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Dentists and OBs...
DENTISTS AND OBs... See the very end of this post.
ASSUMING root canals cause cavitations and cavitations cause symptoms... COULD MEGADOSE VIT C HELP RELIEVE SYMPTOMS CAUSED BY ROOT CANALS/JAWBONE CAVITATIONS (different from cavities)? Dr. Andrew Saul says: "I know of no true option to a necessary root canal." http://www.doctoryourself.com/news/v3n2.txt When determining whether a root canal is necessary... Maybe dentists should start talking about jawbone cavitations? Susan Stockton, MA says: "Root canals will unquestionably cause cavitations sooner or later..." http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/JBcavitations.htm JAWBONE CAVITATIONS (different from cavities)... "Dead and dying teeth should not remain in the jaw, even if they are causing no acute distress to the patient. If CAVITAT (tm) scan of the jawbone shows pronounced necrosis under a 'vital' tooth, please entertain the possibility that the tooth only appears to be vital, and is, in fact, dying...For the chronic cavitation patient, extraction may be both the beginning and end of his or her health problems. The improperly done extraction (usually of a wisdom tooth) is frequently the beginning of a problem which may go undetected for decades, and then only be resolved by the proper extraction of some, or possibly all, of the remaining teeth, along with removal of necrotic bone from edentulous areas [areas where teeth have been extracted] and aggressive systemic detoxification. Prevention and early detection are the keys to avoiding this outcome. Improved imaging capabilities [with the CAVITAT (tm)] give us the tool for such early intervention.. The first step in solving the problem, however, is awareness of it. You have taken that step and are urged to take the next one. Doctors: Learn to recognize jawbone cavitations and to either treat them surgically, or refer your patient to a qualified cavitation surgeon for treatment. Patients: Seek out a dentist familiar with jawbone pathology: It may be the unsuspected cause of your systemic problems." --Susan Stockton, MA, author of Beyond Amalgam http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/JBcavitations.htm Susan's advice is obviously RADICAL - but it makes sense to me. One definition of the word radical is "arising from or going to a root or source." Again quoting Susan on root canals: "Root canals will unquestionably cause cavitations sooner or later..." http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/JBcavitations.htm To order Susan's book, go to: http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/books.html Megadose Vit C relieved cured relieved periodontal disease? Laura Lee Radio Show...transcript excerpt... Also cavitation is a new term you're going to learn tonight and that is the space left in the jawbone when a tooth is extracted. If an infected tooth or simply a wisdom tooth that needs to come out to make space, problems can arise with dead tissue in the jawbone and you're going to learn tonight what you can do about these conditions. We have with us Dr. George Meinig, the author of Root Canal Cover-Up. Martin: Hello, Laura Lee. Yeah this is kind of a personal topic for me, about 15 years ago I heard a report from the University of Texas Medical School at Waco. They had a 6ve-year study where they demonstrated that 1,000 milligrams of vitamin C per day would prevent periodontal disease...[A]fter that I was diagnosed by my dentist...with pretty serious periodontal disease...I immediately started taking 15,000 mg per day for the next four months. He x-rayed my teeth at the end of the third month and he said "You know something's happening here, the number of pockets you have and the size of those pockets is rapidly diminishing" 90 he wanted to re-X-ray just to verify this, so he did and it showed that some of the smaller pockets had completely gone away and the larger pockets were reduced by less than half their previous size only three months before...And he was amazed and he asked me what I had been doing, and I said I had simply been taking 15,000 mg of vitamin C every day - 5,000 with each meal. And other than that I hadn't changed my diet or done anything else. Does your guest have any experience using vitamin C for therapy? Laura Lee: Well, they are looking into nutrition and the impact it has on health overall. Dr. Meinig... Dr. Meinig: Well a third of my practice is actually periodontal disease. You said that I was a specialist in endodontics but I preferred to do all of dentistry and about a third of practice was periodontal disease. I never had any patient do 15,000 mg of vitamin C, I got many of them on vitamin C, but not that much, and your discovery is a very interesting one and I'm going to advise a few people to try that and let's see what happens with them. I can't say that I've had experience to that extent with anybody. http://www.mercola.com/2001/apr/25/cavitations.htm DENTISTS AND OBs... IF root canals cause cavitations/symptoms... THEN... Dentists who recommend or perform root canals (most dentists) are likely not going to agree that root canals are causing problems... SIMILARLY... Obstetricians who close birth canals (most obstetricians) are not going to agree that closing birth canals causes problems. Hence my usual public service announcement... PREGNANT WOMEN: OBs are knowingly closing birth canals up to 30%. For simple PROOF - and instructions on how easy it is for pregnant women to allow their birth canals to OPEN the "extra" up to 30%... See Shoulder Dystocia: OBs *keep* birth canal closed up to 30%! http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2561 |
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Dentists and OBs...
"Todd Gastaldo" wrote in message link.net... DENTISTS AND OBs... See the very end of this post. ASSUMING root canals cause cavitations and cavitations cause symptoms... COULD MEGADOSE VIT C HELP RELIEVE SYMPTOMS CAUSED BY ROOT CANALS/JAWBONE CAVITATIONS (different from cavities)? Dr. Andrew Saul says: "I know of no true option to a necessary root canal." http://www.doctoryourself.com/news/v3n2.txt When determining whether a root canal is necessary... Maybe dentists should start talking about jawbone cavitations? Susan Stockton, MA says: "Root canals will unquestionably cause cavitations sooner or later..." http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/JBcavitations.htm JAWBONE CAVITATIONS (different from cavities)... "Dead and dying teeth should not remain in the jaw, even if they are causing no acute distress to the patient. If CAVITAT (tm) scan of the jawbone shows pronounced necrosis under a 'vital' tooth, please entertain the possibility that the tooth only appears to be vital, and is, in fact, dying...For the chronic cavitation patient, extraction may be both the beginning and end of his or her health problems. The improperly done extraction (usually of a wisdom tooth) is frequently the beginning of a problem which may go undetected for decades, and then only be resolved by the proper extraction of some, or possibly all, of the remaining teeth, along with removal of necrotic bone from edentulous areas [areas where teeth have been extracted] and aggressive systemic detoxification. Prevention and early detection are the keys to avoiding this outcome. Improved imaging capabilities [with the CAVITAT (tm)] give us the tool for such early intervention.. The first step in solving the problem, however, is awareness of it. You have taken that step and are urged to take the next one. Doctors: Learn to recognize jawbone cavitations and to either treat them surgically, or refer your patient to a qualified cavitation surgeon for treatment. Patients: Seek out a dentist familiar with jawbone pathology: It may be the unsuspected cause of your systemic problems." --Susan Stockton, MA, author of Beyond Amalgam http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/JBcavitations.htm Susan's advice is obviously RADICAL - but it makes sense to me. One definition of the word radical is "arising from or going to a root or source." Again quoting Susan on root canals: "Root canals will unquestionably cause cavitations sooner or later..." http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/JBcavitations.htm To order Susan's book, go to: http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/books.html Megadose Vit C relieved cured relieved periodontal disease? Laura Lee Radio Show...transcript excerpt... Also cavitation is a new term you're going to learn tonight and that is the space left in the jawbone when a tooth is extracted. If an infected tooth or simply a wisdom tooth that needs to come out to make space, problems can arise with dead tissue in the jawbone and you're going to learn tonight what you can do about these conditions. We have with us Dr. George Meinig, the author of Root Canal Cover-Up. Martin: Hello, Laura Lee. Yeah this is kind of a personal topic for me, about 15 years ago I heard a report from the University of Texas Medical School at Waco. They had a 6ve-year study where they demonstrated that 1,000 milligrams of vitamin C per day would prevent periodontal disease...[A]fter that I was diagnosed by my dentist...with pretty serious periodontal disease...I immediately started taking 15,000 mg per day for the next four months. He x-rayed my teeth at the end of the third month and he said "You know something's happening here, the number of pockets you have and the size of those pockets is rapidly diminishing" 90 he wanted to re-X-ray just to verify this, so he did and it showed that some of the smaller pockets had completely gone away and the larger pockets were reduced by less than half their previous size only three months before...And he was amazed and he asked me what I had been doing, and I said I had simply been taking 15,000 mg of vitamin C every day - 5,000 with each meal. And other than that I hadn't changed my diet or done anything else. Does your guest have any experience using vitamin C for therapy? Laura Lee: Well, they are looking into nutrition and the impact it has on health overall. Dr. Meinig... Dr. Meinig: Well a third of my practice is actually periodontal disease. You said that I was a specialist in endodontics but I preferred to do all of dentistry and about a third of practice was periodontal disease. I never had any patient do 15,000 mg of vitamin C, I got many of them on vitamin C, but not that much, and your discovery is a very interesting one and I'm going to advise a few people to try that and let's see what happens with them. I can't say that I've had experience to that extent with anybody. http://www.mercola.com/2001/apr/25/cavitations.htm I copied the following from a NG discussion - possibly from this NG - about a year or two ago. Seems that 250 mg of vitamin C per day saturates the body and the rest is eliminated, according to this research. More research could be needed though. Enjoy! RF Recently Dr Weil reported some research which indicated that the human body can utilize no more than about 250 mg of vitamin C per day. Anyone know any more about this? This is true. Linus Pauling was wrong in naively believing that only when you got diarrhoea was the body getting enough vitamin C.. This is what Weil is referring to --- New insights into the physiology and pharmacology of vitamin C Sebastian J. Padayatty, Mark Levine CMAJ 2001;164(3):353-5 [PDF] (Note that the circulating white blood cells are saturated with ascorbic acid at an intake of just 100 mgm per day.) Quote-- When given orally, ascorbic acid is well absorbed at lower doses, but absorption decreases as the dose increases. Thus, median bioavailability following an oral dose is 87% for 30 mg, 80% for 100 mg, 72% for 200 mg and 63% for 500 mg. Less than 50% of a 1250-mg dose is absorbed, and most of the absorbed dose is excreted in the urine. Ascorbic acid is not protein bound, so it is filtered and reabsorbed by the kidneys in healthy subjects but is lost in patients who have been hemodialyzed. Ascorbic acid begins to appear in urine at doses above 100 mg/day, corresponding to a plasma concentration of about 60 µmol/L, at which point plasma is 70% saturated and circulating white blood cells are fully saturated. Decreased bioavailability and renal excretion keep plasma vitamin C at less than 100 µmol/L, even with an oral dose of 1000 mg. In men at steady state, a 30-mg daily intake results in a mean plasma concentration of 9 µmol/L, 60 mg results in 25 µmol/L, 100 mg in 56 µmol/L and 200 mg in 75 µmol/L. Thus, the dose-concentration relationship is sigmoidal, with the steep portion of the curve lying between 30 mg and 100 mg of oral vitamin C daily. Doses greater than 500 mg daily contribute little to plasma or tissue stores. Circulating white blood cells contain 10-30 times the plasma concentrations of vitamin C. End quote Peter Moran |
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Dentists and OBs...
It's dogma based on faulty reasoning - see (doses far above the quoted 250mg
do have effects - but why?) http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/bsardi.html Anth "Red Fox" wrote in message link.net... "Todd Gastaldo" wrote in message link.net... DENTISTS AND OBs... See the very end of this post. ASSUMING root canals cause cavitations and cavitations cause symptoms... COULD MEGADOSE VIT C HELP RELIEVE SYMPTOMS CAUSED BY ROOT CANALS/JAWBONE CAVITATIONS (different from cavities)? Dr. Andrew Saul says: "I know of no true option to a necessary root canal." http://www.doctoryourself.com/news/v3n2.txt When determining whether a root canal is necessary... Maybe dentists should start talking about jawbone cavitations? Susan Stockton, MA says: "Root canals will unquestionably cause cavitations sooner or later..." http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/JBcavitations.htm JAWBONE CAVITATIONS (different from cavities)... "Dead and dying teeth should not remain in the jaw, even if they are causing no acute distress to the patient. If CAVITAT (tm) scan of the jawbone shows pronounced necrosis under a 'vital' tooth, please entertain the possibility that the tooth only appears to be vital, and is, in fact, dying...For the chronic cavitation patient, extraction may be both the beginning and end of his or her health problems. The improperly done extraction (usually of a wisdom tooth) is frequently the beginning of a problem which may go undetected for decades, and then only be resolved by the proper extraction of some, or possibly all, of the remaining teeth, along with removal of necrotic bone from edentulous areas [areas where teeth have been extracted] and aggressive systemic detoxification. Prevention and early detection are the keys to avoiding this outcome. Improved imaging capabilities [with the CAVITAT (tm)] give us the tool for such early intervention.. The first step in solving the problem, however, is awareness of it. You have taken that step and are urged to take the next one. Doctors: Learn to recognize jawbone cavitations and to either treat them surgically, or refer your patient to a qualified cavitation surgeon for treatment. Patients: Seek out a dentist familiar with jawbone pathology: It may be the unsuspected cause of your systemic problems." --Susan Stockton, MA, author of Beyond Amalgam http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/JBcavitations.htm Susan's advice is obviously RADICAL - but it makes sense to me. One definition of the word radical is "arising from or going to a root or source." Again quoting Susan on root canals: "Root canals will unquestionably cause cavitations sooner or later..." http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/JBcavitations.htm To order Susan's book, go to: http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/books.html Megadose Vit C relieved cured relieved periodontal disease? Laura Lee Radio Show...transcript excerpt... Also cavitation is a new term you're going to learn tonight and that is the space left in the jawbone when a tooth is extracted. If an infected tooth or simply a wisdom tooth that needs to come out to make space, problems can arise with dead tissue in the jawbone and you're going to learn tonight what you can do about these conditions. We have with us Dr. George Meinig, the author of Root Canal Cover-Up. Martin: Hello, Laura Lee. Yeah this is kind of a personal topic for me, about 15 years ago I heard a report from the University of Texas Medical School at Waco. They had a 6ve-year study where they demonstrated that 1,000 milligrams of vitamin C per day would prevent periodontal disease...[A]fter that I was diagnosed by my dentist...with pretty serious periodontal disease...I immediately started taking 15,000 mg per day for the next four months. He x-rayed my teeth at the end of the third month and he said "You know something's happening here, the number of pockets you have and the size of those pockets is rapidly diminishing" 90 he wanted to re-X-ray just to verify this, so he did and it showed that some of the smaller pockets had completely gone away and the larger pockets were reduced by less than half their previous size only three months before...And he was amazed and he asked me what I had been doing, and I said I had simply been taking 15,000 mg of vitamin C every day - 5,000 with each meal. And other than that I hadn't changed my diet or done anything else. Does your guest have any experience using vitamin C for therapy? Laura Lee: Well, they are looking into nutrition and the impact it has on health overall. Dr. Meinig... Dr. Meinig: Well a third of my practice is actually periodontal disease. You said that I was a specialist in endodontics but I preferred to do all of dentistry and about a third of practice was periodontal disease. I never had any patient do 15,000 mg of vitamin C, I got many of them on vitamin C, but not that much, and your discovery is a very interesting one and I'm going to advise a few people to try that and let's see what happens with them. I can't say that I've had experience to that extent with anybody. http://www.mercola.com/2001/apr/25/cavitations.htm I copied the following from a NG discussion - possibly from this NG - about a year or two ago. Seems that 250 mg of vitamin C per day saturates the body and the rest is eliminated, according to this research. More research could be needed though. Enjoy! RF Recently Dr Weil reported some research which indicated that the human body can utilize no more than about 250 mg of vitamin C per day. Anyone know any more about this? This is true. Linus Pauling was wrong in naively believing that only when you got diarrhoea was the body getting enough vitamin C.. This is what Weil is referring to --- New insights into the physiology and pharmacology of vitamin C Sebastian J. Padayatty, Mark Levine CMAJ 2001;164(3):353-5 [PDF] (Note that the circulating white blood cells are saturated with ascorbic acid at an intake of just 100 mgm per day.) Quote-- When given orally, ascorbic acid is well absorbed at lower doses, but absorption decreases as the dose increases. Thus, median bioavailability following an oral dose is 87% for 30 mg, 80% for 100 mg, 72% for 200 mg and 63% for 500 mg. Less than 50% of a 1250-mg dose is absorbed, and most of the absorbed dose is excreted in the urine. Ascorbic acid is not protein bound, so it is filtered and reabsorbed by the kidneys in healthy subjects but is lost in patients who have been hemodialyzed. Ascorbic acid begins to appear in urine at doses above 100 mg/day, corresponding to a plasma concentration of about 60 µmol/L, at which point plasma is 70% saturated and circulating white blood cells are fully saturated. Decreased bioavailability and renal excretion keep plasma vitamin C at less than 100 µmol/L, even with an oral dose of 1000 mg. In men at steady state, a 30-mg daily intake results in a mean plasma concentration of 9 µmol/L, 60 mg results in 25 µmol/L, 100 mg in 56 µmol/L and 200 mg in 75 µmol/L. Thus, the dose-concentration relationship is sigmoidal, with the steep portion of the curve lying between 30 mg and 100 mg of oral vitamin C daily. Doses greater than 500 mg daily contribute little to plasma or tissue stores. Circulating white blood cells contain 10-30 times the plasma concentrations of vitamin C. End quote Peter Moran |
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Anti oxidants 'give electrons' and they reduce oxidative stress which is a
sign of disease. The more 'stress' you have the more vitamin c will be 'used up' and the less you will urinate out. Animals have been known to increase they vitamin c synthesis by 100 fold in times of stress. Anth "Red Fox" wrote in message link.net... |
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Thanks Anth for the inputs. Looks like much more research is needed in this
field. RF .. "Anth" wrote in message ... Anti oxidants 'give electrons' and they reduce oxidative stress which is a sign of disease. The more 'stress' you have the more vitamin c will be 'used up' and the less you will urinate out. Animals have been known to increase they vitamin c synthesis by 100 fold in times of stress. Anth "Red Fox" wrote in message link.net... |
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