding of hte
disease.

Why did the polio statistics only go down after the
redefinition?

Because a lot illnesses that were not polio were included in the definition.

Why did Salk admit his vaccine caused two thirds of the deaths from polio?

First I heard of it. Reference please.

Jeff

"Jeff Utz" wrote in message
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"Gymmie Bob" wrote in message
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You are very brainwashed sir. I would like to know what you base your
assumptions on.


The fact that vaccines have almost eliminated polio and completely
eliminated disease from smallpox is well-known. See the WHO documents
about
smallpox. The decrease in polio is described in recent issues of the
Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report from the CDC.

There is no evidence that giving vaccines to kids who are malnourished
is
harmful. In fact, kids who are malnourished are going to be the ones who
are
going to be sickest from the illness that the vaccines prevent.

Jeff

(...)

"Gymmie Bob" wrote in message
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Where is the proof that vaccines prvent diseases? That's a
bunch of crap and
you saying it repeatedlyt doesn't make it true.


What kind of proof would you accept?

Seen any smallpox lately?