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Old June 24th 07, 10:20 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
fx
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Default 'Free' is a relative term in America freedom at issue....


"fx" wrote in message
...
(snip)


CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A

DAILY
BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL SECURITY
AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....

CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and

even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.

every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com

Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS

*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*

Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5


Why do you continue to place these lies at the end of every post? They
have
been disproven again and again, yet you continue.

Honesty is a virtue. One that you apparently choose to ignore. Give
honesty a try, you might find it refreshing.



Ron

Ron, DO you know what they do to [YOU] if you knowingly submit false
information or testimony to the House of representatives?, think about it!
in the meantime.



Statement of Daniel Allen Roberts, Dunnellon, Florida

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/hearin...e=view&id=3163

This is in response to the issue of the Funds that are distributed to
the States. These funds primarily come from the The MONDALE Child Abuse
Prevention and Treatment Act of 1974 (CAPTA- Public Law 93-247).

While this law title sounds as if it is a valid area of concern and
proper law, it has been the incentive of improperly incarcerating
Children into foster care, and adopted out and away from non offending
parents each and every year. As it is, the money also provided to Foster
Care and to the Offices responsible for placing them, not only railroads
children from innocent parents who are low income and cannot afford
legal help, but due to the sheer volume of children, places the children
in danger as just about anybody is sought out to house these children.

In the efforts to also find children to fill these statistics, CPS
(Child Protective Services) Agents have been known to violate the 4th
Amendment, 5th Amendment, 6th Amendment and 14th Amendment of our US
Constitution on a regualr basis.

The police also wrongly think the CPS Agencies are not subject to
these Amendments, and enforce illegal investigations, impossible to do
case plans all for the sake of getting the children removed from the
home for the monetary incentives.

They also target children who are disabled to secure Title IV-E funds
from Social Security.

To also prove this money that is paid out clogs the Foster Care System
to the point of children being abused and killed in Foster Care far more
than if they were left at home is he Number of Cases per 100,000
children in the United States. These numbers come from The National
Center on Child Abuse in Washington. CPS- Physical Abuse (160) Sexual
Abuse (112) Neglect (410) Medical Neglect (14) Fatalities (6.4) Parents-
Physical Abuse (59) Sexual Abuse (13) Neglect (241) Medical Neglect (12)
Fatalities (1.5) As you can see, children are abused far more in care
than at home. The calculated average is for every 1 abused child removed
from an abusive home, there are 17 unabused children removed from loving
non-offending homes nationwide.

Please remove the Motive for the States to process Children in huge
quantities from non offending parents by ending totally this funding. It
s imperative we take the profit out of destroying good families away
from the states and CPS. Sincerely, Mr Daniel A Roberts & Family care,
and adopted).





Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies

that are
supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per

100,000
children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and

kills
more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of

this
country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents too. No
judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government

agency
because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and death than any human
being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more human rights

violations
and deaths of children then the homes from which they were removed.

When
are the judges going to wake up and see that they are sending

children to
their death and a life of abuse when children are removed from safe

homes
based on the mere opinion of a bunch of social workers.

BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF

REFORMING
OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES TAKE A
STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY ARE
"FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...



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Old June 25th 07, 03:19 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Ron
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 625
Default 'Free' is a relative term in America freedom at issue....


"fx" wrote in message
...

"fx" wrote in message
...
(snip)


CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A

DAILY
BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL SECURITY
AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....

CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and

even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.

every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com

Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS

*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*

Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5


Why do you continue to place these lies at the end of every post? They
have
been disproven again and again, yet you continue.

Honesty is a virtue. One that you apparently choose to ignore. Give
honesty a try, you might find it refreshing.



Ron

Ron, DO you know what they do to [YOU] if you knowingly submit false
information or testimony to the House of representatives?, think about
it!
in the meantime.


Yes, I do. And did you know that Mr. Daniel Allen Roberts was NOT under
oath, made a statement only, and is not subject to the legal ramifications
of those who make false statements to congress while under oath?

Opinion is opinion, and in many cases is not supported by the facts (as we
all know only to well here in this venue). Mr. Roberts made a statement to
(either in person or in writing) to the House Ways and Means Committee.
Statements are not testimony, but just someone talking. He gave them
opinion, and in any case either under oath or not, opinion is also not
subject to the legal ramifications of giving false statements to congress
while under oath, because it is an individuals PERSPECTIVE, and may or may
not be the truth.

False information is given to congress all the time. Every day, nearly
every hour. And those who give it are rarely punished for it.

So, the information you provide above, which I have disproven several times,
is indeed a pack of lies. So, answer the question, why do you continue to
knowingly post false data?

Ron



Statement of Daniel Allen Roberts, Dunnellon, Florida

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/hearin...e=view&id=3163

This is in response to the issue of the Funds that are distributed to the
States. These funds primarily come from the The MONDALE Child Abuse
Prevention and Treatment Act of 1974 (CAPTA- Public Law 93-247).

While this law title sounds as if it is a valid area of concern and proper
law, it has been the incentive of improperly incarcerating Children into
foster care, and adopted out and away from non offending parents each and
every year. As it is, the money also provided to Foster Care and to the
Offices responsible for placing them, not only railroads children from
innocent parents who are low income and cannot afford legal help, but due
to the sheer volume of children, places the children in danger as just
about anybody is sought out to house these children.

In the efforts to also find children to fill these statistics, CPS (Child
Protective Services) Agents have been known to violate the 4th Amendment,
5th Amendment, 6th Amendment and 14th Amendment of our US Constitution on
a regualr basis.

The police also wrongly think the CPS Agencies are not subject to these
Amendments, and enforce illegal investigations, impossible to do case
plans all for the sake of getting the children removed from the home for
the monetary incentives.

They also target children who are disabled to secure Title IV-E funds from
Social Security.

To also prove this money that is paid out clogs the Foster Care System to
the point of children being abused and killed in Foster Care far more than
if they were left at home is he Number of Cases per 100,000 children in
the United States. These numbers come from The National Center on Child
Abuse in Washington. CPS- Physical Abuse (160) Sexual Abuse (112) Neglect
(410) Medical Neglect (14) Fatalities (6.4) Parents- Physical Abuse (59)
Sexual Abuse (13) Neglect (241) Medical Neglect (12) Fatalities (1.5) As
you can see, children are abused far more in care than at home. The
calculated average is for every 1 abused child removed from an abusive
home, there are 17 unabused children removed from loving non-offending
homes nationwide.

Please remove the Motive for the States to process Children in huge
quantities from non offending parents by ending totally this funding. It s
imperative we take the profit out of destroying good families away
from the states and CPS. Sincerely, Mr Daniel A Roberts & Family care, and
adopted).





Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies

that are
supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per

100,000
children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and

kills
more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of

this
country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents too. No
judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government

agency
because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and death than any human
being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more human rights

violations
and deaths of children then the homes from which they were removed.

When
are the judges going to wake up and see that they are sending

children to
their death and a life of abuse when children are removed from safe

homes
based on the mere opinion of a bunch of social workers.

BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF

REFORMING
OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES TAKE A
STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY ARE
"FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...





 




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