One Week and Still no Milk

Why not put her on as long as she will stay on and you are having let
down?? I never understand this part of LC advice.


She did tell me as long as she stays on without getting upset, but that should
be at least 5-15 min per side. According to her advice, anyway.

So, is it really supply or just Eva not able to transfer milk from
breast to belly?? OR maybe she's not on long enough to get the letdown
that the pump got afterwards? OR the scales are not accurate enough?


It's possible that it's Eva not being able to transfer, as she gets very
sleepy at the breast sometimes. She just does a lot of comfort sucking most of
the time.

Linda
Mommy to Sophie, 2.5 years
and Eva, 9 days

In article , GoofeeGyrl
wrote:

Her assesment was that there is some anatomical reason that my milk supply is
so low. Something about the shape of my breasts that does not necessarily
mean
that there will be problems, just more likely or something. Don't know if
anybody knows what I am talking about, it was all a lot to take in.

Was she talking about a condition called "insufficient glandular
tissue?" It's kind of rare (1 in 100 mothers, I've heard) and can be a
tough one to diagnose. I have it. I have a good collection of info and
a pretty good BF success story. Let me know if I can be of any help.

--
Molly
http://www.sonic.net/~mollyf/

Was she talking about a condition called "insufficient glandular
tissue?" It's kind of rare (1 in 100 mothers, I've heard) and can be a
tough one to diagnose. I have it. I have a good collection of info and
a pretty good BF success story. Let me know if I can be of any help.

--
Molly


I just did a google search on this and from what I can tell, the most common
description is different sized breasts (for example one woman stated that she
had an A and a D cup) whereas mine are symetrical, but are widely set apart
as well as with less tissue under the nipple/areola than on top. If you have
any good links to info or anything else, I would be appreciative to read
anything more to see if this is in fact something that might be the case. I
have only been doing the nursing/supplementing/pumping thing for a day now but
it is ablsolutely exhausting and emotionally very difficult for me. It would
be different if I did not have a 2.5 year old to tend to!

Linda
Mommy to Sophie, 2.5 years
and Eva, 9 days old

On 16 Sep 2003 16:12:29 GMT, (GoofeeGyrl) wrote:

She was having 2-3 minimally wet diapers, with dark yellow/red urine. NO poopy
diapers. She was certainly not getting enough.


Just wondering has she been checked for a UTI?

Di

(GoofeeGyrl) wrote in message ...
THe other important question, of course, is NOT the baby's weight (which
is irrelevant) but the wet and poopy diapers. How many soakers is she
producing in a 24 hour period? If she's making 6-8, then just keep
nursing and don't bother supplementing, regardless of what the scale
says.


She was having 2-3 minimally wet diapers, with dark yellow/red urine. NO poopy
diapers. She was certainly not getting enough.

Linda
Mommy to Sophie, 2.5 years
and Eva, 9 days

Best of luck, Linda!

I'm glad the LC worked out a plan for you, and I hope it's not too
hard for you both! For what it's worth, I know plenty of babies that
were not expected to regain their birth weight for a long time --
three or four weeks in a couple of cases, with close monitoring, of
course. The 2cc. difference after feeding is pretty small, though,
and if she's not emptying out more than that, your supply could really
dwindle.

I followed up here rather than with your OP because I wanted to let
you know that Sage had a couple of days of the dark yellow/red urine
you're talking about, (I think!), and it really scared me. The nurse
I spoke with about it asked me if it looked like dried out pepto
bismol, and to me it did -- she told me it was uric acid crystals and
it was a sign of dehydration. I hope your LC either saw the diapers
or came to a similar conclusion if this is the case -- it's likely
that the plan she made for you will help in this regard anyway, but I
just wanted to let you know what I heard about that, in case it's the
same thing.

Keep us updated!

Tina.

Just wondering has she been checked for a UTI?

Di


No. Since we have been supplementing, her wet diapers are soaking and several
a day, normal colored urine.

Linda
Mommy to Sophie, 2.5 years
and Eva, 9 days

I'm glad the LC worked out a plan for you, and I hope it's not too
hard for you both!


Thanks. I am trying my best, the most I am able to get at any one pumping
session is .25 ounce. As I stated in another post, it's a bit too time
consuming with a toddler around, who *knows* I am unavailable to go running
after her and is taking full advantage. Eva still does a lot of confort
nursing, which is a nice, happy time for the both of us.

Keep us updated!

Tina.



Will do.

{{{Linda}}}

I've been there with the lack of diaper counts and lots of weight
loss. It is no fun. Hang in there. Domperidone, fenugreek,
chasteberry and oatmeal were all helpful for my supply. I found I
preferred syringe feeding to the SNS because I couldn't get a good
latch when I used the SNS. I went a little lean on the
supplementation, so the baby would go after the breast alot, and I
switch nursed meaning switching sides frequently is way better for
supply than staying on the same side for long periods.

Good luck,

KC
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(GoofeeGyrl) wrote in message ...
Eva had her one week WBV today and she was down to 7-4, from 8-3 at birth.
This is, of course, more than they like to see in weight loss. I knew that she
was not doing well, as I mentioned in my post last night. We went to see an LC
today (IBLC) and here is my assignment:

*Keep up Fenugreek
*Put Eva to breast, 5-15 min each side, as long as she does not get upset.
*Supplement with expressed milk/formula
*Pump 15 min each side. I have rented a Lactina (I think that's what it is
called, I am too tired to check)

Her assesment was that there is some anatomical reason that my milk supply is
so low. Something about the shape of my breasts that does not necessarily mean
that there will be problems, just more likely or something. Don't know if
anybody knows what I am talking about, it was all a lot to take in.

She also talked about Reglan and Domper....(again, forgot the name) that might
be an option after DD gets back to her birthweight.

After a feeding, Eva was only 2cc heavier on the scale, but I was able to
produce more than that at the pump.

Here's to a long week of trying and trying to see if we can turn things around.
Please send me good luck!

Linda
Mommy to Sophie, 2.5 years
and Eva, 8 days

Molly Fisher wrote:

Others here can probably help you come up with solutions for coping
with breastfeeding difficulties while caring for your toddler.

Take child proofing to a whole new level. Make the house very safe or at
least the main living room very safe and damage proof. Keep toys and books
in the main living area so you don't have to run upstairs for them. Keep
snack foods and drinks on low shelves in cupboards and fridge where they can
reach them alone.

Good luck!!
--
Nikki
Mama to Hunter (4) and Luke (2)