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Boy/Girl Anatomy - Ack! They are asking!!!
But we are not talking about "dogs or cats or cars." We are speaking about
a subject that society finds "nasty" or "quiet like talking about toilet paper" that the old lady used to whisper the word. I still sometimes feel we have not progressed much from the 50's when I was a kid or my mom in the 30's, when my grandmother didn't tell my mom anything. Also, having been molested at the age of 7 by a cousin's husband who was 21, I'm a bit sensitive to making sure kids are aware. Body parts are body parts, we have always approached things as matter of fact, answered questions only to the question and no more until Kathleen started to rapidly develop. Like I said, at 9.5 she knows pretty much the whole kit and caboodle. Having said that, we started to read the 3rd Princess Diary book and right in the beginning it talks about the mother - who is living in the foreign country with her princess daughter and she is pregnant from a boyfriend. I got to that part as we were reading the night stories and stopped, had to explain, talk and I took it back to the library. Kathleen reads at a 5th grade level, chapter books, and this was in the teen section, not adult. I was applaud to say the least. We took it back, it was a basis for a great discussion and had led to further questions about pregnancy and boyfriends and marriage but they are surrounded by the stuff constantly. One of the kindergarten teachers, a really beautiful lady, had a baby while teaching without a husband or SO. Anyhow, I just think this whole line of 'how to tell them things' leads to a better relationship and information. Kathleen and her class will be going to the local health center early in the school year this coming year to learn about sex - to which she has said "oh mom, I know all about that stuff". There is still some giggling from her peers who I know the mom's have not discussed much with them and they ARE developing. Shirley "Chotii" wrote in message ... "shirley" wrote in message news:rkZCc.116700$0y.45910@attbi_s03... Do you call your nose "nosie" or your foot "footie"? I don't see a difference! All body parts have names and whether the children are 4 or 14 they need to know. Actually, my MIL did this with my nephews (for whom she provided daytime care when they were small). Drove me nuts. And the dog was an 'arf-arf' and the car was a 'vroom vroom'. I have no idea why she didn't want to say 'dog' or even 'doggie' and 'car', but there you went. I can tell you the boys use the correct words for them now, so they don't seem to have been harmed. --angela |
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Boy/Girl Anatomy - Ack! They are asking!!!
Our school facilitator tells the kids at school who have hygiene issues to
wash the "highs and the lows" which is a great term even for our kids. Shirley "TwinMom" wrote in message ... Man, oh man, what an active topic. I had to pop in here. With 8yo frat boys and now an almost 4yo girl (raising my niece since 22 mos), we've crossed this bridge, sort of. The boys always knew that they had penises and testicles. (Suddenly remembering a bath time surprise "Mom!!! There's a ball in my scrotum!!!" when one found his testes! ROFLMAO at the time! He thought something he had eaten had gotten stuck!) Anyway, the general term for that area in our house is their "parts" as in private parts, and as in more than one thing down there. We figured that it leaves us lots of room to improve as time goes on. It also shortens the conversations during bath time, as in "Did you wash your parts?" or "Is all the soap out of your parts?". It gets the message across and they can check around themselves and make sure they're clean, etc. When it comes to specific terms for specific situations, we use them. One DS had a terrible, irritated fungal rash last year around his anus from improper wiping and we used that term at the doctor's and after when discussing that specific problem. (It was kinda gross having to apply ointment, but it was all very matter of fact and we kept him informed of his recovery each time.) He is now much more careful BTW. When we talk about using the slot in their underwear to go to the bathroom (a new concept to them) we use the term penis. With our "new" DD, so far, we've just used the term parts, because that's all we've needed, however, at potty time, she does ask for help wiping her "bum". She knows that her bum is part of her parts down there. As she gets older and more curious, we'll be there with the factual answers as is age appropriate. Oh, and one last thing, with a girl in the house, modesty has suddenly become a big thing with the boys. Even around me. They get quite embarrassed being caught in "the buff". Makes for some funny times. HTH Lorraine in Los Alamos |
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Boy/Girl Anatomy - Ack! They are asking!!!
Our school facilitator tells the kids at school who have hygiene issues to
wash the "highs and the lows" which is a great term even for our kids. Shirley "TwinMom" wrote in message ... Man, oh man, what an active topic. I had to pop in here. With 8yo frat boys and now an almost 4yo girl (raising my niece since 22 mos), we've crossed this bridge, sort of. The boys always knew that they had penises and testicles. (Suddenly remembering a bath time surprise "Mom!!! There's a ball in my scrotum!!!" when one found his testes! ROFLMAO at the time! He thought something he had eaten had gotten stuck!) Anyway, the general term for that area in our house is their "parts" as in private parts, and as in more than one thing down there. We figured that it leaves us lots of room to improve as time goes on. It also shortens the conversations during bath time, as in "Did you wash your parts?" or "Is all the soap out of your parts?". It gets the message across and they can check around themselves and make sure they're clean, etc. When it comes to specific terms for specific situations, we use them. One DS had a terrible, irritated fungal rash last year around his anus from improper wiping and we used that term at the doctor's and after when discussing that specific problem. (It was kinda gross having to apply ointment, but it was all very matter of fact and we kept him informed of his recovery each time.) He is now much more careful BTW. When we talk about using the slot in their underwear to go to the bathroom (a new concept to them) we use the term penis. With our "new" DD, so far, we've just used the term parts, because that's all we've needed, however, at potty time, she does ask for help wiping her "bum". She knows that her bum is part of her parts down there. As she gets older and more curious, we'll be there with the factual answers as is age appropriate. Oh, and one last thing, with a girl in the house, modesty has suddenly become a big thing with the boys. Even around me. They get quite embarrassed being caught in "the buff". Makes for some funny times. HTH Lorraine in Los Alamos |
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Boy/Girl Anatomy - Ack! They are asking!!!
Our school facilitator tells the kids at school who have hygiene issues to
wash the "highs and the lows" which is a great term even for our kids. Shirley "TwinMom" wrote in message ... Man, oh man, what an active topic. I had to pop in here. With 8yo frat boys and now an almost 4yo girl (raising my niece since 22 mos), we've crossed this bridge, sort of. The boys always knew that they had penises and testicles. (Suddenly remembering a bath time surprise "Mom!!! There's a ball in my scrotum!!!" when one found his testes! ROFLMAO at the time! He thought something he had eaten had gotten stuck!) Anyway, the general term for that area in our house is their "parts" as in private parts, and as in more than one thing down there. We figured that it leaves us lots of room to improve as time goes on. It also shortens the conversations during bath time, as in "Did you wash your parts?" or "Is all the soap out of your parts?". It gets the message across and they can check around themselves and make sure they're clean, etc. When it comes to specific terms for specific situations, we use them. One DS had a terrible, irritated fungal rash last year around his anus from improper wiping and we used that term at the doctor's and after when discussing that specific problem. (It was kinda gross having to apply ointment, but it was all very matter of fact and we kept him informed of his recovery each time.) He is now much more careful BTW. When we talk about using the slot in their underwear to go to the bathroom (a new concept to them) we use the term penis. With our "new" DD, so far, we've just used the term parts, because that's all we've needed, however, at potty time, she does ask for help wiping her "bum". She knows that her bum is part of her parts down there. As she gets older and more curious, we'll be there with the factual answers as is age appropriate. Oh, and one last thing, with a girl in the house, modesty has suddenly become a big thing with the boys. Even around me. They get quite embarrassed being caught in "the buff". Makes for some funny times. HTH Lorraine in Los Alamos |
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Boy/Girl Anatomy - Ack! They are asking!!!
Bra? You mean I only have 2 more years until they come on the scene. I had
no idea it was so close! Thanks for the heads up. -- Erin Morgan and Megan 2/15/97 Evan 5/14/00 "shirley" wrote in message news:rkZCc.116700$0y.45910@attbi_s03... Do you call your nose "nosie" or your foot "footie"? I don't see a difference! All body parts have names and whether the children are 4 or 14 they need to know. "Cute" names for those body parts and not other parts gives kids a feeling that these parts are different and should be "snickered" about, not just a matter of fact, at least in my opinion and in the opinion of the sex educators at my middle school. My MIL (who is 90) has always told her two kids the proper names and so do we. We don't make a big deal and I can tell you where this has lead to. Kathleen is maturing, she wears a size A bra, has all body hair that needs to be there, shaves and knows all about periods and sex. Her wonderful question to me when we got to the big talk was why her friends couldn't talk about this stuff. When I told her some friends might not be developed yet and their moms may feel uncomfortable about talking about sex to their daughters her wise 9 year old answer was - gee mom, it's their daughters - why would they be uncomfortable talking about anything to them!!!! What a wonderful question from a 9 year old. Our experience for our children is that the real terms work - no matter how old. Shirley Chris and Kathleen 1/95 "Ellen Kmetz" wrote in message ... I'm sorry, but I just don't see the need to teach 3 & 4 year-olds terms like "vulva" and "urethra". My boys call their penises their "winkies", they know that only boys have them, and we've had some very funny conversations about who has a winky and who doesn't. My daughter is 9 and now knows the correct terms, but when she was 4 she called it her "front butt" and "back butt". She isn't scarred for life or ashamed of her body just because at age four she didn't know to call it a "vagina" or "vulva". They're practically still babies, for God's sake! It's CUTE when they call their privates by "pet names". So when they get old enough you tell them "this is what it's really called" and that's that. What is the big deal?? Let them be KIDS. JMO. Ellen -------- Erin 6/26/95 Bradley & Alex 10/5/00 |
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Boy/Girl Anatomy - Ack! They are asking!!!
Bra? You mean I only have 2 more years until they come on the scene. I had
no idea it was so close! Thanks for the heads up. -- Erin Morgan and Megan 2/15/97 Evan 5/14/00 "shirley" wrote in message news:rkZCc.116700$0y.45910@attbi_s03... Do you call your nose "nosie" or your foot "footie"? I don't see a difference! All body parts have names and whether the children are 4 or 14 they need to know. "Cute" names for those body parts and not other parts gives kids a feeling that these parts are different and should be "snickered" about, not just a matter of fact, at least in my opinion and in the opinion of the sex educators at my middle school. My MIL (who is 90) has always told her two kids the proper names and so do we. We don't make a big deal and I can tell you where this has lead to. Kathleen is maturing, she wears a size A bra, has all body hair that needs to be there, shaves and knows all about periods and sex. Her wonderful question to me when we got to the big talk was why her friends couldn't talk about this stuff. When I told her some friends might not be developed yet and their moms may feel uncomfortable about talking about sex to their daughters her wise 9 year old answer was - gee mom, it's their daughters - why would they be uncomfortable talking about anything to them!!!! What a wonderful question from a 9 year old. Our experience for our children is that the real terms work - no matter how old. Shirley Chris and Kathleen 1/95 "Ellen Kmetz" wrote in message ... I'm sorry, but I just don't see the need to teach 3 & 4 year-olds terms like "vulva" and "urethra". My boys call their penises their "winkies", they know that only boys have them, and we've had some very funny conversations about who has a winky and who doesn't. My daughter is 9 and now knows the correct terms, but when she was 4 she called it her "front butt" and "back butt". She isn't scarred for life or ashamed of her body just because at age four she didn't know to call it a "vagina" or "vulva". They're practically still babies, for God's sake! It's CUTE when they call their privates by "pet names". So when they get old enough you tell them "this is what it's really called" and that's that. What is the big deal?? Let them be KIDS. JMO. Ellen -------- Erin 6/26/95 Bradley & Alex 10/5/00 |
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Boy/Girl Anatomy - Ack! They are asking!!!
Bra? You mean I only have 2 more years until they come on the scene. I had
no idea it was so close! Thanks for the heads up. -- Erin Morgan and Megan 2/15/97 Evan 5/14/00 "shirley" wrote in message news:rkZCc.116700$0y.45910@attbi_s03... Do you call your nose "nosie" or your foot "footie"? I don't see a difference! All body parts have names and whether the children are 4 or 14 they need to know. "Cute" names for those body parts and not other parts gives kids a feeling that these parts are different and should be "snickered" about, not just a matter of fact, at least in my opinion and in the opinion of the sex educators at my middle school. My MIL (who is 90) has always told her two kids the proper names and so do we. We don't make a big deal and I can tell you where this has lead to. Kathleen is maturing, she wears a size A bra, has all body hair that needs to be there, shaves and knows all about periods and sex. Her wonderful question to me when we got to the big talk was why her friends couldn't talk about this stuff. When I told her some friends might not be developed yet and their moms may feel uncomfortable about talking about sex to their daughters her wise 9 year old answer was - gee mom, it's their daughters - why would they be uncomfortable talking about anything to them!!!! What a wonderful question from a 9 year old. Our experience for our children is that the real terms work - no matter how old. Shirley Chris and Kathleen 1/95 "Ellen Kmetz" wrote in message ... I'm sorry, but I just don't see the need to teach 3 & 4 year-olds terms like "vulva" and "urethra". My boys call their penises their "winkies", they know that only boys have them, and we've had some very funny conversations about who has a winky and who doesn't. My daughter is 9 and now knows the correct terms, but when she was 4 she called it her "front butt" and "back butt". She isn't scarred for life or ashamed of her body just because at age four she didn't know to call it a "vagina" or "vulva". They're practically still babies, for God's sake! It's CUTE when they call their privates by "pet names". So when they get old enough you tell them "this is what it's really called" and that's that. What is the big deal?? Let them be KIDS. JMO. Ellen -------- Erin 6/26/95 Bradley & Alex 10/5/00 |
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Boy/Girl Anatomy - Ack! They are asking!!!
I think "private parts" is sort of burdening to a child. It gets the ball
rolling toard sexual dystrophy and a fear of real intimacy. I mean, how young does someone have to be for us to start slinging pejorative epithets at their sexual awakening? "Terri and Rob" wrote in message . .. When I was in high school, one of my friends had daughter. As a teen mom, she had no experience or insight into "right" ways to raise a child. She taught her daughter to refer to her vagina using the crude word beginning with p and synonymous with cat. I think that wins the award for the most inappropriate way of dealing with the situation at hand, don't you? -- Terri & Rob Colton (11-29-00) Aimee and Kylie (12-22-03) Visit us at: http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a..._kylie_colton/ "KimandJuan" wrote in message ... I have never liked butt and I despise hiney, we say tush or tushie. Alexis corrects people all the time. I have to get onto her. She will tell other children,"It is not nice to say, Butt!" ~Kimberly Mommy to Alexis Iliana 07/17/99 and Emma Elidia & Aislyn Gabriela 10/01/02 come see us... http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aislynemma/ |
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Boy/Girl Anatomy - Ack! They are asking!!!
I think "private parts" is sort of burdening to a child. It gets the ball
rolling toard sexual dystrophy and a fear of real intimacy. I mean, how young does someone have to be for us to start slinging pejorative epithets at their sexual awakening? "Terri and Rob" wrote in message . .. When I was in high school, one of my friends had daughter. As a teen mom, she had no experience or insight into "right" ways to raise a child. She taught her daughter to refer to her vagina using the crude word beginning with p and synonymous with cat. I think that wins the award for the most inappropriate way of dealing with the situation at hand, don't you? -- Terri & Rob Colton (11-29-00) Aimee and Kylie (12-22-03) Visit us at: http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a..._kylie_colton/ "KimandJuan" wrote in message ... I have never liked butt and I despise hiney, we say tush or tushie. Alexis corrects people all the time. I have to get onto her. She will tell other children,"It is not nice to say, Butt!" ~Kimberly Mommy to Alexis Iliana 07/17/99 and Emma Elidia & Aislyn Gabriela 10/01/02 come see us... http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aislynemma/ |
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Boy/Girl Anatomy - Ack! They are asking!!!
I think "private parts" is sort of burdening to a child. It gets the ball
rolling toard sexual dystrophy and a fear of real intimacy. I mean, how young does someone have to be for us to start slinging pejorative epithets at their sexual awakening? "Terri and Rob" wrote in message . .. When I was in high school, one of my friends had daughter. As a teen mom, she had no experience or insight into "right" ways to raise a child. She taught her daughter to refer to her vagina using the crude word beginning with p and synonymous with cat. I think that wins the award for the most inappropriate way of dealing with the situation at hand, don't you? -- Terri & Rob Colton (11-29-00) Aimee and Kylie (12-22-03) Visit us at: http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a..._kylie_colton/ "KimandJuan" wrote in message ... I have never liked butt and I despise hiney, we say tush or tushie. Alexis corrects people all the time. I have to get onto her. She will tell other children,"It is not nice to say, Butt!" ~Kimberly Mommy to Alexis Iliana 07/17/99 and Emma Elidia & Aislyn Gabriela 10/01/02 come see us... http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aislynemma/ |
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