Historical corporal punishment ...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:20:43 -0000, "AnneF-"
wrote:

On Jul 24, 8:12 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:35:32 -0000, "AnneF-"



wrote:
On Jul 24, 3:40 pm, firemonkey wrote:
On Jul 24, 5:20 pm, Greegor wrote:

On Jul 23, 6:19 am, American Greed wrote:

0:-] wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:19:14 -0400, American Greed
wrote:

0:-] wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:40:34 -0400, American Greed
wrote:

Dan Sullivan wrote:
On Jul 22, 9:07 am, American Greed wrote:
Dan Sullivan wrote:
"American Greed" wrote in message
s.com...
0:-] wrote:
Don - your spanking rants are OT here.
This is a support group for parents who have been abused by CPS scum like
you.
Then tell us what experience you've had with CPS that brings you here.
I saved my daughter from attacking feral dogs.
That has nothing to do with CPS.
Don saved his daughter from attacking feral dogs.

Kane saved his daughter from attacking feral dogs.

And he posts here.
I had no idea there was more than one pack of feral dogs in the world,
and more than one attack.
Didn't you say you were 'published' on the subject of dog 'pack
behavior'? But now you don't know about feral dog packs?

Maybe you are confusing me with Don. I've never searched of his
publications though. Here, or on Amazon, or anywhere.

You wrote in post . com

Kane: I was good enough at both to train others to my methods. I was studying
herd behavior patterns in horses, and pack behavior in dogs, as yearly
as 1955. And am published on the subject. In fact, having children of
my own took my interest to the study of human behavior and eventually
into mental health rehabilitation work with children. I am published in
that field as well.

-----------------------------

Have you?

How bout Hawaii, when you and your dog killed a pack of feral dogs?

Was there a mention of a daughter in that story, and was it mine?

Yes - in message id#

Don/d'geezer: I had them cut up some very valuable horses on my property (leased) on
the side of Mt. Olomana in Hawaii many years ago. I had a lovely pet
dog, about 80 lbs, of big baby lickin, sweatheart of a cross that HATED
WILD DOGS SO MUCH HE KILLED FOUR WHEN HE WAS AN 14 MONTH OLD PUP. They
went after "his" puppy, my 14 month old daughter.

--------------

Did you know Don/d'geezer also killed a pack of feral dogs under the
same circumstances and in the same area of Hawaii?

No, I don't know that.

Don/d'geezer: Later, in my twenties and thirties, I lived in Hawaii and again found myself
living mostly in the bush. On a rented place where I was raising and training
horse above Kaneohe Bay, Mount Olomana area, I had a problem with feral dogs.

My own dog would run them, as he was something of a killer himself when it came to
dogs, and I encouraged him considering the value of my livestock, registered
Quarter Horses being bred for racing.

He took out after a single stray dog one day and I get my Marlin and followed him,
as I heard him fighting up a draw. By the time I got there he had killed three
dogs and we sat down to rest. In minutes we were surrounded by the rest of the
pack. I never had time to count but all in all we killed, in a running retreat
down the draw, 18 dogs before we got clear. He took out about four more and I shot
the rest. Really believed I'd have to go to clubbing them, and even the best
Marlin is not much of a bludgeon.

------------------------

Imagine that. Don leased land in Hawaii Mt. Olomana area where he raised
and trained horses.

And you leased land in Hawaii Mt. Olomana area where he raised and
trained horses.

Go figger.

What a coincidence!
They both killed feral dogs in the Mount Olomana area? LOL- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The link Dennis provided as proof of this does not exist, are you
confused again greg?
FM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It exists but you have to be a member of scnresearch to be able to
access it.
You can do a google search on Kane's posts and findout if it's true or
not.

AF

Hi Doan, you confessed to USC that you violated university system user
policy and likely risked your job there by putting your posts under a
nym through their system?

Doan's going to participate in the great outing you know. And likely
if he's a stupid as I think he is, take much more serious risks.

And also make Don Fisher a hero in the bargain.

YOu see, neither Don or I have broken any laws, or violated any
government agency policies.

And we think he might have, and Greg at al, will most assuredly have.
One already has.

All stake holders have been notified and are following this intently.

0:]

Who is Don Fisher? Is he related to Anne Fisher? :-}

AF


Who is Doan Duy Trahn, is he an employee of University of Southern
California and info system tech managing servers, and sophisticated at
all kinds of wonderful stuff that he might choose to use ....
mmmmmm...shall we say, unethically?

On Jul 25, 1:44 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:20:43 -0000, "AnneF-"





wrote:
On Jul 24, 8:12 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:35:32 -0000, "AnneF-"

wrote:
On Jul 24, 3:40 pm, firemonkey wrote:
On Jul 24, 5:20 pm, Greegor wrote:

On Jul 23, 6:19 am, American Greed wrote:

0:-] wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:19:14 -0400, American Greed
wrote:

0:-] wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:40:34 -0400, American Greed
wrote:

Dan Sullivan wrote:
On Jul 22, 9:07 am, American Greed wrote:
Dan Sullivan wrote:
"American Greed" wrote in message
s.com...
0:-] wrote:
Don - your spanking rants are OT here.
This is a support group for parents who have been abused by CPS scum like
you.
Then tell us what experience you've had with CPS that brings you here.
I saved my daughter from attacking feral dogs.
That has nothing to do with CPS.
Don saved his daughter from attacking feral dogs.

Kane saved his daughter from attacking feral dogs.

And he posts here.
I had no idea there was more than one pack of feral dogs in the world,
and more than one attack.
Didn't you say you were 'published' on the subject of dog 'pack
behavior'? But now you don't know about feral dog packs?

Maybe you are confusing me with Don. I've never searched of his
publications though. Here, or on Amazon, or anywhere.

You wrote in post . com

Kane: I was good enough at both to train others to my methods. I was studying
herd behavior patterns in horses, and pack behavior in dogs, as yearly
as 1955. And am published on the subject. In fact, having children of
my own took my interest to the study of human behavior and eventually
into mental health rehabilitation work with children. I am published in
that field as well.

-----------------------------

Have you?

How bout Hawaii, when you and your dog killed a pack of feral dogs?

Was there a mention of a daughter in that story, and was it mine?

Yes - in message id#

Don/d'geezer: I had them cut up some very valuable horses on my property (leased) on
the side of Mt. Olomana in Hawaii many years ago. I had a lovely pet
dog, about 80 lbs, of big baby lickin, sweatheart of a cross that HATED
WILD DOGS SO MUCH HE KILLED FOUR WHEN HE WAS AN 14 MONTH OLD PUP. They
went after "his" puppy, my 14 month old daughter.

--------------

Did you know Don/d'geezer also killed a pack of feral dogs under the
same circumstances and in the same area of Hawaii?

No, I don't know that.

Don/d'geezer: Later, in my twenties and thirties, I lived in Hawaii and again found myself
living mostly in the bush. On a rented place where I was raising and training
horse above Kaneohe Bay, Mount Olomana area, I had a problem with feral dogs.

My own dog would run them, as he was something of a killer himself when it came to
dogs, and I encouraged him considering the value of my livestock, registered
Quarter Horses being bred for racing.

He took out after a single stray dog one day and I get my Marlin and followed him,
as I heard him fighting up a draw. By the time I got there he had killed three
dogs and we sat down to rest. In minutes we were surrounded by the rest of the
pack. I never had time to count but all in all we killed, in a running retreat
down the draw, 18 dogs before we got clear. He took out about four more and I shot
the rest. Really believed I'd have to go to clubbing them, and even the best
Marlin is not much of a bludgeon.

------------------------

Imagine that. Don leased land in Hawaii Mt. Olomana area where he raised
and trained horses.

And you leased land in Hawaii Mt. Olomana area where he raised and
trained horses.

Go figger.

What a coincidence!
They both killed feral dogs in the Mount Olomana area? LOL- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The link Dennis provided as proof of this does not exist, are you
confused again greg?
FM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It exists but you have to be a member of scnresearch to be able to
access it.
You can do a google search on Kane's posts and findout if it's true or
not.

AF

Hi Doan, you confessed to USC that you violated university system user
policy and likely risked your job there by putting your posts under a
nym through their system?

Doan's going to participate in the great outing you know. And likely
if he's a stupid as I think he is, take much more serious risks.

And also make Don Fisher a hero in the bargain.

YOu see, neither Don or I have broken any laws, or violated any
government agency policies.

And we think he might have, and Greg at al, will most assuredly have.
One already has.

All stake holders have been notified and are following this intently.

0:]

Who is Don Fisher? Is he related to Anne Fisher? :-}

AF

Who is Doan Duy Trahn, is he an employee of University of Southern
California and info system tech managing servers, and sophisticated at
all kinds of wonderful stuff that he might choose to use ....
mmmmmm...shall we say, unethically?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What's the name of your lawyer, Kane? :-{

AF

On Jul 26, 9:12 pm, "AnneF-" wrote:
What's the name of your lawyer, Kane? :-{

Been there, done that.
Kane has tried bogus threats of legal action numerous times.

One time he posted a general warning letter
which did not name any person, not even an
alias it was addressed to, and he said that his
attorney had read and approved the letter.
He conveniently never mentioned the supposed lawyers name.

His sock or idiotic protege' Firemonkey has ALSO made
false accusations and threats of action against me by her
ex the cop AND threats of legal action.

Firemonkey claimed she paid for ""information"" on me.

Just like Kane's many threats of legal action,
none of the threats came true even though I am
openly listed in the phone book.

There IS such a thing as abusing threats of law suit.
Attempting to intimidate, drive off or squelch an
opponent is certainly an abuse.

Kane and his crowd have a propensity for such
threats of legal action.

As for naming Donald L. Fisher's wife Ann, please
notice that the hyena pack has had no hesitation
to post my SO Lisa's full name.

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:12:10 -0700, "AnneF-"
wrote:

On Jul 25, 1:44 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:20:43 -0000, "AnneF-"





wrote:
On Jul 24, 8:12 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:35:32 -0000, "AnneF-"

wrote:
On Jul 24, 3:40 pm, firemonkey wrote:
On Jul 24, 5:20 pm, Greegor wrote:

On Jul 23, 6:19 am, American Greed wrote:

0:-] wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:19:14 -0400, American Greed
wrote:

0:-] wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:40:34 -0400, American Greed
wrote:

Dan Sullivan wrote:
On Jul 22, 9:07 am, American Greed wrote:
Dan Sullivan wrote:
"American Greed" wrote in message
s.com...
0:-] wrote:
Don - your spanking rants are OT here.
This is a support group for parents who have been abused by CPS scum like
you.
Then tell us what experience you've had with CPS that brings you here.
I saved my daughter from attacking feral dogs.
That has nothing to do with CPS.
Don saved his daughter from attacking feral dogs.

Kane saved his daughter from attacking feral dogs.

And he posts here.
I had no idea there was more than one pack of feral dogs in the world,
and more than one attack.
Didn't you say you were 'published' on the subject of dog 'pack
behavior'? But now you don't know about feral dog packs?

Maybe you are confusing me with Don. I've never searched of his
publications though. Here, or on Amazon, or anywhere.

You wrote in post . com

Kane: I was good enough at both to train others to my methods. I was studying
herd behavior patterns in horses, and pack behavior in dogs, as yearly
as 1955. And am published on the subject. In fact, having children of
my own took my interest to the study of human behavior and eventually
into mental health rehabilitation work with children. I am published in
that field as well.

-----------------------------

Have you?

How bout Hawaii, when you and your dog killed a pack of feral dogs?

Was there a mention of a daughter in that story, and was it mine?

Yes - in message id#

Don/d'geezer: I had them cut up some very valuable horses on my property (leased) on
the side of Mt. Olomana in Hawaii many years ago. I had a lovely pet
dog, about 80 lbs, of big baby lickin, sweatheart of a cross that HATED
WILD DOGS SO MUCH HE KILLED FOUR WHEN HE WAS AN 14 MONTH OLD PUP. They
went after "his" puppy, my 14 month old daughter.

--------------

Did you know Don/d'geezer also killed a pack of feral dogs under the
same circumstances and in the same area of Hawaii?

No, I don't know that.

Don/d'geezer: Later, in my twenties and thirties, I lived in Hawaii and again found myself
living mostly in the bush. On a rented place where I was raising and training
horse above Kaneohe Bay, Mount Olomana area, I had a problem with feral dogs.

My own dog would run them, as he was something of a killer himself when it came to
dogs, and I encouraged him considering the value of my livestock, registered
Quarter Horses being bred for racing.

He took out after a single stray dog one day and I get my Marlin and followed him,
as I heard him fighting up a draw. By the time I got there he had killed three
dogs and we sat down to rest. In minutes we were surrounded by the rest of the
pack. I never had time to count but all in all we killed, in a running retreat
down the draw, 18 dogs before we got clear. He took out about four more and I shot
the rest. Really believed I'd have to go to clubbing them, and even the best
Marlin is not much of a bludgeon.

------------------------

Imagine that. Don leased land in Hawaii Mt. Olomana area where he raised
and trained horses.

And you leased land in Hawaii Mt. Olomana area where he raised and
trained horses.

Go figger.

What a coincidence!
They both killed feral dogs in the Mount Olomana area? LOL- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The link Dennis provided as proof of this does not exist, are you
confused again greg?
FM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It exists but you have to be a member of scnresearch to be able to
access it.
You can do a google search on Kane's posts and findout if it's true or
not.

AF

Hi Doan, you confessed to USC that you violated university system user
policy and likely risked your job there by putting your posts under a
nym through their system?

Doan's going to participate in the great outing you know. And likely
if he's a stupid as I think he is, take much more serious risks.

And also make Don Fisher a hero in the bargain.

YOu see, neither Don or I have broken any laws, or violated any
government agency policies.

And we think he might have, and Greg at al, will most assuredly have.
One already has.

All stake holders have been notified and are following this intently.

0:]

Who is Don Fisher? Is he related to Anne Fisher? :-}

AF

Who is Doan Duy Trahn, is he an employee of University of Southern
California and info system tech managing servers, and sophisticated at
all kinds of wonderful stuff that he might choose to use ....
mmmmmm...shall we say, unethically?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What's the name of your lawyer, Kane? :-{

You get mine when I get yours, and your admission you are Doan.


AF

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:07:39 -0700, Greegor
wrote:

On Jul 26, 9:12 pm, "AnneF-" wrote:
What's the name of your lawyer, Kane? :-{

Been there, done that.
Kane has tried bogus threats of legal action numerous times.

Someone has lied to you. They took place. But the person hides it from
you.

One time he posted a general warning letter
which did not name any person,

Why would one in a general statement.

not even an
alias it was addressed to,

No reason to post that here.

and he said that his
attorney had read and approved the letter.

Yes, he did.

He conveniently never mentioned the supposed lawyers name.

Why would I?

His sock or idiotic protege' Firemonkey has ALSO made
false accusations and threats of action against me by her
ex the cop AND threats of legal action.

So, defy her and continue.

Firemonkey claimed she paid for ""information"" on me.

Did she?


Just like Kane's many threats of legal action,

I did not make many threats, and I followed through. One reader knows
that, to his sorrow.

none of the threats came true even though I am
openly listed in the phone book.

Did I name you specifically? And are we out of time?

There IS such a thing as abusing threats of law suit.

Is there? You have a statute that clarifies your claim?

Attempting to intimidate, drive off or squelch an
opponent is certainly an abuse.

That depends on methods used and the truth of YOUR claim that I did.

I still have copies of me begging you to stay.

Have you forgotten them.

Kane and his crowd have a propensity for such
threats of legal action.

Crowd?

I have a question for you. If you think I'm Don Fisher, and you have
all this action going about him, with various threats of your own, and
claims of illegal ... remember you AGREED with Dennis sock, of his
intent to provide child molesters with Oregon children waiting for
adoption...don't you think you might want to reexamine your claims of
who is harassing who and who is attempting to drive who away?

As for naming Donald L. Fisher's wife Ann, please
notice that the hyena pack has had no hesitation
to post my SO Lisa's full name.

Have you seen Ann Fisher mentioned by Don Fisher, or I, in this
newsgroup as a party to anything?

No, Greg, YOU are the first person, as I recall, and I'll check my
records on this for you is you wish, to mention Don Fisher's wife Ann
here by name.

Is that not correct, little man?

And you have seen Doan deliberately play with her initials and now ask
outright about someone completely disconnected with these
newsgroups...bought by YOU to attempt to intimidate ME because you
think I'm Don Fisher.

Now have a little chat with Doan and discuss his implied threat of
taking legal action against me for speaking out about HIS position and
his knowledge and it's possible implications.

He's full of ****, and so are you.

YOUR were the first harassers to bring up someone's name NOT connect
to this newsgroup and our discussions in any way.

A BLATANT ATTEMPT TO INTIMIDATE.

Is that not true?

You may also go **** yourself, and invite Doan to your circle jerk.

He's forgotten his own posting history.

And the things that tie him to harassment of innocent people.

Have a jolly time sorting out who is actually at risk of legal action
that will stick, Greg.

0:]

On Jul 26, 8:16 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:12:10 -0700, "AnneF-"





wrote:
On Jul 25, 1:44 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:20:43 -0000, "AnneF-"

wrote:
On Jul 24, 8:12 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:35:32 -0000, "AnneF-"

wrote:
On Jul 24, 3:40 pm, firemonkey wrote:
On Jul 24, 5:20 pm, Greegor wrote:

On Jul 23, 6:19 am, American Greed wrote:

0:-] wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:19:14 -0400, American Greed
wrote:

0:-] wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:40:34 -0400, American Greed
wrote:

Dan Sullivan wrote:
On Jul 22, 9:07 am, American Greed wrote:
Dan Sullivan wrote:
"American Greed" wrote in message
s.com...
0:-] wrote:
Don - your spanking rants are OT here.
This is a support group for parents who have been abused by CPS scum like
you.
Then tell us what experience you've had with CPS that brings you here.
I saved my daughter from attacking feral dogs.
That has nothing to do with CPS.
Don saved his daughter from attacking feral dogs.

Kane saved his daughter from attacking feral dogs.

And he posts here.
I had no idea there was more than one pack of feral dogs in the world,
and more than one attack.
Didn't you say you were 'published' on the subject of dog 'pack
behavior'? But now you don't know about feral dog packs?

Maybe you are confusing me with Don. I've never searched of his
publications though. Here, or on Amazon, or anywhere.

You wrote in post . com

Kane: I was good enough at both to train others to my methods. I was studying
herd behavior patterns in horses, and pack behavior in dogs, as yearly
as 1955. And am published on the subject. In fact, having children of
my own took my interest to the study of human behavior and eventually
into mental health rehabilitation work with children. I am published in
that field as well.

-----------------------------

Have you?

How bout Hawaii, when you and your dog killed a pack of feral dogs?

Was there a mention of a daughter in that story, and was it mine?

Yes - in message id#

Don/d'geezer: I had them cut up some very valuable horses on my property (leased) on
the side of Mt. Olomana in Hawaii many years ago. I had a lovely pet
dog, about 80 lbs, of big baby lickin, sweatheart of a cross that HATED
WILD DOGS SO MUCH HE KILLED FOUR WHEN HE WAS AN 14 MONTH OLD PUP. They
went after "his" puppy, my 14 month old daughter.

--------------

Did you know Don/d'geezer also killed a pack of feral dogs under the
same circumstances and in the same area of Hawaii?

No, I don't know that.

Don/d'geezer: Later, in my twenties and thirties, I lived in Hawaii and again found myself
living mostly in the bush. On a rented place where I was raising and training
horse above Kaneohe Bay, Mount Olomana area, I had a problem with feral dogs.

My own dog would run them, as he was something of a killer himself when it came to
dogs, and I encouraged him considering the value of my livestock, registered
Quarter Horses being bred for racing.

He took out after a single stray dog one day and I get my Marlin and followed him,
as I heard him fighting up a draw. By the time I got there he had killed three
dogs and we sat down to rest. In minutes we were surrounded by the rest of the
pack. I never had time to count but all in all we killed, in a running retreat
down the draw, 18 dogs before we got clear. He took out about four more and I shot
the rest. Really believed I'd have to go to clubbing them, and even the best
Marlin is not much of a bludgeon.

------------------------

Imagine that. Don leased land in Hawaii Mt. Olomana area where he raised
and trained horses.

And you leased land in Hawaii Mt. Olomana area where he raised and
trained horses.

Go figger.

What a coincidence!
They both killed feral dogs in the Mount Olomana area? LOL- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The link Dennis provided as proof of this does not exist, are you
confused again greg?
FM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It exists but you have to be a member of scnresearch to be able to
access it.
You can do a google search on Kane's posts and findout if it's true or
not.

AF

Hi Doan, you confessed to USC that you violated university system user
policy and likely risked your job there by putting your posts under a
nym through their system?

Doan's going to participate in the great outing you know. And likely
if he's a stupid as I think he is, take much more serious risks.

And also make Don Fisher a hero in the bargain.

YOu see, neither Don or I have broken any laws, or violated any
government agency policies.

And we think he might have, and Greg at al, will most assuredly have.
One already has.

All stake holders have been notified and are following this intently.

0:]

Who is Don Fisher? Is he related to Anne Fisher? :-}

AF

Who is Doan Duy Trahn, is he an employee of University of Southern
California and info system tech managing servers, and sophisticated at
all kinds of wonderful stuff that he might choose to use ....
mmmmmm...shall we say, unethically?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What's the name of your lawyer, Kane? :-{

You get mine when I get yours, and your admission you are Doan.


Mine is Larry H. Parker. What's yours? Are you Don Fisher? ;-)

AF



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AnneF- wrote:
On Jul 26, 8:16 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:12:10 -0700, "AnneF-"





wrote:
On Jul 25, 1:44 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:20:43 -0000, "AnneF-"
wrote:
On Jul 24, 8:12 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:35:32 -0000, "AnneF-"
wrote:
On Jul 24, 3:40 pm, firemonkey wrote:
On Jul 24, 5:20 pm, Greegor wrote:
On Jul 23, 6:19 am, American Greed wrote:
0:-] wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:19:14 -0400, American Greed
wrote:
0:-] wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:40:34 -0400, American Greed
wrote:
Dan Sullivan wrote:
On Jul 22, 9:07 am, American Greed wrote:
Dan Sullivan wrote:
"American Greed" wrote in message
.. .
0:-] wrote:
Don - your spanking rants are OT here.
This is a support group for parents who have been abused by CPS scum like
you.
Then tell us what experience you've had with CPS that brings you here.
I saved my daughter from attacking feral dogs.
That has nothing to do with CPS.
Don saved his daughter from attacking feral dogs.
Kane saved his daughter from attacking feral dogs.
And he posts here.
I had no idea there was more than one pack of feral dogs in the world,
and more than one attack.
Didn't you say you were 'published' on the subject of dog 'pack
behavior'? But now you don't know about feral dog packs?
Maybe you are confusing me with Don. I've never searched of his
publications though. Here, or on Amazon, or anywhere.
You wrote in post . com
Kane: I was good enough at both to train others to my methods. I was studying
herd behavior patterns in horses, and pack behavior in dogs, as yearly
as 1955. And am published on the subject. In fact, having children of
my own took my interest to the study of human behavior and eventually
into mental health rehabilitation work with children. I am published in
that field as well.
-----------------------------
Have you?
How bout Hawaii, when you and your dog killed a pack of feral dogs?
Was there a mention of a daughter in that story, and was it mine?
Yes - in message id#
Don/d'geezer: I had them cut up some very valuable horses on my property (leased) on
the side of Mt. Olomana in Hawaii many years ago. I had a lovely pet
dog, about 80 lbs, of big baby lickin, sweatheart of a cross that HATED
WILD DOGS SO MUCH HE KILLED FOUR WHEN HE WAS AN 14 MONTH OLD PUP. They
went after "his" puppy, my 14 month old daughter.
--------------
Did you know Don/d'geezer also killed a pack of feral dogs under the
same circumstances and in the same area of Hawaii?
No, I don't know that.
Don/d'geezer: Later, in my twenties and thirties, I lived in Hawaii and again found myself
living mostly in the bush. On a rented place where I was raising and training
horse above Kaneohe Bay, Mount Olomana area, I had a problem with feral dogs.
My own dog would run them, as he was something of a killer himself when it came to
dogs, and I encouraged him considering the value of my livestock, registered
Quarter Horses being bred for racing.
He took out after a single stray dog one day and I get my Marlin and followed him,
as I heard him fighting up a draw. By the time I got there he had killed three
dogs and we sat down to rest. In minutes we were surrounded by the rest of the
pack. I never had time to count but all in all we killed, in a running retreat
down the draw, 18 dogs before we got clear. He took out about four more and I shot
the rest. Really believed I'd have to go to clubbing them, and even the best
Marlin is not much of a bludgeon.
------------------------
Imagine that. Don leased land in Hawaii Mt. Olomana area where he raised
and trained horses.
And you leased land in Hawaii Mt. Olomana area where he raised and
trained horses.
Go figger.
What a coincidence!
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The link Dennis provided as proof of this does not exist, are you
confused again greg?
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It exists but you have to be a member of scnresearch to be able to
access it.
You can do a google search on Kane's posts and findout if it's true or
not.
AF
Hi Doan, you confessed to USC that you violated university system user
policy and likely risked your job there by putting your posts under a
nym through their system?
Doan's going to participate in the great outing you know. And likely
if he's a stupid as I think he is, take much more serious risks.
And also make Don Fisher a hero in the bargain.
YOu see, neither Don or I have broken any laws, or violated any
government agency policies.
And we think he might have, and Greg at al, will most assuredly have.
One already has.
All stake holders have been notified and are following this intently.
0:]
Who is Don Fisher? Is he related to Anne Fisher? :-}
AF
Who is Doan Duy Trahn, is he an employee of University of Southern
California and info system tech managing servers, and sophisticated at
all kinds of wonderful stuff that he might choose to use ....
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What's the name of your lawyer, Kane? :-{
You get mine when I get yours, and your admission you are Doan.


Mine is Larry H. Parker. What's yours? Are you Don Fisher? ;-)

You didn't fulfill my request.

The name in Sender is the same one used by a poster using a USC server
as IP host, and there were provocative posts recently with the same
name, with a concealed host, thus an anonymous mail forwarder to hide
the origin, and now and IP host owned by
OrgID: CCCD-1
Address: 1370 Adams Ave.
City: Costa Mesa
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 92626
Country: US

For this post.

In other words, who every you are you are still playing games.

When you stop and think about and what you and I know about posting
hosts, I've never done so.

Who are you?

And I'll need more than a name to establish that you are who ever you
claim now, especially since you refused my request.

Are you AnneF-? And where do you live under that name?



AF


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On Jul 26, 10:29 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:07:39 -0700, Greegor
wrote:

On Jul 26, 9:12 pm, "AnneF-" wrote:
What's the name of your lawyer, Kane? :-{

Been there, done that.
Kane has tried bogus threats of legal action numerous times.

Someone has lied to you. They took place. But the person hides it from
you.

You and Firemonkey have threatened legal action against
me many times, but it has all been hot air.

One time he posted a general warning letter
which did not name any person,

Why would one in a general statement.

A proper cease and desist order would not
be based on INNUENDO, but specific actions,
and would specifically name the party intended for.

What you posted was more like some ROYAL DECREE,
a public display of your Megalomania.

G not even an alias it was addressed to,
K No reason to post that here.

Not if you don't intend it to be a legal notice.

G and he said that his
G attorney had read and approved the letter.
K Yes, he did.
G He conveniently never mentioned the supposed lawyers name.
K Why would I?

To lend it some authenticity, at the very least.
Without his name, signature and Bar Association
number your claims are obvious fraud.

G His sock or idiotic protege' Firemonkey has ALSO made
G false accusations and threats of action against me by her
G ex the cop AND threats of legal action.
K So, defy her and continue.

I fart in your general direction.

G Firemonkey claimed she paid for ""information"" on me.
K Did she?
She so claimed.
For information that's in the online phone book!

G Just like Kane's many threats of legal action,

K I did not make many threats, and I followed through.

Not the threats you made to me. Pure gas bagging.

K One reader knows that, to his sorrow.

Proof?

G none of the threats came true even though I am
G openly listed in the phone book.

Did I name you specifically?
Yes.

And are we out of time?
Yes.

G There IS such a thing as abusing threats of law suit.
K Is there? You have a statute that clarifies your claim?
Not necessary.

G Attempting to intimidate, drive off or squelch an
G opponent is certainly an abuse.

K That depends on methods used and the
K truth of YOUR claim that I did.

K I still have copies of me begging you to stay.
K Have you forgotten them.

Meaningless

G Kane and his crowd have a propensity for such
G threats of legal action.
K Crowd?
cohorts

Kane wrote
I have a question for you. If you think I'm Don Fisher, and you have
all this action going about him, with various threats of your own, and
claims of illegal

Claims of illegal what?

... remember you AGREED with Dennis sock,

Dennis hasn't been here for over a year you retard.
You've immortalized him with your finger pointing!

of his intent to provide child molesters with Oregon children waiting for
adoption...don't you think you might want to reexamine your claims of
who is harassing who and who is attempting to drive who away?

Not after you actually bragged about how you posted gratuitous
obscenity for over a full year. Pattern of behavior.
Intrusion into Family Rights groups when up front you
stated hostility toward them. Stalking.

G As for naming Donald L. Fisher's wife Ann, please
G notice that the hyena pack has had no hesitation
G to post my SO Lisa's full name.

Have you seen Ann Fisher mentioned by Don Fisher, or I, in this
newsgroup as a party to anything?

No, Greg, YOU are the first person, as I recall, and I'll check my
records on this for you is you wish, to mention Don Fisher's wife Ann
here by name.
Is that not correct, little man?
After you and Dan posted my SO's name, obtained from Congressional
record.

And you have seen Doan deliberately play with her initials and now ask
outright about someone completely disconnected with these
newsgroups...bought by YOU to attempt to intimidate ME because you
think I'm Don Fisher.

Is it Doan?
I bought somebody?

Now have a little chat with Doan and discuss his implied threat of
taking legal action against me for speaking out about HIS position and
his knowledge and it's possible implications.

He's full of ****, and so are you.

YOUR were the first harassers to bring up someone's name NOT connect
to this newsgroup and our discussions in any way.

First? Nope.

A BLATANT ATTEMPT TO INTIMIDATE.

Is that not true?

You may also go **** yourself, and invite Doan to your circle jerk.

Is this language your attorney would condone?
Does this hamper your ""legal position"" just a bit? LOL

He's forgotten his own posting history.
And the things that tie him to harassment of innocent people.
Have a jolly time sorting out who is actually at risk of legal action
that will stick, Greg.

Your pattern of such bogus legal threats would
certainly be an issue if any actual action ever started.

AF provided their lawyer's name.
You said you would provide yours if they did.
Who is your lawyer Donald?

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:14:33 -0700, Greegor
wrote:

On Jul 26, 10:29 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:07:39 -0700, Greegor
wrote:

On Jul 26, 9:12 pm, "AnneF-" wrote:
What's the name of your lawyer, Kane? :-{

Been there, done that.
Kane has tried bogus threats of legal action numerous times.

Someone has lied to you. They took place. But the person hides it from
you.

You and Firemonkey have threatened legal action against
me many times, but it has all been hot air.

I can't speak for Firemonkey. As for myself, my only "threat" has
taken the form of, action should you or your cronies, present or past,
cause or appear to be trying to cause harm to me, mine, or Don's.

One time he posted a general warning letter
which did not name any person,

Why would one in a general statement.

A proper cease and desist order would not
be based on INNUENDO, but specific actions,
and would specifically name the party intended for.

Of course. What cease and desist order did I mention?

I have said, "if," Greg, repeatedly. I am no long willing to tolerate
your studied and deliberate ignorance, that you think frees you to
make the same false claims over and over again.

This was resolved long ago in exchanges with us, and you simply ignore
that and lie again, about what I said and how I said it.

Feel free to post my actual Usenet post that would support your claim.


What you posted was more like some ROYAL DECREE,
a public display of your Megalomania.

That I would not tolerate you or anyone involved going without action
should one of YOU take action against me and mine?

how is that megalomania, Greg?


G not even an alias it was addressed to,
K No reason to post that here.

Not if you don't intend it to be a legal notice.

It was a notice, not a legal action. All that is required in it is for
me to describe...and I really don't have to do that, the conditions
under which I would take action "if."

I did that. But I certainly didn't include all my options. 0:]


G and he said that his
G attorney had read and approved the letter.
K Yes, he did.
G He conveniently never mentioned the supposed lawyers name.
K Why would I?

To lend it some authenticity, at the very least.

I don't NEED his name or anyone's to make a simple statement of my
intent.

Without his name, signature and Bar Association
number your claims are obvious fraud.

What claims?

And would that make my statement of intent to take action "IF" a
'fraud.' I wrote it. I said it. I meant it.

Even if I never activate for cause, "if" factor, it's not a fraud.
Unless you can read my mind and I'm telling you I never intended to
act on it "if" you little twerps did anything.

So, while your in there, look for my memory of that airline stewardess
I dated in the 60s. Can't seem to recall her face any more. 0:]

G His sock or idiotic protege' Firemonkey has ALSO made
G false accusations and threats of action against me by her
G ex the cop AND threats of legal action.
K So, defy her and continue.

I fart in your general direction.

As usual, just like when you ****, the wind is in your direction.
That's what you get for being too 'general.'

In other words, you are determinedly stupid, as are others, and refuse
to take this seriously the possible consequences of your own actions.

G Firemonkey claimed she paid for ""information"" on me.
K Did she?
She so claimed.
For information that's in the online phone book!

One can put false information in an online phone book. One can request
the site remove, or change information.

G Just like Kane's many threats of legal action,

K I did not make many threats, and I followed through.

Not the threats you made to me. Pure gas bagging.

I didn't make any threats to you, other than contingent on, "if"
certain things happened.

K One reader knows that, to his sorrow.

Proof?

You? Ask ME for proof?

It was already posted in this newsgroup.

And the cause as well.

If you can't figure it out, then that's your loss. And explains why
you are so stupid as to threaten me with false claims.

G none of the threats came true even though I am
G openly listed in the phone book.

Did I name you specifically?
Yes.

Contingent on what?

If I were to say I'm going to send you a chocolate bar, I have
threatened to do so.

If I say, that if you urge someone to call me a bad name, or do so
yourself, I'll send you a chocolate bar, the "if" is the contingency,
and you aren't going to get a chocolate bar UNTIL the person you urged
does call me a bad name or you yourself do.

If you believe the first is threat, then what component in the second
do you see as a threat?

In one I WILL DO as I said. In the other, ONLY upon certain actions of
another

In the second control of the contingency is not MINE. In fact, you can
avoid a chocolate bar if neither YOU, nor the other person call me a
bad name.

Simple, isn't it?

And are we out of time?
Yes.

G There IS such a thing as abusing threats of law suit.
K Is there? You have a statute that clarifies your claim?
Not necessary.

Then you made an empty claim, based on your opinion. I also then have
abused, by my statement above, abusing threats to send a chocolate
bar.

And the two are just about equally funny to view when your comment of
'abuse' is added.

G Attempting to intimidate, drive off or squelch an
G opponent is certainly an abuse.

K That depends on methods used and the
K truth of YOUR claim that I did.

K I still have copies of me begging you to stay.
K Have you forgotten them.

Meaningless

On the contrary. They were seriously meant, and seriously written, and
read seriously to anyone that can comprehend the english language
sufficiently. I do not want you to ever leave this forum.

That doesn't mean that I'll give up my rights to free speech and
withhold my opinions of you to keep you here.

What methods have I used to attempt to drive you off, or intimidate
you? Please be clear in your explanation.


G Kane and his crowd have a propensity for such
G threats of legal action.
K Crowd?
cohorts

The use of that word strongly suggests a group that each member has
some responsibility for the actions or every other. That they act in
concert, and they decide together what acts to take, and the rationale
for them.

We've even disagreed publicly, if you include Dan and Betty. I believe
I may have differed with others as well, that have not taken a liking
to you.

You accused me, after I admonished one of them, of them being a sock
attacking you and me covering that it was I that took what I felt to
be unethical actions.

Does that look like a "cohort" response?

Your financial dealings that became legal issues were outside the
purvey of this forum, and your personally stated reasons for being
here. I did not protest the marital and domestic abuse issue simply
because it WAS part of the subject matter you introduced.

You never discussed your finances other than your job issues. Hence I
was not tolerant of that being a point of discussion.

In fact, as I look back and your admitted work record, it occurs to me
now I might have been wrong to admonish the poster. You DID say you
were on a sabbatical, and we can be fairly sure it was for at least
three years.

In any case, I defended you, and you are so caught up in yourself and
your little games you could not accept that. Show that I posted as
someone else that made that disclosure.

Kane wrote
I have a question for you. If you think I'm Don Fisher, and you have
all this action going about him, with various threats of your own, and
claims of illegal ...

Claims of illegal what?

.... acts.

Thank you for catching my oversight.

You don't recall saying "yes" when I asked you if you agreed with the
claim Don Fisher had deliberately posted children's
waiting-for-adoption information for the express purpose of soliciting
molesters to adopt them, as the sock claimed?

Wouldn't want you to have to wait for proof, so I'll just volunteer
your own post now. And yes, I did, as I always do, check the headers
to make sure no one was spoofing a post under your name.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...33193d6?hl=en&
http://tinyurl.com/2dp9j2

Newsgroups: alt.support.child-protective-services,
alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, alt.parenting.spanking,
alt.support.foster-parents, alt.support.divorce
From: Greegor
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:06:05 -0700
Local: Mon, Jul 16 2007 3:06 am
Subject: Fairfax CPS Socialworker fabricates Sexual Abuse
Allegations.

K You seem awful touchy lately.

Who's swearing?

Say, tell me, do you think Donald L. Fisher, who you have identified
as living in Bend Oregon and an employee of CPS, actually pandered to
perverts and spammed children in state custody to them, Greg?

Yes. ...

That's YOUR "yes," Greg.

This is a long post, Greg, and you and anyone interested is invited to
read it in full and see if you modified your accusation in any way to
diminish your simple "yes."

... remember you AGREED with Dennis sock,

Dennis hasn't been here for over a year you retard.
You've immortalized him with your finger pointing!

No, he is immortalizing with his sock posting. His style is
unmistakable. And well, a tiny little slip he made.

of his intent to provide child molesters with Oregon children waiting for
adoption...don't you think you might want to reexamine your claims of
who is harassing who and who is attempting to drive who away?

And again you support your claim that "yes" you believe that Donald
Fisher deliberately with intent to supply child molesters posted
children's information on the web?

Not after you actually bragged about how you posted gratuitous
obscenity for over a full year.

Pattern of behavior.

My pattern of behavior warrants claiming Don Fisher is a panderer to
child molesters?

Can you explain how obscenity, which is rather common hereabouts (read
a few of Doan's posts, searching for them on "****.") equates with
very serious claims, that you have now verified YOU agree with, that
someone is a wholesale panderer of children?

Intrusion

One doesn't INTRUDE into a public forum, Greg. No one asked me to
leave. In fact, I made no comment for them to take offense at. You are
lying again. How wearisome of you.

into Family Rights groups when up front you
stated hostility toward them. Stalking.

So I'm stalking if I go to the NAMBLA site, say, and I take strong
offense to the, Greg, and am a bad boy for disagreeing with them?

R R R R R R

The only FR group forum, ONE, I've been to, Greg, was public at the
time. Are you trying to sell the idea that those that disagree with
SOME of what takes place there is stalking? And is not welcome?

Why would a Rights group NOT want critical exchanges between people in
a forum? To learn and grow their information base?

What possible use can it be if it contains nothing but agreement?

And I presume agreement with YOUR contributions like,

- there is a good side to TPR,

- and one should early on force the state to take your case to trial,

- and you should, if you disagree with the laws on secret recording
show up in someone else's court case, and with the taped evidence in
hand declare you have broken the law...and you said this to someone
that had only a few weeks before just gotten her children back out of
CPS custody?

THIS is what you want to be safe for you to peddle without challenge,
Greg?

You want newcomers to see ONLY those kinds of things, some of which
have proven repeatedly to be case breakers for people who then lost
their children as a result of such advice being followed?

I don't think you are a vulture. I believe you are more like a
vampire.

You will run, and fail to defend what I just wrote about you, and
claim it's out of context, but you will NOT provide context, isn't
that right, Greg?

For provocation you cannot be beaten. I could swear at a newcomer here
(which would be an extremely rare thing) in their first few postings
and it would NEVER result in them risking their children and fortunes
like YOUR kind of advice can and has, Greg.


G As for naming Donald L. Fisher's wife Ann, please
G notice that the hyena pack has had no hesitation
G to post my SO Lisa's full name.

Have you seen Ann Fisher mentioned by Don Fisher, or I, in this
newsgroup as a party to anything?

I'll remember that you failed to respond, Greg.

Who put her and address up on this forum, Greg?

Your playing with Bend, is bull****. A diversion that someone warned
you needed because of the seriousness of what you REALLY DID.

I think you need a memory jog, and someone to consult with on your
provocative post:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...9545f3290ae00c

Note that your referenced proof (odd you could find it for this, but
never for your lies, eh?) was a website with no connection to CPS.

And YOU went out of our way to find it..with a little help from your
friends.

And the trouble you went to.

You might also consider who gave you the link to, or information to
find that...and whether or not you'll carry water for him, should the
occasion arise.

He might want to think about that a bit, as well.

Here's a post of your, where you again try to link me with child
molesters, and when I challenge what ever nonsense you were babbling,
the thread abruptly ends. This is a habit of yours.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...&lnk=nl&hl=en&
There are a number of such things from you.


No, Greg, YOU are the first person, as I recall, and I'll check my
records on this for you is you wish, to mention Don Fisher's wife Ann
here by name.
Is that not correct, little man?
After you and Dan posted my SO's name, obtained from Congressional
record.

ON THE SUBJECT OF CPS? Well, go figger, little man. Now show us the
connection to Ms Fisher, and a CPS case. And don't try that crap of
Don being a caseworker. Won't fly because you yourself dropped that
referrence about him. You are puka liar, little man.

Ms Fisher has never commented on CPS here or anywhere else on the web,
Greg. You fished up, with help, information to attempt to ID me then
prefaced it to in Don's wife.

Did SHE sign off on his statement at that website, Greg...or were you
just overcome with enthusiasm?

As for Lisa's name, someone with a case YOU have brought up here as
your reason to be here -- "after you and Dan?" Please cite your proof
with posts that include dates.

And you did NOT refer to your testimony against Iowa DHS after the
post I link to above? Your mention of Ms. Fisher?

Please point us to the Congressional record, or HW&MC committee record
you refer to. I see NO mention of HER LOCATION BY ADDRESS. No mention
of her business (which might just be a strong argument in YOUR
disclosure...should it come up....of an attempt to influence
commerce...which of course is across state lines....get the hint,
dimwit?).

Let us consider, before we read the author Greg, his contentions about
US using Lisa's name, and in full or part does not matter.

It is not all that difficult to eventually run across her full name
when looking for proof of some fool claim Greg makes.

He himself, and others, of his cohort, have used her name contiuously
to discuss "his" case, since 2001. 80 PAGES of citations with her
name.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...0895bb286672f5
for the thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...6a0574a?hl=en&
for the post:

.... The visit supervisor is even ADDING on a service that
she already said in writing that Lisa DOES NOT NEED. ...

Doubtless this isn't the first mention of her, but it's the furtherest
back google would deliver so that I could provide a link for proof.
0:] Dontchajusthatethat, don't it chaff your ass, make yah wanna
bitch, pitch a fit?

Your continual use of her name linked with you and a CPS case is the
key, me boy. If you didn't want her name here, YOU should never have
brought it up.

Now show us where I, or Don Fisher brought up his wife's name here,
harrasser, STALKER.

By the way, I checked. He lies YET AGAIN, even about her
business...more SERIOUS breach of law, because it can be taken as
making her authorship less than what it is, mainstream work on
homeschooling. According to records I've found, Ms Fisher is one of
the very large body of people that own their own publishing companies.

Thus here it's being labelled as a "Vanity Press" which means you must
pay THEM to print your work with no particular intent of selling on a
commercial scale. Ms. Fisher is read world wide...about 22 countries
at last count, offers to translate her works pending where english is
less commonly taught, inquiries from those that have never heard of
her except through her lectures, and her column in one of the top
homeschooling periodicals. Or by others mention that have read her
work.

This is a public figure Greg has maligned, and possibly, defamed.

She tells me she has never paid anyone to publish her works for her.

Want to rethink this little pile of Dobie statuette you droped?

So without further adieu, but great peeeeuuuuwww, I give you:

Nov 30th, 2004, Greg:

....For those of you who don't already know it,
our beloved Kane's real name is Don Fisher
and he is 70 years old.
He lives close to Portland Oregon, but has
another address in Carson, WA associated with
Nettlepatch Press, a Vanity Press selling his
wife's books on home schooling.

In the newsgroup he has denied working for
Child Protection, but Commander McBrag has also
bragged about his exploits working within
Child protective Services. He also described his
reason that he himself was a Foster kid, as
having been because of war and actually made
his bio parents sound wonderful, but the
captured text below appears to contradict that. ...

Greg, are you aware that people can have MORE than one set of parents,
stupid?

How many people do you know that say to their step-mom, "Hey,
step-mom, can I have another waffle?"

Or "Adopted mom, where are my brown socks?"

And you have seen Doan deliberately play with her initials and now ask
outright about someone completely disconnected with these
newsgroups...bought by YOU to attempt to intimidate ME because you
think I'm Don Fisher.

Is it Doan?

Why didn't you answer? AFraid to? AFhole?

I bought somebody?

Brought.

Go ahead. Say it isn't Doan. "I dare you, I double dare you."

Now have a little chat with Doan and discuss his implied threat of
taking legal action against me for speaking out about HIS position and
his knowledge and it's possible implications.

He's full of ****, and so are you.

YOUR were the first harassers to bring up someone's name NOT connect
to this newsgroup and our discussions in any way.

First? Nope.

Yep.

Now YOU justify YOU bringing up someone ELSE that not only is not
connected to this newsgroup, but had NEVER been mentioned here before
you did. And has NO involvement was so ever in CPS or CPS discussions.

Lisa WAS a client and YOU came here babbling about her as your SO. She
WAS INVOLVED BY YOU.

I never mentioned Ms Fisher here, Nor did Don Fisher. Nor did She ever
post here, Dan didn't, Sherman didn't. NO one but YOU Greg.

YOu are the harrasser of note, here, Greg. And have been from the
beginning. I have dozens of your posts accusing others of all kinds of
ugly things, little man, to defend yourself against the ACTUAL ugly
things YOU DID and gave us proof of yourself.

YOUR accusations of others were always, back then, before you learned
the creative use of the question mark, stated as assertions of fact,
and NEVER did you provide proof when asked.

Others here, myself included are ALWAYS happy to repost your little
bull**** self aggrandizement crappola to SHOW HOW YOU IMPLICATED
YOURSELF.



A BLATANT ATTEMPT TO INTIMIDATE.

Is that not true?

You may also go **** yourself, and invite Doan to your circle jerk.

Is this language your attorney would condone?

He doesn't concern himself with that. Yours shouldn't with you either.
You've had your moments, Greg.

I note you are unable to refute my claim about "blatant attempt to
intimidate."

Show me were you have asked me to stay in this group. Show me where
have haven't called me an intruder for visting a family rights group,
plainly trying to keep me away.

Then I'll show you a couple of post of mine 0:] where I have elaborate
on why I want you here.

My respect for the first amendment, being one, you little
constitutionalist you, and so that you can continue to expose you and
those like you by your strange babbling that seem so likely to get
people canned and losing their children.


Does this hamper your ""legal position"" just a bit? LOL

Enhancement.

And considerably. I don't want you to stop...keep going.

He's forgotten his own posting history.
And the things that tie him to harassment of innocent people.
Have a jolly time sorting out who is actually at risk of legal action
that will stick, Greg.

Your pattern of such bogus legal threats

It was not a legal threat. It was a very plain statement of intent
about taking legal actions "IF."

would
certainly be an issue if any actual action ever started.

No doubt. And would be an argument in your favor, or mine?

I never asked you to leave. I've only said that you run a risk of you
encourage putting others at risk and that risk is enacted by someone.

AF provided their lawyer's name.

AF is "their?" Plural? Dear me, now that could complicate thing for
you.

Who is AF, Greg?

AF posted that request shortly after I discussed Doan, asking if that
is who it was posting, and if he might chose to misuse his knowledge.

He seems to have forgotten the question mark, and his own liberal use
of it. And yours. If he wishes to removed mine, then I have more than
enough opportunity to remove his in the same manner...which would be
quite interesting, if I did, don't you think?

You said you would provide yours if they did.

I did.

Who is your lawyer Donald?

Who is AF, and AnneF- Greg?

Who is your attorney, Greg?

Yourself?

Give me a laugh.

On Jul 26, 9:10 pm, "0:]" wrote:
AnneF- wrote:
On Jul 26, 8:16 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:12:10 -0700, "AnneF-"

wrote:
On Jul 25, 1:44 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:20:43 -0000, "AnneF-"
wrote:
On Jul 24, 8:12 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:35:32 -0000, "AnneF-"
wrote:
On Jul 24, 3:40 pm, firemonkey wrote:
On Jul 24, 5:20 pm, Greegor wrote:
On Jul 23, 6:19 am, American Greed wrote:
0:-] wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:19:14 -0400, American Greed
wrote:
0:-] wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:40:34 -0400, American Greed
wrote:
Dan Sullivan wrote:
On Jul 22, 9:07 am, American Greed wrote:
Dan Sullivan wrote:
"American Greed" wrote in message
news:46a32243$0$16321$88260bb3@fr ee.teranews.com...
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Don - your spanking rants are OT here.
This is a support group for parents who have been abused by CPS scum like
you.
Then tell us what experience you've had with CPS that brings you here.
I saved my daughter from attacking feral dogs.
That has nothing to do with CPS.
Don saved his daughter from attacking feral dogs.
Kane saved his daughter from attacking feral dogs.
And he posts here.
I had no idea there was more than one pack of feral dogs in the world,
and more than one attack.
Didn't you say you were 'published' on the subject of dog 'pack
behavior'? But now you don't know about feral dog packs?
Maybe you are confusing me with Don. I've never searched of his
publications though. Here, or on Amazon, or anywhere.
You wrote in post . com
Kane: I was good enough at both to train others to my methods. I was studying
herd behavior patterns in horses, and pack behavior in dogs, as yearly
as 1955. And am published on the subject. In fact, having children of
my own took my interest to the study of human behavior and eventually
into mental health rehabilitation work with children. I am published in
that field as well.
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Have you?
How bout Hawaii, when you and your dog killed a pack of feral dogs?
Was there a mention of a daughter in that story, and was it mine?
Yes - in message id#
Don/d'geezer: I had them cut up some very valuable horses on my property (leased) on
the side of Mt. Olomana in Hawaii many years ago. I had a lovely pet
dog, about 80 lbs, of big baby lickin, sweatheart of a cross that HATED
WILD DOGS SO MUCH HE KILLED FOUR WHEN HE WAS AN 14 MONTH OLD PUP. They
went after "his" puppy, my 14 month old daughter.
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Did you know Don/d'geezer also killed a pack of feral dogs under the
same circumstances and in the same area of Hawaii?
No, I don't know that.
Don/d'geezer: Later, in my twenties and thirties, I lived in Hawaii and again found myself
living mostly in the bush. On a rented place where I was raising and training
horse above Kaneohe Bay, Mount Olomana area, I had a problem with feral dogs.
My own dog would run them, as he was something of a killer himself when it came to
dogs, and I encouraged him considering the value of my livestock, registered
Quarter Horses being bred for racing.
He took out after a single stray dog one day and I get my Marlin and followed him,
as I heard him fighting up a draw. By the time I got there he had killed three
dogs and we sat down to rest. In minutes we were surrounded by the rest of the
pack. I never had time to count but all in all we killed, in a running retreat
down the draw, 18 dogs before we got clear. He took out about four more and I shot
the rest. Really believed I'd have to go to clubbing them, and even the best
Marlin is not much of a bludgeon.
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Imagine that. Don leased land in Hawaii Mt. Olomana area where he raised
and trained horses.
And you leased land in Hawaii Mt. Olomana area where he raised and
trained horses.
Go figger.
What a coincidence!
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The link Dennis provided as proof of this does not exist, are you
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It exists but you have to be a member of scnresearch to be able to
access it.
You can do a google search on Kane's posts and findout if it's true or
not.
AF
Hi Doan, you confessed to USC that you violated university system user
policy and likely risked your job there by putting your posts under a
nym through their system?
Doan's going to participate in the great outing you know. And likely
if he's a stupid as I think he is, take much more serious risks.
And also make Don Fisher a hero in the bargain.
YOu see, neither Don or I have broken any laws, or violated any
government agency policies.
And we think he might have, and Greg at al, will most assuredly have.
One already has.
All stake holders have been notified and are following this intently.
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Who is Don Fisher? Is he related to Anne Fisher? :-}
AF
Who is Doan Duy Trahn, is he an employee of University of Southern
California and info system tech managing servers, and sophisticated at
all kinds of wonderful stuff that he might choose to use ....
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What's the name of your lawyer, Kane? :-{
You get mine when I get yours, and your admission you are Doan.

Mine is Larry H. Parker. What's yours? Are you Don Fisher? ;-)

You didn't fulfill my request.

The name in Sender is the same one used by a poster using a USC server
as IP host, and there were provocative posts recently with the same
name, with a concealed host, thus an anonymous mail forwarder to hide
the origin, and now and IP host owned by
OrgID: CCCD-1
Address: 1370 Adams Ave.
City: Costa Mesa
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 92626
Country: US

For this post.

In other words, who every you are you are still playing games.

When you stop and think about and what you and I know about posting
hosts, I've never done so.

Who are you?

And I'll need more than a name to establish that you are who ever you
claim now, especially since you refused my request.

Are you AnneF-? And where do you live under that name?





AF

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You are stupid!!! I thought you said I posted from Cuba!

AF